Tyra SHAMES Model For Her Skin Texture - Photographer Reacts

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Today we take a look at cycle 1's SNAKE photoshoot on America's Next Top Model.
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[@NayaBarcelona]

I just find it very funny how Tyra claims she went through “hair hell“. She comes on the show and always talks about the horrible and negative things she went through in the modeling industry that traumatized her, then uses this platform to put the models through the same traumatic events instead of creating moments of teaching.

[@jordanmeyerl4380]

She’s always going on about how ANTM is revolutionary and bringing change to the industry, but it’s just recreating the same toxic environments and cycles. Only difference is it’s on television so we also internalize it and it warps our understanding of modeling. That’s why I love Jessica, she really breaks through the bullshit and shows us that hey, this isn’t the way it is or should be. She’s actually bringing about change.

[@nikimd7833]

I also find it interesting that she included Afros and dreadlocks in “hair hell.” What’s hellish about an afro?

[@bernicesmith1173]

💯💯👍🏾👍🏾

[@arlenemccray6082]

@@nikimd7833 I agree

[@Pikapichuu]

She is literally the definition of a "If I had to suffer, so do you!" person

[@zarahilluminate]

“As an African American woman your skin should be like butta” WTF?!?! Like what? And coming from a light skinned woman to a dark skinned woman that ish was crazy for her to say. Any one of any race and ethnicity can have skin issues or idk less than “perfect” skin. What a terrible expectation for her to place on someone

[@ceceytell5325]

Right?? I've never been the person to say "why do you have to bring race into this?" but in this case?? isn't the ideal to have smooth skin, no matter the color? Also there was nothing wrong with her skin!!

[@violetsanddragons]

No one's skin looks like that people wear makeup. Tyra was wearing foundation and concealer in the scene.

[@bernicesmith1173]

🤮

[@nikimd7833]

That was unbelievable to me. Like, wow, Tyra, you actually felt comfortable saying that on television?! Also…Ebony’s skin looks fine and I have a 4K TV.

[@HaintblueRee]

Exactly! I'm black, both my parents have fairly flawless skin and my skin is not "like butta" unless if by "like butta," you mean I rubbed margarine or Country Crock all over my face😂😂😂😂

[@briannamaniac]

"As an African American woman, your skin should be like butter" Wtf, black people get skin problems too. Who tf does she think she is? A dermatologist?

[@visualbeauty3427]

She's not a skin doctor! Tbh

[@odierox123]

That bothered me too. She completely set a beauty standard for women of color and I could see that causing serious issues.

[@sebumpostmortem]

Definitely Tyra is not a trychologist🤭

[@DontShineForSwine]

Tyra thinks she's everything. Not just a dermatologist, a flight attendant, making iPhones in Chinese sweat shops for 10cents an hour, a sewage cleaner... you get the idea. She literally thinks she's a goddess and everyone should bow down to her because "she's been through it all." *insert the biggest fcking eyeroll ever*

[@triplehearts914]

LITERALLY LOL ive had skin problems since like near birth idk what her deal is

[@MushuWindy]

The thing is... Ebony's skin doesn't seem to be textured, like, AT ALL. Also, around this time, makeup still didn't cater to darker skin tones. The replication looked better than any other model there, but since it was on darker skin, it may not have shown up as pigmented. All that to say, I'm glad we're finally calling out Tyra and this show.

[@bibitch]

This! There was nothing wrong with her skin. No blemish, no scar, nothing. I feel like they just made this up to get in her head bc they wanted her gone (bc she's a lesbian oh noes).

[@sonorasgirl]

Yeah!!! I kept being like…wtf do you mean skin texture. Her skin is GORGEOUS. And her makeup was beautiful! My sister is a makeup artist and said the same

[@bernicesmith1173]

Won't do any good!!🤗🤷🏾

[@soulangel835a]

Her skin looks smooth, what was Tyra looking at and Giselle tried to shade Ebony about her skin on the low

[@nikimd7833]

Yeah Jay’s comment was so stupid. The makeup was obviously there and not formulated for someone with Ebony’s complexion. How is that Ebony’s fault? This show aged like milk smh

[@laurenleeonethree]

I just LOVE how Tyra experienced racism, bullying, colorism, body-shaming, etc. in the industry for the majority of her life, yet she decides to treat these young ladies the exact same way. Ebony is beautiful and her skin is fabulous. Watching this when I was a teenager made it to where I thought it was acceptable to behave this way in the industry.

[@kenziej4301]

It’s giving very , if I had to go through it you have to go through it even worst!

[@cbounds3265]

She thinks that because it made her better, that it will do the same for them. A little backwards but thats how many in that generation think

[@AS-wj1du]

I think she was jealous and wanted to make them suffer to succeed. Most of these people don't want them to succeed

[@shellwilliams6306]

Racism seems to be the 'go to' when you can't find fault with PERFECTION...at least in this single scenario.... Tyra... really 🤔

[@laurenleeonethree]

@@shellwilliams6306 There's absolutely no such thing as perfection 🤨

[@qorv4973]

They LITERALLY had the girls without access to proper beauty products, expose then to all kinds of makeup, have them in extreme sleep deprivation and stress and have the audacity to criticize a girl for having a skin problem. Ma'am you caused the problem. There is no way this didnt hurt Ebony's career post Antm.

[@kelsey2333]

I actually read in another comment that ebony said in an oliver twixst interview that antm REALLY hurt her career

[@qorv4973]

​@@kelsey2333 I try to avoid mentioning Oliver's videos since Jessica reacts to different seasons and I dont want to "taint" the perspective. (If that makes sense) she has also done interviews herself. Ebony was portrayed in a negative light, and it really did hurt her, but it is great to see her thriving.

[@nataliewood3124]

Try hurting the career of these narrow minded high profile models and photographers and leaders and bosses who cause Trauma and depression from there ignorance and hurtful comments. There are hidden Racism and Racist in every industry. CANCEL TYRA & CANCEL THE PHOTOGRAPHER SHAME SHAME SHAME ON THEM 😭🙄😭

[@qorv4973]

@@nataliewood3124 cancelling silves nothing. They already have their following and have had careers for decades. Instead of cancelling celebrities, bring awareness. Tyra probably never realized how problematic her choices, or show could be. She never had a platform that could change the core of the industry, so she had to perpetuate some of the core problems of the shallow modeling world. At this point, whatever harm that was done was done. Likewise, she helped many aspiring models/actresses. Learning experience for everyone.

