Typical installation of Ubuntu vs Arch vs Gentoo Linux...

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@Virbox
@Virbox Жыл бұрын
I made a 10-in-1 programming tutorial - kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zp67e3yJm8yJe7s
@1creeperbomb
@1creeperbomb 2 жыл бұрын
Ubuntu: Here's an easy GUI installer, it'll do everything for you Fedora: Here's a GUI installer but feel free to customize whatever you want either with installer or with terminal or something else like gparted Arch: Haha screw you and learn all my CLI tools Gentoo: *compile from source mortal*
@elektra81516
@elektra81516 2 жыл бұрын
Also Arch: Use archinstall 🗿
@davidwuhrer6704
@davidwuhrer6704 2 жыл бұрын
The Ubuntu graphical installer also allows you to customise whatever you want. It doesn't tell you how, but it allows it. Gentoo is easier and more straightforward to install and use than Arch. But yes, it compiles everything from source, which takes time and electricity, and, like Arch, it is rolling release, which means compile from source everyday. But the USE flag is without compare. Gentoo is great for clusters, or for building distributions from scratch; not so great for laptops.
@SeorBaltasar
@SeorBaltasar Жыл бұрын
busybox: figure out how to get the sources first, you bloaty beeing!!!
@gamingwithvaibhav2787
@gamingwithvaibhav2787 Жыл бұрын
lfs be like making a compiler from scratch to compile a cross compiler to compile a compiler that will compile the GCC
@adriantell7237
@adriantell7237 Жыл бұрын
@@elektra81516 a hate archinstall
@ezekiellaww2524
@ezekiellaww2524 Жыл бұрын
the reason most Arch users are so in your face about using it is because most of them installed it before the scripting came out and faced literal hell, so them always saying "hey I use Arch Linux for my computer btw" is something equivalent to "hey I fought and slayed a dragon and now hold it's head on my mantlepiece but it still doesn't connect to bluetooth btw"
@Potato_Quality7
@Potato_Quality7 Жыл бұрын
Yo, that bluetooth one, I thought I was alone 😭😭😭
@jorios550
@jorios550 Жыл бұрын
"Literal hell" Partition Pacstrap Chroot Update three or four configs Grub and grub-install Done.
@swordofstabbing
@swordofstabbing Жыл бұрын
@@jorios550 I think that stuff came after the scripting? EDIT: unless scripting is just archinstall specifically
@creepergd4884
@creepergd4884 Жыл бұрын
Oh dude for Bluetooth for me I have an Asus bt 500 and the only way I could even get that working was by downloading the driver from asus's website and running the install script. I wish I was joking but there was nothing in the AUR for this. Arch isn't hard in general, even that, but in this case arch didn't properly support those drivers and I went through Bluetooth hell.
@swordofstabbing
@swordofstabbing Жыл бұрын
Oh god creating the UEFI partition is hell
@Kodeb8
@Kodeb8 2 жыл бұрын
Installing Ubuntu is unironically easier than installing Windows.
@TriflingToad
@TriflingToad Жыл бұрын
Tell that to a first time installer that has only used windows their whole life 😭
@vijfsnippervijf
@vijfsnippervijf Жыл бұрын
@@TriflingToad F*** the privacy “options” though! Microsoft doesn’t care about privacy and is H A P P Y to support a dictator who also doesn’t care about other countries’ sovereignty… Yes I’m talking about the spyware that’s made to read everything you do in the most intrusive & inefficient way possible…
@georgeadrianstefan1676
@georgeadrianstefan1676 Жыл бұрын
​@@TriflingToad As an ex windows user, I can confirm that Ubuntu and Mint are way easier to install than any Windows
@victor_hernandez_g
@victor_hernandez_g Жыл бұрын
Yes, that's right.
@riverpool3cns4
@riverpool3cns4 Жыл бұрын
Kali is a nightmare
@brutester
@brutester 2 жыл бұрын
In my view, Gentoo is about learning the internals of packages and know how to troubleshoot and solve errors. And the knowledge is mostly transferable to any distro after that. I am the one everybody calls when their Linux distro fails to boot and they need hardcore recovery.
@ano_nym
@ano_nym 2 жыл бұрын
Arch is about being able to say that you use Arch. (It also has the coolest logo)
@itzlqmer6084
@itzlqmer6084 2 жыл бұрын
@@ano_nym ye and arch isnt even that hard to use
@ano_nym
@ano_nym 2 жыл бұрын
@@itzlqmer6084 yeah, once installed it's even one of the easier to use. As you have the AUR which makes install of many more programs easier.
@EloNaj
@EloNaj 2 жыл бұрын
@@itzlqmer6084 I changed to Gentoo a couple of years ago cause my toolchain destroyed itself too much on updates. And you can repair Gentoo even in the most absurd stages of destruction.
@sFeral
@sFeral Жыл бұрын
@@EloNaj timeline where timeshift doesn't exist
@oneandonly_h4
@oneandonly_h4 2 жыл бұрын
Gentoo taught me how to install Arch better than Arch did. I don't know if it was because of experience, but I installed Arch better than I used to from Gentoo.
