Typhon GROM vs Losi Mini-B

Today I'm bringing out 2 of the Best 1/18th scale Buggies and putting them up agents each other in different terranes. 2 completely different cars with 2 different drivetrains with the same power systems in both.
ARRMA Typhoon Grom has 4 wheel drive with 2 differentials and a beefy chassis.
Losi Mini-B is RWD with single differential and a lightweight platform.
Both on 2s lipo with 2n1 Spektrum 6000kv Motor/ESC

[@markgrochowski7934]

This is my introduction to the channel and I love the video! It's nice to see someone compare two vehicles that are different. It's not always about seeing which is better, but just what the differences are. Then I can decide which is better for me.

[@TestDriverRC]

I have a lot of people come into the Hobby Shop looking for a good buggy and the question between these 2 cars came up.. "which one should I buy..? " I'm Happy it's helping you make a decision on which you like the best.

[@dru106]

I got the brushless mini b and I freaking love it!! Handles soo awesome and it jumps soo smooth!! Best mini RC for me at least!!

[@TestDriverRC]

They are so fun! I kinda need another one as a backup:)

[@Diaszurana]

I'm installing my brushless kit into my mini t today!

[@Georami]

Love the vid! Just getting into the hobby. Randomly bought a Typhon Grom at a hobby store for my son and we’re hooked! That other car you have is so cool

[@TestDriverRC]

You're about to go down a Rabbit Hole of FUN with your Son! Congratulations on the New Machine!

[@Georami]

@@TestDriverRC Thank you! What kind of maintenance or upkeep do you suggest doing on this truck? We drove it hard after a rainstorm through the mud, gravel and deep puddles. I took the shell off and dried the inside with a fan. Anything else I should be doing? I notice there’s so many metal parts. Is it at risk of rusting? Should I be scrubbing it clean after driving it? Thanks!

[@TestDriverRC]

@@Georami I wouldn't recommend getting the electronics wet but looks like you're treating your Machine with the proper love. Keep Having Fun!!

[@kg5nja693]

I really dig your video and that it has you and your son together. That’s awesome. I have to go with the mini B bc I have one but it’s brushed. Keep your videos coming.

[@TestDriverRC]

I think the Mini B is a Great RC! Id definitely recommend the Brushless system for yours. Thanks for the support and well be making new videos every week 😁

[@FarmerFpv]

Sorry for the second comment. In all my minis I run the Hobbywing Quicrun 16BL30 ESC with the 2435 4500kv or 4500kv G3 motor combo. They are about 60$ for the combo and it is a rock-solid system. The shaft won't break like the Soektrum Firma 2in1 motor ESC combo does.

[@TestDriverRC]

I'll definitely look into the hobbyeing Thanks for the comments!

[@Curly21029]

I’ll second the 16BL30/4500 combo. Have it in my Granite Grom. So much fun! Biggest complaint I have is I wish the settings were more granular. Ex. I run on 50% brake and would like a bit more, but it endos way too easily with the next step up. (75% - probably wouldn’t be an issue for the Typhon’s longer wheelbase) As for the Grom itself, biggest complaint is the reliance on preset mesh plates. (although, aftermarket alternatives exist now) I’m running an 18t pinion but use the 19t plate with a minor modification. I’d rather just be able to set my own mesh. Crazy fun rig, though! Thanks for the vid! Love my 6s Typhon, but I’m definitely interested in the Mini-B for variety’s sake!

[@themoakley9]

Did you have to use a different pin. gear or motor mount for this combo to work?

[@TestDriverRC]

@@themoakley9 The Losi Mini-B used the same pinion transferred to the new setup.. But the Typhon Grom Requires a Mod 0.5 with a 2.0mm ID I used the stock pinion in the video with a 2.3mm ID and caused the motor shaft to brake due to vibration

[@ironj100]

MINI B’s KICKASS

[@TestDriverRC]

I second that motion 🧐

[@bodhimakes1308]

Awesome vid man. Keep it up

[@TestDriverRC]

Thanks man. We definitely will

[@JiluMiah-ek2rd]

Cool comparison and drive in the rain

[@TestDriverRC]

