Are Modern Runflat Tires Finally Good? Normal, RFT and SEAL Tires Compared!

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@Bhargav537
@Bhargav537 Жыл бұрын
We gotta give this man a nobel prize for the kind of info he has put out on this planet!🤩
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
@francoispanneton609
@francoispanneton609 Жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTELY!! 👍🏼👍🏼
@douglasdever6134
@douglasdever6134 Жыл бұрын
You have to be a comedian!
@shadowblade2149
@shadowblade2149 Жыл бұрын
Nobel prize for automotive safety
@skippylegrandgourou2069
@skippylegrandgourou2069 Жыл бұрын
Lol a tire test on a shitty ugly car that have no chassis lol.
@whatever_12
@whatever_12 Жыл бұрын
Hankook just got my respect for making a special tire for you to educate us! And that's what earn my money.. in the tyre world were the masses don't understand anything and we are pray to marketing without being able to verify their claim, you're our knight in rubber armour coming to our rescue..thank you
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@user-fm9rz5zg1u Жыл бұрын
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@poseidonsr
@poseidonsr Жыл бұрын
Finally !! I suggest that you include in every test (when possible) some RFT tires, siblings of the normal ones in the test
@user-fm9rz5zg1u
@user-fm9rz5zg1u Жыл бұрын
Hit me up 👆👆👆.
@AsR3DaS
@AsR3DaS Жыл бұрын
Ive got Bridgestone Potenza run flats on my BMW and have zero issues with them in either performance or comfort, yes they were very pricy but knowing that I wont get stranded somewhere and can get home outweighs that. Great video new subscriber now!
@hazindu
@hazindu Жыл бұрын
Several years ago, Bridgestone made a run flat that only partially held the sidewall height when deflated, so that it could be softer and not ruin the ride. It looks like others are starting to follow. TireRack recently mis-filled my order, and now I have two Pirelli run flats on the front of my car. I've noticed that they have a similar contact bulge to the rear non run flats.
@sapphiretiger05
@sapphiretiger05 2 ай бұрын
Fascinating! Great work thank you for all the time you put in on testing and filming we need more helpful informative content like this. Clearly this one was sponsored just wondering if you would consider, if acess to another track, comparing all run flats across different brands. Maybe Bridgestone Driveguard Plus v Hankook ?RF v Pirelli Centarato P7 v any other established RFs I might’ve missed
@ChadGeidel
@ChadGeidel Жыл бұрын
This is the first I've heard of SEAL tires. Do they come from the manufacturer with the sealant? I'll have to keep an eye out!
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@user-fm9rz5zg1u Жыл бұрын
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@chuckbromley9786
@chuckbromley9786 Жыл бұрын
Great work,enjoyed your presentation and learned much. TY
@waffle911
@waffle911 Жыл бұрын
The Kinergy 4S2 is available in runflat?? Oh snap!
@ticks2012
@ticks2012 Жыл бұрын
the way u describe sensations that you feel while driving is incredible. just as chefs insures their palate, i hope u insure your buttometer😂
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
😅😅
@anidiotinaracingcar4874
@anidiotinaracingcar4874 Жыл бұрын
The sealing tire seems like the best choice from my couch. How does it work when the puncture is due to a screw? Do you leave it there for the journey or remove it as soon as you notice it?
@sebo8872
@sebo8872 Жыл бұрын
I am surprised you are asking BMW M for fitting runflats. If the tyre presents no clear advantage in grip and makes it more difficult to pass WLTP then this is no option. On top it will be challenging to sell a runflat with a sports compound, so it would be specifically made for this car in question. But of course I am also happy to see a good performing runflat, because safety is most important everywhere.
@khehlentlemeza1922
@khehlentlemeza1922 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@cretzunm
@cretzunm 8 ай бұрын
Hello. Can you test the SEAL with a nail remaining inserted in the tire while driving? How is the sealant reacting to this?
@TheAlfador
@TheAlfador Жыл бұрын
This video got me to subscribe
@andyowens5494
@andyowens5494 Жыл бұрын
Whoever at Hankook supported this test deserves a bonus; THE best advert for both the brand and those products. Sack most of the marketing department, and do this kind of advertising, not the emotional nonsense. It was worth a bent wheel, a few sets of tyres, and the extra engineering to make the special set. I'm impressed.
@phatgringo2.0
@phatgringo2.0 Жыл бұрын
I have the regular version of these tires. They've been great but wear quickly. Not gonna last 60k miles as advertised, maybe 45k miles.
@Beer_Dad1975
@Beer_Dad1975 Жыл бұрын
Pity Hankook are shit tyres though.
