Type 052D Stealth Destroyer: Rise of Chinese Naval Power

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Eurasia Naval Insight

Eurasia Naval Insight

Ай бұрын

A key enabler behind the rise of China's PLA Navy is the Type 052D stealth destroyers, designed for anti-air warfare but also have good capabilities in anti-ship and anti-submarine warfare.
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Keywords: PLA, PLAN, Chinese Navy, modern warships, naval technology, Type 052C, Type 055, Luyang III class, Type 1130, HHQ-9, YJ-21, YJ-18

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@GeoPoliticsCommentry
@GeoPoliticsCommentry Ай бұрын
“The Bear does not concern itself with the opinion of the Sheep”. “The Dragon does not concern itself with the opinion of the Sheep”. Blinken is an Empty sheep, Yellen is an Old sheep , Ursula is a Sheep in Tatters.
@camt8804
@camt8804 Ай бұрын
You sound like the old Chinese Emperors 🤣🤣
@realtissaye
@realtissaye Ай бұрын
nah ​@@camt8804
@SromolKhmer
@SromolKhmer Ай бұрын
😂
@taiwanstillisntacountry
@taiwanstillisntacountry Ай бұрын
And you sound like a little-D-boi from scam-center Mumbai-Dharavi
@johnsmith1953x
@johnsmith1953x Ай бұрын
It goes "The Lions do not concern themselves with what the sheep think of them" and its from Game of Thrones from Tywin Lanister.
@Wvk5zc
@Wvk5zc Ай бұрын
Half an hour video? You spoil me❤
@redblueyankee8343
@redblueyankee8343 Ай бұрын
China's strength is the pride of our Sinosphere, no matter what anyone says I will always support my Sinosphere brothers
@camt8804
@camt8804 Ай бұрын
Where is the Sinosphere?
@redblueyankee8343
@redblueyankee8343 Ай бұрын
​@@camt8804China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Singapore
@camt8804
@camt8804 Ай бұрын
@@redblueyankee8343 Maybe just China and North Korea.
@redblueyankee8343
@redblueyankee8343 Ай бұрын
​@@camt8804You don't really understand what Sinosphere mean
@stephenwalling5878
@stephenwalling5878 Ай бұрын
​@@redblueyankee8343you don't know how speekie English, do you.
@winbear7423
@winbear7423 Ай бұрын
Has anyone noticed that an American Constellation-class frigate will cost as much as two Type 055s combined while having firepower inferior to the Type 054B? And an Arleigh Burke-class destroyer costs the same as 4 Type 052Ds while its firepower is far inferior to the Type 055 😂
@TelpPov
@TelpPov Ай бұрын
The Constipation class is a pipe dream, they selected a legacy ship with "mature" design but then proceed to completely redesign it now they can't even build the ship, let along trying to build multiple a year to catch up with 054A/B frigates. Every single class of ship and subs the US is trying to build are delayed or design is not ready.
@RichardsMiscCorner
@RichardsMiscCorner Ай бұрын
Constellation / Constipation class I doubt will roll in at 1 billion. they haven't even fully got through the design phase yet. SubBrief has a vid on it and he's basically spitting nails at the screen.
@verypleasantguy
@verypleasantguy Ай бұрын
@@RichardsMiscCorner Very soon now, USA will welcome their new *_trillion dollar ship_*_ !!_ At this rate of hyper-inflated price tag, how can USA not file for bankruptcy ?
@nicolamastascusa8173
@nicolamastascusa8173 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the info mate. I'm gonna check out that vid. I'm sure the PLAN will get their next carrier after Fujian in service before the Constellation class at this point.
@camt8804
@camt8804 Ай бұрын
You need to add in the cost of all the kickbacks to the generals .... then they cost more 🤣🤣
@baiyanxie2475
@baiyanxie2475 Ай бұрын
Correct a mistake: the naval gun of 052 is not based on ak130. It is more like a Western naval gun, which is said to combine the advantages of Italian Otto series naval guns and Russian naval guns, optimize the loading performance, and is an upgraded version of them. It should also be noted that the 9-meter vertical launching system can hold four small and medium-sized missiles per hole, or large missiles like the hhq9/yj21. So don't underestimate the number of missiles it can carry.
