TYPE 23 (DUKE) CLASS FRIGATE BRIEF - NO.38

[@vxrdrummer]

None of the RN submariners I work with will say a word about these babies, but I spoke to some Yank sailors and they told me that if a Submarime wants to track a 23, then they have to look for a hole in the water as they are just that good. Even though they are known as Skoda class, they are mostly still going strong. They are the most gorgeous ships ever made as well. I went on one the other day and they are looking tired, but they have worked hard.

[@paultanton4307]

In the future the Type 23's will end up being considered the Royal Navy's best Escort Frigates due to their time in service (delayed well overdue replacements).Also the Sea Wolf VLS Tubes have not been replaced - the CAAM Missile is of a Smaller diameter so inserts were used to plug the original Tubes ( works out cheaper also ).

[@Duke_of_Petchington]

the Type 26 will be great replacement for such a fantastic line of Frigates the UK have had for almost 30 years

[@felipealcayaga]

What about Sea Ceptor?

[@Belisarius1967]

@@felipealcayaga CAAM is just a different name for Sea Ceptor.

[@martinchamberlain542]

Lord Reith would have approved of this video, it was both informative and entertaining. I very much enjoyed watching this, the delivery, by a human voice, was excellent. I now know a lot more about these very handsome warships. Thankyou!

[@johnaustin5677]

Great channel! Like Drachinifel for modern ships, you’ve got a sub from me. Happy Sailing with this endeavor. A weekly Q&A would be a great addition (if you don’t already have one, I’m new here). Cheers!

[@doonhamer252]

Hopefully as the UK ramps up the shipbuilding process, our yards will be revitalised and the property developers are evicted to allow for idled yards and drydocks to be brought back into service.

[@scottwhitley3392]

Due to the type 23s being designed for the North Atlantic they were designed with a very sturdy hull. Most have actually served in places like the Arabian gulf and Caribbean so have actually lasted longer than they were designed.

[@davependrill2897]

Served on hms marlborough. Loved my time onboard.

[@StephenSmithSimRacung]

Love your breakdowns, I used to be a Dockyard greeny (Electrical Engineer) @ HMNB Portsmouth. Looking forward to your Brief on the New frigates when they are in service.

[@DamonMcEwan]

Nice brief. They didn't have CPP's though, they had fixed pitch skew props. Going astern the GT's unclutch and the motors drive the shaft astern.

[@TheShipYard2]

Well sh”t, last time I’m taking info from an AB tasap

[@DamonMcEwan]

@@TheShipYard2 should have asked the stokers. Let me guess the Tas ape said it was a gen dit straight from the galley?

[@TheShipYard2]

well, it wasn't from the galley, but it was a 2nd hand dit. tbh, im a Gollie, so i havnt got a scooby about propellers. i always thought a VPP was better then a FPP and thus i thought this would have a VPP. but i shall stand corrected. sometimes i fear what ever i say in these briefs i always get something wrong. ah well

[@DamonMcEwan]

@@TheShipYard2 never let the truth get in the way of good dit.

[@TheShipYard2]

Exactly 😂😂😂

[@vxrdrummer]

Did you mention Artisan 3D Radar? Some 23s have it, the Carriers have it and T26 will have it.

[@JckSwan]

Such a beautiful looking ship.

[@yunus3435]

😂

[@TheStuart31]

Great video, mind you, the Type 26, and type 31. Seems to be a wee bit late. Entering service. Looks like the type 23s, Wil have to soldier on a while longer.

[@johnnywindsor183]

Served on HMS Norfolk and loved that ship, then went onto the portland and absolutely hated it then left the RN

[@vxrdrummer]

The Crighton Head 4.5!

[@DaveJMcGarry]

I'd love you do do a brief of HMS Avenger. One of my old ships. Sadly not with us anymore but had a better fate than the scrapyard!

[@4evaavfc]

I remember visiting HMS Marlborough in Auckland 2003.

[@jamesday1295]

The hawker hunter of ships. Just looks right

[@oldthrasbarg641]

It was a bloody good trip in 2007 on Monmouth

[@Dr_V]

I subscribed here to widen my perspective on modern naval forces, but my main interest is ships between the early steam era up to around the 1950s, so that's what I'm most familiar with. One thing I'm wondering about for some time is how these bulky superstructure designs solved the stability problem in rough seas, as most top-heavy WW1-WW2 era designs were infamous for rolling heavily in any kind of bad weather. Besides the weight, these modern superstructures are also rather wide and flat from the side, suggesting that wind pressure could become an issue as well. Can you enlighten me a bit on this matter?