@Virbox
@Virbox 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Gentoo improves Linux skills a lot
@Kin2InuYasha
@Kin2InuYasha 2 жыл бұрын
Crap, does this mean I need to install Gentoo now just for the experience? I've deployed arch on a couple of machines several years ago, but I've never dabbled with Gentoo.
@Endermen1094
@Endermen1094 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kin2InuYasha no it dues have a more user readable wiki
@Melechtna
@Melechtna 2 жыл бұрын
Gentoo taught me SO much when it comes to Linux, Arch seems like a cake walk now. The weird thing is, the more I learn about Linux, the more "curated" distros make my head hurt, because they break any time you try to do anything outside of their "vision".
@gabrielanio635
@gabrielanio635 2 жыл бұрын
@@Virbox real
@TurdInternational
@TurdInternational Жыл бұрын
Gentoo: what windows users think linux users do Arch: what linux users tell windows users they do Ubuntu: what linux users actually do 90% of the time
@NavatejRatnan
@NavatejRatnan 10 ай бұрын
🤓Not trueeee 😢I use arch btw
@niko.records
@niko.records 10 ай бұрын
ubuntu for begginers
@uooooooooh
@uooooooooh 9 ай бұрын
@@niko.records"People only say Ubuntu is for beginners because they want to feel superior. I *also* say Ubuntu is for beginners, because I *also* want to feel superior."
@jit_x
@jit_x 9 ай бұрын
I went ubuntu then hated canonical so I used debian sud but this year the updates froze to make the testing stable so I went msnjaro and used aur and broke my system... So I installed arch..... Now I proudly say I use ARCH btw...
@JoaoVictor-qm2co
@JoaoVictor-qm2co 9 ай бұрын
​@@uoooooooohbasic logic
@Melechtna
@Melechtna 2 жыл бұрын
You missed the part where Ubuntu decides to break itself just because it felt like it.
@ran2wild370
@ran2wild370 2 жыл бұрын
Don't install too many programs with apt install :-))
@GustavoGuedin
@GustavoGuedin 2 жыл бұрын
@@ran2wild370 This doesn't make any sense. If the repository packages break the installation, that means it's not well tested.
@oneandonly_h4
@oneandonly_h4 2 жыл бұрын
@@GustavoGuedin And definitely not ready for my 6000 packages
@simonecatenacci726
@simonecatenacci726 2 жыл бұрын
@@ran2wild370 And that's why flatpack is used
@foggs2275
@foggs2275 2 жыл бұрын
​@@simonecatenacci726 open a terminal and type lsblk | wc -l Then reread your comment.
@LordHonkInc
@LordHonkInc 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta give Ubuntu (or any other relatively easy to install distros like Fedora or openSUSE) credit; they might not be the best/fastest/smallest distros around, but you have to admit installing them is - in 90% of cases - really intuitive and leaves you with a default installation that would satisfy most "I have to work _at_ my PC, not _on_ it" users. Sure, getting the perfect install _for your specific needs_ isn't gonna be just the Ubuntu defaults, but it's still admirable to try and make it as easy as possible for the largest number of users with varying levels of skill.
@Draggobuttboi
@Draggobuttboi 2 жыл бұрын
Also Ubuntu: I'm just going to ignore where you selected to install grub.
@user-gw1sh9qc2s
@user-gw1sh9qc2s 2 жыл бұрын
Using gentoo is not necessarily to achieve a smaller or faster system. Its to achieve a system that you can administrate without the choices made by distro maintenance teams.
@vincentschumann937
@vincentschumann937 2 жыл бұрын
@@Draggobuttboi one of the reasons why i dont recommend ubuntu to new people just use debian also very easy to use and setup but is far more reliable
@Schultz3
@Schultz3 2 жыл бұрын
The best install is debian, it's intuitive and can be tailored to your needs if you want to. It's not hard locked like Ubuntu, and not stupid like Arch. The only "issue" is with non-free packages, but that's just one command you need to put in.
@bacalhau_seco
@bacalhau_seco 2 жыл бұрын
@@Schultz3 as stable as debian is i prefer to use arch, im a lot more used to it
@vorxsaken15
@vorxsaken15 2 жыл бұрын
Dude install an os every time he boot his computer, what a chad ...
@lenagopakumar1421
@lenagopakumar1421 4 ай бұрын
his name is litterally virtualbox its a vm rly why are you even watching
@YaroLord
@YaroLord Жыл бұрын
Arch users feeling like top tier hackers after merely copy pasting every step on the wiki and not even understanding what or why they’re doing it 😂
@chevvvv
@chevvvv Жыл бұрын
haven't even touched Arch yet but I had a feeling it'd be like that
@stingfiretube
@stingfiretube Жыл бұрын
Copying is completely fine cause the wiki is meant for it, and you also don't want to screw up your machine. But bragging rights come with understanding each of those steps.