[@moonbunnygw8342]

Wasn't her face also burned from an unsuccessful attempt at curling her hair?

[@amb817]

It’s been 19 years since this cycle, and I still don’t understand why they said Ebony had bad textured skin. I didn’t see anything wrong with her skin

[@L.Spencer]

I wonder where she is now, and what she might have to say about that critique. edit: found an interview where she tells what happened

[@pandorasrevelations9873]

@@L.Spencer and?

[@laboy14]

And there was that part where they couldn’t find PROPER clippers to shave Ebony’s head 🤔

[@CynthiaEwersCobb]

Just whack make up which is the makeup artists fault not the models fault her skin is great 😊

[@fortheladies771]

@@L.Spencer Can you send the link to the interview?

[@reneepogue2188]

Also, regarding Adrienne, they told her that if she didn't show up to judging she'd be eliminated, then Tyra had the audacity to tell her she needed to learn to put her health first. Just absolute gaslighting and abusive.

[@erinpilla]

And in future seasons the narrative went in many different ways LOL

[@laraabiona903]

And earlier in the episode, Nicole turned down going to a challenge win because she wasn't feeling well and Jay went on this shaming rant. It was disgusting but I was proud of Nicole for standing her ground. Nevertheless, it looks like the show wanted to juxtapose that with Adrienne the trooper and make an example of Nicole by eliminating her.

[@murieloduro1274]

🤣🤣🤣

[@jenniferwilliams5478]

Yet 2 girls didn't do the naked photo shoot and one of those girls was the runner up

[@falconinthedive]

The thing that bothers me of their critique of Ebony is like. That is revlon makeup in the early 00s. There is no way revlon had near the pigment necessary for it to show up to that degree on her skin tone. And you know as hell Tyra didn't do that look with Revlon.

[@cenaentiffanys]

@justalegend like your Alex

[@derrickmoses4221]

@justalegend learn English

[@Sherry2314]

Snake expert here- if you have a fear of snakes thrusting someone into a situation like this isn't gonna help them. Introducing people to baby or juvenile snakes is the way to go. If you absolutely must introduce them to an adult, ball pythons only. They have sweet puppy faces and next to 0 bite aggression. Most owners actually struggle feeding them for that very reason. Also sanitizing before and after handling snakes is crucial for both your and the snakes health

[@ArmednotTriggered]

I would say a lot of owners struggle to feed them due to husbandry issues. I tend to refrain from showing baby snakes though. Just my personal experience. Baby snakes are a little darty and fast moving, depending on species, which can make people nervous. I tend to go for rosy boas or ball pythons because they both really docile. Honestly, my hognose is less likely to bite than anything else I've ever kept -- he's not head shy either, but they're ridiculous creatures who only eat when they feel like it and the mock striking scares people. I get it. Overall, I wholeheartedly with you. This isn't how you introduce people to snakes the right way. ANTM just doesn't care about that. They'd rather traumatize and break those girls.

[@rosenrot234]

Ball pythons just have that "No thoughts. Head empty" expression on their faces lol

[@calliemyersbuchanan6458]

Also forcing snakes onto people who are deathly afraid of them can lead to mishandling and stress for the poor creature! Just look at how that model reacted to that thing she though was a snake! She violently tore herself away and freaked out! Imagine if that was the snake on her! The poor baby could have been hurt in the shuffle or at the very least distressed.......Not humane! Would you hand your human infant to someone who hates or has a fear of babies? I mean jeez!

[@heatherduke5410]

Yeah, I love snakes and I just feel bad for the girls who had fear of snakes and the snakes themselves. it really doesn't seem good for either of them.

[@myachowdhury9965]

would you call yourself a snekspert

[@sasuxsakuxfan]

Tyra seems to always lash out with other black models. It's so strange. Even in this video when Kim mentioned that model is beautiful, Tyra immediately broke that compliment off her face. So unnecessary

[@elisejackson2854]

She’s colourist and hates when black women are confident.

[@inkaacrowe8429]

She is paid well to be horrible like a gate keeper to her masters to keep a dreadful narrative alive.

[@DancingDeity]

I wonder if Tyra has this complex because of Naomi Campbell..

[@asideofaioli4630]

@@DancingDeity I think Tyra is a narcissist and has always been the "victim" in the story of her life. Naomi was guilty of some things, but Tyra is the type of person who takes no accountability for her part. You could tell on that episode of Tyra's old talk show that she wanted Naomi to bleed for something that happened a million years ago. And she wanted complete submission...Naomi seemed to be coming from a genuine place, but it wasn't enough for dear Tyra. She's a brat.

[@AS-wj1du]

@@asideofaioli4630 Narcissism is right. Naomi might have a reputation but Tyra has proven she's nasty and vicious so is no better. Is she married yet?

[@hexmaniacciaran]

"retouching is expensive" yeah and so is an entire campaign - if they can afford 6 figures to run a national campaign they can spare a bit for a "perfect" final product

[@WitchyWhispersASMR]

I feel like this was just an excuse to be colorist towards her tbh

[@foxtrot685]

They’re paying for retouching anyway. It’s not like they are just going to take the pictures straight from camera and put them on the billboard 😂😂 and she wouldn’t need like 8 days of retouching exclusively lol I dunno why he made such a big deal

[@roll3886]

Honestly for as crap as the retouching even is in some of these photos, they have no right to complain about the end product. Oh yeah the retouching is hard? That’s a you problem, don’t pin it on the model

[@roll3886]

@justalegend makeup companies like that are literally BILLION dollar companies. They're not poor. They can certainly afford to spend money on their campaigns including retouching. Stop acting like these big makeup brands like Covergirl and L'Oreal are little small startup companies

[@lilw5653]

Exactly! And they are already paying for someone to retouch the photos (watch any before and after vids they get retouched a lot) just because they couldn’t find a good one is not the models problem

[@laurenroseanne8205]

love how he says 'retouching is expensive' like he doesn't retouch every single one of his clients photos... I think he couldn't be bothered to adjust the settings to compliment her darker skin tone. Her skin is flawless.