Thanks man! We had alot of fun making this video

[@JiluMiah-ek2rd]

Oops forgot to subscribe 😅

[@user-ve9im7wb1k]

Nice video got excited learning about thier being a " mini" Typhon on the market but glad i watched your video before buying. The typhon IS sweet! But it can wait.... Helped me alot thank you. Mini B's do kick butt! 1/16th scale fighter jets on wheels

[@FarmerFpv]

Great video, Subscribed, bro. A fair comparison would have been the Associated Reflex 14B 4wd Buggy. I love mine but I had to add quite a bit of aftermarket parts to make it into the offroad carpet racer it is today. It is not good for bashing IMO. I was hoping the Typhon Grom with a brushless system would make the ultimate mini club racer for offroad carpet racing. If it handles well and is more durable than the Reflex14b that would be awesome. I'm waiting for mine to come in. 1/14 and 1/16 scale offroad carpet racing is becoming really popular. It started out with the cheap WLtoys the the Reflex 14b. So much fun when you have 4 or more on the carpet race track.

[@TestDriverRC]

I love how the Typhon GROM drives. It needs a good brushless to keep up with the mini b though. I'll have to check out that 14b someday

[@NatesRCclips]

Mines almost ready 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@TestDriverRC]

Wooooohoooooo!!! You're going to love it!

[@muligoon152]

The one variable that wasn't taken into account was the stock tires on both. I can't help but wonder how the Arrma would have handled the pavement with some street tires.

[@TestDriverRC]

Yeah with different compounds we might have gotten different results.. maybe paddle tires on the MiniB wouldve helped too

[@SebastianLong]

If the Typhon had street tires means it would get more grip meaning it would roll more often.

[@richardbrown6762]

I got one of each but my losi b is a brushed motor and not as fast as the grom but still fun both are good trucks here in Florida 🌴😎🌴

[@TestDriverRC]

Nice to see Florida in the House!! Which do you like more?

[@SebastianLong]

That Mini B is riding high. The arms should be level.

[@mostcallmerob]

man those motor shafts are snapping left and right. There's two other KZbinr's that have had their motor shafts snap with the Spektrum system.

[@johnc7753]

People are running stock pinions, which is 2.3 on a 2mm shaft. Huge imbalance problem

[@tjcoyle53]

ive had the same problem. Guess ill try the 2mm pinion

[@damaylaphoenix1155]

@@johnc7753 yup! and some are using 48 pitch pinions

[@slayreshilkett8173]

Mini b is the shit on smoothish ground. They handle so well and rip out of the box

[@TestDriverRC]

Mini-b vs Mini-t coming soon..

[@JoevsRc]

I like that mini b.

[@TestDriverRC]

I Actually like lt alot too.. they Typhon GROM just needs more power.. Wimpy Motor Shaft..

[@bigbristv]

Nice vid bro. Did you use the stock pinion?

[@TestDriverRC]

Thanks Man. Yeah I did use the stock pinions with the new Motors

[@bigbristv]

That was my downfall too. I got the Losi 18t pinion (2mm bore) and it fits like a glove.

[@TKO593]

I have 2 mini b brushless buggies. One is kinda stock with the 2 in 1 system and the other is a speed demon with a castle system. Ive clocked it at 61mph.

[@Harnanch]

Hi, i am looking for good shocks for my 14th scale and 12 scale cars. What aftermarket shocks can you recommend?

[@TestDriverRC]

Id defiantly go with Oil Filled and if possible Aluminum Caps. You can get away with using 1/10 scale Shocks.

[@Harnanch]

@@TestDriverRC Thanks, i will look at Arrma shocks for 1/10

[@wyattduncan136]

Get the brushless mini t rear tires for the mini b and it off roads much much better!

