Tyler, The Creator is Right..

[@thomassimmons9730]

Tyler isn't saying "value your era" -- he's saying "value what actually has value to you." He's encouraging people to like shit because it matters to them and not because some "music critic" says something is good or not. A lot of really great art gets overlooked because everyone's afraid of being into something that doesn't have some stupid seal of approval.

[@baraobam8416]

Lol first person in this comment section who gets Tyler's point. Language comprehension is not lost

[@thomassimmons9730]

@@baraobam8416 Thank you, Mr. President!

[@haadtheevision]

But with Tyler’s logic it’s basically dumb to have a debate or discussion on music because everyone has their opinons on what they think is good.

[@fubusupporter5933]

@@haadtheevisionit is lmao

[@keyhasyourip7681]

@@haadtheevision thats the point, music is supposed to be ab self expression and creativity, its not a sport with a clear cut winner/loser and stats.

[@17thpyoungin]

He’s exactly right. He’s always stayed true to himself and hip hop fans should too

[@kilo-cr4ig]

Yeah I feel like shawn is missing the point of what tyler was trying to say. His point as a whole is that hip hop attacks people for their true opinions on rap to the point where its just a default greatest of all-time list, or any rapper list in general that people have by default so your opinion cannot be criticized( weather you really believe it or not.). Rappers themselves when asked who are their favorite rappers get attacked just for not having the streamline list of rappers that they like. Like when making a list of like the top 50 rappers of all-time you rarely see a TRUE top 50 rappers, just the top 50 lyricist because thats the easist and gets little to no hate but they call it the greatest rappers of all time. These days i feel these list heavily favor lyrical rappers and old school rappers unfairly, Even though some mumble rappers/mood rappers/drill may have way more influence and pull on the rap game than some lyrical rappers but because they're not the default old school rapper they're constantly disrespected. I seen a list where bro was 19 and had 90's rappers over drake in a top 20 list and put bro 19 like that type of disrespectful.

[@dylanlavillain7173]

​@@kilo-cr4ig yeah Shawn just started projecting his own opinion

[@double0double0]

but is he though? he gets mad that kids love to appreciate the golden era or rap music but he made “call me if you get lost” for a similar reason. even though it’s a cop out to start naming a bunch of crictially acclaimed classics in your top 5, there is a reason they’re there but the most important reason is that those records are respected. some records don’t have to be your favorite but you see why that record is what it is for a lot of people.

[@playablecharacter3871]

He used to say he hated rap and he only listened to Waka Flocka to feel turnt but it was bad besides that, that's what I remember from him in like 2013

[@kilo-cr4ig]

@@double0double0 He's not mad that they have like those albums. He feels like they're lying about liking it to feel more accepted or liked. I promise you it's so many kids that did this in my high school and when I went to college. They'll say they liked those classic albums and rappers but cannot name more than 1 or two songs( if that) or they don't understand anything about the rapper or time period. Plenty of kids do this because they get lost in old head talk that refuse to come to terms with the time. You'll catch a kid walking around the school blasting yeat tell you their top 5 rappers are Tupac, Kendrick, Eminem, jay-z,etc knowing they haven't even listened to an album for any of them and as time goes on it's getting more and more common for people to not know these people.

[@KOKOW0RLD]

Tyler's take is the exact reason why I don't take Hip Hop Twitter or much internet discussion about music seriously. It honestly feels like a huge circlejerk of people leeching off of others opinions because they cave to peer shame and the cycle repeats for the simple fact that someone's personal favs are "too out there/weird" or their "music taste is trash"

[@0piumaeternum]

same with the moviebros with american psycho, fight club, any Tarantino film, hans zimmer being the best movie composer, interstellar being so cool, and they themselves have never watched a black&white movie

[@kbreezy1581]

​@@0piumaeternumit's ridiculous.

[@boyifyouboomeimaboobooonyall]

@@0piumaeternum hans zimmer is fire tho u cant lie

[@Gino565]

@@0piumaeternum so? People aren’t allowed to enjoy certain films or directors and appreciate them if they haven’t watched black and white movies? What are you trying to say here? The real circlejerk is the amount of people that like to generalise fans of certain things and put themselves on some bizarre pedestal because they think differently or think they have superior taste. Eg - you calling ‘moviebros’ out for liking films/directors/composers and dismissing their opinions because they haven’t watched old black and white films.

[@GDSprodify]

@@0piumaeternum Facts, and God forbid you say Zack Snyder has great cinematography they start crying blood.

[@loki350]

He's not saying necessarily value your era. He's saying be true to yourself. When some 17yr old says tupac is his favorite he doubts it cuz you werent around for it. It likely doesnt hit the same for you because you were born in a different culture, a different time, raised within a different soundscape. Though he acknowledges that some people might not be lying

[@double0double0]

but how can you expect a 17 year old to already have their own identity. 💀 teenagers are the most easily influenced people in the world and they hardly understand themselves. also, finding old music is still technically finding new music. it’s probably so hard to actually dive deep into your era because there is no place you can go to find a bunch of hot up & coming artist. just about every rapper with an established career from the 2010 - 2016 had a mixtape or multiple mixtapes on datpiff, had push from blogs, they had a crazy video on worldstar or KZbin blowing up or had music blowing up on SoundCloud. it’s not the same now. being 17 in 2013 was a goldmine, being 17 in 2023 isn’t. yes you have easy access to every album from every established artist but that doesn’t mean that there’s this surge or new artists making a way for themselves in the same way that those before them did.

[@Jeremy-hx7zj]

Teenagers have been falling in love with older music for decades. It's normal.

[@axserwz5022]

​​​@@Jeremy-hx7zj he acknowledged this though when he said "some of them might be right" he knows it's possible, the idea is some people's " favourite artist" is Tupac or Biggie cause that's what people want to hear, cause Rap Twitter invalidates opinions that don't fit the norm.

[@Jeremy-hx7zj]

@@axserwz5022 I thinks it's more than some, I think it's really common. My favorite band as a teenager was the Beatles, it's still the Beatles, and everyone under the sun likes the Beatles. It could be that I'm mindlessly adhering to common rock wisdom, or it could be because the Beatles actually are one of the best bands ever to do it and it's like, practically human nature to enjoy them. The legends are legends for a reason.