[@jimmypikachuchoi]

in Ebony's Twixtclusive, she talks ab how that comment made it super difficult for her to find modelling work. Also the producers/wranglers failed to get Ebony the skin care products that she wanted. They did Ebony dirty. She should have been top 3.

[@kelsey2333]

And the way Robin and the other girls treated her for being a lesbian. And the show allowed that to happen

[@Rosemarie-YouTube-]

Why did a comment made about "her skin tone/skin color has to be a special specifically certain way exactly, just because she has a darker skin tone" according to Tyra on a reality show cause real world problems for her? Anyone listening to that line clearly knows is both stereotyping, colorist & featuring, all of which are awful & taking anything seriously when said like that is just dumb on the believers part.... Who on earth would really consider cause Tyra said black people have to have certain traits, that obviously has to be true? How can anyone have an opinion about someone's skin texture not being butter, & just automatically believe it to be true when it's definitely objective & not factually proven?? Besides, to me meaning greasy, kinda sweaty & moist looking & more un-naturally jaundiced than the Simpsons is what I think when hearing someone's skin is like butter. Idk what it means or why that's a compliment at all honestly.... I don't think smooth or anything else good .... Or is that just me?

[@ILuvAyeAye]

​@@Rosemarie-KZbin- So, obviously, the beauty industry is very based on looks. Tyrah was essentially accusing her of having dry skin that negatively affects how she is photographed, and how makeup looks on her. Even if that's not true, if that's the first thing a makeup brand or skincare brand hears about you, they might not be interested in working with you. Some of that is super irrational, but the rational part is that even if Ebony sent in a gorgeous photograph with an application, people looking at applications know that photos can be touched up. They might trust a so called expert like Tyrah, who has seen Ebony in person, than what they're seeing with their own eyes in a photo. So it's sad, but I can see how that comment could have affected her career.

[@caitlinhogan5258]

@@ILuvAyeAye Yep. Also even if they know that Tyra’s full of sh1t, they might worry about the public perception of Ebony. Most brands are very risk adverse. They’re less likely to book a model who even a small amount of people, even subconsciously, might associate with “bad skin” when they could just get someone else and not put off those potential customers.

[@BUIjee-BUItifullyNailed]

When they said we have a special guest - and Jess said it's probably Tyra but instead they brought out snakes I was thinking "close enough" 🤣🤣

[@mandapanda243]

Lmaoooo yoooo

[@beautifulqueen2579]

So it was Tyra 🐍

[@HaitianBlackGinger11]

😂😂😂😂

[@OoMASEoO]

The judges are always like "this is how the industry is" whole time they're the ones perpetuating it in the industry!

[@WitchyWhispersASMR]

I’m getting very strong colorism from this. Especially from Janice and Tyra! I feel like Ebony’s skin was just as clear as the other models. Maybe they had “trouble” retouching her skin because they’re not used to working with darker skin tones? (Idk how retouching is done just a thought) Also her makeup was so on point! Obviously it’s gonna look different on a darker skin tone! just wtf?!

[@THEMODELGENE]

My thoughts exactly, you cannot apply the same lighting strategy for shooting someone like Elyse as you do Ebony.

[@falconinthedive]

They did that in season 3 with Yaya too, singling her out when everyone had problems in that unrealistic no makeup beauty shoot

[@mycatisjudgingyou]

I think it's that and they just wanted to tear her down and had nothing else to criticize her about. She's beautiful and her portfolio was amazing so I think they had to do something to make her insecure

[@TheLovesnowangel]

This show was every ism in the book. Can’t believe I use to love it.

[@WitchyWhispersASMR]

@@DiezDedosDown ah ok! Thanks for the insight. I didn’t even think about the lighting! I honestly don’t know much about this industry

[@biologynerd3]

I could actually see the one model having a snake being seen as a benefit by production. Sets up the whole dynamic of “So and so isn’t scared, why are you???” so much better.

[@roll3886]

Yup for sure

[@monie430]

Most definitely. Especially because Adrienne ends up winning the season. I can see them setting her up for success.

[@heatherduke5410]

It's so weird because I love snakes, but I understand some people don't. Some people are scared of him. Spiders freak me out. I know that logically, they won't hurt me. I can't help it though. And I remember them having spiders and hissing cockroaches in photoshoots on ANTM too.

[@bettysmith4666]

Ebony was treated horribly this entire season. She is such a drop dead beautiful woman! 💞

[@4pplesl1ces12]

She was my favorite. When I watched episode one, I thought she was gonna win.

[@4pplesl1ces12]

Also the other models ganged up on her alot and really made her out to be mean and angry.

[@sonorasgirl]

She was also so poised during the critique! Not that she should have to be, AT ALL, but she just responded better than most people would have.

[@Lars1996]

It’s a matter of taste. Elise was the only one that looked like a model.

[@alexa42490]

@@4pplesl1ces12 The mad "strong Black woman" trope. This was also a tactic ANTM did on Camille in Cycle 2.

[@ArtemisPearl]

My photography professor would rip this photographer apart 😂 it's literally every first year mistake especially blaming your bad lighting and photography decisions on the model. As he would say 'one epic F for you!'

[@skyer0blue]

As someone who has suffered acne since I was 13 (I'm now mid 20s), it really rubs me the wrong way when people make comments about other people's skin. I was lucky enough to be able to see a dermatologist and things improved from there, but not everyone has that luxury. Can we make clear skin privilege a thing?

[@Shirumoon]

I'm so on board with that! I've also been struggling with skin issues for more than half of my life and it only got better because of maybe time and luck and me spending so much time online researching for products that may or may not help me. It was so exhausting and expensive to get my skin to where it's at right now and it is still far from perfect. I feel so sorry for my teenage self who was told her skin was ugly and dirty.