@VioletRM
@VioletRM Жыл бұрын
you only get to brag when you do it from memory B)
@dog4ik
@dog4ik Жыл бұрын
@@chevvvv nowadays it comes with archinstall so it got a lot simpler
@scrapmine
@scrapmine 7 ай бұрын
I mean you just create, format and mount partitions and use packstrap to install the things needed for a working system.
@miniimposter
@miniimposter Жыл бұрын
I like the fact that you pick "The only thing they fear is you" for Gentoo
@gentoolinuxuser4387
@gentoolinuxuser4387 2 жыл бұрын
i once installed gentoo on a core 2 duo thinkpad with 2 gigs of ram on an old hdd. I also made breakfast & dinner on the laptop whilst it was compiling everything
@Vilematrix
@Vilematrix 2 жыл бұрын
You know you have gone to far, when you want to install gentoo to relax.
@r4ng3l56
@r4ng3l56 2 жыл бұрын
damn
@user-uo8ny1kj4c
@user-uo8ny1kj4c Жыл бұрын
yeah everybody knows that freebsd is clearly superior to gentoo
@degastar
@degastar 5 ай бұрын
Unironically I find installing Gentoo to be therapeutic. After you've done it a few times, you get familiar - nothing about it is scary and it becomes routine. So I actually find doing a Gentoo install with a new target goal (maybe another DE, maybe another init, let's try musl, etc.) to be a good way to unwind while solidifying my Linux skills and probably learning a new thing or two while I'm at it.
@Vilematrix
@Vilematrix 5 ай бұрын
@@degastar my dad sometimes looks over my shoulder and says, how do you remember all that. I had the same when he was working with floppy disks. Ive looked in the docs of Gentoo and its nice. If you take your time to read and have worked with linux before, you will figure it out. Although ive worked with Parrot, blackarch and kali in the past to test my LAN, i personally found a automated and minimalist design more pleasant, but to each there own.
@Liaret
@Liaret 2 жыл бұрын
I'm using Gentoo (with custom kernel config, not some genkernel) daily as my work machine. Yes, it took about 3 months to configure and tweak everything, but it's also as fast as slim as I can probably make it.
@bruxotlaloc
@bruxotlaloc 2 жыл бұрын
You know you can use genkernel to automate the installation and run --menuconfig to configure it before compiling, right?
@Liaret
@Liaret 2 жыл бұрын
@@bruxotlaloc wdym by automating installation? I wanted to make sure I'm only using kernel flags required by my hardware and use cases, and nothing more.
@bruxotlaloc
@bruxotlaloc 2 жыл бұрын
@@Liaret by automating install I meant executing all the commands (make, make modules, make modules_install, cp vmlinuz /boot...). You can use genkernel to do that (command is genkernel all). And you can run genkernel with --menuconfig which will prompt the ncurses menuconfig to run before compiling so you can set up your kernel.
@Liaret
@Liaret 2 жыл бұрын
@@bruxotlaloc Ah, thanks, good to know! I guess I'm still glad I got thru that experience back then, if anything I had to learn more the inner workings of linux and unix OS's. But I'll def use genkernell all in the future.
@bruxotlaloc
@bruxotlaloc 2 жыл бұрын
@@Liaret I did too! I'm from the time were we didn't have many options to set up stuff. But I'm glad we do have these options today so we can cut a few corners. You might also like to know that you probably have a few kernel configurations in /etc/kernels/ and that you can do make localmodconfig to strip away all unneeded modules from the kernel build. Good luck!
@massaynus
@massaynus 2 жыл бұрын
It is the fact that he installed Arch off the top of his mind and proceeded to ask about closing the terminal for me
@Cargren18
@Cargren18 4 ай бұрын
3:07 Wait a minute he's using Linux Mint
@tminhThem80
@tminhThem80 3 ай бұрын
its cinnamont desktop not mint
@Cargren18
@Cargren18 2 ай бұрын
​​@@tminhThem80I told Mint because the menu has the Linux Mint Logo
@DaRealTriTi
@DaRealTriTi 8 күн бұрын
pretty sure its easier to install gentoo from a existing linux os than the install medium
@santitabnavascues8673
@santitabnavascues8673 6 ай бұрын
Am I the only to think Arch installation is pure art? That is a Linux in its most refined form, a black screen and almost zero resources wasted. Like an empty canvas ready for whatever you want to put in it
@fcolecumberri
@fcolecumberri 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, you loose some swag points for using ext4 instead of btrfs (ext4 is ok, but looses on swag), you didn't create a user for gentoo, therefore after reboot you will be stuck at the login and clearly your make.conf USE flags missed pipewire or pulseaudio (and don't tell me it's a soundless sever, you added alsa). However 9.99/10.