@danielmartin7838
@danielmartin7838 Ай бұрын
Only channel I know of that regularly offers images and insights on Chinese weaponry . This channel should expand to a complimentary land warfare component
@EurasiaNaval
@EurasiaNaval Ай бұрын
Thanks! I'll note your suggestion
@nejahdproductions3707
@nejahdproductions3707 Ай бұрын
​@@EurasiaNavalyou definitely should, we want to know about the chinese land force as well, such limited info in English.
@cabasadefogo9533
@cabasadefogo9533 Ай бұрын
What an amazing, detailed video on one of my favorite destroyers! Bravo! BTW, I would love to see a video on what you would consider as improvements you would like to see in the next variant.
@EurasiaNaval
@EurasiaNaval Ай бұрын
Great suggestion!
@tigersilberhannes9153
@tigersilberhannes9153 Ай бұрын
Uff, that was a lot of content, i needed to watch this one with a break in the middle.
@davidk6269
@davidk6269 Ай бұрын
Thank you for another very detailed and informative video! Well done!
@yojimbo3681
@yojimbo3681 Ай бұрын
Great analysis!
@phils4634
@phils4634 Ай бұрын
China can build these faster than the US, and repair them faster too. If the US's statement of "War with China in 2025" comes to fruition, this will be an important factor. Of course, China can (and does) produce the weapons these boats carry "in considerable volume" which will also be a deciding factor, should circumstances require it.
@Wvk5zc
@Wvk5zc Ай бұрын
They need to rigorously train a lot of ship crew. I think this is the biggest challenge now
@redblueyankee8343
@redblueyankee8343 Ай бұрын
The weapons output produced by the US is even lower than Russia, do you think they will surpass China?
@verypleasantguy
@verypleasantguy Ай бұрын
@@Wvk5zc The PLA Navy are recruiting new crews *_straight from their high schools_*_ !!!_ Even before they finish their high schools, those kids received training, and no, it's not like the ROTC part-time training of the USA, it's *_REAL TRAINING_* all the way !
@tvgerbil1984
@tvgerbil1984 Ай бұрын
In a real war, the ability to defend strategic shipyards and factories is the deciding factor, not how much these shipyards and factories can produce or repair in peace time.
@wuhui
@wuhui Ай бұрын
Wait a min, war in 2025? That’s like next year! When did US declare this
@daveh5947
@daveh5947 Ай бұрын
No wonder the Office Boy Blinken was scared when he visited!
@verypleasantguy
@verypleasantguy Ай бұрын
Looks like Indonesia may want to purchase 052D in the near future
@redblueyankee8343
@redblueyankee8343 Ай бұрын
The Muslims are oppressing our Sinosphere compatriots so they must be thoroughly examined before being sold. And overall their Navy program is a ridiculous joke, I don't think they will get the Type 052D
@nicolamastascusa8173
@nicolamastascusa8173 Ай бұрын
China doesn't sell the 052D. There's the 052E, which is the export version, but that's never been sold before. The smaller 054 frigate and 056 corvette have been sold to foreign navies though.
@camt8804
@camt8804 Ай бұрын
The new Indonesian frigate is being built with the UK.
@kunzhang7512
@kunzhang7512 Ай бұрын
@@camt8804 选择跟英国合作是个错误决定😅
@camt8804
@camt8804 Ай бұрын
@@kunzhang7512 Are the UK trying to steal Indonesian territory too?
@user-xw5fs3ye2w
@user-xw5fs3ye2w Ай бұрын
中国海军的雷达非常优异,领先阿利伯克3,反舰导弹领先世界所有海军,有这两样已经足够。
@aleksmiller1579
@aleksmiller1579 Ай бұрын
👉🤡
@Jaysqualityparts
@Jaysqualityparts Ай бұрын
Not a chance in hell Chinese technology is 30yrs behind American tech.
@user-xw5fs3ye2w
@user-xw5fs3ye2w Ай бұрын
​@@Jaysqualityparts 你的认知太旧了,需要立即更新。
@seabedsand
@seabedsand Ай бұрын
@@Jaysqualityparts Let the United States try to dig on the far side of the moon
@Jaysqualityparts
@Jaysqualityparts Ай бұрын
@@seabedsand if you believe that head to mars where we have a car seriously. We landed on the moon 50yrs ago with people.
