Type 10 Defender FAOFF in a HazRes with Cargo

[@VindicatorJones]

Before anyone comments. Yes I know, the type 10 defender was designed to kill thargoids, and not designed for res hunting. This video is more about having a bit of fun and getting a relative good idea on its capabilities. I will do a more specific thargoid hunter version later.

[@davidkennedy6208]

Vindicator Jones i used all multis and 2 frag turrets on small and its ok (ish) Dont think shes up to energy weapons!!! Happy new year Commander!!!

[@zontarr22-zon]

no probs, mine is for conflict zones :)

[@corinthiansdaniels3728]

Vindicator Jones I have to recommended rapid charge power distributor tier 2 or 3 I also use 4 large pulse lasers tier 3 efficient weapons

[@corinthiansdaniels3728]

Also 7c biweave with reinforced tier 4 with 4 1a shield boosters with tier 3 resistance augmented

[@zontarr22-zon]

David Kennedy, I use mine now, after many tests with 3 turrets med/long range(thermal shock) at 7+km range, 2 small long range rail guns( slug's), 2 large burst's/efficient wep(phasing sequence) and 2 large/efficient wep(corrosive) . my turrets can fire continuous with all pips to weps and no consume on thermal or distributor, so I can fire the 2 large bursts in the same time, that are devastating even for large ships( in high conflict zones), sometime I use the multi to give some extra corrosive damage and when in site the 2 rails. Whan nice thing I notice is that because of the beam turrets all at one on a target giso mo much thermal shock that the targeted ship can not fire upon me only when deplois heat sink. I am most impressed with the rolls I had for shield 8cb bi-waves that increased the optimal shield strength also at 98% and integrity and other nice secondaries ,with the 4 shield boosts can recharge itself really fast, my armor I have it at 5300 integrity with reactive armour, Is almost fully engineered the ship and for conflict zones ( where are the toughest pve ships) is really good, no scb because if shield down armour can take it and shield come back up really fast, I am proud of it atm :), maybe to proud but I was lucky with power dist. charge increased rolls and shields and armored power plant with secondary in increase power capacity from 36 to 38 MW :).

[@Claude-Eckel]

0:53 But it has (now) a class 7 power distributor. So, you might want to try it out and do an updated video..?I'd be interested what you think.

[@XHobbiesPrime]

I use mine in the haz res all the time. Never a problem. I use 4 large gimballed multis and the rest turreted pulse. And the turrets make a huge difference. The small and medium turrets do a ton of work and then I finish the target with the large multis. And I use a weapons charged distributor. For me it is an amazing res hunter. I almost never even take hull damage, like 99% of the time my bi weaves are enough.

[@XHobbiesPrime]

Honestly a T10 in a haz res is free money.

[@cnoyes72]

Yeah, it looks like he has this type-10 outfitted like and is trying to fly it like a fighter, when in reality it needs to be used as a weapons platform (lots of turrets).

[@GRDwashere]

Jonesy, mate, now at the end of 2019 the T10 fully engineered is a different beast yet still much maligned and underrated..... worth revisiting IMO.

[@VindicatorJones]

Quite possibly in the new year when I get back into making vids.

[@KaybeCA]

I totally agree this ship needs to have a class 7 PD. While it may be designed to be an anti-thargoid ship, many of us really love the Type 9, and see the Type 10 as a logical replacement. We don't all want to hunt thargoids. Some of us would really like to make peace with them in fact. At least until we can find a weakness they can't quickly adapt over like they do currently. As for setup ... I am equipping this to do the same as my Type 9, which is to say make it a dedicated mining ship (the canopy is perfect for this role). What I did is equip one medium and two smalls with mining lasers, and everything else with efficient pulse turrets. Seems to work well for self defense purposes, but obviously not for bounty hunting. As for engineers ... problem is that new modules that are engineered once the update goes through have to go through all grades 1 through 5, even if you already have the rank and materials to get that grade 5 right away. Suggestion: Get a grade 5 now, even if it's a crappy roll. If you wish to switch to the new system afterwards, you'll start from grade 4 instead of grade 1.

[@VindicatorJones]

Thats a damned good point about getting upgraded modules now... I never really thought about it that way.. Brilliant.. Cheers!

[@notdeath1877]

I know this comment is a little late but I really like xeno hunting and you made a good point about that currently I run a krate Mk II and a challenger when I want to but yeah I totally agree we should make peace until we find a sub stainable weakness

[@kalzonenu]

The TYPE10 HAS A 7A POWER DISTRUBUTOR!