@Virbox
@Virbox 2 жыл бұрын
ALSA alone works just fine 😎 After reboot, I can login as root and continue configuring. I check if btrfs really better, though
@fcolecumberri
@fcolecumberri 2 жыл бұрын
@@Virbox you can login with root? You didn't gave root a password. (I'm just messing with you at this point, it was an aweasome video)
@Virbox
@Virbox 2 жыл бұрын
@@fcolecumberri The password doesn't matter - the PC burnt out 🔥
@bacalhau_seco
@bacalhau_seco 2 жыл бұрын
@Xspire why not grub
@anatolydyatlov963
@anatolydyatlov963 2 жыл бұрын
@@bacalhau_seco Because it isn't swag. It's all about the swag, bro
@foca2002
@foca2002 2 жыл бұрын
I first used Linux in the late 90s, when I bought a magazine with Slackware 3.5, after that I always believed that Linux only get easier to use with the years.
@user-uo8ny1kj4c
@user-uo8ny1kj4c Жыл бұрын
and you were right! Even the harder distros to use back then are easy to install now. Even slackware nowadays can be installed with ease
@imzesok
@imzesok 2 жыл бұрын
Arch now has a scripted installer on the iso, you don't have to do all this manually anymore. all you had to do was run 'archinstall', and you just choose your options via the procedural menu, and you're done relatively quickly.
@groundfx5733
@groundfx5733 2 жыл бұрын
this would have been nice to know a month ago
@shambhav9534
@shambhav9534 2 жыл бұрын
@@groundfx5733 It had been there for a very long time, just a little less fancy and working. Yeah, but it was pretty impossible to find before it got an update and was hyped up. And that happened in like, May? I have used that older version and it could not install a DE, so I had to do a minimal install, and then install a DE myself. It was certainly buggy, but it did the job without me needing to spend hours on the Wiki page.
@anatolydyatlov963
@anatolydyatlov963 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, sad times :/
@jort93z
@jort93z 2 жыл бұрын
archinstall never worked for me. It gives me a ton of errors every time. I heard they made it better since I tried last time, so I tried using it a few days ago. I ended up dicking around with it for literal hours, just the install script crashing and me having to enter the same values again. I then decided to f it and just did it manually. Was done in like half an hour.
@shambhav9534
@shambhav9534 2 жыл бұрын
@@jort93z Have you submitted the bug report?
@noname-chan
@noname-chan Жыл бұрын
In 2014 I spent 2 weeks to install gentoo and since then my knowledge of linux has almost always increased. Only a year ago I installed this system on my PC as the only one and I can confidently say that it is well configured, works stably and if something breaks I have no problem fixing it, no problem setting up kvm/bluetooth/wifi/clang+musl+libcxx/zfs and a bunch of other stuff. Almost everything shown in the video I either remember by heart or know how to find in a couple of minutes. I sincerely sympathize with people who get into this without proper motivation and a good base. If I wasn't an enthusiast, I'd spit on everything myself and use Windows :D
@Physhi
@Physhi Жыл бұрын
I only use Gentoo at home. I have a Gentoo server on my personal network so it refreshes and compiles every day at a specific time, my computers x64_86 immediately pick up when their build is ready via simple scripts. I also have other automatic builds for ARM32&ARM64 along with other builds that demand small amount of space. I've always managed to get more space on the internal disks with super small builds.
@zer0pointnothing
@zer0pointnothing Жыл бұрын
arch makes you feel good that you did a thing when you (eventually) set it up right and the way you want it.
@comincep
@comincep 5 күн бұрын
Gentoo = stable Arch = bit less stable Ubuntu: breaks every second
@christianb9077
@christianb9077 Жыл бұрын
Installing Gentoo has gotten much easier since you don't need to configure and compile a kernel anymore (you can still do it yourself, though). If you just want a running gentoo system and follow the handbook, I guess you could be done installing the base system in about 30-45 minutes; this would leave you with a minimal installation with no desktop environment, no office suite and so on. Installing those would of course take a while, depending on your processing power and RAM.
@meikala2114
@meikala2114 Жыл бұрын
I have successfully install gentoo, it took 4 weeks as the compiling took so long at each emerge that that I went away and lived my life, and then eventual remembered.... hmmm I wonder what's next on that install, days could go by between 'teaks' on a plain vanilla install, go away now the law, sleep go to work, one back hmmm, only had one stuff up in the Fstab file, it was pretty plain sailing if Sloooooooowwwwww, old intel Nuc it was,... then tried to install a GUI, plasma, And got a 4 way circular dependency, so at this point I got the gentoo taxidermied and mounted it above the fireplace,
@kenbaird7454
@kenbaird7454 11 ай бұрын
NGL, I don't really see the point installing gentoo without manual kernel configuration, that is one of the main points for using it.
@turtlefrog369
@turtlefrog369 3 ай бұрын
he literally used genkernel. but yeah some aspects of gentoo have gotten easier over time. even from 1 year ago til now.
@peacefulexistence_
@peacefulexistence_ 2 жыл бұрын
> Uses iwctl to connect to a network but cfdisk to partition
@anshiksingh4130
@anshiksingh4130 2 жыл бұрын
Nmcli is also good to connect network kid
@aarohgokhale8832
@aarohgokhale8832 2 жыл бұрын
Cfdisk gives you a visual representation which is much nicer to have for something like disk partitioning. Wifi is super basic so just using cli is pretty good
@peacefulexistence_
@peacefulexistence_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@aarohgokhale8832 Disk partitioning is also pretty basic, so you might as well go all the way
@oneandonly_h4
@oneandonly_h4 2 жыл бұрын
@@anshiksingh4130 Or wpa_supplicant
@deathmetal10line
@deathmetal10line 9 ай бұрын
make more like this please. seeing installation in some different speeds makes you feel agitated but enjoyed.installation is an art with its all completeness.