@ltrond
@ltrond Ай бұрын
"1130" is not a "type", it's a nick name given by fans. Its official code name is H/PJ-11. 052D enquips very advanced radar system, even the latest Arleigh Burke Flight III can't catch up.
@DesignatedVictim
@DesignatedVictim Ай бұрын
The main radar themselves are pretty much equivalent. The difference is the integrated electronic system employed by recent Chinese vessels, which boosted radar performance by a large margin.
@bradgolding6847
@bradgolding6847 Ай бұрын
The big difference between western and Chinese/Russian warships is, Russian and Chinese shipyards build ships for purpose, whereas, in the west, shipyards build for profit. Tell USNI, the PLAN does not pose a "naval threat," it poses a naval capability. Only the western navies pose a threat. Another excellent video ENI, thank you.
@cravinghibiscus7901
@cravinghibiscus7901 Ай бұрын
We are the danger, yes.
@baiyanxie2475
@baiyanxie2475 Ай бұрын
Not exactly. The main reason is that China is the world's largest shipbuilding country. Their shipbuilding technology and equipment are top-notch. Western countries even import shipbuilding equipment from China.
@gelinrefira
@gelinrefira Ай бұрын
@@baiyanxie2475 And their shipyards are dual use. Their shipbuilders build warships and civilian ships at the same time so they can make profits building civilian ships and then concentrate on building warships for the country without the need to push for unsustainable amount of profits.
@user-br8ir4vr1u
@user-br8ir4vr1u Ай бұрын
Your stereotype made you make a mistake. In fact, the Chinese shipyards you see in this video are all dual-use, and the ships of container ships are not far from the dock of the warships, but they are not so corrupt and can make more accurate and reasonable offers
@baiyanxie2475
@baiyanxie2475 Ай бұрын
@@user-br8ir4vr1u The dock is only responsible for assembly. All weapons and equipment are provided by the military, and in contrast, Western countries need to spend several times the price to purchase the shelf products of outdated arms companies.
@phils4634
@phils4634 Ай бұрын
The 072C variants may well be upgradeable. This would offer a significant cost saving, and many of the systems used in the -D variant might be incorporated to a greater or lesser effect?
@DesignatedVictim
@DesignatedVictim Ай бұрын
052D may sounds like a direct upgrade from 052C, but it employed a completely new hull design similar to it's western counterparts, compared to Russian derived 052C. It would actually cost more money and time to upgrade the remaining 052Cs to 052D capabilities than to build brand new ships. Not to mention there were only 6 052Cs ever built.
@nostradamus2642
@nostradamus2642 Ай бұрын
The PLAN needs (significant numbers of unmanned long endurance AWACS) to integrate with 052C/052D in anti air and anti missile warfare in a TW scenario should 3rd parties intervene.
@user-ed9so2rb4k
@user-ed9so2rb4k Ай бұрын
Maybe the chief of PLAN should get free advice from all of you!
@DJs021
@DJs021 Ай бұрын
​@@user-ed9so2rb4k😂😂😂
@taiwanstillisntacountry
@taiwanstillisntacountry Ай бұрын
Why do Western countries and people talk about war between the Chinese Island of Taiwan and their Mother-land? Even the the Chinese people of the Chinese Island of Taiwan dont talk about war. We Chinese dont want war. You white people go fight in Ukraine if you want war.
@baiyanxie2475
@baiyanxie2475 Ай бұрын
This medium-sized destroyer is better than Arleigh Burke 3. The United States has only installed active phased array radar on the Arleigh Burke 3, but China has popularized active phased array radar several years ago, and even their close defense guns are equipped with active phased array radars. This technology is already very cheap for them, and the United States is still spending several times as much money to build Arleigh Burke class. If you want to say who is better between 055 and Arleigh Burke, I think it's like F22 and F16. The generation difference will make the other side powerless to fight back.
@ryankubinski8789
@ryankubinski8789 Ай бұрын
Ok buddy
@gelinrefira
@gelinrefira Ай бұрын
It's hilarious that they just plop an AESA radar on everything when other countries struggle to even build a proper one.
@baiyanxie2475
@baiyanxie2475 Ай бұрын
@@gelinrefira Even the seeker of some missiles.