[@thorveim1174]

yup.. it has it now ^^ makes it useable with a lot of autocannons and a few mroe energy-hungry weapons even before engineering

[@SixDasher]

It's the space version of the Winnebago. I hope they make a Winnebago paintjob for this thing.

[@VindicatorJones]

If they ever made a skin from the Eagle 5, the winnebago from Space Balls, then I would get that for sure.

[@Wowaniac]

Thanks for this video VJ, I just sold my T10 tired of spending hours trying to engineer it to get it to work

[@DanTKD87]

Sarah doesn't give 2 Fuchs about Havana

[@delta4phoenix4]

Big Money Gaming Fuchs actually is german for fox, though the joke still stands.

[@LokiCDK]

About the chaff comment: I think its just that the NPCs don't care if the burn the whole load in one fight. Next time you go out in the 10, make sure to bring a human crew member to add an extra pip.

[@hughjardon3538]

The Cobras and FDL often run out of range in the RESs. In a slow ship, like an Anaconda or T10, rather than chase after them, wait until they come back. Waiting means that you don't need any pips to engines, so you can have 4 to shields. They do that jousting from out of range for a bit, but the longer the battle lasts, the closer they stay, so i just keep in reverse to point at them and blast them until they're gone. It's a bit boring. I've even done a post on the forum on my tablet while I've been waiting for a Cobra to come back from 5km away. Sometimes, I just let them go, and I tackle another ship while I'm waiting. By the time I've blown it up the other ship, the Cobra/FDL is back and, having done they're run aways, they tend to stay closer where you can shoot them.

[@iscariotpaladin5363]

Was wondering if you did an updated video with your thoughts and engineering for type 10 including Rez hunting and anti xeno

[@Jognt]

Havana Justice - Never forget. o7 Edit: I still don't get how our friends can dial up into our ship but the NPC for some reason has to be there..

[@Jognt]

A tip for boosting during at intermediate range (1-2km) combat: If you boost while holding up/down thrusters the game will attribute less pure "forward" speed to your ship since half of it is in a vertical direction. This means you maintain a lot more of that 50% forward speed turning ability. Flight Assist is also way more capable to zero out vertical movement than you can be yourself, so if you boost up/down towards your target (you can pitch up/down a bit to compensate the vertical drift) you can easily turn once you get close to keep weapons on target, and Flight Assist will zero out the vertical movement a lot quicker than you're used to. *TL;DR:* Combining Boost with vertical/lateral thrust with Flight Assist engaged can allow you to dance around your enemies in a way that's not possible with FA Off. Hope this makes sense.

[@88HELLJUMPER88]

Hey Vindicator Jones! Unrelated topic just commenting on a newer video for a better chance at your attention, but I seem to be having a problem with combat and using my thrusters. I've watched all your combat videos, and despite mentioning that it's possible to lose all your forward momentum while using thrusters, I haven't heard much of how to combat this issue, which I seem to be having troubles with. And maybe this is due to some control configuration on my Xbox 1 controller, but I really wanted to have a full understanding on how to control my ship in a masterful sense before committing to a HOTAS controller set up. If you plan on making anymore thruster control videos this would be a most appreciated subject for you to gloss over if possible! Thanks, and have a wonderful day in the big black CMDR!

[@vujcichh]

Why are you waiting to engineer for after the changes?

[@vujcichh]

Use it for thargoid hunting, it becomes one of the best ships

[@KamiRecca]

Missiles and Multicannons, my friend. Missiles and Multicannons

[@MrShibaMX]

I like this ship

[@SangTheCryptek]

If I could be assed to grind for this, I'd definitely use it as a replacement for my Type-9. Miner/Trader/Multi-crew shenanigans. If they ever fix multi-crew mining (the turreted lasers are buggy and dont work well), I would multi-crew this for mining in an actual RES to make it more exciting.

[@grumpybadger1177]

honestly, I just see it exactly like a bigger keelback... absolutely pointless on paper, a hoot when you just have fun

[@Khorne_of_the_Hill]

I do like my keelback; it handles like a brick, but launching a fighter is so satisfying lol

[@urbansparxTheonly1]

Perhaps try multi crew for additional pips and maybe get your fighter to attack your targets rather than just defend. (Just an idea). Great vid as usual. RIP Havanah J

[@craigyoung2261]

It's pretty much a requirement to use turrets. The hell are you turning around for?

[@Xeridanus]

So my small turrets can hit them too!

[@sausageslaps]

so what can be done to make it not turn like the cinder block it is?