@DelevarOfficial
@DelevarOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
This video is actually a good install guide lol
@MK73DS
@MK73DS 11 ай бұрын
Following the magnificent arch wiki installation guide is not hard. It looks hard, but it's not. And it's insightful. I learned so much about how my computer works simply by installing it myself. I know this doesn't make me a developer or a big nerd able to do everything by myself, but at least it gives me the impression to know my machine.
@kenbaird7454
@kenbaird7454 11 ай бұрын
Honestly, how hard it is entirely depends on how well you know the terminal. The hard part is not really following it, its troubleshooting, You have to actually know what the commands do to know how to figure out what you messed up. BUT, if you know your way around the terminal, then yes, it really isn't that bad.
@shambhav9534
@shambhav9534 2 жыл бұрын
Arch Linux also features archinstall, which is like any of your standard installer, but in CLI.
@coffee-is-power
@coffee-is-power 2 жыл бұрын
Not quite, it's pretty customizable and you can use it as a python library to create your own installer.
@UltraNyan
@UltraNyan 2 жыл бұрын
True sigma installs ubuntu, then uses ubuntu as runtime environment to install gentoo. Booots into gentoo to install the ultimate OS, arch linux.
@Kneedragon1962
@Kneedragon1962 2 жыл бұрын
Gentu -> One step above Linux-From-Scratch.
@ulcuber
@ulcuber 2 жыл бұрын
The upper level the more exp you need between levels. To install LFS you will need twice your exp if you already tried Gentoo
@Pavel-ix6gd
@Pavel-ix6gd 7 ай бұрын
Just used archinstall script yesterday, took like 1 min to set up and 5 mins to copy files, result is fully working OS with video drivers and gnome/kde
@Milena-ix5mq
@Milena-ix5mq 11 ай бұрын
Somehow the sounds played as you were displaying the logos of the distros felt very accurate 😂
@gerardoovalle2785
@gerardoovalle2785 Жыл бұрын
I've been using Ubuntu for years now. It lets me do work. Instead of working on the OS figuring out how to make things happen.. Ubuntu for actual work is great... That's what I like. I'm sure there are other great distros but that works for me ...
@Monah1744
@Monah1744 2 жыл бұрын
Це найкраще відео-порівняння яке я міг бачити за весь час використання мною Arch і Gentoo. Дуже повеселило. Дякую
@Virbox
@Virbox 2 жыл бұрын
Я радий, що вам сподобалося!
@akatsuki_mf1177
@akatsuki_mf1177 Жыл бұрын
Love how this is so accurate
@TechnicolorMammoth
@TechnicolorMammoth 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, I get why you didn’t include LFS. We’d be here for actual hours even sped up.
@imzesok
@imzesok 2 жыл бұрын
of course he could have done it and just saved a lot of our time by starting the chroot, and the jump to a screen saying "one eternity later..." and then jump to the final reboot into LFS. 🤣
@by3lish
@by3lish Жыл бұрын
0:52 the 1337 detail
@jameslindsayiv4278
@jameslindsayiv4278 10 ай бұрын
1:24 real men use fdisk
@hermask815
@hermask815 15 күн бұрын
Or some Neanderthals (ms-dos 3 times)
@aaaaaa-hh8cq
@aaaaaa-hh8cq Жыл бұрын
I really like your videos 😂😂😂 Both educational and funny and you don't waste time on anything 👌🏻❤️ (other than installing arch btw 😁)
@NotGarbageLoops
@NotGarbageLoops 10 ай бұрын
Stop it, you're giving me The Craving for a new Gentoo build
@deusexaethera
@deusexaethera 2 жыл бұрын
Even manually installing Kubuntu on a ZFS filesystem is less effort than installing Arch or Gentoo.
@joebuydem
@joebuydem 2 жыл бұрын
The reason unbuntu is used in educational institutions.
@seancondon5572
@seancondon5572 2 жыл бұрын
What? Because you learn NOTHING while installing?
@AaronTechnic
@AaronTechnic 2 жыл бұрын
@@seancondon5572 you know, some people just want to use their computer.
@seancondon5572
@seancondon5572 2 жыл бұрын
@@AaronTechnic those people should be using windows then.
@ozerune
@ozerune 2 жыл бұрын
@@AaronTechnic Mint is better for that than Ubuntu is. Especially if you're using Nvidia
@AaronTechnic
@AaronTechnic 2 жыл бұрын
@@seancondon5572 So you're saying that Linux users must learn how to use the terminal?
@shambhav9534
@shambhav9534 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, now I know my frustrations with iwctl is universal. Every time I go to install Arch, I feel like I will never be able to connect to my internet every again.
