TYMON'S GAN 12 Maglev vs MAX'S Tornado V3

[@UK_Cuber]

If you have tried the GAN 12 and the Tornado V3, which one is your favourite? (⇩Let me know⇩)

[@goku_kakarot902]

I have a Gan 12 maglev and my friend has a tornado v3 and I prefer Gan on this

[@yourface4896]

i had both cube and the reason i say HAD is because they both broke, the screw like plastic holding the tornado together snaped and sometimes the core stem will also snap. the gan 12 also broke in a way that is too difficult to explain lol

[@pandahhh9115]

I have both, I got cube heads deluxe v2 and I gave it to a friend, but have a pioneer also, I have a 12 setup myself, that I angstromed up, I like the 12 more and it has been my main for almost a year

[@Jesus.Number.1]

I have both the tornado feels like fast and snappy and the gan feels more blocky and like sandy(I prefer the feel of the fan)

[@alisyed294]

I have both, and while the GAN 12 is growing on me the more I use it, I still prefer the tornado. The tornado feels even more premium and the turns are buttery smooth once you’ve lubed it properly. The GAN 12 has much better auto-alignment so I’ll give it that. They both corner cut okay, but not as good as Moyu’s recent cubes. In general, you can’t go wrong with either. If I got used to them I could easily main either one, though for now I’ll be sticking with the super weilong 20 magnet or wrm v9 20 magnet edition.

[@xavcube]

1:42 that f2l alg is weird but good video still

[@Bonge_edits]

Fr

[@lllzooklll]

Theyre both excellent cubes. Agreed, it depends on what you want as to which will suit you better but with setup tailored to you, rather than someone else, either will get you fantastic times

[@UK_Cuber]

Yeah of course, if I set these up more to my liking, I would perform better on them.

[@FCCubing275]

Sheesh your almost at 3k subs! Keep up with the great work

[@UK_Cuber]

Thank you!

[@antikaaos]

A beginner question: On GAN 12 manual the top layer, with visible numbers, adjusts the center travel and the bottom one (the trifork one) adjusts the tension. You seem to explain and set these the other way around. Am I missing something?

[@ohhi666]

top numbers is screw depth (center travel) and bottom thing is the tension

[@speedcubingdotorg]

It is interesting that the Gan 12 continues to be used by so many cubers, I think Gan have just made mistakes with edge magnets and all the other extras, the simple ball core with just corner-core magnets works better.

[@UK_Cuber]

Yeah, it seems like they chose the wrong direction with the 'innovation' they took. I hope that they begin to understand what cubers actually want with their next cubes.

[@wangwang575]

I love both cubes

[@UK_Cuber]

Yeah, they're both really good!

[@wangwang575]

I know right both cubes are flagships and turn amazingly just depends on your turning style

[@RB-pp5tv]

Exactly right about Gan's obsession with weight reduction. Their cubes feel so hollow, dry, and cheap when they are turned. They can learn something from the design of the Guhong Pro M, which has such a nice feel. For performance, I believe that there is a relation between the mass of the turning finger, it's power, and the weight of the layer being turned, when considering the rotational speed and control achievable. IMO, the lightest weight is not the optimal one for best performance. The distribution of the weight in the pieces (esp the distance of the centre of mass of the pieces from the core) also has something to do with it. I think the next advance will come from balancing the mass of the pieces in a layer (like wheel alignment). Additional weight may have to be added at the points that the finger hit the layer to make it turn crisply with as little motion and force as possible. Just reducing weight is too simplistic an approach, IMO.

[@FreezJ]

I’m using a Gan 12 as my main but I’m thinking about using a tv3, the Gan 12 feels clunky and scratchy when turning, when I used a tv3 it felt way smoother

[@penguiniamc]

how long are bros fingers

[@HaniX99]

Ikr

[@ainsleycailipan928]

Amazing content as always keep it up!!!

[@UK_Cuber]

Thanks!

[@mr.bassel795]

at moment 1:42 in this video u solve the green-orange pair in such a bad way! u could just do a U' to put the pair in the back the do R U' R' U R U R' u also showed that wierd f2l clip on the time 3:34

[@Legendaryspeedcuber1]

My main is the wrm v9 standard

[@전윤정-y1r]

Uk cuber max doesnt actually use the pioneer, but uses the flagship without maglev

[@moshi29.]

my favorite is TV3 i have a pioneer version which is my main

[@UK_Cuber]

It is a great cube!

[@epicvideogamesplayer3473]

Mine broke stupid cube

[@JonathanAufderheide-ln8pr]

Same! The UV coating is the shiniest thing I’ve ever seen. ✨

[@JonathanAufderheide-ln8pr]

@@epicvideogamesplayer3473what part broke?

[@epicvideogamesplayer3473]

@@JonathanAufderheide-ln8pr center piece

[@diegeiYT]

What version of the tornado max use?

[@raunaksinha8485]

Pioneer

[@ijlibg7061]

​@@raunaksinha8485its flagship

[@ramesh1z]

you still need to adjust 24 magnets on the gan 12 because there are 3 magnets to adjust on each corner piece

[@hoangminhluu8851]

No it doesnt, the 3 levers on each corners all turn even if just 1 is adjusted

[@Harrysun7]

Another Beautiful video.😃

[@UK_Cuber]

Thank you!