@montys420-
@montys420- Ай бұрын
Lies!🤦‍♂️
@tvgerbil1984
@tvgerbil1984 Ай бұрын
The performance of an advanced warship is not just a sum of its parts. How well all these parts are integrated with the crews is just as important. This integration normally takes time to mature and very hard for an outsider to quantify.
@Cepheus77
@Cepheus77 Ай бұрын
Great video. One question, why is there always water pumped out above the waterline on Chinese ships?
@oppaceh7394
@oppaceh7394 Ай бұрын
coolant water
@ziaullahkhan8968
@ziaullahkhan8968 Ай бұрын
It must have at least 96 vls for upcoming model like alreburg class of America
@moss550
@moss550 Ай бұрын
The 130mm HPJ45 on 052D has a muzzle brake, the ones on 055 does not.
@hbc511
@hbc511 Ай бұрын
It needs an additional anti drone platform for protection
@user-ed9so2rb4k
@user-ed9so2rb4k Ай бұрын
Really, how long does it take China to build the various types of naval vessels? If it twice as fast as the next naval power, it looks like she can have a huge market if the twice is twice as competitive! Yes Auntie Yellen will complain of over-production and unfair competition!!
@taiwanstillisntacountry
@taiwanstillisntacountry Ай бұрын
Karen-Yellen ate too much🍄
@Jaysqualityparts
@Jaysqualityparts Ай бұрын
Nobody wants chinesium built ships. Tofu is the name of the game.
@maomaoya9527
@maomaoya9527 Ай бұрын
@@Jaysqualityparts SB
@Alio0208
@Alio0208 Ай бұрын
@@Jaysqualityparts SB
@user-ed9so2rb4k
@user-ed9so2rb4k Ай бұрын
@@Jaysqualityparts , Of course don't want them because you CAN"T afford them! It took India a decade to build a tiny destroyer.
@gelinrefira
@gelinrefira Ай бұрын
I think the most modern version of Type 1130 is now equipped with AESA radars. China's electonic industry and radar technology is so mature and advance that it is putting AESA on everything.
@baiyanxie2475
@baiyanxie2475 Ай бұрын
Exactly. People see that the Arleigh Burke class is also equipped with AESA radar, but they do not know that these same named AESA radar, the performance of the Chinese version is several times that of the United States, and the price is only a few tenths.
@gelinrefira
@gelinrefira Ай бұрын
@@baiyanxie2475 Maybe not 1/10 of the cost or several times the performance, but definitely fat cheaper and even better performance.
@baiyanxie2475
@baiyanxie2475 Ай бұрын
@@gelinrefira In fact, the cost is much less than one tenth. Most of the most advanced radar materials, gallium and germanium, are now produced in China, and these materials have been banned from being exported to the United States as a counterattack to the trade war. After that, it is difficult to find enough rare materials even if the cost has increased several times.
@jagodiving
@jagodiving Ай бұрын
didn't you forget arleigh burke class has anti land capability with tomahawk missile with range more than 1500 km
@ex0duzz
@ex0duzz Ай бұрын
How good are Chinese anti air missiles and associated systems in comparison with their Russians counterparts like S300-400-500 etc, or compared with usas various RIM missiles incorporated into their Aegis system? Or any other countries or systems which would also be in contention for being the best and most advanced anti air missile defense.. against whatever(like French, Italian, Israeli, whatever). Could also be defensive systems and missiles against jets, ships; drones(big or small), land vehicles, or any missiles or rockets they can shoot. Doesn't just have to be ship launched and only meant to take our missiles.
@taiwanstillisntacountry
@taiwanstillisntacountry Ай бұрын
Try it
@Jaysqualityparts
@Jaysqualityparts Ай бұрын
Not good that’s why nobody buys it.
@andrewdavidson2574
@andrewdavidson2574 Ай бұрын
Actually, no, countries like Serbia and Thailand have bought Chinese missiles before, the HQ-22, which is a cheaper replacement for the HQ-16FE, which itself is considered a cheaper replacement for the HQ-9BE derived from the missiles used on these ships
@gelinrefira
@gelinrefira Ай бұрын
@@Jaysqualityparts It's more like the west is better at marketing than the Chinese. The west's weapons are overly expensive because they are made by deliberately inefficient for-profit companies, and when met with actual peer adversaries gets degraded very quickly. This is evident now as more and more buyers of western weapons are getting worried but they have little choice because they are locked in. Give it a few more years, and things are gonna change. It will change even more quickly when a DF-21 slam into the deck of a USN carrier when the US finally do something monumentally stupid to force China to have to defend itself.
