“Tyla Is a Plant" | Joe Budden Slams Tyla Over VMAs Drama

[@dawb86]

It did NOT take y’all this long to figure that shit out 😂

[@BristolBerg]

Dementia

[@asiahogan7607]

they knew, it took them this long to be able to share it haha

[@sheasealy8539]

Hatin this young lady for no reason is super goofy…glad the rest of the pod stood against this bullshit

[@flawless__aj]

top 3 dumbest things joe has said

[@TheChrisLouis]

I know everyone disagreeing with Joe because he yells and gets angry, but what he is trying to say is that her etiquette comes off very rude. That's what he is trying to say.

[@danielbarry5547]

Even if that's true, her not twerking on Ush was not a good example😂

[@qthe6thman]

What etiquette? Did she step on peoples shoes and say nothing? Did she not say thank you when given the award? Oh wait, she respected her relationship and asked somebody to please hold her Award while she gave a speech, which taylor swift and Sabrina carpenter Did that same exact night. Yall just want Tyla to allow the industry to Cassie her.

[@dewannaglow8365]

Tyla waiting for someone to hold her award like they work for her was wild. Girl, fuck no! put it on the ground😂 Tyla not wanting to dance with Usher is not a big deal lol she danced aside him, but she didn’t have to dance on him.

[@Wisdom2knowthedifference]

I agree about the award. If you can't hold them, don't work for them. Not a fan of hers at ALL.

[@RemiLila]

I agree. Tyla could disappear tomorrow and my playlist would go on.

[@TraciWeber-bs3zm]

It's crazy how good this turned out!

[@calilugas_psychiatrist]

I genuinely can't believe Joe let Parks clip this. Tyla owed Usher exactly nothing. if Usher wants to stay relevant, he should make some hits and not grind on women for clout without their consent.

[@Deddrong1]

Big Facts!!!

[@donmacmilly]

Bruh Usher don't need HER. She a nobody to the US and a plant

[@Nayahpooh012]

Tyla doesn’t have to let a man grind on her if she doesn’t want to. It’s simple.

[@Kickinthescience]

She says her influences are Aaliyah and Rihanna

[@KryptonIstheFuture]

Joe is crazy for this take

[@mills1540]

When you get a Grammy nomination before an album

[@bo0gi3]

Tyla might be but the whole usher point is a terrible point to try and justify and stand on

[@Ekleaz]

No it's not. He's saying she needs to play her role. He didn't have to highlight her at all.

[@slicerh248]

This is the dumbest Joe has ever sounded on this podcast

[@dstorian4210]

Call it out. This was predatory like behaviour

[@advanced8998]

Ever? Lol a lot of South Africans in the comment section

[@rz2pp]

It’s funny how yall wanna make us believe Tyla is a plant, and just tryna dim her light. Yall pathetic

[@terrelljackson.]

She is… do you know how many times Tyla has seen BBHot100???

[@nicholasbenjamin3166]

This is a bad take

[@101mylo]

She does give off uppity African vibes to me

[@ianwest1624]

Well if the shoe fits 😂

[@shaun9183]

💯💯💯

[@101mylo]

@@ianwest1624 uh huh

[@jarricah7920]

Why are yall even comparing Tyla mid new ass to somebody like Mary J blidge

[@Ghostshark8137]

Rihanna can be considered afrobeats Tyla didn’t bring attention to nothing.

[@Krumpavelli]

Why they keep tryna step on Joe’s points? Let that man talk

[@iseerashonal821]

"Entitled" and "expects people to fall to her feet" she understands American culture perfectly. Wtf is that lady talking about?

[@STARK0181]

South Africans, especially middle class soutg Africans have a pretty entlilted mindset given the luxuries that we have. We have this reputation abroad

[@sjeille]

Usher has heavy Diddy ties and maybe just maybe it isn’t the look or affiliation she wants or needs. Joe is just hating

[@MillSteph]

I agree with Joe

[@Wisdom2knowthedifference]

💯

[@cyrilsmedia]

The issue is AMERICA did a lot to check her on a culture you guys don't understand. And her values continue to place their values on her own principles. It's just a lot of ignorance

[@Ekleaz]

Problem is she isn't trying to come in the game off her culture. They trying to bring her in off Black American culture. That's the issue

[@cyrilsmedia]

@@Ekleaz Honestly. It was left from the moment it was an issue that she's not black. That just didn't compute in America.