@zer0pointnothing
@zer0pointnothing Жыл бұрын
when you have to run iwctl several times in a week, it tends to get baked into your brain haha. you end up remembering the commands after awhile. or at least that's my experience.
@shambhav9534
@shambhav9534 Жыл бұрын
@@zer0pointnothing iwctl station [station] connect [ssd] Is that right? I won't bother checking.
@zer0pointnothing
@zer0pointnothing Жыл бұрын
@@shambhav9534 pretty much. and if you know most of the network's name, TAB complete can make it even easier.
@PascalxSome
@PascalxSome 2 жыл бұрын
A Gentoo installation is the first thing our apprentices have to do :) Most of them never used a terminal before.
@TheBoostedDoge
@TheBoostedDoge 2 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for them but I feel even more sorry for you, if you're the one teaching
@PascalxSome
@PascalxSome 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBoostedDoge Tbh, If you read carefully, and have a motivation to solve problems, it's not that hard. The documentation is really good and the process gives me a lot of feedback about that person. also I want them to ask questions or consult me if they stuck. I just lead them to the answer. I just hate that most of them really stop trying after they fail, and don't even bother to read further or ask.
@TheBoostedDoge
@TheBoostedDoge 2 жыл бұрын
@@PascalxSome My problem was that I used to hate reading and I'm kinda slow. Fortunately my Linux tutor (I'm taking a network\sys admin course) is one of those people who if they see potential in you he won't give up on you. I said I feel bad for you bc in my class there are a lot of people who after 50h of straight up linux seems like they haven't learned anything and simply refuse to make a legitimate attempt to learn. The thing is, and it's what they don't realize is that it's like you said, if you bother to read and interpret the documentation, it's all there Anyway man, best of luck with your apprentices I hope you can get some motivation into them.
@PascalxSome
@PascalxSome 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBoostedDoge Thanks, also good luck to your journey! Yeah hope they will too, it can be lots of fun too
@MarshalerOfficial
@MarshalerOfficial Жыл бұрын
I've managed to get Gentoo goin' in VirtualBox. Yeah it's was complicated as usual but I like typing and feeling a sense of succeeding and scrolling text. I was curious(mostly stemming from WindowsG Electronics and mister Outlaw himself) and thank goodness that my computer didn't explode during the emerge processes. My make.conf file was primitive during all of that, MAKEOPTS were set as well as special arguments pertaining for Xorg(post install) and let's not forget USE but everything else was absent.
@user-uo8ny1kj4c
@user-uo8ny1kj4c Жыл бұрын
He fell for the meme
@matyi1656
@matyi1656 9 ай бұрын
I love how Gentoo promises efficiency while also burning shitload of energy to achieve it
@LauLauHip
@LauLauHip 5 ай бұрын
I am now officially watching from my brand new Gentoo install (It's the first time I ever installed linux). Used systemd and kde plasma, it was a fun experience for sure! Now I just gotta wait for steam to compile lol
@aratof18
@aratof18 4 ай бұрын
gentoo + systemd sounds illegal
@LauLauHip
@LauLauHip 4 ай бұрын
@@aratof18 I'm not bothering with openrc. It takes much more effort to set up and there's no difference in performance anyway
@panxogaming1782
@panxogaming1782 9 ай бұрын
Arch install can be terrifying the 1st times, but after running modded steam games having everything mounted correctly is so satisfying xD
@Mohruebi
@Mohruebi 2 жыл бұрын
the weak password is a nice touch
@404errorpagenotfound.6
@404errorpagenotfound.6 Жыл бұрын
How did I know from the title there would be doom metal....I just knew.
@mataznuiz
@mataznuiz 2 жыл бұрын
is the penguin pigeon in the thumbnail from winged experience lol
@Virbox
@Virbox 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe 👀
@mataznuiz
@mataznuiz 2 жыл бұрын
i love that channel
@mataznuiz
@mataznuiz 2 жыл бұрын
u earned a sub
@Virbox
@Virbox 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks and welcome! :D
@mynameisjesus88
@mynameisjesus88 2 жыл бұрын
Arch has the archinstall since a bit...this is piece of cake now!
@Vienna3080
@Vienna3080 Жыл бұрын
Unrealistic Ubuntu didn’t spontaneously combust for no reason
@B1rtek
@B1rtek 2 жыл бұрын
Assuming that you don't have another os installed or mutliple disks, archinstall should help you a lot. Unfortunately, it very often isn't the case...
@zer0pointnothing
@zer0pointnothing Жыл бұрын
archinstall is only an issue when you want to dual boot on the same drive, since I believe os-prober can still be run and GRUB can be reconfigured after archinstall is done installing on the drive you told it to. But if you are trying to dual boot on one drive, you''re pretty much on your own lol. Correct me if I am wrong, though.