[@axserwz5022]

@@Jeremy-hx7zj No I definitely get that, when I say "some" I just mean "not all", I listen to MF DOOM, Donny Hathaway, Radiohead, and other older stuff that isn't my generation but I love them just as much, even more than some of the modern artists I listen to, vice versa

[@Hoshikage869]

It's not even about necessarily valuing your era, but it's about valuing your own subjective experience of music. Just be honest with what you actually like and stand by it instead of trying to to make sure your opinions fit some collective consensus.

[@afrosamourai400]

Subjective experience is the opposite of quality...top is about quality not preference.

[@CJ_YT.]

yea. ive had so many friends deny themselves of things they really like cause it doesnt support their 'character', its fked up.

[@baraobam8416]

@@afrosamourai400 But define quality? Its very hard to define. Because your idea of quality is different from mine, and so to that end we're back at square one where people are trying to say one piece of art is "objectively" better than another when in the end, art is meant to be enjoyed. The better piece of art to you is the one you enjoy more. If art doesn't fulfil its purpose (usually to be enjoyed) then what is the point?

[@Murmurrr]

Yes you’re right. But the relevancy of the eras are important because people have been dishonest about their “top 10” because they get chastised for not including the top guys from the 90s. I’m sure Spotify has the true data on who’s the favorite of each year, but people will always default to “Tupac, biggie, Jay etc”

[@123ghds]

​@@afrosamourai400 that's an interesting take. Like is quality not what you enjoy the most? I don't understand. Is quality not also subjective?

[@boze-montana22]

In addition to Tyler’s point, I believe the “top 5” argument makes it harder to enjoy the music because you spend so much time trying to correctly categorize something, thus forgetting why you liked it in the first place.

[@deloresjordan4913]

💯

[@devzeppalin]

Agreed, people don’t even have their favorites in their top 5, just who they think is “the best” or makes these “gatekeepers” comfortable.

[@man4437]

This is why, while I like discussing music, I try to stay away from ranking things. If I told you my Kanye album ranking I would get flayed alive in these comments, but if I say that I love TLOP and think Ye is an underrated album, people will quietly agree with me. People are so particular about what is an "acceptable" ranking of artists or albums that it's impossible to just give your opinion. I would basically have to lie so I wouldn't get judged on my own opinion

[@dizzy7306]

Its interesting to see it suggested that ranking music and freely enjoying music are mutually exclusive. Actually it's quite easy for me to seperate the two because ranking is something we do as a pastime amongst ourselves or sometimes on the internet, but only to pass the time until we can do the superior pastime: actually listening to music.

[@whowhatprada]

where can i listen to tyler's interview

[@HeftyDan]

Holy shit, thank you for saying this. This is exactly what happened to rock. People would only value the older generations of it so much, that modern rock fell out of the mainstream in the 2010s. This mentality is why we have Imagine Dragons as one of the top rock bands instead of the bands actually pushing the genre in new directions. Bands that get no attention unless you go out of your way to look for it.

[@TheChosennn]

For example, Cage The Elephant and The Neighbourhood r modern indie/rock bands and yet they’re goated imo

[@man4437]

I really don't think that's why. Rock music doesn't have that much new to say. It's not that people stick to the old stuff and forget to make new stuff, there's just not that much new stuff that people find interesting because the style has kinda run its course. And I'm not saying there's no new good rock music (one of my favorite bands is BCNR), but the best rock bands nowadays veer into other genres or break trends in rock music. They're the bands like BMTH who get shit on for "not being rock/metal enough". I don't love BMTH either, but they have fresher music than the whole popular rock and metal scene in the past 13 years put together. But the thing is, bands who actually push boundaries will never please people who just want to feel the same thing they did when they listened to AC/DC, Led Zeppelin, Nirvana, etc. because those bands have already made that music. People might think they want a band that sounds like a band they already like until they realize how boring that is.

[@serendipity5569]

​@@man4437 .

[@JoshuaHenelyThornhill]

@@man4437 you got all of it right fr man !!!

[@Jeremy-hx7zj]

​@@man4437 lmao rock music has not run its course. It still has plenty to say. OPs analysis was spot on.

[@Thehintercast]

Pookie dookie has been goin crazy lately tho

[@dwagserts4etfes]

fr i fuck with the seventh track on his 2nd album cuz of my brother

[@potofgoldd]

1 year later and his 2nd album still in my rotation I think pookie dookie made it to the goat conversating imo 💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Thehintercast]

@@potofgoldd Im still bumpin pookie dookie too bro ong that shit is soo fire STILL😩

[@t-hug2597]

Tyler is absolutely right that the majority of hip hop twitter is performative 💯

[@OfficiallyRonny]

Name 5 DDG songs Shawn rn

[@tinyrick4533]

Aint no way niggas still saying this shit

[@Trvkkd]

🦗🦗🦗🦗

[@meme2memes]

I still can’t 😂

[@jelani2k932]

😭😭😭

[@JenP.R]

Moon walking in callabases Moon walking in callabases (Remix Ft YG) Moon walking in callabases clean Moon walking in callabases (Remix ft Blueface) Man I can’t no more 😭

[@teddiiicarebear6418]

I agree. I like to personally listen to artists in my generation and younger because I’ve always wanted to find the potential in new sounds/waves. The older generation constantly tries to make Gen-Z and Millennials feel guilty for not dick riding their music in the 70’s, 80’s, 90’s, and early 2000’s. Everyone is entitled to their own music opinions but the more open minded you are, the more you learn to love varieties of genres.

[@jirehjirehjirehjireh]

I’m glad you bring up both parts of the conversation here. I think artist like MF DOOM create a weird grey area for hip hop discourse. Early on he was so underground that much of the hardcore fan base came into his classics like Mm FOOD and Madvilliany after they were already old (you can thank Adult Swim for that). Beyond that while DOOM grew in popularity he didn’t become a mainstream household name till after his death. I spent most of my youth consuming DOOM, and in many ways his music has affected me on a personal level. I’ve actually been accused of only liking DOOM because of his acclaim and it was kinda annoying to have to prove that I genuinely like an artist instead of that just being accepted at face value.

[@edwardhill7297]

He's very heavy handed with it but i agree for the most part. Personally me and my brother have now bonded over diving into loads of music from all time periods and showing each other cool shit. So while i may not have been around for the miseducation of lauryn hill, it really clicked with me and sharing that with my brother and seeing his thoughts cemented it in my memories. Tl;Dr finding good music with my brother has been a bonding thing and created really sentimental links to certain albums

[@TalentedKamarty]

I agree to a certain degree. Some people r old souls, or the music ur raised on becomes apart of u. Songs with production that feels like Just Blaze, Swizz, 9th Wonder, Premier, etc. gonna hit me different than the popular sound now. But focusing too much on the past, u miss the fire mfs out there that r NEW & supplying that fix if that sound is what u prefer.