[@raynew2065]

They uploaded Joe’s worst take. This is how you know hes an abuser

[@robertmendozanasty]

So because of this opinion, he abuses women… wtf kind of take is that.. sounds like you abuse women

[@jordankevin7496]

That clip of her talking about Drake sliding in her DM’s was what did it for me…

[@shaun9183]

Yeah real cocky 💯 I saw that!

[@dariusbryant3540]

Im starting to feel bad for her with all the bad press shes been getting lol

[@dawb86]

That means they got you right where they want you 😂

[@Ichsukatanuka]

@@dariusbryant3540 kinda brings it on herself

[@Ywonova]

Joe got them fighting boots on… 😂😂😂

[@tumelopule7960]

Damn Joe, just because she is in front of 20,000 people, she should lose her ideals? Keep in mind that Usher is old enough to be her father, and you still find nothing strange about this? le tswile tseleng

[@KryptonIstheFuture]

Americans shouldnt speak on things they dont know

[@billy3603]

Then take yo ass back to a hut over there and don’t listen. We are the taste makers.

[@donmacmilly]

Then don't come to america to push your music

[@robertmendozanasty]

@@donmacmillycouldn’t agree more.. other countries expect American to know their customs

[@advanced8998]

So stay away from our culture. Make your own award show

[@STARK0181]

​@@donmacmilly I'm south African and I agree with you. I promise you that not all of us are this arrogant and entlilted.

[@MyronMagnus]

She came to America to accept her Award to say that😂... Just a spin off from Hip-Hop and RB..

[@jasminedtucker]

Her, Burna boy, all those whack UK rappers and singers all stole their acts/personas/style from BLACK AMERICANS. Facts.

[@Onechanzetolive]

So we doggin an African woman for not acting American? I wish my girl was Tyla no disrespect to bro but *U*K usher 😂😭 all women should have “don’t touch me” energy when they got a man simple and plane I’m with tyla

[@Junegotthejuiicemusic]

I’ve been noticed I don’t like her personality. Definetly seems entitled and uppity. Glad someone else recognized it

[@karegairegi9071]

Joe excitement for girl topics is becoming annoying... I want that same energy for the "Diddy" topics.

[@mjtasticjefferson8107]

🎯

[@roshawndashiell2324]

Im with Joe on this !! 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@WearetheFOBs]

So ur saying she should have let the old rnb dude dance on her while she has a man- or do u just agree with Joe saying Tyla saying success of water is proof african music can be mainstream. Cuz Joe was talking about Afro beat when she doesn’t make Afrobeat- Afrobeat is a Nigerian Genre. She’s Southafrican, she’s just making South African pop music.

[@KryptonIstheFuture]

Tyla is not a plant

[@ddubblegaming3263]

Cap

[@catherineherman7574]

I agree with Joe on the point that thst "Water" has put African on the mainstream platform. What did Burna Boy, David and countless others did.

[@cmunnerl]

Joe yelling screaming, overtalking, bouncing in his seat, basically throwing a tantrum..... and calling out everyone else about their passion is crazy work

[@GeniusmuziQ]

Lol WTF! Joe should leave this out!

[@ashley2sweets]

I must agree with Joe! 😂😂 No one complains about Tems 🤷‍♀️.. water is a R&B song that’s why it did so well here!

[@MG-wq6dv]

Joe coming off as a predator and creep with this take. Extremely disturbing

[@Stooshit]

Maybe we will see him on the diddy freak off tapes

[@advanced8998]

Her music ain't even great for y'all to be putting on your capes 😂

[@Gilmacauley]

He did allegedly beat his gal while she was pregnant

[@brownsuga7444]

​@advanced8998 ..Straight like that 😊

[@EdgarRodriguez-no2ib]

Not allegedly… he gladly admitted it on the breakfast club … how are we now just surprised that this dude is a pos lol

[@nerdlarge4691]

Joe must have had double shot of expresso before this. He was extra belligerent for no reason 😂

[@rubyburks7366]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@isaiahclayton8178]

Joe, I’m from a music family. You’re wrong. Tyla didn’t go to the usher show to perform. She had evey right not to dance with usher. He wasn’t offended either. She can have her moral code and want to stick with it. Because of my beliefs, there are things I won’t do or say even if there is a camera on.