@B1rtek
@B1rtek Жыл бұрын
@@zer0pointnothing I'm pretty sure that you can't choose a single partition in there, only a single drive, so if you want to dualboot off one, you need to do a manual installation, it won't take much longer compared to archinstall if you know what to do
@zer0pointnothing
@zer0pointnothing Жыл бұрын
@@B1rtek That's what I meant. On a dual boot situation, you can't use archinstall as easily, because you don't have something like cfdisk, making it less user friendly.
@zer0pointnothing
@zer0pointnothing Жыл бұрын
Though you technically can, using a built in tool, but for someone who's not used to something like that, it's near impossible.
@fuxi1444
@fuxi1444 2 жыл бұрын
2 days ago I just decided that it would be fun to make a gentoo VM, it’s my first time with it, howly cow
@plebisMaximus
@plebisMaximus 2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing it's still compiling
@user-uo8ny1kj4c
@user-uo8ny1kj4c Жыл бұрын
@@plebisMaximus You probably fell for the meme because you wanted to feel superior.
@dxaniol
@dxaniol Жыл бұрын
as a gentoo user can confirm thats true
@taigo5766
@taigo5766 10 ай бұрын
As a Gentoo user I can confirm I update my system when my room is cold
@StupidusMaximusTheFirst
@StupidusMaximusTheFirst 2 жыл бұрын
I love it how the arch hax0r is 'messing with the mirror list'😃 Gentoo music is accurate. 😂
@awesomethegreatamazing2651
@awesomethegreatamazing2651 Жыл бұрын
Time to install Linux from scratch now
@omaryousri-bg2nl
@omaryousri-bg2nl 3 ай бұрын
Installing arch seems fun!
@Yggdra666
@Yggdra666 Жыл бұрын
I am watching this while my kernel compiles.
@Random0890_
@Random0890_ 7 ай бұрын
you forgot the part of the linux installation where you forget to install NetworkManager and sudo and have have to go back to the usb drive to install it
@swagmuffin9000
@swagmuffin9000 Жыл бұрын
Sick riff playing on the gentoo one
@08ya08
@08ya08 Жыл бұрын
Have not you build Red Hat kernels back in the days? :) Nice video.
@anima94
@anima94 Жыл бұрын
I now reconsidered installing arch
@chickenman404
@chickenman404 2 жыл бұрын
I do not blame you for seemingly using a VM for Gentoo.
@aspiesoft
@aspiesoft Жыл бұрын
installing gentoo can be helpful if you want to learn how to develop your own operating system
@theworstredstoner0950
@theworstredstoner0950 6 ай бұрын
What is the arch linux installer song?
@heikkint
@heikkint 6 ай бұрын
Should have added parts where the camera jumps from the screen and there is some random demon slaughter and then returning back to definitions.
@st4rm4st3r
@st4rm4st3r 2 жыл бұрын
Arch, Gentoo, that's cute, i learned how to install Crux :3
@redrush-hp9li
@redrush-hp9li 2 жыл бұрын
crux is not difficult to install just follow the manual 💀
@st4rm4st3r
@st4rm4st3r 2 жыл бұрын
@@redrush-hp9li I did, the manual contradicts itself for VM use :D
@mikulasv7293
@mikulasv7293 2 жыл бұрын
When I installed Gentoo first time, it took me like 2 days. I mean seriously. Even with KZbin tutorial on phone.
@TheFrantic5
@TheFrantic5 2 жыл бұрын
It's not a real Arch install until "ILoveCandy" is activated.
@FBW81C
@FBW81C Жыл бұрын
What‘s the name of the song during the Arch installation?
@max-i7s
@max-i7s 4 ай бұрын
it's a song made by the creator of the video Virbox - Floater: kzbin.info/www/bejne/inaVpIF_jL5_passi=AZ97JVIiHqhI7zcI
@benzenatizineeddine7816
@benzenatizineeddine7816 4 ай бұрын
What's the music during arch installation i like it
@Virbox
@Virbox 4 ай бұрын
"Floater" at @VirboxMusic
@benzenatizineeddine7816
@benzenatizineeddine7816 4 ай бұрын
@@Virbox Thanks!!!
@deanspanos8210
@deanspanos8210 2 жыл бұрын
Wake up, Neo.
@HereticRamza
@HereticRamza 5 ай бұрын
Is there a full version of the song you used for the Arch Linux install? You made it, right? I really liked it. Thank you!
@Virbox
@Virbox 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! It's on Virbox Music channel, the track is Floater
@Linkachus17
@Linkachus17 Жыл бұрын
yeah I remember completely broke my WiFi hardware (I think it was a switch to turn on WiFi module I guess?) when installing Arch Linux for the first time on host machine (I’ve done it on VirtualBox only)
@bearwolffish
@bearwolffish 8 ай бұрын
1st half a second was the ubuntu install process, rest was waiting for the mouse to move.
@tomuplayer3556
@tomuplayer3556 11 ай бұрын
Just made my first Arch install with kde plasma, and mac os theming
@HermesSilva-xt6dt
@HermesSilva-xt6dt 2 ай бұрын
Being and arch user (Cause I use arch btw) talking about Gentoo feels like being heavy in the TF2 meet heavy video
@sipsip2367
@sipsip2367 2 жыл бұрын
installing arch can be easy too. for those new users of linux who may take this meme a bit too much literal
@s.s.85
@s.s.85 3 ай бұрын
Does anyone know what's the music being used as the background for Arch install? It's been stuck in my head for days...