[@coastercraziness]

He’s not saying respect your era, it’s love what you love and don’t pretend to love something you don’t love

[@afrosamourai400]

@@coastercraziness saying something you don't love is better than the things you listen the most at 17 is common sense..most of 17yo have shitty taste in music.

[@rinzelwashington3908]

I understand what he saying and I see both sides. I grew up playing video games so a lot of the hip hop I was put onto early was thru soundtracks. So a lot of that was Jay z, Nas, too short, mobb deep, Kanye, etc. however my era based on my age is anything 2010 and beyond. So I think there are ways to ORGANICALLY run into music that isn’t form your time, without trying to force yourself into specific conversations for validation. I actually listened to Things Fall apart by The Roots today. I didn’t like most of it, but that’s bc it’s 2023 and I’ve already heard more modern takes on the same subject matter. Not to say the rapping wasn’t great cuz it was, but I didn’t feel the need to praise it bc the instrumentals didn’t hit as hard and they shouldn’t. On the other hand, Stankonia ALWAYS hits. Bc it was so left that those sounds are still yet to be replicated. And that’s the beauty of subjectivity. Both are great albums from before I was born, but I only go back to one.

[@baraobam8416]

Its not really both sides. I don't know how much you've been involved in online hip hop discourse but usually when people are "debating" music or saying their favorites, they feel the need to put in some old albums or artists to make their list "objectively" correct. (basically acceptable to the people they are showing their list to) I know because there was a point when I used to do that too where I would put some older artists I hardly listened to or enjoyed like Tupac over a different artist I enjoyed more like IDK. People only do that sort of thing for validation and all Tyler is saying is don't let your music taste and opinions be determined by what other people tell you to like, just like what you like. He's not saying that you can't like music before your time just that if you do let it be because you enjoy it, not because some old head will laugh at you for not including it in your top ten list.

[@TheSLATEcleaner]

That's why The Pretty Toney Album is my favorite Ghostface project. I recognize it's not his best, but I grew up in the suburbs and the first time I heard 'Be This Way' with the Billy Stewart sample it both introduced me to Blues Soul and R&B and also made me understand what sampling and music production was once I'd listened to 'We'll Always Be Together' and compared the two tracks. For a lot of white kids who grew up through 9/11 in the Midwest like me, we ended up just hearing Eminem and the party stuff from the bling era on the radio, which wasn't the best gateway into hip hop. Ghostface really primed me to click with the broader hip hop landscape post-high school, and I love that album a lot for it.

[@boop3259]

Such an under appreciated project. Holla stays in rotation to this day

[@milesharrison2140]

We talk about music like it’s sports and that’s the problem. We treat certain albums like they are objectively better when they aren’t. It’s just what you value and what means something to you. It’s all subjective and all valid.

[@meeyo7762]

I agree with both of you and, in my opinion, one of the biggest problems why we are in this situation is because a scary amount of people don't know the difference between favorites and stuff people think is the best. It baffles me everytime when I see a personal list of someone and then the comments are full of "how can you have x over y" or "how can you not have x album in there" like ????

[@diaquitaquita8984]

JUST BECAUSE IT'S OLD DON'T MEAN THEY LISTEN TO AND HAVE MEMORIES WITH IT

[@ShinbrigTV]

I like "Enter the Wu-Tang" but I'm not gonna pretend I know their whole discography.

[@bluerobot3806]

Facts. Ngl, I don't listen to much of old school rap. Old school r&b.... Definitely. If I were to rank the rap from that generation (ig) that I listen to, there'd be no list. One's that I don't mind putting on is chalie boy since I actually grew up with him playing in the car ever since my mom dropped me off for school.

[@CJ_YT.]

yea pretty much

[@Foeisudhxj]

As long as you are making new memories with the music that’s all that matters. Then you can come back 20 years later and you actually will be the pretentious old person who only talks about how good music used to be and how you were there to “watch it fall apart” or whatever the pretentious people are complaining about currently.

[@Chris-rj4bt]

Most ppl in those Twitter communities really feel like bots with no personality

[@Northsyde21]

Everything Tyler said is facts, and ive had the same thoughts for years. I dont think what he said is actually about eras, its just the example that he gave. People will have artists in their top 5 like Kendrick but barely listen to his music. Their most played artists will be lil durk or lil baby but theyll turn around and say Kendrick and Cole are their favourite artists. Your favourite artist 99% of case should be WHAT YOU LISTEN TO THE MOST. Thats perfectly fine and acceptable. But people have this pressure to say the OBJECTIVE best rappers when thats just BULLSHIT. Art is subjective and you should have personal connection with your music. Your favourite album should be the BEST album in your eyes. Everything else is BS and pandering.

[@Evan_Schaefering]

I don't know if I agree with you. Your favorite artist can be your most listened to but I don't think they have to be. Some art inherently requires more time, effort, and/or focus to experience. For instance, Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers isn't built for casual listening in the same way that something like a Lil Baby album is. I can't listen to it frequently but I still think it's a far better piece of art than anything Lil Durk has released so far.

[@Prolificx]

Nah you're wrong, Eminem sucks, Kanye is the GOAT, experimental hiphop is the best hiphop, lyrical rappers all suck unless it's Kendrick or an underground rapper that is influenced by ghostface or MF Doom. Get with the program man.

[@Two-ToneMoonStone]

Yeah but if you listen to enough shit you'll realize that sometimes your favorite isn't better than other shit. Like I love Travis, I have probably listened to more Travis since college than almost any other rapper, but if I'm making an all time list there is no way I'm putting Travis over DMX. IDAHIH shits all over anything Travis has made, despite the fact that I've probably listened to Rodeo, Birds, and Astroworld more over the last few years.

[@Dnashtharapper]

Tyler is right, but to extent. Only certain artist still have that modern criteria with music. People are often biased cause of certain music helped or applied to them. but people don’t value they own opinions they go off another person’s opinion it should be you solely, people love to flex they taste these days which shouldnt be the case your taste is your taste

[@jdhoilettify]

Hip-hop is going to have a top 5, top 10 and beyond of talented artists. But everybody has their own favorite artist. Old school is the best I agree, but there are millions of talented artists that people could be talking about right now. Tyler is right in my opinion.