[@melodyvalentine8779]

I feel for you, but what do you mean by clear skin privilege? What sort of privilege do we get? It's getting silly now, first it was just what it means, rich with more opportunities than the average person. Now it's white, male, straight, light skin, pretty, skinny, and now clear skin? 😂 Can people not have ANY good qualities about their appearance without it being some sort of privilege?

[@Piecesoftheshadow]

@@melodyvalentine8779 It IS a privilege to be able to afford help for bad skin because most the time insurance doesn't cover it. So it can be insanely expensive and most cannot afford it.

[@ILuvAyeAye]

​@@melodyvalentine8779 If society considers qualities about your appearance good, that does provide certain privileges. That doesn't mean you're a bad person, or that it's a bad trait. But the world looks at someone who fits certain beauty norms a little differently than the look at someone who doesn't, and it adds up. That said, as someone with acne scarring myself, I don't actually want the privilege of getting to be a model, I'll pass on that one. But there are other subtler things - whether you're viewed as attractive, whether you're viewed as dirty, etc. I would never try to compare having acne scars to being a person of color or a person in poverty though. At least personally, I know having acne scars hasn't affected my life to that same extent. That doesn't mean it should be ignored, I'm just saying, I know there is a difference.

[@violetevergarden9841]

@@melodyvalentine8779 The privilege legit is "being treated with basic respect". Going out with acne, or scars from it sometimes means people are going to point at you and tell their kids "this is what you'll look like if you keep touching your skin" or having random people with clear skin or acne say stuff like "eek, did you see that person? Their skin is so ugly and oddly pigmented". I don't even have that much of an issue but continuously hearing those things made me obsess over my skin to the point I was so absolutely terrified of leaving my house. Whenever I went outside I'd do anything possible to hide as much of my skin as possible. Nowadays I feel extremely upset when anyone tells young impressionable people that they should feel ashamed of their body, because it's a comment that doesn't help anyone. Anyways, it's sad that we find it so hard to treat each other decently.

[@walle5667]

This skin bs really is a problem. I've heard everything in my life. "You really love chocolate, don't you?" "You should eat less pizza." Meanwhile I hadn't touched any junk food or sweets IN YEARS. Didn't make a difference. Literally nothing helped. Now I'm good, I can eat as much chocolate or junk food as I please and nothing happens to my skin. Clear as a sunny day. Hormones are no joke.

[@90sDRgirl]

"Being an African American women your skin should be like butter" ...the damage that this women has done over the years. Also like how they added this horrible texture glitter on Giselle..why

[@tijeraslack3]

I thought the same about glitter. It was too much texture, but they are worried about Ebony….hhhmmmm….

[@PhoenyxV]

Maybe it's the early 2000s showing but Nicole's picture really, REALLY looks like a Desperate Housewives promotional still to me. Maybe it's the combination of lip color and the amount of volume they gave her hair? Also I will forever love the amount of irreverence that Adrianne approached being on this show with. That sort of attitude (especially from the winner!) would absolutely never fly in later seasons, she would have been booted for "not wanting it enough" as soon as she said that line about the Hamburgler, even though it was hilarious.

[@yanetybanez3301]

I can’t lie I love me some Desperate Housewives! 😂

[@Shrimpyyyyyyyy]

So true, but also classic beauty vibes, like a 50s movie star!

[@kit922]

Bet you $2 that he said "the only issue with Ebony was the lighting on her skin. We really should've readjusted the lights. You can fake it with retouching but, that's expensive for something we could've avoided" and it turned into "the issue was Ebony's skin"

[@L.Spencer]

If they're going to shame her for her skin, they should at least show us what they mean. Before and after retouching.

[@keedybaby9243]

Right! That comment pissed me off! Her skin looked flawless too me and he didn’t take great pictures! Head cut off, background wasn’t complimenting the snakes colors at all. I’m not professional but, if he needed to retouch , I know damn well the show could afford it!

[@erinnicole3170]

Yes, and Tyra was standing right next to him when he was talking about her, I'm sure feeding him what to say

[@hazelangus]

That could easily have happened, absolutely. This show was a really bad offender when it came to cutting out parts of sentences, or even saying they'd said something completely different, because they overdubbed it after the fact. So Tyra might have seemed like she said something to the women in the judging room, when she actually recorded it at a different time and in a different place. You could sometimes really tell - the room tone was different. Like the difference between recorded in a bathroom or a bedroom - you can tell one has a lot more reverberation (or whatever the techie term is!)

[@mystic_mimi21]

Yeah it read as “ if she didn’t have dark skin or was that race , we wouldn’t have a problem, why can’t she be like the white models aka this so why dark women shouldn’t model” he is creating problems and excuses for his racism and colourism

[@simpleplanfan011]

Tyra used her power as a black woman to put down other black women and that’s honestly very disappointing.

[@conciseyoga]

THIS!

[@abi21891]

I was actually really impressed with the way they handled the snakes in this shoot (from what we saw). The snakes looked pretty chill; when their tongues flick, it usually means they’re curious and inquisitive of their surroundings and not too stressed.

[@welicatiga]

I bet you if it was spiders it would have been a different story.

[@thejaguarback]

it looks like most of the girls were calm, that probably helped. they're some awful cutie pie snakes, i get why people are scared, but once you get used to them, they're pretty adorable

[@abi21891]

@@thejaguarback Oh for sure. I have pet snakes and I think they're adorable, but before I had them I might have been just a little hesitant!

[@coquettebunniex]

@welicatiga spiders are worse

[@AS-wj1du]

@@coquettebunniex Nope. Those things are nasty

[@hiitskaitlyn]

The weird cropping, saturation of the photos cheapened the whole thing. Also the comments! Tyra has some nerve.. shes so toxic.

[@falconinthedive]

The hypersaturation thing was very early 00s though I feel. Like everyone discovered you could color and curve correct in photoshop and went ham.

[@diannabrutsman5271]

I agree, the cropping was so annoying! It's a beauty shot and yet they cut off everybody's heads!

[@danakscully64]

Rumor has it that to this day, Giselle is still finding glitter stuck to her body.

[@themollymelon]

lmao!!