[@mleekahh]

TYLA DIDNT ASK TO BE FAMOUS IN THE STATES. Her record Water got big in the states so shes just being herself. If shes not being "american" then so what??!! Accept her as she is bro

[@STARK0181]

She actually did ask to be famous in the states the minute she signed to " EPIC RECORDS" In case you dont know this is the same record label that housed some of the biggest musical acts from the US like Celine Dion, Drake, ACDC and MICHAEL F-ING JACKSON. Tyla knee what she signed up for and why she did. Stop acting like the US needs her wheb its clearly the opposite.

[@cmunnerl]

LOUD and WRONG

[@KryptonIstheFuture]

who the hell is Arman wiggins ?????'

[@latoyaboston3845]

Why does Mel say Fuck between every word….. its mad annoying

[@music0nth3run88]

They nvr mentioned Tems

[@BigChrisENT]

I don't think it's that serious but I do think there is some truth in this... I do agree she's a plant but plant is not as serious people make it out to be...

[@dawb86]

Everybody popping on mainstream radio now is a plant to a degree

[@Dwayne3007]

Joe is hating on a young woman. Hes lettin a young female get to him. Big 44. 😂

[@kevinsumner4831]

Now I know why I don't listen to this BS. Thank God we can only listen to you tube clips 😮

[@Deddrong1]

Joe is really mad because TYLA didn’t let Usher grind on her, and then to say that it’s expected if your an upcoming artist??..Wow Joe…Sounds real sexist, and then the fact she has a Man/Partner, and you want her to disrespect him that way!!!…Stop Joe you making yourself sound crazy and look like a Diddy!!!🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

[@0123NDV]

Joe sounds like he's been rejected that way 🤣🤣

[@ellieb1812]

I agree with Joe. That was an odd move to an audience that is not very well known with her work. Definitely gives plant

[@cigarjefe]

I don’t listen to new music, so I don’t care.

[@KryptonIstheFuture]

who cares about American culture

[@neergcorp6320]

You do that's why you are here

[@MyronMagnus]

Keep her butt in South Africa then...

[@ngbthelabel7186]

Obviously Tyla does. She keeps trying to pander to American culture. She was just at an American award show 😭 make it make sense

[@Ekleaz]

Take away American culture, Tyla gets no publicity

[@jarricah7920]

You are really slow

[@simple9647]

I appreciate this take truly. Yet still, I can only imagine how Tyla is coping with all this pressure. Succeeding within a culture not your own is SCAREY - especially when there are cultural rules you're not fully aware of. I'm praying that she can navigate this well without losing the support of her newly emerging audience.

[@nuperancher3115]

Thank you Joe you are spot on

[@qthe6thman]

I dont even think Joe believes this take. He's just looking for engagement. Joe has already said he doesnt care if people are plants. As long as they got slaps. Interesting though how yall want this African girl to bend the knee but Joe uncritically allows Maeta to blackfish all because he thinks shes bad. Her music is terrible and Tyla is actually talented.

[@propositionjoe1515]

She’s not a plant Joe. She was buzzing in AFrica for quite a while. If you checkout the Blood and Water Netflix series (2021) her music is in the soundtrack

[@mssummer07]

💯

[@jasminedtucker]

That's not what an industry plant is. She has been propped up by the industry on purpose and given what she hasn't earned yet. That's a plant. She's a plant

[@monteblanc1622]

Joe is my guy and always will be, but I highly disagree with this argument that he and plenty of folks are attempting to make. It's a very AMERICAN way of thinking. Whether in the States or overseas, we expect everyone else to assimilate to us. We make ZERO effort to learn about, understand or be considerate of other cultures. She's from another culture, so naturally, there will be things that she does and understands differently than folks born/raised in the U.S.,... so instead of coming down on her and saying foul/disrespectful things, why not educate her, ourselves and others? I'm disappointed in my brother in this moment because Joe is smart enough to think on this critically and arrive at that understanding. What "empath"? Smh.

[@Ghostshark8137]

Old ass Free from 106 and park was recognized from Usher too. He spots all celebrities in the crowd she wasn’t getting special treatment.