@Beer_Dad1975
@Beer_Dad1975 Жыл бұрын
@@phatgringo2.0 Yeah, they aren't up to the quality of the likes of Michelin and Continental. Personally, wouldn't waste my money on them.
@fanATIc666x
@fanATIc666x 28 күн бұрын
@@Beer_Dad1975i had older models of contis summer and winter tires on my car, they were top models from like 2018+-... last seasons i changed them to Hankook latest models and they are good, astronomicaly better then worn contis, maybe are new contis even better than hankook, but in tests they are not as much better, but what is huge different is price, i saved almost 50% on hankook tires compare to contis in my country... so idc even if they will be worn in couple km faster idc.... none of my tires ever survived more than 40k km...
@JJonCars
@JJonCars Жыл бұрын
I bloody love this channel. No one makes as informative and quality tyre vids as you :) Even just seeing the two tyre walls pushed together gives you an intuitive idea of what goes into the design of a runflat tyre (which I didn't fully understand until now). I'm becoming more of a tyre nerd each day 🤓 it's also fascinating that you can barely notice when they're flat. My Dunlop Sportmaxx RT2 are 'Run on flat', but for some reason Dunlop never use the term 'Runflat' anywhere. Makes me wonder is there a difference, or is just terminology that Dunlop use? I also just persuaded my gf to buy some Hankook Ventus Prime 4 for her car - I wasn't pleased to be given a lift anywhere in 4 mismatching tyres :D RIP tyre bros 😂
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
I believe runflat is a bridgestone term, Goodyear use ROF, Michelin use ZP (zero pressure) but thanks to BMW and Bridgestone, everyone know's them as runflats
@JJonCars
@JJonCars Жыл бұрын
@@tyrereviews Ah great thanks, makes perfect sense :)
@paski5113
@paski5113 Жыл бұрын
Now we need runflat seal tires
@givemeajackson
@givemeajackson Жыл бұрын
props to hankook for both making a sealant tyre just for your test and inviting you to their testing facility.
@Mirceabalea
@Mirceabalea Жыл бұрын
Hi Jonathan, I'm so happy your work gets the recognition it deserves and you have these amazing opportunities from the top brands. Great video.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@youtubedeletesmychannels2329
@youtubedeletesmychannels2329 Жыл бұрын
@@tyrereviews can I change a run flat tire on a 2006 bmw to a ordinary reliable
@tire_reviews
@tire_reviews Жыл бұрын
@@youtubedeletesmychannels2329 yes lots of people do
@tire_reviews
@tire_reviews Жыл бұрын
@@youtubedeletesmychannels2329 best to do all 4 or at least axle pairs. No singles
@grvl307
@grvl307 Жыл бұрын
My BMW came with 17 inch runflat tires from 2016. I mounted new runflat tires this january from the same brand (Bridgestone) , and the difference is night and day. The older runflats are far less comfortable than the new ones. If you don't do track days and don't have space for a spare, runflats are fine 🙂
@georgesunnyt
@georgesunnyt Жыл бұрын
Could you tell the model name of your tire? I currently run a Bridgestone Potenza runflat 225/50 r17 manufactured in the year 2020 in the front and I feel it's on the stiffer side.
@grvl307
@grvl307 Жыл бұрын
@@georgesunnyt I run turanza's in 225/40/18. They're still stiff, don't get me wrong. But my previous set is muuuuch stiffer and are 17 inch...
@ioannisstavrou2677
@ioannisstavrou2677 4 ай бұрын
All new tires are better
@roshanthomas9805
@roshanthomas9805 4 күн бұрын
My only worry is if it bends the rims over bad road surfaces.
@n0xt
@n0xt Жыл бұрын
It's great to see manufacturers suportting you in these tests, I just hope that we don't lose you to the industry one day (although I would completely understand such decision).
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
Independent testing is what I love, I hope to do it as long as possible!
@mixworks-de
@mixworks-de Жыл бұрын
Amazing - I'm surprized how well the runflat tire performed. I had a runflat set on my BMW years ago that was not so convincing, good to see they're making progress!
@vMaxHeadroom
@vMaxHeadroom Жыл бұрын
Had a BMW 335i when run flats were new and I hated them and removed them the first chance I got also had a warped alloy (had to fight with BMW to get the alloy replaced) and they were just a lot harsher to run, so completly put off. Great to know that these run flats have developed to a point where they are more than good.
@LordStraightBanana
@LordStraightBanana Жыл бұрын
I just removed a set of run flat Pirelli P Zeros from my M340i. It’s now running a set of Pilot Sport 4s, I wish I’d done it years ago.