[@mechengr1731]

And poor Adrienne had to clean it up off the floor and the room

[@theTruthSeekerishere]

I remember this episode with clarity, I'm glad people are calling Tyra out finally after so many years. ❤ your videos and positivity

[@StarWarsThrowbacks]

Does Tyra think black women don’t have acne or textured skin? Wow….

[@ThisIsNuckingFuts]

Tyra thinks black women aren’t allowed to be human

[@welicatiga]

Right? I wish my skin was clear rn, but I couldn't imagine the struggle it was to have clear skin back then with less options.

[@ThisIsNuckingFuts]

@@welicatiga yeah and on tv? Tyra really goes for the jugular on the darker girls and it’s her problem not theirs! Now you have a good day

[@felixcastillo7336]

@@ThisIsNuckingFuts because the fashion industry is like that. Tyra has internalized these rules. Black models needed to be perfect in order to make it. She was just sharing her knowledge to the new model… sad but Tyra is not the one to blame

[@ThisIsNuckingFuts]

@@felixcastillo7336 even taking your comment into account (which I do agree with) tyra is still to blame.

[@laraonfire9797]

I feel like with Tyra, that she is that type of person that if she had to go through hell to get something, she thinks that everyone else should go through the same experience or worse. If things are easier for that person she gets jealous instead of being happy that the industry is changing for the better. She’s that kind of friend that as long as you are worse off than her, she will be happy.

[@inkaacrowe8429]

Well put

[@sra9842]

The last line of your comment was reallll...i hate tyra because of that..appearing as a caring sister but came out as nasty witch..

[@pollypocket2282]

I remember the impact ANTM had on me when I was younger… I was young and in shape, yet this show kept telling me I was too fat and warped my body image, that maybe I wasn’t pretty enough. If we only knew just how toxic this would become… that it was allowed and praised. And Tyra… SMH she really needs to have a come to Jesus moment in the mirror. I hope someday she really looks inward and takes accountability. Also, thank you for letting me know about @sundailove channel. It is part of my daily life, her vlogging style is so beautiful and calming, and her personality is off the chart!!!

[@helleswahn]

Same. It made me feel too fat for modeling (which was my dream) and I was underweight 😅

[@Yikkoofficial]

Not just weight but also height. The show made us petite girls seem like we had no chance in modeling or fashion. My model friends have taught me you don’t have to be 6’0 to venture in photoshoot and have fun!

[@visualbeauty3427]

@@Yikkoofficial yes pretty example Kate Moss, Twiggy & Jamie Richar when she became most bookable at that time back then.

[@visualbeauty3427]

@venswim Or maybe Tyra's following the trends?

[@CarboneCat]

@@Yikkoofficial before the 2010’s, if you were shorter than 5’10” forget about modeling. It was an extremely toxic industry and its toxicity was widely accepted back then. I’m glad that the barriers are breaking up and that the toxicity is denounced. There’s still a way to go but, at least, more and more elements of the industry act upon.

[@heathermcfarland6317]

I am telling y’all, they ask the girls what their biggest fears are during casting and then they find a way to exploit that fear for ratings

[@inkaacrowe8429]

I believe u. Horrid people !

[@kenziej4301]

😫😩

[@tb1235]

And an easy excuse to eliminate.

[@KMPA531]

Ebony said in her interview with Oliver , Janice turned her chair around and refused to degrade a woman of colors skin and she refused to do it. Major props to Janice. She said everyone else went in on her skin.

[@skyer0blue]

Also, as a side note, I used to be a lifeguard and swim teacher. If I went on this show I would 100% just lie and tell them my biggest fear is open or deep water just to mess with them xD

[@pillowlustt]

As a person who has cystic acne, flare ups and textured scars, I would give so much to have a skin like Ebony.. what a ridiculous thing to say that she has "skin problems". They have never seen problematic skin in their lives and it shows.*facepalm*

[@laraabiona903]

They also spent the whole season saying how "plus-sized" Robin was. Like where?!?!

[@alexa42490]

🤦🏿‍♀️😑

[@cassandra.wladyslava]

Speaking as someone who used to raise chickens, when they told that one girl to pretend/look like she was a bird that had just popped out of an egg my first thought was, “Sooo…look super exhausted after having just spent the past 20 hours breaking out of a confined space?” I’m sure the snake wranglers (or snanglers) made sure the snakes were ok. They probably just thought of the models as weird, fleshy trees.

[@rebecc339]

Besides them not having proper beauty products for their skin, lets not forget these women were subject to stress, not eating properly, no sleep, etc. All things that can affect a person’s skin.

[@foxtrot685]

Tyra: not just anyone can do a beauty shot… Jessica: all you need is a 100mm lens 😒… 😂😂😂

[@derp_dragons]

I'm glad they handled the snakes with care - a scared person is not the savest place for a snake. I'd never put a snake on someone who's scared of them. It's not helping a person who's scared. Instead, usually, if people are given the chance to interact with a snake on their own terms, they'll get curious about them. In this setting however, since most of the girls had to wait around anyway, I'd have started with the girl who has a pet snake and follow up with those who are comfortable with the idea of having a snake on them. The others should have gotten introduced to the snakes in the meantime. See how the skin of a living snake feels, that it moves slowly if you move slowly, that it poses no threat. I bet it would have made the models feel more comfortable and a bit more secure. All in all, this shoot wasn't handled terribly, imo (which was a surprise, not gonna lie).

[@russellmo94]

agreed! i’m happy the handlers and models didn’t let the show’s drama get in the way of the snakes safety, but more should’ve been done to ensure that the models weren’t scared

[@adqueen2548]

My mum was terrified of snakes. My friend has a pet snake named Spot who is the sweetest little guy. She told my mum to just gently pet him. Took my mum a while, my friend was holding him the entire time, keeping him calm and Spot was so gentle and patient. When mum finally let him touch her with his tongue and give him a slow pet on his head, she relaxed and so did my friend and Spot. Mum still doesn't like snakes, but when she comes to pick me up from my friend she always pets Spot and he gets really happy to see her

[@ajd8558]

I don't know why people still get surprised by this kind of thing - from what we've seen over the years, Tyra is really not a very nice person. She's downright cruel to a lot of these models when she's supposed to be mentoring and helping them.