@ex0duzz
@ex0duzz Ай бұрын
@@Jaysqualityparts export models are not as good as domestic models that China uses. But even then, countries have bought systems which have Chinese anti air sub systems installed on them(like on Chinese ships). And iirc, Serbia has bought specific Chinese anti air systems. Not other systems like ships or tanks that have it as a subsystem but they bought it directly as anti air system.
@johnsmith1953x
@johnsmith1953x Ай бұрын
*I'm 100% positive many countries will want to purchase any export* version of this ship after the "performace" of Russian ships in the Black Sea. Nobody has confidence in Russian ships anymore
@barryneild379
@barryneild379 Ай бұрын
*CNN call it "the old ship in the Chinese Navy" (designed in 2014) while all the US ships are designed back in 1960s*
@chandrachurniyogi8394
@chandrachurniyogi8394 Ай бұрын
all ASW should be delegated to guided missile corvettes & few guided missile frigate classes . . . the idea is to maintain multiple SW denial perimeters around & within a carrier strike group or naval task force . . . based on possible strike/attack probabilities by enemy sub surface combatants . . . guided missile destroyers & most guided missile frigates will take care of full spectrum surface-to-air, ship-to-surface & anti-ship warfare . . . anti-submarine warfare to some extent (if & when necessary) . . . the Type 052D class in 2024 should cost anywhere around €563 Mn - €682 Mn (approx) a piece . . .
@ycplum7062
@ycplum7062 Ай бұрын
The long-range anti-ship missiles are an attempt to compensate for a less capable carrier air strike capability. For this to be effective, the PLAN will also need an equally long-range ISR capability, ideally ship launched.
@gelinrefira
@gelinrefira Ай бұрын
The PLA has plenty of land based air strike capability, so it has less need for carrier base strike craft. But that's changing as we speak. The PLA in the future will have a full spectrum dominance across the whole of the first island chain and will have near full control up to the second island chain. The PLAAF will support with bombers carrying gigantic AShM, along with the J-16s carrying their own missiles. The PLARF have access to some of the most lethal LR AShM of supersonic, hypersonic and ballistic. So the PLAN is only one part of an entire system. And they are all support by the PLASSF and their vast intelligence networks. No ship or sub within the first island chain can operate within getting sunk within hours or even mins if they dare to do anything foolish and no ship is really safe outside the 1st island chain. People in the west really have no clue what China is, and that's mainly because they are more interested in tooting their own horns and bury their heads in the sand.
@DelAoc
@DelAoc Ай бұрын
@@gelinrefira LR AShM supersonic, hypersonic or ballistic cannot hit a submarine which submerges below the sea surface. Submarines like Ohio class SSGN and Virginia class can carry Tomahawk Block VA anti ship cruise missiles with range 500 to 700km. They can stay well outside the 1st island chain, launch their Tomahawks while submerge below the surface and dive away afterwards.
@gelinrefira
@gelinrefira Ай бұрын
@@DelAoc it's like you guys forget that the PLA has a huge anti-submarine capability. The moment an Ohio fires off its tomahawk is the moment it is dead, assuming it can make it past Chinese under sea surveillance in the first place.
@tvgerbil1984
@tvgerbil1984 Ай бұрын
@@gelinrefira The original definition of the first island chain composed of the Kuril Islands, the Japanese archipelago, Okinawa, Taiwan, the northern Philippines and Borneo. So if your claim is true, all Japanese waters will be under the full control of China. It is possible but Japan and its ally the US will surely have a say in that.
@gelinrefira
@gelinrefira Ай бұрын
@@tvgerbil1984 LOL... The PLA pretty much CAN control the waters if it wants. But it doesn' have to because the PLA mission is to protect China, not interfere in other countries' internal affairs. However, because the US explicitly has said China is its and sought the destruction of its government and to plunge China back into poverty, it is using all its proxies,like Japan, SK and the philippiness to do so, it has no choice but to create the force necessary to take out all three of them when push comes to shove. They don't want to, and they will rather just trade and preserve their territorial integrity. It is the US that is trying to stir up trouble in the region and China is not going to back down from these bullying. Why should they back down? They have every legitimate right to resume their great power status in Asia and only fools will still try to deny them that. They have explicitly and with actions prove they are not interested in imperialism. The only countries that have problems with China are the ones controlled by the US. The rest of us have either live in peace, or benefited, or have negotiated settlements with China and moved on. That tell us everything we need to know who is really the bad guy here.