[@rahhhhhhhh1]

your voice sounds like tom scott in a way

[@Seth6910]

My favourite is the gan 12. Controllable and fast

[@UK_Cuber]

Understandable, it is a great cube!

[@HoyaMethodUser69]

Max tv3 use spring not maglev

[@UK_Cuber]

Oh, thank you for that! I didn't realise!

[@alisyed294]

Yeah he has the flagship edition instead of pioneer, but they’re very similar (only differences being springs vs maglev). Lots of pro speedcubers say they even prefer the springs instead of maglev on this occasion, because for them the pioneer is a bit too fast and therefore less controllable. I have the UV coated pioneer though and in my opinion it’s perfect. But if anyone’s reading this, you can save yourself a bit of money and just get the flagship, following Max’s advice.

[@ChrisAm-rq8cn]

My Gan 12 popped so I use my tornado v3 now

[@FreezJ]

Then put it back together

[@ILIKEYOUGUYS96]

for me is the gan 12 becouse you get accesories that i needed and the settings is great and easy and takes faster time to adjust the magnets😊

[@tryhardfighter1833]

I must be in the minority of cubers then. I actually really like gan's feather weights. I have a bunch of other moyus, but even though my gan 11 has subpar performance compared to the rest, i still use it because its light

[@UK_Cuber]

Interesting. Personally I feel like the light weight contributes massively to a lack of control (especially when the cube is set up to be more corner-cutting orientated). Would love to here what you think!

[@tryhardfighter1833]

@@UK_Cuber I've actually owned the 12. I feel the lack of control stems more from other factors than weight. As for me, a heavy but fast cube has more monentum, leading to overshoots as the magnets can't stop the spinning. But for gancubes, its a combo of antistick pattern, smooth plastic, maglev, and non clicky magnets that make it overshoot a lot. And ofc, your vids are amazing bruv. Keep it up

[@Pixelz555]

I thought tymon uses gan 13

[@wasifkhan5910]

Nah u probably saw that in the video from the cubicle but that was ages ago

[@thecubeku]

i use the rornado v3 and my settings are same as max but lubes are difrent it realy nice

[@UK_Cuber]

Yeah, when you set it up, the Tornado is really good

[@mike-yd5fv]

What lubes do you use if you don't mind?

[@apal4933]

Bro is stealing from Cubehade

[@justmeplayyinroblox]

Bro can't type cubehead

[@ZenosCuber]

is it jst my TV3 or does anyone elses TV3 break so often. it is literally so fragile

[@ijlibg7061]

Its most of us , my tornado broke after barely using it for 4 weeks, the yellow center broke , im planning to buy gan 12 now instead of buying tornado v3 because its probably gonna break again , i won't buy moyu weilong because i dont have any lube.

[@SS-light]

i like the tornado v3 more

[@UK_Cuber]

Yeah, same!

[@SS-light]

my main is the same as max parks main

[@UK_Cuber]

That shows how good the cube is!

[@TomTom-rw9pe]

I bought the tornado because of the value

[@UK_Cuber]

Great choice, definitely a very good cube!

[@giovannib.ortizhuanca4105]

If I'm not mistaken Max Park currently uses a Moyu cube, but I don't remember exactly which one it is.

[@UK_Cuber]

Interesting, the last cube I could find that he was using was the Tornado but maybe I made a mistake!

[@BnazlepenK]

he used tv3 then switched to ys3m but then switched back to tv3

[@pixelpie986]

Ys3m 20 mag ballcore

[@solver5k]

Nice, clear video! I used the GAN 11 M Duo for a while but I still love and main the Tornado v3 Flagship. The only GANs I use in comps are the 251 M Pro 2x2 and the Enhanced Skewb.

[@UK_Cuber]

Thank you! The GAN 11 M Duo is still a great cube but the Tornado V3 is definitely incredible!

[@ijlibg7061]

​@@UK_Cuberthe problem with tornado v3 is that its so fragile , ive been barely using my tornado v3 for like 4 weeks and the yellow center broke , im planning to buy gan 12 now , all the money spent dissapeard in 4 weeks

[@plus2King]

tymon uses setting 3 for tension not 2

[@UK_Cuber]

The Cubicle uses setting 2 for Tymon's signature cube so I used that set up.

[@wallford49]

How do you know this?

[@UK_Cuber]

It says on the product description for Tymon's cube: www.thecubicle.com/products/tymon-s-gan12-m-maglev-3x3-uv-coated?_pos=1&_sid=562411419&_ss=r

[@skellq4385]

Tymon use gan 13 not 12

[@glidurr]

no he doesnt???

[@wanniesup]

Jesus loves usall

[@yourface4896]

lol this wa uploaded 2MINUITS ago lmfso

[@UK_Cuber]

Haha

[@mr.bassel795]

to be honest ur turning (fingertricks) and solutions in the clips of trying the cube are sooooooooooo bad if u fixed them u r going to be good😉

[@ashneergrover2225]

+1

[@VishnuAdhithya284]

You have a poor turning style so don't blame the cube for it