[@adrian_lmx1840]

I think he saying most ppl put older artist on there list bc they have too? Right or am I wrong?

[@dylanlavillain7173]

​@@adrian_lmx1840 yup Shawn just started projecting his own opinion

[@slattslattslatt]

"Old school" is not the best lol. Nowhere near

[@NeedleDeedle69]

Old school hip hop didn’t have anywhere near the level of creativity and originality that you can find in the scene now. Shit people say all beats sound the same these days but 90% of old school hip hop just recycled the same boring drum patterns.

[@adrian_lmx1840]

@@dylanlavillain7173 yea I mean makes sense I js wanted a better understanding of the situation

[@djskip150]

Truly great music is timeless.

[@thenewyorkhip-hopspot5485]

I also think that’s goat debates can make hip-hop more exciting when not dragged out. It creates story lines of how ppl will forge their legacy and what circles do their work need to be talked abt in.

[@aubreyyoung4610]

I feel exactly what he's talking about. I'm hip hop 'til I die, but two of the most complete and satisfying albums I have ever heard are Jamiroquai's "A Funk Odyssey" and Daft Punk's "Discovery". They're connected to some of the best times of my life; I was in college when those albums came out and my roommate introduced me to those groups, and I introduced him to hip hop. We expanded each other's music tastes because we listened to different shit. One of his favorite artists to this day is DMX and one of my favorite artists is Beck. I prolly never would have listened to those groups of not for him.

[@ginopravisani6755]

I rate you for the Jamiroquai and Daft Punk cosign.

[@greenluxi]

I think its because if you only talk to other HipHop people you'll get different answers. Outside of the HipHop sphere those Albums especially Daft Punk are normie answers, but they seem more outsider answers for people that only listen to HipHop. I'm not really that in the HipHop sphere so the people I discuss music with would not blink at those two albums you listed as your top. I think perhaps the prompts on HipHop Twitter need to change from "What's your top 5?" to "What are your personal favorites?"

[@obzzidian94]

It’s always a good thing to have an open mind, not only to music, but to any medium of art tbh. You can discover so many art pieces with different styles and purposes. Btw W comment for shouting out Jamiroquai and Daft Punk.

[@aubreyyoung4610]

@@greenluxi they're only "normie" because they are amazing albums. There's a bunch of terrible shit in the euro-funk genre as well. Maybe you should expand your hip hop knowledge, I'm sure there are mind-blowing albums you've never heard.

[@kianawillis1325]

@@greenluxi “normie answers” bro ur literally part of the problem

[@nordaj_]

When I first came into hip-hop i felt like i HAD to love albums like all eyez on me, illmatic and ready to die and while those are good albums i will never love them as much as i like flowerby, because the internet and all my heroes are cornballs because that is the stuff i enjoy.

[@dabs.47]

Booooo you’re not a true hip-hop head

[@adrian_lmx1840]

Twitter made it like that smh. Yeah there great albums no doubt but it’s not in any of my list.

[@zuro181]

You have some good choices there

[@PEGGY18MAFIA]

Shout out to peggy

[@ThomasCapozzi666]

Don’t let Twitter know you enjoy any non conscious rapper more than Kendrick, you’ll get crucified.

[@kaezuchi]

It's always more fun to see people's personal opinions than seeing what a dead set consensus. it's why when i post my personal 4 of whatever day, i try to have diversity. like kinda get a vibe and tell a story with new music people might not know.

[@bioniccorndog]

Well everything is handled this way now because every thought passes through the social media filter. Social media turns our opinions into a competition and our statements spark investigations. Best albums get talked about right next to Jordan/Lebron arguments. We endlessly try to speak objectively about subjective topics. Stop analyzing all the angles, don't worry about what people will think if you express yourself. Don't be afraid to be proven wrong and don't be offended on someone else's behalf. Feel empowered to walk away from a convo agreeing to disagree. This is how we can all remain unique and have conversations that spark ideas. But a lot of people are not 'idea' people. A lot of people are not inspired to go find what inspires them. Social media allows for the safe takes to shine and those who haven't developed their own opinion can cling to it without facing ridicule. I think Tyler and Shawn are saying the same thing. Shawn just either misinterpreted what Tyler said, or is trying to add a bit of inclusiveness to his argument. I don't think Tyler is being all that cynical here. He's saying people should just be themselves. "You got 17 year olds like, 'Yeah, dude, fuckin' Ready to Die and Enter the Wu Tang is my top 2 albums ever..' I'm like bro you just got hair on your dick. Stop - It's performative. [...] I don't care about people's 'objective' top nothing... Tell me what is YOUR favorite shit - because you learn so much from people, you get context..." "I don't like to engage in Hip Hop discourse anymore. Not because I don't believe what people are saying about what they like -- it's just because I don't find it fun because the same arguments end up getting used over and over again."

[@micah459]

I honestly agree with Tyler but for some reason people act like he can't criticize something because he participated in it when he was a kid, like he can't mature and see how dumb it was. I personally never was a fan of Biggie but hiphop Twitter makes it seem like you HAVE to have him in your top 5

[@lumardyy]

Tyler clarified a bit better what he meant on twitter which addresses the second half of this video kinda, he didn't really have long enough to full flesh out the point I think

[@manny8176]

I think there’s a difference between your favorite and the objectively the best album/artist. Me personally I don’t have people like Tupac or BIG that high because I simply just wasn’t alive to experience what they did and how they influenced people. It goes both ways like Kendrick Lamar and I like Kendrick because of the experiences I went through with his music. At the end of the day it’s all opinion based

[@TalentedKamarty]

Like if we're going off of a certain criteria & stats, there's clear rankings. The fun is in the debating cause someone might value 1 stat (sales) over the other (impact on culture) and its value in Hip Hop. But ur personal list is ur personal list. It's corny on both sides. When mfs try to fit in n say "___ is in my top 5" but just wants cool points from the traditional hip hop heads lol. N it's corny when mfs just say the most recent n popular mf to seem "in"

[@mpamfi]

objective does not mean anything

[@joebidenjr5902]

There's no objectivity in music. You like what you like. People who say this are inherently insecure about themselves.

[@zman8164]

Objectivity is not a thing in music, music just like anything creative is all subjective. The problem is that some people can’t understand that and if you have any take about a certain artist, genre, or whatever that’s different from others it’s a problem. Having musical discussions can be so mind numbing and toxic at times because people just can’t grasp what personal taste is.