[@symonew33]

I’m convinced that someone getting a good to great photo on this show is a fluke. Ever photos set seems designed to please Tyra’s need to be the mean girl/ head girl in charge she couldn’t be in high school.

[@kenziej4301]

My favorite cycle is 9. Every woman looked top model. The only season of all where casting strived to deliver its premise. Except Tyra pre selected Saleisha who always looked like this - 😐

[@asideofaioli4630]

I fully agree

[@Lila_Moon]

Why would they choose that background color for Ebony's photo? There was no contrast, they did her so dirty. 😭

[@AngelicaAgelviz]

i actually adored the bg color for her picture😭 the earthy tones really complimented her creamy skin and the terracota color of the snake💜 both models stood out. they just did her dirty with the uncalled for skin comments😤

[@jaydamay6815]

what’s so funny is Tyra tries to reinforce this attitude of “it’s not about your looks , it’s about what you do w/your looks” yet she skin shamed Ebony & Yaya throughout the entirety of the competition-

[@alisontownson]

You should react to Australia’s Next Top Model season 4 episode 3. The judges give the girls a posing challenge designed around each model’s specific fear, and they had to do it in front of an audience and several media outlets. Some of them had panic attacks beforehand. It was really messed up!

[@JessicaKobeissi]

Australia's Next Top Model?! I'll take a look!!

[@jordanmeyerl4380]

Tyra’s always going on about how ANTM is revolutionary and bringing change to the industry, but it’s just recreating the same toxic environments and cycles. Only difference is it’s on television so we also internalize it and it warps our understanding of the industry. That’s why I love Jessica, she really breaks through the bullshit and shows us that hey, this isn’t the way it is or should be. She’s actually bringing about change.

[@barbieblues7639]

Really? Prove to me this girl has single handedly changed the fashion/modelling industry. 😂

[@amandaeskew415]

No matter how serious something is, Robyn saying "get him" & "OH jesus" always cracks me up. I'm also terrified of them things so I would have straight up WALKED OUT if I was there. Ebony looks amazing. Always thought she was one of the most beautiful.

[@titemartiniquaise]

"it looks nothing like the original" No you're makeup isn't pigmented enough to show up on darker skin, but what's new😑

[@KelliConan]

They should've said what they meant. They thought that she was too dark to be able to see the recreation of the makeup and that it was too dark for the retouching. Though she doesn't have need for retouching anyway. The photographer just needed to take a good photo of her. She's the only dark skinned person and they bring up "skin texture". We all know it's about how dark she is. She looks like she has the smoothest skin texture. Even though Tyra mentioned that the color is beautiful. I don't believe her when she said that. She was just trying to cover her and everyone else’s butts from having people say they mean that she's too dark. We're still gonna believe that 'cause the texture thing doesn't make any sense.

[@syedmazharhasan6803]

16:10 So here is the tea. Adrienne has told on a chat with Shannon (they are best friends) that they were fed raw chicken on the snake shoot that day, and she got food poisoning from it. This show just s*cks.

[@michelledawn7446]

And Tyra had the audacity to say that Adrienne would be eliminated if she didn't show up to judging.

[@michelledawn7446]

Tyra said it wouldn't be fair to the other girls if Adrienne didn't show up and they kept her. That doesn't make sense because all she would be missing is some irrelevant makeup challenge..she still had a photo they could judge. Why couldn't she be resting in the back and taking care of her health? And then on later seasons Tyra makes a claim about how the health of the girls is top priority. She has proven many times that that is not the case.

[@rucianapollard7098]

Why would they eat raw chicken?? Just refuse to eat it!!

[@syedmazharhasan6803]

@@rucianapollard7098 They did not know that it was raw, it was uncooked from inside. Moreover, they starve contestants for days.

[@rucianapollard7098]

@@syedmazharhasan6803 wow, I didn't know that!!

[@tommi_sharp]

I watched this show as a teenager and I already felt like crap about my skin texture and what they said on the show definitely helped fuel that self hatred. Ugh makes me so mad thinking about it!

[@impposter560]

Her skin is smoother than mine was at 10 years old. She looked amazing! (Also, those snakes were so cute and happy looking, I want to pet them so bad)

[@marymewskers2477]

When he was talking about her skin, I saw a luscious dark espresso color that looked rich against the rusty orange, white, and black from the snake. One of my best friends in high school has her gorg skin tone. While we both had acne, I was pasty white with a genetic condition that messed with skin (saying I get skin insecurities), she had to battle racial stigmatization for being that dark, especially where we grew up. I think I started tuning out around this episode because the entire idea was absurd. Welcome to the 2000's as an emerging young adult!

[@foxtrot685]

The best part of this season was when Robin was giving that prayer and Ebony looked into the camera like gurl please 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀💀💀 I still use that gif til this day lmao

[@IWillBeHers]

“All of those things that are of demonic presence” Ebony: 🙄

[@-D3m0nikaSpirit-]

The fact that Tyra doesn't understand the concept of a Phobia and that 'no you can't just turn that intense fear off just so you can take a photo' ...like gurl...

[@Academiacaramelcurlz]

“If I see another pore, idk!” 🤣🤣🤣🤣 ahaha! As a Black woman, I can say there is this expectation to have super smooth skin. The woman with the supposed texture issue which I didn’t see, had dark brown skin so I guess Tyra was essentially saying her skin wasn’t perfect enough for a dark skinned black woman. And a lot of really dark skinned black women do have really smooth skin, but not ALL black woman have “buttah” skin! 🙄🙄 And her skin was very smooth! Idk what she saw!!!

[@mya1207]

Tyra is just obsessed with tearing down other black women that’s really it 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@inkaacrowe8429]

Look what she tried to do to Naomi But Naomi shut her down though!

[@BaileyBlurbs]

Did anyone catch Janice shading Tyra and playing an imaginary violin while Tyra talks about her negative modeling experiences?

[@credendovides20]

About the "Dead Eye" thing: I have no idea what she means by it, but she always says this about girls with dark eyes. It never happens with light eyes, sooooo a weird colorism issue?