@Wvk5zc
@Wvk5zc Ай бұрын
I wonder how is the defense system around china's shipyards since it is apparent that they are if not the most crucial assets china have
@andrewdavidson2574
@andrewdavidson2574 Ай бұрын
Probably very good, the Chinese air defence network is world class
@user-bo6ec3cn8h
@user-bo6ec3cn8h Ай бұрын
如果中国本土被攻击,那可能就是第三次世界大战了
@mohamedayman5666
@mohamedayman5666 Ай бұрын
Be honest with me Which one is more fun seeing western bots barking in the comments Or seeing Indians in the comments think they have a chance against china
@seawater1322
@seawater1322 Ай бұрын
indians are annoying, swarming every comment section like ants. western butt hurt bots are so cringe.
@Vokuud
@Vokuud Ай бұрын
Can you talk about the naval construction in russia ?
@user-bo6ec3cn8h
@user-bo6ec3cn8h Ай бұрын
那建议您去看历史书
@Vokuud
@Vokuud Ай бұрын
@@user-bo6ec3cn8h i dont speak chinese -_-
@user-vf2bo3vy7j
@user-vf2bo3vy7j Ай бұрын
原来要30亿一条这么贵。。。运行维护又不知道要多少钱,海军真是烧钱大户
@BobGam-vo8ot
@BobGam-vo8ot Ай бұрын
那也看钱烧在哪了,烧在自己的造船厂那是内循环,烧在别人家那就是大撒币了,这也是为什么美国热衷于战争,他们不怕烧钱,因为越烧越多
@user-gu6ig1qp6p
@user-gu6ig1qp6p Ай бұрын
055要11亿美元,就一个破022都1亿rmb
@Vostadues
@Vostadues Ай бұрын
Err... O52D is just a low visibility vessel, not a stealth one tho...
@syncmaster915n
@syncmaster915n Ай бұрын
Notice: there will be a quiz at the end of video😂
@wawaweewa9159
@wawaweewa9159 Ай бұрын
Smaller ships are the way to go, big ships are too easy to hit and takes away massive power when hit
@johnwang2882
@johnwang2882 Ай бұрын
small ships have range issue and cant accommodate big equipment
@ziaullahkhan8968
@ziaullahkhan8968 Ай бұрын
In cost of 2 Alrighburk III the china can build another fujian type Aircraft carrier
@wrungshpelling5434
@wrungshpelling5434 11 сағат бұрын
👍👍👍
@johnzach2057
@johnzach2057 Ай бұрын
Please please do a video on why the Russian black sea fleet got f*cked up by $10K crappy drones. And how Chine will try to defend against aerial and naval drones.
@ChrisRussell-kh3uq
@ChrisRussell-kh3uq Ай бұрын
96% success rate against Mach 4 targets? Good luck with that
@user-ku6bv4ni2f
@user-ku6bv4ni2f Ай бұрын
30mm apfsds firing at 10000 rpm, combined with advanced sensors, I don't see why that's not possible. Also, that's more of a theoretical figure, if missiles perform maneuvers then obviously it's more difficult. US has been facing the threats of mach 3 targets since the cold war era, and missiles based solely on mach speed alone isn't so difficult to deal with
@fav9619
@fav9619 Ай бұрын
笑死了,up主老哥终于不演了。 “之前还给你们留点面子,你们不要自我感觉过于良好。”
@Kriegsmarine1939
@Kriegsmarine1939 Ай бұрын
别这样,就应该大力支持"Chinese J20 is not good as u think"这种视频在油管越来越多,大力支持推广类似china observer的频道,树立好pla纸老虎不堪一击的正确形象👍
@connermini9390
@connermini9390 Ай бұрын
@@Kriegsmarine1939那就是一个印度傻逼频道而已,也就骗骗三哥那些智商,有点独立思考能力的人都不会信😂
@jerry4251
@jerry4251 Ай бұрын
The mockva should had that system they could've detected those Neptune missiles
@vevenaneathna
@vevenaneathna Ай бұрын
china has a lot of catching up to do but is growing fast. imo china has a right to increase its navy strength to parity with usa in the area but no right to use it to isolate Taiwan.