[@zuro181]

Objectivity in music is the cringiest thing there is. Only ppl who say that are annoying elitists and/or insecure about their taste because they want to be accepted

[@ChrisBrooks34]

I feel like this is a sentiment shared among people who consume music and are also very online. It can be easy to be swept into the echo chamber about what you like and what's the best. But one of my favorite questions to ask people when I meet them is what kind of music you like? It's a really easy icebreaker cause people who like music love to talk about with others. And I'm always interested in new music I haven't heard.

[@Mr.8point5]

As much as I love Tyler’s artistry and he is one of my favorites… I disagree that most young people who for some reason appreciate old school hip hop are just “disingenuous”. I’m one of those 90s babies with older parents that listened to that music so I grew up with it and connect with Tupac,Pharcyde, The Roots,OutKast,etc because of my childhood.not because older people or blogs say you should just love this Nas album because it came out in 94 or 96.

[@odg1190]

Some times the older stuff kids find just sound so different than the current sound and it just captivates you. I grew up listening to the 2000's hip hop/rap soley off the radio because my parents refused to buy the cd's for me. So I got used to Lil Wayne, Akon, Soulja Boy etc. After a while I just stopped listening to Hip Hop all together and became more enamored in Classic Rock like my Father. But when I heard Low End Theory from ATCQ for the first time in high school it was so different and I ended up listening to the whole album in one sitting without saying anything. That album solely re-ignited my love for Hip Hop.

[@kevaughnramsay9846]

You're missing the point.

[@Teddy_yb]

My interest in rap has always been affected by this. I remember bringing up that Kendrick Lamar’s album DAMN. was my favorite album from him since it came at a time when I was struggling with certain things just graduating from high school. Then some dude on a Discord said that I can’t think an album is good because of shit I’ve been through.😂

[@bp2000k]

Tyler statement in one of the reason why I get annoyed to the Drake Haters. „hE cOrNy“, „He dOeSnT wRiTe sHit“, „pPl wHo hAving hIm aS tHe bEsT raPper aRe wEird“. (I‘m like so wtf do you want from me!? If you don’t like it, then fine but stop giving me pressure & bullshit ass discussion of which rapper should i like bcs you don’t like it. He’s from my era. It’s my personal playlists). But the thing is, many ppl don’t wanna practice „acceptance of ppl‘s tastes“. Tyler right with that one💯

[@danwillreview]

This just reminds me of that one line from the track 'DEATHCAMP' "'In Search Of...' did more for me than Illmatic, that's when I realised we ain't cut from the same fabric"

[@ScorpionHendrix]

I made my own shit you went out and bought yours man I got too much drive motha fucka I hate traffic

[@TheChosennn]

My goat is Cudi. Do I truly think he’s actually the greatest artist ever? No, but Cudi holds a special place in my heart bc he helped me during a dark time in my life and still helps me today which is why for me, he’s number 1

[@mrmoe110]

It’s annoying asf how much hip hop fans argue over who’s the best rappers. Two different people shouldn’t rank artists the same because it’s ART

[@lionheartz1337]

That point about WHY you like a certain album resonates with me. I got into hip-hop in the middle of highschool. I grew up listening to punk rock and grunge because it's what my dad.listened too and I got into hip-hop mainly through listening to endless lofi playlists during and to and from school and from there got exposed to a lot of rappers both mainstream and underground. Like I only learned about DOOM through hearing his verses ripped over lofi then I discovered his discography without being "put on" by other fans which led to, I think, a much more personal connection to his music. So when I say DOOM is in my top 5 I don't approach that objectively because the enjoyment I get from it is very much based off how I was exposed to it in the first place.

[@blazebananacrusher5241]

I agree with the sentiment of people pretending like they care about something they don’t because it’s held in high regard by the public. Like I’ll be honest I’m 20 years old I have never and prolly will never go out of my way to listen to anything from before the 90’s. With that being said tho people I would consider the greatest rappers are all from the late 90’s early 2000’s (Em, Pac, Ye, Wayne, etc.) and I heard them as a child but technically my era is like Migos, Kendrick, Cole, Future, Thug, etc. so I think it’s not fair to say that just cuz you like something out of your era of music that’s critically acclaimed means you’re just being a poser. It’s interesting conversation tho cuz I know the exact people Tyler is talking about but I’ve been labeled as the exact people Tyler is talking about for not liking new age rappers that much.

[@napswhereyouat]

Yeah a lot people just want to be different too and I hate to say it it's the ppl saying I was born in the wrong generation. so I am title to listen to this it a werid counter culture that been going on for years now

[@michaelmannucci8585]

It's also true that music can have better or worse eras. People may feel an older era is better than the one they're in, and that's fine. You shouldn't be forced to like or prefer bad music simply because the dudes making it are your age.

[@the_boss45]

Debating ratings and discussing art are two extremely different things and it’s super important for groups around music to focus on the latter more

[@alceedus]

I used to really care about what people think about music, movies, etc. As I’ve grown older, I have realized that I just don’t care about other people’s opinions anymore. The discourse on Twitter is just so tiring.

[@zakiwillis359]

I think this is a perfect understanding of what it means to value the generation in which you live musically. Contrarily, I do believe that later 1900’s music ranging from the 50’s and later (not exclusively) is much better. Not only in rap, but also jazz, pop, funk, etc. A lot of older generations went into making music with more intention as well as a greater musical understanding in terms of melodies, chord progression, time signatures, etc. This is mainly due to the exposure some communities were able to have that are no longer as tangible. But, I think dickriding older generations in order to substantiate your music taste to a significantly biased group leaves the discussion for music boring. I think we are stuck with old head mentality because they are not willing to hear what this generation has to offer and consider a lot of our shit garbage. Personally, I have also fallen into this category to a degree and have a distaste for a lot of the rap music that comes out now because of it’s ever continuous symmetry and I’m only 22. But I hope to broaden my horizons to really understand and grasps the sounds of todays music on a deeper and more comprehensive level.

[@carlosrct]

Totally agree. If you’re still out here holding a flame for Biggie or Tupac being the best around, knowing how much more hip hop music has been released/reimagine since their deaths, you don’t listen to hip hop. You listen to only Biggie and Tupac.

[@bighole9790]

What if it’s generally some of their favourite rappers?