[@LoXena]

The fact that she said "as a black woman our skin SHOULD be like butter", what is that supposed to mean?? Black , dark complexion can have acne, hyperpigmentation, seborheic dermatitis, psoriasis, keratosis like everyone else...

[@Creepystalker102]

Exactly what I was thinking, like why does she think your ethnicity controls your skin texture? Or does she mean it in a racist way, as in, to make up for your skin being black, it should at least be 100% flawless

[@HellsFurby]

I just clicked on here and I’m already afraid from the thumbnail what Tyra is up to this time. She really treated these people so badly most of the time and I didn’t notice when I was younger and now it’s like WOW you should not be treated like this ever from anywhere or anyone.

[@sarakjeldsen769]

Your reactions are everything. XD I agree that whole "dead eyes" thing is more of a projection. I've been told my stare looks blank when I've got the strongest emotions and thoughts swirling behind them. It feels more like gaslighting than anything.

[@visualbeauty3427]

Maybe a beauty dish or i would say the catch light but they need something more drama the eyes.

[@HolandaChiquita]

Not a snake expert, but I worked with a few different snakes for about 6 months. We would show them to visitors in a petting zoo and occasionally bring them to kindergartens and schools. I got very used to having one around my neck for hours. You tend to get to know them, their behaviour and more or less how they feel. I think they really notice when people are scared or nervous. They prefer to be around calm people. And they need breaks from time to time. I never was scared of them. I got only bitten once, but that was completely my mistake. I wasn't paying attention and made a stupid obvious mistake. The snake just thought my finger was a second snack. With the help of a colleague we got the fangs out slowly and the snake and I were fine. I didn't touch that particular snake for a week or two after. but then got my confidence back again.

[@inkaacrowe8429]

Wow!

[@Robin-ladybug]

I remember watching this show growing up and having acne. Seeing Tyra criticize Ebony’s seemingly beautiful skin must have made me feel so much worse about mine.

[@BelleLeilaNoir]

And that's what's crazy cus she kept getting at models talking about yall need to represent cus there's young girls watching meanwhile she never checked herself

[@erinpilla]

Ebony revealed in her Oliver Twixt interview that Janice actually stood up for her. When they began dissing Ebony's skin texture, Janice said I won't have any of this and turned her chair back. I think Janice, being told she was "ethnic", would have had an affinity for Ebony. She had an Ebony knockoff ar JDMA. OH MY GOSH you should have included the Jay Manuel and Nicole fight. I wanna know what you think of it, if Nicole was in the right?

[@AnniCarlsson]

Wow. Janice did that? Didn't know she had that in her from what we saw rest off the time.

[@erinpilla]

@@AnniCarlsson You have to watch Ebony's Oliver Twixt interview.

[@qorv4973]

It could also come across as colorist since Ebony had darker skin... so problematic.

[@ashante190]

You can tell that at least in the first season, she's taking a lot of inspiration from her 90s experience. Much different to now, but many models in the 80s and 90s had to do their own makeup for runways (not photoshoots). Tyra has mentioned how she learned to do her makeup before a show by watching Yasmeen Ghauri. While the legend Iman said how she would do other black models makeup before runway. So I'm assuming that's where the challenge/test idea came from.

[@sebumpostmortem]

Wow, all my life being a MUA and I was today years old when I discovered that the african ethnicity is inmune to any kind of acne or skin disfunction. I won' t recommend a derm to my caucasian customers with skin issues anymore but a genetics engineering lab so they can be modified and mutate their DNA. Just a few haplotip replacement and, ta-daaaah!!!✨ Thank you, Tyra 🤦🏻‍♀️...

[@ckilbarger01]

During make-overs they consistently did things that made the models uncomfortable. That's probably what happened to provoke the model who was called a diva-in-a-bad-way to do or say whatever it was that got her the diva label

[@origamipein18]

Ebony's skin looked fine! Tyra's out of her damn mind!

[@emilyesnyman]

As someone with a literal fear of glitter, I agree with Jessica! I don't care how many snakes you put on me, HOW WILL I GET THE GLITTER OFF?

[@maggiebeth5442]

Robyn should have been right at home with reptiles, given her coldness and lack of empathy. At least reptiles aren't judgemental and don't use religion as a weapon to try and control people. The snake was waaaay more beautiful than she is IMO 😛😛🐍🐍

[@michelledawn7446]

As someone who believes in God and was raised Christian, she didn't represent us well at all. She's the only one who didn't want to meet Eboni's girlfriend. Shannon even went out to meet her but they edited it out.

[@maggiebeth5442]

​@@michelledawn7446 I don't see her as representing Christians at all. I'm not religious but it seems to me that a true Christian practising the principles of their faith wouldn't pass judgement and weild their beliefs as a weapon. Don't worry about being misrepresented, even us atheists can tell the difference between a true practising person of faith and a hypocrite/bully 😉

[@MistySophie]

I hate how they judged Ebony's makeup look. First of all- her skin tone is much darker than Tayra's. And I bet the colors they were given weren't that much pigmented, so the red wouldn't "pop" that much like on the other girls with lighter skin. And I mean, she blended the makeup really good and did the lip beautifully, but there are limits to what can you do with the color you were given.

[@KatiB5587]

Veterinarian (and former photographer) here. The snakes used for these shoots are all super chill and unlikely to bite - as shady as it is to make models photograph with their fears, the OSHA regulations would have meant they had to seek out snakes that are socialised and don't freak out being handled at all. They wouldn't have wanted a lawsuit had any of the models been bitten. It's also likely that they ensured the room wasn't hot and humid, but a bit on the cool side which makes the snakes a little bit sleepy/timid/relaxed, and I didn't see any of them being particularly active. They were making maximum contact with the models in an attempt to get some heat. I might be biased because I love when I get to see a snake at work, but the snakes stole the show for me. But as a former professional photographer (now hobbyist who occasionally gets commissions), I really cannot condone putting models in a situation where they feel like there is potentially a risk to their safety (even if the situation is 100% safe and controlled). It's psychologically damaging and is absolutely not an industry standard. The only time I have seen a model in a potentially risky situation has been on ANTM or when a model has commissioned a photographer for a concept shoot for their portfolio.