@timbob1145
@timbob1145 Жыл бұрын
​@@LordStraightBanana glad you made this comment, had a 330d e92 years ago and swapped the runflats for PS4s and it was night and day. Just got a 335d f31 that has falken run flats on and it is awful, genuinely disturbingly bad... was wondering if it was just these particular tyres and if other better ones would be ok... but no, if your pirellis were awful too then I'm off for some eagle f1s or some PS4s again. Cheers
@LordStraightBanana
@LordStraightBanana Жыл бұрын
@@timbob1145 the ride was harsh and crashy with the P Zeros, you felt every bump. They may or may not have been better than your falkens, but it seems a common theme with run flats. These cars should come fitted with the Michelins.
@timbob1145
@timbob1145 Жыл бұрын
@@LordStraightBanana agreed. Thanks again for your input.
@cristiandemirel1918
@cristiandemirel1918 Жыл бұрын
I've never drove a car with run flat tires until this year and I can tell you without a doubt that they are shit in terms of the driving experience. Fortunately, I'll replace them in a couple of weeks never to return again.
@emmamitchell1582
@emmamitchell1582 Жыл бұрын
Is it advised/allowed to run a sealed tire indefinitely after a puncture? I guess so, because how will I even know that it was punctured?
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
Yep!
@romeodogg
@romeodogg Жыл бұрын
If they made a run flat with the sealant that would be amazing!
@utiuandy99
@utiuandy99 Жыл бұрын
And expensive
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
I wonder why no one has done this!
@gilfolsom5980
@gilfolsom5980 Жыл бұрын
Could you just inject some sealant into the run flat like they frequently do on bicycle tires?
@reecedrury4145
@reecedrury4145 Жыл бұрын
@@tyrereviews working for a car manufacturer it's very had to certify SST's and hit all attributes. Assume be even harder and more expensive to throw RF into it.
@smileyguyz
@smileyguyz Жыл бұрын
@@gilfolsom5980 The liquid sealant used in tubeless bikes is much different than what appears to be used in the seal tire in the video. On bikes, it's not really gonna seal big punctures, but rather help seal the bead and any small leaks. Also, tire guys will hate you if you use liquid sealant, since it makes such a mess when changing them.
@F48l4N99
@F48l4N99 4 ай бұрын
I just got the Pirelli p7 and when the tyre was trying to sell it to me, he showed me the sealed. I didn’t even know that existed until then so now I’m here doing some research. I had Michelin primacy run flats before and they were pretty loud and slightly harder compared to the current P7’s. Thanks for the informational video. Hopefully I don’t get any damage or punctures on the sides 😅 👍
@karskislerbunlar.m7751
@karskislerbunlar.m7751 Жыл бұрын
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@Youtubedotcomma
@Youtubedotcomma Жыл бұрын
Look forward to a run-flat comparison from Michelin, continental, and Goodyear
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
ME too!
@Youtubedotcomma
@Youtubedotcomma Жыл бұрын
@@codincoman9019 we’re see what the results say! So far I found a continental do a great set a run flats SSR, apart from the Michelin pilot SuperSport run flats from a good few years ago. I don’t even know if they still make them. Definitely improved over the years and generally with the wife and kids driving the car during the day I wouldn’t fit anything other than a runflat
@daddydanne27
@daddydanne27 Жыл бұрын
What i can definitely say Pirreli run flat series is a crap .. on Spain heat they are pure rubbish
@ioannisstavrou2677
@ioannisstavrou2677 4 ай бұрын
@@daddydanne27 Pirelli runflat has a lot of issues! Cannot withstand quick fluctuations of temperature. Loosing air easy and not lasting!! This is definitely a crap for me
@dwightlooi
@dwightlooi Жыл бұрын
I never ever use run flat tires even on cars which does not have a spare. How often do you get a flat anyway? Once every decade? That's what a tow truck is for! Not going to put up with inferior ride and handling for 10 years for the sake of being able to not get a tow once a decade.
@Manuel6169MM
@Manuel6169MM Ай бұрын
Combine both technologies and you have the ultimate tire
@Jeo-What
@Jeo-What Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this comprehensive comparison video on these three different types of tires. A true "Ultimate safety tire".... maybe a RunFlat Seal Tire for the future that has excellent rolling resistance?!😉I wonder how long those seal material lasts in real life though.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
As far as I'm aware the seal material is good for the life of the tyre.
@Jeo-What
@Jeo-What Жыл бұрын
@@tyrereviews would that be 5 years or 10 years?