[@PERRIERTASTESLIKEPISS]

@@bighole9790 listen to more music

[@carlosrct]

If that’s the case, cool. It’s not my go to thought, however generally speaking the conversations or discourse I’ve seen, heard or have been part of is that those two are and will always be the GOATs, in group that has a endless quantity of artists. How do we compare them? On what metric, what standards? It’s a complex topic to discuss respectfully. I want to know why you find them to be great.

[@AP90x]

I listen to music a lot and still hold 2pac as my number 1. Biggie i never really liked him, like hes good but he isnt top tier for me. But its the same as the jordan debate, i feel people say jordan the goat just because its been instilled in them to just say that to nit sound like a fool. I personally dont have Jordan as the goat or best player. But i have 2pac as the best because of his ability to make extremely dope music and make it quick and not be a bitch about putting work out like a kendrick, cole, playboy carti and so many others. These guys act like they are gods and don’t respect their fans (more so playboi carti). I have so pretty out there artist as my top 5 different from the generic 2pac, biggie, nas/ kendrick, cole, drake shit.

[@kwanli_beats]

@@PERRIERTASTESLIKEPISS Thats The Point Of A Personal Top 5. How You Gone Police Someone Elses Taste Lmfao

[@Cruzerguy]

This message is why I like listening to you talk about music. You’re pretty personable with how the music hits you. That makes me interested in the music you like. Love this conversation and hope it continues on other platforms. Love the music that hits you hardest.

[@EduardoGarcia-zn5lr]

Honestly, I think Tyler’s thinking is forward thinking which is why others genres per say don’t have a ranking tier, but the culture that hip hop has been based on is competition and beef, thus why we still have the ranking system in the genre, perhaps the future of hip hop might be like Tyler described were we leave that mentality behind

[@Sal-zs1ob]

This is refreshing to hear. I can publicly say I don’t hold TPAB in my top 3 fav Kendrick albums 🙏

[@TheChosennn]

And that’s fine 👍

[@4444-s3x]

I don't even like kendrick but this means I don't love hiphop or rap music according to hiphop heads🤦🏻‍♂️

[@leen908]

and thats fine , there is nothing fun about listening to institutional racism everyday , i love tpab but i dont even think all of it is that good but the writing i still some of the best

[@joesizzle10]

somebody finally said it. I love TPAB but i like to listen to music that makes me feel good and make me wanna dance and there really isnt much of that in TPAB but there is in other kendrick records

[@NeedleDeedle69]

I find Kendrick incredibly boring and he makes me feel almost nothing. He’s got immense talent for sure, but his music does nothing for me.

[@rdog657]

I agree fully w Tyler’s take bc I know how amazing 2Pac and Biggie are, but I will always have a personal love for Young Thug’s “JEFFERY” bc that came out when I was in high school. Objectively, that album doesn’t hold a flame to “Ready to Die” or “All Eyez on Me”, but it’s what I listened to during MY development years, so I love it

[@NewDave]

I love the personal top 5 conversation. People should embrace their individuality. We all have faves that other people might have never heard of. That's how culture spreads.

[@gemgirl2000]

I understand exactly what Tyler is saying. This conversation needs nuance tho. I am an 80s baby so of course Biggie, Pac, etc. were the giants of my era. With that said, I didn’t like Pac that much. This was and still is considered blasphemy. I don’t care. I have Outkast and A Tribe Called Quest as my faves in the game during that time. So it’s all relative to what lands on your ear and how it lands. As for this era: the old heads like myself have to understand that this era is not for most us to understand, and that’s ok. I hate mumble rap with a passion but I also understand somebody might’ve hated rappers I revere. Is Tyler being cynical? It leans that way. But he’s also a creative who could give a shit less about what the masses think. He creates (no pun intended) shit that he fucks with. Basically up until recently most of the “rap” community wasn’t paying him any mind. So he danced like nobody was watching. There’s a freedom in that. All that to say, eras change and people love what they love for whatever reason (genuine or not). The only way a genre continues is with progression of sound and ideas. I don’t know where hip hop is or where it goes from here….

[@Evan_Schaefering]

I agree with your comment but I would like to point out that Tyler didn't just recently start getting attention. His earliest works were incredibly popular back in the day and 3/6 of his albums have been critical darlings. He's certainly gain more respect in the past 5-6 years now that he has grown out of his angsty teen early stuff though.

[@gemgirl2000]

@@Evan_Schaefering I said “rap” community in quotes on purpose. I know he’s had a a great run of albums for sure. I have them on vinyl for a reason lol. But…I’m talkin about the DJ Khaleds and some “rap” dudes/old heads felt about his quirky style. They can’t deny him now. But there were definitely some folks that didn’t fully accept him.

[@afrosamourai400]

I feel like tyler is mistaking preference with quality..if i was asked who i liked at 17 nelly would have been there lmfao..but was he a top mc? No!! Top is about quality and not preference...

[@Itsjustc]

@@afrosamourai400how important does quality have to be before the high set fundamentals begin to jeopardize a musical genre? You should take pride in your craft and strive to improve purely for self satisfaction, but striving consistently to compete is discouraging and exhausting at a point

[@avgriffin]

This is so true. But Fantano and Cee types absolutely aid this type of thing. Music eltism. Cee fans know this is true, lov or hate him. He is very cynical a good deal of the time. Fantano too. Talk about the sphere being like this, its true, but we aint different. Rap twitter, rap youtube, toxic and cynical and elitist, snobbery. Lotsa kids tryna act like shawn or fantano and just end up being these elitists who no music is good enough for. If they say artist x cringe, theyll copy that opinion, even the ''im so tired of this shit' personality vibe. Seen so many folks tryna be fantano or cee, bro stop, be you. Stop tryna be too cool for everything, unless its perfect. Criticizing Tyler for extreme cynicism, I agree, fully, but Shawn aint one to talk. Lets be real.

[@sjtheartisan]

There is no one GOAT. I just wanna create and listen to dope music. See interviews, why artists create what they create..💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

[@rehabcam]

Ken Carson is the goat.

[@thenewyorkhip-hopspot5485]

I think the the desire for objective top 5’s and 10’s will always persists as long as there are artists who desire respect within the the larger hip-hop community for anything beyond their “influence”.

[@MenwithHill]

People debate it with movies and other genres too. People debate what's the best movie and you know Citizen Kane will come up in spite of the fact nobody ever watches it.