[@TestDriverRC]

I need to add the mini t to our collection!! Great idea

[@ErocsRc]

New subscriber nice vid.. 🤘🏿😎

[@TestDriverRC]

Thanks man 👍

[@dutchbiker7874]

Which motor/esc did you put in these cars? Nice comparison👍

[@TestDriverRC]

I used the Spektrum 6000kv 2n1 with ic2 plug

[@dutchbiker7874]

@@TestDriverRC I'm gonna look in to that, hope my Grom will arrive soon in the Netherlands!🤗

[@RcPlayer-tt2vw]

That two in ones a little small for the grom , if I do put that system in I will mount a 40 mm fan through the body and mini fan behind it . What’s good is that puny shaft no torque you don’t have to worry about the diffs , always give and take setting up RCs , love the mini B so much idk why I keep wasting my money with RTRS , I guess a lot cheaper and easier fun to collect

[@TestDriverRC]

@@RcPlayer-tt2vw athe Grom needs a more powerful Motor.. but then you'd have to upgrade the Differentials to metal

[@RcPlayer-tt2vw]

@@TestDriverRC I know , last time I went to lhs to buy the grom , they told me they had two returns because of the diffs , he told me even the metal ones but I think they’re plenty , just knuckleheads beating them up to much , I was going to get this guy today , I bet I won’t have issues even with stock diffs because I wouldn’t use it in the dirt much . I use the minis on roof top of buildings and the street . I did put a 2545 motor in the mini t , it was too big and I couldn’t find pinion gears to gear up the 2mm shaft motors , these combos seem to be the best for the losis but this typhon can take the 380 or 2545 motors , I have the team associated reflux too , idk how I haven’t stripped diff in that guy , with that one I found same small motor but just a little longer added 3$ fan and small hobbywing esc 30 amp I think I put stock system in another mini t , the mini b so much better than the mini b for upgrading . No room on a mini t

[@johnc7753]

The motor shaft failed due to user error. A 2.3mm bore pinion on a 2mm shaft creates significant vibration, and poor mesh. This is because the pinion rotation is no longer symmetrical, but offset.

[@TestDriverRC]

Looks like you found it. Good research 👍

[@damaylaphoenix1155]

i agree

[@maxeriousbrooks9807]

6000kv is way to high for 4wd as well the 6000kv is very Low torqe even in the light mini b it doesn't have much down low so it's gonna run hot in the typhon needs something in the 4000 range

[@joeprice3882]

I love my mini t ! Losi rules

[@TestDriverRC]

I haven't tried the Mini-T yet but it's definitely on my list after trying the Mini-B Losi is a Great Brand 👍

[@IsaacSchultz-lz8jc]

What is the receiver you’re using and is that the stock radio?

[@TestDriverRC]

I’m using a SR315 in both and an SLT3 and DX4 transmitters

[@IsaacSchultz-lz8jc]

I have to say breaking a motor shaft is the worst because it’s so expensive to fix.

[@TestDriverRC]

Especially when it’s a 2/1 esc motor combo

[@IsaacSchultz-lz8jc]

I recently broke a 1/10 scale rig motor and that just cost me 100 bucks so I know the pain

[@TestDriverRC]

@@IsaacSchultz-lz8jc Our next video will be TRX4 Traxx vs TRX4 Brushless So I’ll be doing that motor swap myself soon

[@damaylaphoenix1155]

No air flow ? isn't there a fan behind the motor? overheating cuz the kv too high and the motor too little . open the motor lets see how much is the esc!

[@TestDriverRC]

It would be interesting to open one up and see the inside 🤔💡

[@MV-df8jl]

The mini b seems to be more agile and nimble than the grom Typhon

[@TestDriverRC]

I Agree. The Typhon Grom is a heavy boy compared to the Mini-B.

[@Matthew-hr9eo]

​@@TestDriverRC cause mini b is a race buggy otter one is a basher completely different cars

[@johnc7753]

How is the heat on the spektrum combo?

[@TestDriverRC]

It tends to warm up.. the fan is needed or you'll have a thermal cut off

[@damaylaphoenix1155]

Your right the typhon grom is heavy , heavy duty! so i think that motor is too small for it. it is smaller than it look because it has a built in esc. I would not go any higher than 4000kv , the stock motor is a 28 turn which is like a 1200kv motor.

[@TestDriverRC]

I'm thinking it was under stress from vibration.. the motor shaft is 2mm and the pinion ID is 2.3mm.. so there was wiggle room

[@damaylaphoenix1155]

@@TestDriverRC no sir ! get a 2mm pinion . that 2.3 will break your motor shaft because it will wobble ! at least 5 other youtubers broke theirs because of this. most hobby stores carry the Roberson racing 2mm 0.5mod. Also make sure it a 0.5 mod and not a 48 pitch because that will cause a break also!