[@ShaighJosephson]

Looks cool as hell...but it's lack of agility is excruciatingly bad...

[@fauxx20a24]

The setup I had on my type 10 was a HazRes monster. Don't understand why people think it can't solo hunt.

[@kevkuro]

I wonder... What would happen if we increase hull reinforcement and shield, put all pulse turrets (rapid fire) and some LTD to bait pirates. AFK build maybe ?

[@thread-6479]

Is this Fdev's attempt to encourage more multiplayer to get more more pips?

[@kranik11]

Em...with the fact, that about 60% (my guesing) is still crashing in multi crew? Naaah...

[@thread-6479]

I don't imagine they built the Defender with crashes in mind. Guessing the Defender may be a little more formidable when multicrew is working.

[@52blue72]

Is crashing in multi crew still a problem or is it just that nobody has tried it in so long because the is no incentive to do it?

[@kranik11]

It is still crashing. The net code of Elite is... "bad".

[@52blue72]

I honestly didn't know one way or the other. I've used multicrew maybe twice and it worked fine those two times but I was curious to see if anyone had tried it recently enough and had a crash to warrant that comment. Also want to talk about bad net code I play games like escape from tarkov.

[@cmdrwaylander1213]

Another great informative video thanks man. One question how do you show the thruster direction? Is it a feature in ED?

[@tomekl3476]

CMDR Waylander121 mod i think

[@suavevalen]

I am using mine exclusively for mining right now.

[@aerohead02]

The Type 10 is an absolute pig on roller skates no matter what you do. You can slide it around but you always need pips in engines for boosting. I pimped mine out with all G5 upgrades, 8A shields reinforced @2400+. Had to compromise on the weapons, because of heat and the distributor drain, since the 6A charged enhanced distributor is inadequate. All G5 weapons, 3ea size2 rapid fire gimbals, 2ea size 1 burst turreted, 4ea size 3 multis rapid fire gimbals. So you can fire for a somewhat good duration. One of the worst things is the gun locations. It seem unless the target is directly in front of you not all the guns fire will fire at once because of gun line of sight. Have to admit it's fun though, Eagles just go "pop", but it's real difficult to stay behind anything including Annies and Fed Corvettes, even boosting with G5 dirty thrusters. Jump range of 27 which I can live with, but my combat loaded Anaconda gets 32. I'm an elite FDL driver by trade so it's excruciating and frustrating driving the T10. It was a fun build but I think I'll put it in storage and go back to my Conda.

[@burtlangoustine1]

I have a suspicion that this beast needs no shields. It's a Ironclad. A fortress.

[@ugli968]

I always find a class 7 PSG and a class 8b shield cell to be really good with the t-10

[@Khorne_of_the_Hill]

I know I'm probably misguided in lusting for a Type-10 since I'm a newbie, but launching fighters out of a gunboat sounds amazing lol

[@synthyawylder3297]

What I've done with my T-10 is to put 2 small gimballed multi-cannon 'ticklers' on it to poke the pirates if needed, 2 medium mining lasers, & all the rest, pulse laser turrets. Class 8 Bi-Weave shields, 4 point defense turrets around the cargo hatch, the other 4 utility slots I used shield boosters - I've never lost any cargo nor have my shields ever gone down & even if they did, with the T-10's ridiculous amount of armor, & the 2 module reinforcements, it can take quite a licking & keep on ticking. I also equipped the Reactive Armor, & a class 6 fighter bay with Condor Rogue F with multi-cannons, so that my pulse lasers set to FAW, they strip away the shields & the SLF finishes them off with the kinetic damage from the MC. Normal cruise, my heat is 27% & power usage is far below the maximum & during battle I've never had an overheating problem, so I can afford to put pips elsewhere. In the HazRes, I set the fighter to Defend cuz the pirates always come sniffing - & I pop out the collector limpets to pick up the wreckage. The gift that keeps on giving! That way, I gather materials, sell the mining goods, turn in the bounties, & rank up my trading & combat & my SLF pilot's combat rating all at the same time. What's not to like? Works like a charm! \o/

[@Khorne_of_the_Hill]

@@synthyawylder3297 that sounds dope! Thanks

[@shalev3368]

Your crew has the same voide as mine

[@redzool]

do you think it would be able to run all lasers if they were engineered to efficient weapons?

[@VindicatorJones]

It could, but you would still have some problems I think.

[@powerline4564]

Efficient pulse with charge enhanced distributor definitely

[@americareloaded4967]

I thought the t10 was just brought out last month? How the f is this vid 3 years old?