[@paultanton4307]

Topweight has always been an issue for Warships,while the designs are very well thought through the Margins are very tight.Ships as built tend to be pretty stable but as time and Technology move on any Upgrades become a problem.A case in point on the Type 23's is the Type 997 Artisan Radar which replaced the original 996.It had to be designed and manufactured within strict weight limits to avoid any Topweight issues.The T23 Superstructure is also the first in RN sevice designed to reduce its Radar signature,whence its Slabsided look.

[@jangamaster8677]

Great Video. Keep up the brilliant work

[@craighagenbruch3800]

what do they mean by paid off? does "active service" count as working off their costs?

[@mk14m0]

“Paid off” means retired from service, in British parlance.

[@craighagenbruch3800]

ah ok thanks

[@buffalomerkis7603]

You have to include the wafu in the mix. The lynx helicopter is a great bit of kit, pitty the landing gear looks like a broken Tesco trolly. I know the odd angles of the wheels are for stability, but still looks weird….

[@barrycrosby8602]

Hms Richmond was the last ship built by original swan hunter what a shame one of the best naval shipyards in the world the yards now just rubble RIP swan hunter

[@potatopants4691]

Wouldn't it have been fairly easy to slap a goalkeeper or seaRAM above the aft helicopter hangar? Would have given the ship some form of CIWS., or is there a reason this was never done?

[@mstevens113]

Yeah, the British government don't consider properly funding the Royal Navy a priority.

[@paultanton4307]

They were not designed for the fitting of a CIWS,their role being ASW Specialists negated the need for one,Sea Wolf was considered good enough for its defence.Now Sea Wolf has been replaced by Sea Ceptor the rear Radar Director has been removed,the Hangar Roof is now pretty unclutered so in an emergency maybe a Phalanx could now be fitted.

[@davidstephen2015]

They didn’t have the topside weight allowance to fit Phalanx.

[@frostedcat]

i'll never not like the name Iron Duke

[@McCorduRoy1972]

Lovely ships but i consider the most of the weaponry placed at the forecastle and no real Ciws major design flaws. But they are by far the best looking class of ships of the RN.

[@martinjuulandersen9694]

She has point defence missiles so there is that. Can engage more targets and faster than lets say a goalkeeper system.

[@McCorduRoy1972]

@@martinjuulandersen9694 Goalkeeper is a last resort if missiles fail even the Seawolf VlS will not provide 100% coverage with only two illuminators.

[@martinjuulandersen9694]

Cor du Roy The effiency of CIWS system hasen’t been combat proven. So whether their effect is better than an active jamming or decoy systems is not proven. Also its a ASW platform not a GMD. So if its caught alone against a volley cruisemissile attack it meant someone fucked up.

[@paultanton4307]

@@McCorduRoy1972 The T23's were never designed to have a CIWS,if push came to shove maybe a Phalanx could go on the Hangar Roof but that would cause problems.The Sea Wolf Directors have gone now on the post LIFEX Ships,replaced by the much more capable Sea Ceptor System.

[@lukeallison3713]

Phalanx is too heavy to replace the ds30 mounts but millennium gun might just fit the bill in both roles the former fulfill and do better. Sea ceptor is a very small missile with capabilities that are exceptional for it's size but it is fundamentally a replacement for sea wolf which is really a missile ciws like ram (1-10km range), the upgrade being an ability beyond the range that also marks it as different from ram and sea wolf and more similar to essm. Their is also space where the sea wolf directors were but this still would be fairly problematic, though similar to where the type 22 goalkeeper mount was

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

HMS Summerset should have been renamed HMS Proper job!

[@hojer95]

Do a video on the Kirov and Slava class cruisers.

[@andrewhayes7055]

To be replaced by the type31, oh well!

[@paultanton4307]

Primarily the Type 26 will replace most of the T23's,C19 budget ammendments notwithstanding.

[@peterhudson9590]

It is a MISSILE not a missle.

[@arnanmitra9276]

Ayos lng yan kahit luma ang importante jan comportable naman na nkakatra mga navy natin at repair and alter at mai up grade ang weaponry and system dahil talaganv kailangan na natin dahil sa presure ma mabilis iayos yan ng magamit na agad saka na magpagawa ng brand new

[@leeblack7204]

Argyll - Old ships

[@Riazor1370]

Messy looks frigate, less estethics than the swan like Type 21and fortress like type 22.

[@markcedydabest5692]

this is a powerful war ship to be reckon with. We Filipinos are still hoping on AFP and Philippine government to acquire this war ship near to be decommissio All of its weapon system can be upgraded to a more powerful capabilities

[@LeeXRV]

You maybe able to buy the ship but the weapons onboard won't be sold to foreign Navies and they are unlikely to improve on the current standard.