@zhichaoyan5547
@zhichaoyan5547 Ай бұрын
sorry, Taiwan is part of China. No power, no barking.
@yang5159
@yang5159 Ай бұрын
052D 055 MORE advanced tha ARleigh burke
@randys2358
@randys2358 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 Fancy surface targets!
@mrmuffintime9496
@mrmuffintime9496 Ай бұрын
First
@thomas_jay
@thomas_jay Ай бұрын
The price comparision for the ships is irrelevant. It only matter if you plan sell the ships to international buyers.
@davidz7858
@davidz7858 Ай бұрын
Definitely it matters, it will determine how many new ships you can build with limited military budget
@thomas_jay
@thomas_jay Ай бұрын
@@davidz7858 The price of a ship has to be seen to the average national income unless you want to sell that type of ship to international buyers. At that point the absolute price matters because you compete with other nations. Btw, every military budget is limited.
@gelinrefira
@gelinrefira Ай бұрын
@@thomas_jay Of course it matters. It still has an impact on the over support your national industry can output to build these ships. Every warship built is an opportunity cost for other productive ships, so the cost of a ship even in domestic terms absolutely has an impact. You are just harping on 1 point in order to dismiss the fact that China's shipbuilding and subsystem industries are far far more efficient than the west, and it is not even the low labor costs. They are simply more cost competitive because they are better optimize and efficient. Their industries are simply BETTER than the west and you are just trying to cope by insisting on one point (selling to international buyers).
@thomas_jay
@thomas_jay Ай бұрын
@@gelinrefira Erm, 'no' on the ship building capacity. It is widely known that China has an enormous production output. That is not disputed. However, if you look at the purchasing power comparison 1 dollar can buy you more in China than in the USA. That automatically leads to higher prices in the USA. And that only matters if you try to sell an american ship or a chinese ship to the same buyer. That buyer will almost certainly choose the less expensive one (the chinese) over the more expensive (the american). If the ship isn't sold and stays in country, that doesn't matter anymore.
@scottgraney5275
@scottgraney5275 Ай бұрын
Paper tiger
@seawater1322
@seawater1322 Ай бұрын
you wish pigskin
@connermini9390
@connermini9390 Ай бұрын
🤡
@Shipspotting_Vietnam
@Shipspotting_Vietnam Ай бұрын
Never seen those war ships in a real war yet!!!😂😂😂
@TeeTee-zm2re
@TeeTee-zm2re Ай бұрын
What's so funny?
@taiwanstillisntacountry
@taiwanstillisntacountry Ай бұрын
So which Western countries warship fought any real war? In Afghanistan?
@grimgrimey
@grimgrimey Ай бұрын
Neither has the divided states😂nor their vassals NATO...wait and see how they sail away pronto in a real fight. Oh they lose every war game in the south china sea for good reason dipshit.
@The_Woodss
@The_Woodss Ай бұрын
Jit yapping like western ships have seen a real war 😂😂😂
@hagankeys3610
@hagankeys3610 Ай бұрын
@@taiwanstillisntacountry They are fighting the mighty Houthi in the Red Sea right now and not winning.🤣
@montys420-
@montys420- Ай бұрын
The amount of Chinese disinformation bots in the comments is amazing!😂
@seawater1322
@seawater1322 Ай бұрын
what disinformation western bot?
@montys420-
@montys420- Ай бұрын
@@seawater1322 the 1s talking about costs between this type 55 and Aeliegh Burk flt 111, plus the 1s about China's world leading skill over the US in AESA radar technology let alone the rest! 💯🤣🤣🤣!
@hengzhou4566
@hengzhou4566 Ай бұрын
不打战,就是一坨废铁。
@treedillon
@treedillon Ай бұрын
在说你美·爹马
@johnwang2882
@johnwang2882 Ай бұрын
不需要打,但必须得有,必须能打
@connermini9390
@connermini9390 Ай бұрын
没这些“废铁”可能就是天天打仗了🤡你美爹那么多废铁这么不见你骂😂
@user-re2jg5uu5u
@user-re2jg5uu5u 25 күн бұрын
没有海军就该有人来打你了
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