[@Ghostshark8137]

But yea I don’t like tyla never did or her water song.

[@Ywonova]

Joe so extra😂😂😂 love it

[@lithamdabuli3337]

Joe budden giving diddy vibes

[@YoungAlmighty]

the song is really AMAPIANO. which has been a new budding genre from south africa for years.

[@Ghostshark8137]

I never liked the water song sounds like the typical intentional get stuck in your brain kind of song. Like as if she really is a plant like you people say.

[@datsapaddlin]

Hey if Tyla got a man and she ain’t wanna disrespect him having Usher dance up on her then props to her for having some class unlike some of these USA women that will throw that out the window real quick 😂

[@mjtasticjefferson8107]

Joe too upset about this😂😂😂

[@blkkatemoss]

Rage bait. Joe should be better than this at the level he’s at as a media person..

[@floydjones2236]

They not like us

[@epicarno6943]

Breakfast club interview moment was odd but i think everything else is blown out of proportion. I bet if there were other African people or white people were up there she would probably ask the same thing.

[@OreAgiri]

How did y’all post this?

[@ladygoodmen7399]

Joe is on to something.

[@Valid.4l]

She danced on Chris brown just saying 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@AstroAzania]

Americans are great yes but they need to learn more about the world

[@jayc5756]

Great conversation. Idk...maybe 2 things can be true. Maybe she is a little out of tune with certain things...and maybe what dude said about her team trying to keep her very clean...cause that makesa lot of sense too....based on how they are moving lately. So who knows 🤷‍♂️

[@Ichsukatanuka]

I'm with Joe on this, Tyla made usher look like a floosy lol. And Waters just some generic afro-pop, Davido, burna have been dominating the last 4-5 years

[@Stooshit]

So she should do what kiki did

[@maynetayn]

Davido “FALL”

[@Alphadog73]

Joe is so right

[@Gilmacauley]

Joe giving Diddy vibes

[@celf994]

Good example of trying to be too smart that you sound stupid. Trying to be too far ahead that you get left behind….brewing in your own nonsense

[@houseofpinotagepinotage1475]

Talk about Diddy

[@mleekahh]

What is wrongggg with you ppl. Shes a kid. Let her just be. Yall hating on a young person on top of the world for what

[@chastitygray8174]

Water is good like I in the early thirties was dancing to it on TikTok last year. 💦 Her attitude & ways I'm not a fan of so fell back. Look her & Chris Brown,Rihanna & African artist Rema up. Messy is my point.

[@IceCubinJr]

😂😂As a South African,our women act behave different from American women! Not saying we don't have 'modern women'...But majority of our women and men are "conservative"

[@1Dager3]

Idgaf, tyla is hawt af!!! 😍😍😍🤤🤤🤤😍😍😍

[@LeeBaggy]

New L Joe Take

[@kebrongee9614]

Im with Joe im not gone lie. You can tell

[@sagesimply9742]

Of course she is

[@tumenace3279]

Nikhona la ?

[@Beeezus]

I agree with Joe B 💯

[@DadBot-_-]

Lol joe thinks because you disagree u don't know music lol 😂 why he does he do that so often ?

[@matthewharper4677]

More than likely he has insider information and doesn't want to give up his sources in order to keep this being entertaining. Plus I think he understands the outside looking in on how they move mountains for big artists.

[@keyandredavis2893]

Joe right

[@osangapepeta8821]

Her Energy Is Too Much For Some Americans

[@shaun9183]

Plzzzzzz she's not the first afro beat artist to top the charts !!! & way too cocky

[@AprilRedrum55]

Agree with Joe for once

[@seanbryant6945]

First comment??

[@seanbryant6945]

Yes!! I’m so cool 😎

[@houseofpinotagepinotage1475]

🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦 it’s who we are.

[@HughKefner300]

I’m on Joe side 3:12

[@eatchas]

Eh. If my girl curbed usher our of respect for us she’d be on my good side for a minute.

[@henryhudson4965]

Joe said it Best non music co hosts 🚮 8:47

[@blkkatemoss]

Entitled Uppity African is the lunch table in the Mean Girls movie I always wanted to be a part of. 1:20

[@shygirl95]

Aka "unfriendly black hotties" 😂💅🏾