@Virbox
@Virbox 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, it's "Floater" at VirboxMusic :)
@THEPUNISHERBRAZIL
@THEPUNISHERBRAZIL 3 ай бұрын
Why they make so hard to install?
@Arnob-vm4ub
@Arnob-vm4ub Жыл бұрын
What's the music during the arch linux installation?
@Virbox
@Virbox Жыл бұрын
I made, it, I will publish it on Virbox Music channel sooner or later :)
@reinasama904
@reinasama904 Жыл бұрын
@@Virbox Please do! I've been looking for it for an hour thinking an artist named ME actually made it lol
@Requiem100500
@Requiem100500 Жыл бұрын
@@Virbox still waiting
@Cargren18
@Cargren18 Жыл бұрын
​@@Requiem100500Same, that Arch Linux Music Gave a total different vibe i was in a mood to just listen to it continuously.
@melarbi
@melarbi 2 жыл бұрын
here before you blow up 🫡 noice vids
@Virbox
@Virbox 2 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@KotatkoVonDrapek
@KotatkoVonDrapek Жыл бұрын
watching this while compiling my kernel
@micmacha
@micmacha 2 жыл бұрын
The first time I installed Ubuntu, after having messed with Susé and Mandrake in the past, it went so smoothly and quickly I called BS. Turned out I was wrong. Everything actually _was_ fine.
@O5MO
@O5MO Жыл бұрын
I installed arch on an old laptop, and when compiling even small packages it takes ages and heats up a ton, if i tried to install gentoo, it would unironically be completely fried unless i disconnect the power supply in time.
@3y6HuK_
@3y6HuK_ 2 жыл бұрын
I'm using Gentoo now, by the way. 😁
@jamesyoung151
@jamesyoung151 2 жыл бұрын
Same. Been using it for years. I started Linux with Slackware.
@user-uo8ny1kj4c
@user-uo8ny1kj4c Жыл бұрын
you fell for the meme. 💀
@galacthicc693
@galacthicc693 2 жыл бұрын
God I love computers so much I wish they were harder to use
@kevinyoliveira68
@kevinyoliveira68 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@3RR0RNULL
@3RR0RNULL 4 ай бұрын
“Minimal” my guy that was like 20 packages you installed, minimal arch is like 6 at most.
@lucaslzt
@lucaslzt 11 ай бұрын
I liked the Ubuntu installation music. Go Ubuntu
@MrCmon113
@MrCmon113 10 ай бұрын
Wouldn't it be way easier to have the options on a website and modify the download of Arch, Gentoo, etc depending on those options, so that you can simply install them like Windows or Ubuntu?
@uooooooooh
@uooooooooh 9 ай бұрын
What options? Arch comes with a decent install script, and the whole point of Gentoo is to compile everything you can for your system so even with a script you're going to spend a long time waiting for your system to cook. Neither are Windows, and neither of them are trying to be. I'd rather manually configure everything while setting up from a minimal install instead of the Windows way of proving an awful base install you need to spend hours configuring, ripping stuff out of, and running random scripts from github to TRY to customize anything anyway.
@lucolesco
@lucolesco 9 ай бұрын
That would be unnecessarily complicated to make and would demand a lot of work to maintain. Another thing is that Arch is rolling release, so your ISO would become outdated a couple of days later and your installation attempt would crash. I think that would be better suited to immutable distros which primarily focus on reproducibility.
@deusdeusasmodeus
@deusdeusasmodeus 2 жыл бұрын
what hacker movies use when "hacking".
@plebisMaximus
@plebisMaximus 2 жыл бұрын
Just the other day I saw some "hacker" b-roll footage, which just showed someone installing vim. It's pretty epic.
@deusdeusasmodeus
@deusdeusasmodeus 2 жыл бұрын
@@plebisMaximus i saw some movie where a hacker was printing his ping to a server repeatedly 🤣🤣
@davidwuhrer6704
@davidwuhrer6704 2 жыл бұрын
When did they stop using Enlightenment? Just doing "ls --color /usr/bin" is enough for things to look like the Matrix to mere users.
@reptilext2658
@reptilext2658 2 жыл бұрын
when the DOOM music hit.. I knew.. I knew 😂
@ran2wild370
@ran2wild370 2 жыл бұрын
Make video about installing vanilla RHEL, not a clone. 😃😃
@Fizcakesprite
@Fizcakesprite 4 ай бұрын
I used Arch not even a year into linux, second time using it I did a manual install. (It's not that hard)
@unoriginalname3442
@unoriginalname3442 3 ай бұрын
Its not hard if you're jobless or are just doing it for a hobby. Theres no reason to use arch over any other distro; the pacman repo isnt that useful to justify its use. There are are more functional distros that still manage to have an easier installation process than arch. There isn't an execuse anymore
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