[@itz_lexiii_]

Not a flaw on the stock setup.

[@TestDriverRC]

I'm going back to stock until I find a better solution

[@itz_lexiii_]

@@TestDriverRCLet me know if you get something working. I wanna get a typhon grom but I also dont want a brushed one 😂

[@TestDriverRC]

@@itz_lexiii_ I'll definitely be working on the Typhon Grom soon. I'm not done with her yet!

[@ironj100]

O you put a brushless motor in the arrma TYPHON grom

[@TestDriverRC]

I DID!! But the shaft size was off by .3mm and cause it to vibrate broken

[@ruuster83]

theres alot to be said about the feel of the cars. Losi is more refined and built from a race car with engineering and professional drivers behind it. Arrma is better on paper but it's much like comparing MJX 1/14 to the Associated Reflex lineup. "Its cheaper , its faster, how can it not be better?!" Its just not, unless you start doing some modifications to improve handling.

[@ruuster83]

i spke too soon, the Losi is only really better on road. BUT it would also be better on most off road tracks, unless its extra bumpy. Arrma better all around but Losi a better racer

[@TestDriverRC]

@@ruuster83 They're both different in many ways. But they do what they were build for very well.

[@mzondi1970]

Why didn't you add the associated as well

[@TestDriverRC]

Which one?

[@chrismcmillian9061]

I'm guessing the 14b, it's very close in size, they are my favorites in the small scale world. ​@@TestDriverRC

[@mailonwilliams6864]

Can somone help me out im new to the rc world i want to buy a car but not sure on what to get i just want something with some speed right out the box and work my way up

[@TestDriverRC]

Definitely! I work at a hobby shop and the very best starter car in my opinion is the Arrma Senton 4x2. Extremely durable truck with a good amount of speed out the box. Plus has a lot of room to Upgrade in the future. But if you want a crash course and learn every part name with a build of your own. I’d recommend the Tamiya TT02

[@mailonwilliams6864]

@@TestDriverRC thank you

[@user-gi1pu9ri3g]

Tyres, Tyres, heat sink,😅😅

[@enricomiceli5517]

Losy had to stiff spings and heavy oil. Absolutely decent on track with jumps and some air time but terrible on gravel/offroad

[@TestDriverRC]

Losi is glued to the ground on road. Had no place on gravel

[@enricomiceli5517]

@@TestDriverRC i belive is also due to the weight, it is an incredibly light well designed buggy, the arrma is a heavyer powerful basher. In my opinion both fullfill their purpuse very well

[@TestDriverRC]

@@enricomiceli5517 Thats why you need them Both :)

[@1980VINZ]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="27">0:27</a> Do you have someone blind that you love ?

[@TestDriverRC]

Good Catch! It Says "Hopeless Romantic" Only those close to me can read it. Im actually Blind on my Right Side. But I'm very low key about it so don't tell anyone 🤫

[@1980VINZ]

@@TestDriverRC unbelievable……. You’re a great man, just for that I subscribe, rare are the men with true values today… Got you, you know I have a serious health problem too, more than 20 surgeries I stopped to count, RC is one of my rare motivations now… I hate playing the victim about my situation so I feel you. Anyway Big salut 🫡 from France dude ViNZ.

[@foyjustice7212]

Mini B beat a 4wd up. Nice

[@damaylaphoenix1155]

depend on the driver lol

[@kernalmusterd]

The mini t is a carpet track car

[@TestDriverRC]

I should give the carpet track a try

[@vipers3319]

The MJX Hyper Go beats both of these for less cost

[@TestDriverRC]

I haven't tried that one yet

[@vipers3319]

​@@TestDriverRC You'll like it. It comes with all the upgrades that people are doing on the typhoon.

[@lyricofwise6894]

​@@vipers3319In terms of durability and speed yea its a very strong basher, but the handling maybe less as good (tho the mini b more fragile)

[@richardbrown6762]

Not interesting you're trying to break your car