[@jamesngotts]

Hmmmm, seems like a ship that’s better suited for having 20k armor EHP

[@shuttlefish59]

You are good, how do you build up your skill level in combat?

[@ekoehlermarger]

Honestly there's only the hard way. Start out in some cheap but a good practice ship (I would recommend the cobra mk3.) Find a haz rez or combat zone and just practice. Take out ships your size and smaller and no harder than maybe expert (depending on confidence level) over time you'll notice how to react, best ways to read the sensors (I still get confused sometimes haha) then you'll find the fun in experimenting with different builds (:

[@iansharmacook]

Maybe try long range modded weapons, as most of the time your targets were over 2-3km away? Would be good to see how it fairs against its designated target Thargoids....

[@JYF346]

You madman

[@kevinedward6132]

It's getting a size 7 distributor next update :)

[@VindicatorJones]

Yes indeedy, I might revisit it once they have done it.

[@kevinedward6132]

Nice! on top of the new distributor charge rate mod (50% more!) I think it will be a fantastic ship, certainly going to help feed those hungry 8C Bi Weaves if you have them :o

[@GK-wn6ur]

The only reason to get this ship is as a cargo runner. It is only so so against Thargoids but, it has the largest cargo capacity, without rank grind, in the game. The only thing this ship really does is make the Type-9 completely pointless.

[@mobiuscoreindustries]

G K like the T9 was useful to begin with. Considering that in this game a generalist ship does cargo better than a cargo ship, the t9 had never a chance when faced to something like an Annaconda and now the T10

[@GK-wn6ur]

Actually, I've found the T-9 useful in a few situations where I wanted to trade large volumes, short distance (BGS work), before I had a Cutter. Having said that, I agree with you in general. Also, my point isn't that the Type-9 was a useful ship but, rather the Type-10 is largely pointless. I've been surprised at the hype around the Type-10. I actually had people in my player group saying they were selling their Annaconda, which I found absurd.

[@ChoiceVoiceYT]

No, the conda’s stock shields isn’t 1600mj, its 300mj-ish. Mine is 1600mj engineered with 7c bi-weaves and 7 boosters. Otherwise great video,

[@VindicatorJones]

1547 with a 7A Shield Generator and 8 Shield Boosters. That is what I consider stock

[@ChoiceVoiceYT]

Vindicator Jones I see

[@boiledelephant]

It's not just you. NPCs do have ridiculous amounts of chaff.

[@6Vlad6Tepes6]

There is nothing wrong using a ship however you want yeah sure all the ships have a role in the game and do certain things better example the culture pure combat ship yeah you can use it to do whatever you want but it just might not be that great at it and those who say 30ly jump range is trash on big or small ships are full of shit you dont absolutely need 60+ ly jump range to be an explorer and those that say some of the ships are useless well I strongly disagree

[@MistaGeezy90]

Exactly why I don't own any lakon ships for combat. The canopy is so weak

[@gregoirebasseville4797]

I don't get it ... You are low on weapon power and the enemy is out of shields, and you shoot pulse lasers instead of multicanons ? Why ??

[@AlpieInternet]

The t-10 is for mining

[@VindicatorJones]

Actually the T-10 was billed as a thargoid hunter....

[@AlpieInternet]

@@VindicatorJones Yes, but it turns out it is a really good mining ship - despite the role it's built for. This is due to the hard points and cargo space IMO

[@fotoschopro1230]

FLAP FLAP FLAP FLAP LOOK AT THAT CHICKEN HAHAHAHAHA

[@nanhat753]

fa off my arse..

[@ecevansevans2566]

Hello my mate, HAPPY NEW YEAR. VJ , I DONT like the type 10 , it is use less to me and a sign of FDEV being too lazy and unimaginable to think of , build and design. A new and advance war ship. THEY JUST THREW US A BONE. This ship , look like ,we got our asses kick and our only hope was to put together what was left out of the junk and call it the savior of humanity . The chieftain. Look like a copy of the tv series DARK MATTER on the sci-fi channel (The RAZA) or Alien movie ship the PROMETHEUS. FDev got no imagination left. I hope , we don’t lose this great space sim platform ELITE DANGEROUS because of no imagination,bug fixes, and just plain old badly thought out story and missions line.etc etc etc.

[@Pharesm]

this video... it has really annoying audio. You're rambling on and on, your voice sounds compressed and your ship's voice keeps jabbering through everything. Maybe a better microphone? Maybe not recording covas? idk.. Its like having a TV and a Radio running at the same time.

[@ferociouzmonk]

Well that's your issue... scrub