[@stevenseasonn]

so glad he brought this up because the problem with hiphop twitter is that it has no substance and people only see it at face-value

[@Benlovescheese]

i completely agree with you- music shouldn’t have a timeframe, just like what you like and don’t rank it because that’s bullshit and can encourage elitism, instead, why don’t we just explain why we like stuff? I listened to Chance The Rappers colouring book the other day and it’s genuinely one of my favourite releases of all time, it’s so experimental and so bright, it’s a fun listen, idgaf about what the critics say, that’s my shit and it’s really good. i love all the bright synths, the crazy beats, the mad horns that come out of nowhere sometimes, the more somber tracks too, the concepts it touches about faith, society, expectations. It’s all just a really neat album and I just think it’s amazing because of that.

[@KillaRock404]

As someone who's been a fan of hip-hop, for what I would call 4 generations, Tyler is right. There are great artist out there who will forever test the time but those intangibles that truly made them great get lost when when you don't experience their journey. I'm not saying you can't enjoy their music but no amount "research" will replace actually experiencing the music within that moment. I feel a lot of people get sucked up into mob mentality when it comes to their "preferences" and don't truly discover who their favorite artist are or are too scared to admit it

[@Shay416]

I feel you. Like the collective tells us Lauren Hill's album is a classic. I don't doubt it but I witnessed J Cole's come up so when ppl ask me for classic albums I'll always say Forest Hill Drive by J Cole. His art tracks through my life and formative years, it's supposed to hit different.

[@KillaRock404]

@@Shay416 Exactly that. This might be blasphemous to say but I put Kendrick over Tupac and Biggie now. I caught both of them while they were at their peak but I watched Kendrick from the beginning and witnessed every step he took to get to where he is today. Those two forever be legends but to me Kendrick, even Cole top them for me.

[@TheWarmUpNBA]

I think this applies heavy to Kendrick “fans”. Some people definitely love his music but most of it is performative

[@kalync.8232]

"There's too much going on right now to be infatuated with music from previous generations." I disagree. Life is too short to LIMIT the media you consume by era. I don't think the new generation of artists are more deserving of attention simply because they're new. Let's be real it's not consumer responsibility to make sure genres progress, we just want the best entertainment. So I agree that discourse about music would be better if people talked about WHY they like the things they're giving attention. I personally just listen to music my brain craves regardless of era or genre, but there is a pattern of me gravitating towards music from past generations. Certain trends in current music just don't peak the interest of my brain. It's as simple as that for most people. Not everyone who prefers older generations of hip hop, r&b, etc. are tryna virtue signal for attention, and that cynicism is unnecessary, i agree.

[@verycalmguy]

🎯

[@lostlover101]

Jamiroquai is dope af been rocking since virtual insanity

[@0piumaeternum]

5:48 - 6:03 theres SO many people who do this without even listen to the artists themselves and take the reviewers word for it instead of finding out for themselves and forming their own opinions

[@thewriter8762]

His point actually extends to sports too. Like everything has to be a list, everything has to correspond to what the consensus believes and “objectivity” doesn’t exist anymore in cases of Twitter. I used to listen to reviews and reactions of albums seeing if people agreed with my takes. I’m not a heavy hot takes guy, but I always looked for validation. Even though people wouldn’t experience it like I did. Mr Morale and Some Rap Songs are the most important albums to me. Only because it hit me in such a personal way that it brought me to tears.

[@BlueBear13]

Bro whenever I heard Tyler mention Jamiroquai in one of his nardwuar interviews I was surprised. I got into them back in 2020 or 21 because I was into JOJO BA. I’m surprised there hasn’t been any big mention of them lately. (Other than the memes, which were cool)

[@Kal-El207]

2020 and 2021 are extremely recent. You’re still fresh.

[@BlueBear13]

@@Kal-El207 you are correct

[@raspberryjamOZ]

Whether if his right or wrong, he's opened up a discussion that was much needed

[@rileyp1506]

People look at me weird when I'm 19 rn but I grew up on Capone N Noreaga specifically War Report. I also grew up on Dirty Heads and Bob Marley, I got my taste from my parents and grew upon it

[@brenetssss]

Tbh its cool to listen to old music too, just hate those ''back in my days'' or ''when music used to be good'' type comments, so biased

[@rileyp1506]

@Breno O. oh yeah, just today Spotify told me I've peaked across 300 some genres this year lol I'm realizing I have no life rn

[@Jeremy-hx7zj]

When i was a teenager, i connected to older music because the modern music that i would discover once i got internet access years later was just not available to me, and so classic rock radio was the only radio station i could stomach

[@lau_ewo]

he’s so right and he explained his point so well. i always thought this but never knew how to exactly articulate what i meant, but he explained perfectly

[@thevisionaryassassin4352]

Being open-minded about which albums, artists, and/or singles you find to be best is extremely important. You can like things based on your own personal values, period that's it. I personally feel like 2014 FHD and KOD are Cole's best albums, but 4YEO is my favorite J. Cole song EVER, and it's not even from my favorite Cole album!

[@coenpelsrijcken8530]

watching this video on mute is like watching a slideshow at Tylers funeral

[@Siapsidhen]

Tyler just wants people to be genuine. Its rare now

[@carthag3]

Tyler is absolutely right. Even when people casually a list of their favorites, they'll be bombarded for not having Kendrick or Kanye in the top three as though you can't have preferences outside of that. There are plenty of great artists and legends of the genre, but the same people aren't going to speak to everyone equally.

[@GiWok564]

Moral of it: just let people enjoy things…

[@GMONEY-vr7ti]

What Tyler said about Tupac was the same thing I'm saying to kids (freshman) when they talk about Kendrick, Cole, or Tyler himself y'all was playing with rattles while theese niggas was on the rise so I wouldn't blame you if you didn't pay it any mind

[@kei-kv9lx]

It’s different though because Tupac stopped putting out music before most of us were even born

[@kpkost]

I totally get where he’s coming from, and do agree that likely the large swath of people who share opinions do it to fit in. Buuuuuttt I listened to Illmatic for the first time a year or two ago and I listen to that shit all the time. That is a masterpiece that I didn’t even realize

[@stephonmiller6422]

All my kids like Bone, DMX, and Wu Tang because that’s all they heard growing up, so their musical taste is different.