[@natishabobb3156]

I feel lile tyra is either jealous of their dark skin and beauty or has seen people also shame girls with darker skin tone that way and repeats it to other women , in the guise of helping or toughening their skin for what they would experience in the future but she is really just jealous of them and loves insulting women she is threatened by . It's disgusting and i feel like her short career in modeling was deserved.

[@notsarahatall3164]

I think remember Adrianne once told in an interview, that the reason she was sick, was because she was going through withdrawals. I'm not completely sure about this next bit, but I vaguely remember seeing her talk about how she did go through rehab right before ANTM, and was still being treated with medication. She was not allowed to bring the medication into the house, so she took a chance, as she thought she could handle it. It lasted about 5 days, as the medication took a long time to leave her body/detox (I don't know the medical term for it, apologies). When it did, she basically went into withdrawals from not getting the rehab medication. I don't know what happened after, but since she was fine the rest of the time, I think they let her have the medication.

[@wendymitchell968]

She sounds like she was on something

[@kaitlinr9735]

People who can't do beauty shots are people who don't meet Tyra's beauty standards, of course! It's not like they're impossible for a human being to achieve... Or that they change so that no model meets her standards...

[@livaugirard3383]

Her skin looked perfect wtf?

[@santefeaster460]

They act like the models have been given the access and wealth to the high quality skincare products that model like Tyra have. It's weird that they are expected to be amateur but experienced.

[@Ria-sd2ex]

Thank you for continuing to expose Tyra's toxic antics on ANTM. I swear it seemed like people were so quick to forgive it and brush it under the rug. I just found that to be incredibly disturbing.

[@BeautifulBoreal]

Everytime I watch one of these my hatred for Tyra grows. That woman is way beyond problematic. 😬

[@AnaFox]

The editing on the pictures is so different. It's like the different stages of photoshop learning. And that positivity really did a UNO reverse, but in truth, the positive comments were the oddity here. The "supposed to"s kill me. They always have to shame them for what they do, don't, and were "supposed" to already have.

[@monicabrown4186]

I guess Tyra was never told to "please work on that forehead"

[@temporarycurator]

She's got a point... She's an icon, she's a legend, and she is a SNAKE, now come on now -

[@BoiWonda02]

This wins

[@MuzzyBarker]

I like this shoot. It's low budget, which makes sense since it's the first season, but it's very realistic. They don't have more going on in the photo shoot than they need. I feel like they didn't fully think through how the snakes related to the concept. I think the reason the cropping is all over the place was that they wanted to have shots where the snakes were well featured and there weren't as many of those where the snakes were in super close. They could have anticipated needing a wider frame for the larger snakes.

[@elizabethhall9334]

Those snakes need contracts. They're so photogenic

[@sexieshort2]

If I remember right, they (production or someone) told Adrian that she needed to show up to judging or she would be eliminated. So them praising her for being there while sick, is just disgusting.

[@g-burtfred1106]

Iconic photo shoot. But as someone who has skin issues, it isn’t nice for someone to call out your skin texture. I don’t even like showing my doctor, but they do their best to help me.

[@TheDanceOfTX]

Oh well grow a pair

[@missknight9]

This is horrible & I’m so sad she went through that. There are also things the MUA/Lighting Team/Photohrapher could have done to decrease texture other than complain. But ultimately I’m glad we have started embracing texture.

[@visualbeauty3427]

Not all, sometimes a lot of people like me having dealing textured skin especially they're not satisfied their looks in general, let's be honest.

[@missknight9]

@@visualbeauty3427 Welcome to the road of self acceptance/neutrality. It is not an easy path for many, but it is the most rewarding. Every step counts, but keep that big image in focus and the progress will come. It also gets so much easier if you’re able to find people with these same values.

[@Kayyleeeeee]

It’s crazy to see how much Tyra was involved in the first 3 cycles. Later on she really only was there for panel and sometimes she would photograph a shoot, then have a random check in. I feel as a host she should have actually been at the photo shoots/challenges.

[@Bajanqtay2012]

She told Nicole her eyes looked dead, but her fear came out in her eyes in the photo. Sounds like she showed emotion in her eyes to me. Tyra was a mess of contradictions

[@Samantha-qj9wq]

This went from a glamor shot including snakes to "I could eat squirrel food" faster than I was prepared for.

[@russellmo94]

from the clips i saw, their snakes all seem calm and comfortable and like they tolerated everything really well

[@russellmo94]

some snakes are more social than others, but i think it’s good insight into the relationship they have with their handlers. my only issue is the makeup and glitter getting on them.

[@punchdrunkassassin]

"It's going to be Tyra isn't it?" > they bring out snakes. Yeah I mean, close enough.

[@MsDecemberBlu]

IMO Ebony had the best makeup look and the was the closet to Trya’s. Some of the ones they were praising looked like scary clowns but I guess that fashion 🤦🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️

[@ThatStudNiya]

“& he doesn’t have arms or legs,he’s killin it wit just his head” LMFAOOO YOOO I’M WEAK BRUH😭😭💀💀

[@ajsmiley1311]

I notice that Tyra will often will tell women with really dark brown eyes that they have no life in their eyes. And you almost never hear that for the girls with like light brown eyes, blue or green eyes. Just a thought.

[@amyt2035]

I don't even see any texture on Ebony's skin, but assuming she has bad skin texture, there is literally nothing she can do about it. This is coming from someone who has been going to all sorts of clinics and dermatologists throughout my adult life trying to fix my skin texture (acne scarring, large pores, sun damage, etc). I've had peels and laser treatments and derma rollers and light therapy and if anything they just made it worse and were too expensive. Even in the best case scenario, these treatments might help slightly and temporarily but nothing will ever really fix it - once your skin is damaged in those ways there's really no going back, it's permanent irreversible damage. So Tyra saying "your skin texture needs work" is like telling a short person "your height needs work".

[@emmanuellalockner8779]

I really love watching your reactions of this show