[@unkellgrga9223]

What Tyler is touching on is something that is felt in social media discussions regarding any form of art really and not just Hip Hop As a huge filmnerd who is very active on Letterboxd it's always more fun following people that seem to have a very personal top 4 on their profile instead of just the canonised greats ( Godfather, Taxi Driver, Fight Club, Empire Strikes Back, Shawshank Redemption etc.) because they don't come of as rigid in their opinions nor trying to go for that pesky "objective" outlook that much of music and film discourse boils down to I like me some NWA and Wu Tang but I be lying to myself if I didn't admit that more modern names such as Kendrick, Ye or Denzel are more my personal favourites than many greats from the old guard

[@Overcrookz]

Aye gang. I rock with all yo content. Whether it be the streams on music or reactions or whatever. But this is where you shine. I’m not tryna tell you what kind of shit to put out or anything cause I rock with it all. I’m just saying this right here is your shining star and I love it

[@CHarr1991]

His video essays and breakdowns are very entertaining. Shane does a great job at expressing his points, and even if you don’t agree with his opinions..you can always see where he’s coming from because of his ability to elaborate.

[@lucas4177]

I agree with Tyler cause I still remember when I posted that Graduation was my favorite Kanye album and people jumped on me shouting that I was crazy and that either College Dropout or MBDTF was the best

[@MrNiceguy3210]

I know it's not the takeaway I should be having here but a Jamiroquai x Tyler The Creator album would be so good

[@ericlsena]

Would go insane!! Glad he shouted him out!

[@Dic_Justice69]

I’m down for that!

[@MrPukestick]

Have to say it but I completely agree with him on that. Neither of them were in my top 3 at their peak. My top artist was Treach from Naughty by Nature, I learned the craft from listening to him. Dres from Black Sheep, Kool G Rap, Nas, Buckshot Shorty, you get the drift. I did favour Biggie over 2Pac though.

[@fettywapsmissingeye]

Tyler’s fan base has for sure changed into something mad different, it’s mostly white girls or mad alt people, but I honestly don’t care. Hip hop fans respect him, at least those who respect his artistry, and Tyler’s holding it down in his own lane. Respect

[@imightnotmakeit]

Tyler’s fan base has always been white people and alternative black people. I would say only up until Igor and really the most recent album “hip hop culture” actually acknowledged him

[@RobGradyVO]

Completely Agree with Tyler. Music isnt supposed to be a Competition or a gatekeeping tier list.

[@matthewharrison1494]

This video reminds me why i love speedin bullet 2 Heaven

[@brenetssss]

i love indicud

[@codeghost7715]

I’m half n half with the topic. Art is subjective, and as a result should be debated. However, it’s important to hold what’s near and dear to your heart no matter what the general top fives or greatest of all times are. I know alot of people who will put Tupac and Biggie in their top five knowing they’re not even fans like that but they do it anyway so they don’t be considered “uncultured” and pushed out the general clique. The value of music nowadays has descended from actual art pieces to have a connection with and grow from to a competitor of other musics you put in the ring to see what is better than the other. That said, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with favoring what predates you. For the most part, the 80s and 90s were a more fun and experimental time for music. A lot of people, myself included, wish we grew up in that era.

[@mfdoom4311]

I mean i agree with what hes saying about people putting their top 5 as exactly what twitter would accept, but i also dont think its fair to say that its ridiculous for a 17 year old to listen to enter the wu tang or ready to die. People like what they like, and that doesnt necessarily mean they're 'copying' hip hop twitter. Sure there's plenty of people out there who only listen to what fantano approves, but there's also plenty of people who just love those albums because they're great.

[@user-hn8eo7sh4m]

Wait till he sees Rap Reddit

[@FlasKamel]

I agree with him - for something as personal as music there's like NO discussions about actual PERSONAL music-related things; memories etc. The only thing I didn't "like" about his take was that it had to put down one way of DISCUSSING music instead of just highlighting another.

[@Watdjndbdb]

Bro he’s talking to you 😂

[@Josiassv]

Right😭

[@stariiwes8358]

the fact he made a video talking about it when he's the type of person tyler is talking about is hilarious

[@johntimothy9757]

He’s half right. But at the same time, a lot of younger fans disrespect the absolute fuck out of anything that’s before their era. Did he touch on that subject?

[@ogloc9555]

fantano fans quivering in their boots rn

[@ace2311]

Tyler's right and the truth is that its never gonna change. People are just generally competitive so there will always be that urge of whos the best. I do think theres an objective and subjective method of ranking artists but since its art the objective really isnt as important. I dont think its wrong to say that people who like critically acclaimed artists/albums are trying to appeal to the masses as i feel anyone that enters hiphop usually feels this sense of they have to respect the ancestors of the culture yada yada. Entering new spaces can be daunting and you dont want to feel like youre intruding so people just tend to follow the wave to save face. Ive tried to listen to past highly rated albums like deltron, tpab, 36 chambers, the low end theory, things fall apart etc and while there are some tracks that really hit, there are some that i just scroll by.

[@DonovanGG__]

Facts. My favorite artists are Drake, Young Thug, and Travis Scott regardless of what other people think. I don’t feel insecure about it either. I know that I know a good bit about rap.

[@lordquastheonly]

You most definitely missed the point he’s not saying “value your era” he saying fuck with the music you like and stop tryna list shit because taste in music is personal and subjective because it’s art

[@maxwell9211]

I don’t think Tyler’s talking about “your era” at all. He’s just saying like what you like. If it’s older fine, if it came out yesterday, fine, as long as you like it. I think with the comment about the 14 y/o whose top 10 are all guys from the 80s is that it’s suspicious

[@860rondo]

Fr I could care less who’s better than who, I’m just here to vibe with the music. If I like it than I like it, if I don’t than it simply doesn’t appeal to me. Why is that so hard to understand for some; I hate how certain fans be like - “Your not a true fan if you don’t like this and go on a frenzy of how this song or album was severely good. Like bruh… people are allowed to have opinions.

[@TheLivingLambo]

He always is

[@Acedrew21]

It goes both ways with what he saying cause hip-hop and rap is like a library in my opinion I Say this because I was born after biggie & Tupac died but thankfully because their music was save and stored , I am able to hear their music, enjoy them and can relate to them The part he said hold dear to what you like is a good statement But to judge others like me who like biggie and Tupac over some new rappers because I wasn’t alive to hear them is hypocritical It’s like people who play old consoles over new one Like let people live out their past times Also: it’s okay to ask people opinions on hip-hop and rap It is not okay to make it seem like your own opinion is a fact I had to learn that the hard way growing up

[@sebastianherrera6514]

Ah fuck I need to have a personality now? Bruhhhh PD: I agree 100% btw, some people really should just stop caring what people on the internet say to them about topics, that in the grand scheme of things, don’t really matter. Be yourself.