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
@@Jeo-What most manufacturers recommend 5 years for the tyre, I've not asked about the sealant working beyond that
@Jeo-What
@Jeo-What Жыл бұрын
@@tyrereviews thank you for the quick reply. In the past few years, you have tested this model of tires and it has been great except one area and that was the tread ware that cost lost of time between laps. I have also read some positive reviews that the customer was concerned about the treadwear life. What’s your experience, on this matter for this tire since the direct competitor CrossClimate2 will still performing well down to 2 mm?
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
@@Jeo-What I've not seen any data on the worn performance of these tyres, sorry
@MurderSTi
@MurderSTi Жыл бұрын
It would be cool to have a sealed and runflat combo. I have runflats on my 7 series and the ride is ultra smooth as expected.
@bbbt8090
@bbbt8090 Жыл бұрын
I hope all tires in the future come with sealant. I know tire shops will lose money but to the consumer it's a win
@Falk9714
@Falk9714 Жыл бұрын
Seal tyres are more expensive, which means more margin for tyre shops, so not necessarily. It really is the customer being unaware that such a product exist and just want a new cheap tyre.
@artursivanovskis9085
@artursivanovskis9085 Жыл бұрын
My experience with rulflat is nobody is repairing them. Had small puncher in one of tyre and when tpm whent off straight away put air in it. Straight went to garage to fix it but no one is repairing them. End up of changing tyres.
@JohannesDahl42
@JohannesDahl42 Жыл бұрын
Well, that's surprising. I've previously heard bad things about run-flats' performance and avoided them. Also, I don't have a spare wheel, getting by on dumb luck and the occasional roadside sticky-rope fix. But this review is making me reconsider some of these choices. Funny what tens of years of development can do to a technology, and I might have missed it without your great video. Thanks a lot for that!
@EvoraGT430
@EvoraGT430 Жыл бұрын
They're still un-repairable, expensive and cost more fuel to run.
@waffle911
@waffle911 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, the majority of run-flat tires available in North America (the loudest continent on the Internet) are still based on tires introduced 10-15 years ago, most are only available in fitments that came with OE run-flats, and most are pretty crap. This new Kinergy 4S2 run-flat is a welcome development in the segment and I hope it sees broader distribution in more common sizes in North America. That said, I like the idea of the self-sealing tire even more, and the penalty to fuel economy for the run-flat is not trivial.
@liev535
@liev535 Жыл бұрын
@@EvoraGT430 they are excactly as repairable as normal tires, but Cost is indeed the biggest drawback
@jonasstahl9826
@jonasstahl9826 Жыл бұрын
@@liev535 Depends many companys decline to repair them, they are repairable if they still have air in them like a nail sticking in, if they are flat and you drive them like 10km to the next tire shop they are not repairable. I can easilie repair a small puncture with a tire repair kit on the road and air them up with a 12v compressor That is defeating there purpose in my opinion, I can drive with normal tire without air but I damage the wheel, when the tire are already worn to about 50% I need to change both tires on the axle so I need 2 runflats or 2 normal tires and a rim, cost probaly the same. I dont see the benefits of runflats, they dont safe money and arent conviniet because I have to drive to a tire shop anyway or repair them myself.
@sandrabele3848
@sandrabele3848 Жыл бұрын
@@EvoraGT430 who cares about a few mpg loss when you consider the significant benefits of RFTs?
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 Жыл бұрын
Such a good looking specimen 😍 Video was good too!
@deandriver3882
@deandriver3882 Жыл бұрын
FINALLY I understand the technology of both self sealing and run flat tires. Thank you!
@geoffcrisp7225
@geoffcrisp7225 8 ай бұрын
Just fitted 4 x Pirelli P7 RF onto my BMW 4 series SE grand coupe. Compared to the previously fitted Dunlop Sports the ride, comfort and noise levels have been greatly improved. I have driven BMW's on Run Flats for the last 23 years having been a high mileage business user that didn't want replace a wheel on the hard shoulder of a UK motorway on a dark wet evening. Compared to the early RF's, I think the performance of today's tyres are much improved.
@napoleontheclown
@napoleontheclown Жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to see a test using higher aspect ratios. Rubber bands are going to be a lot easier to keep a similar feel since less sidewall means more work for the suspension.
@ironhorsehero1988
@ironhorsehero1988 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for such a comprehensive very fair test, I’ve had a few BMW’s over the years and always ditched the run flats when my tyres needed changing. Personally I feel the lack of a spare wheel is a retrograde step, having to purchase a new run flat because of a puncture is a real kicking especially if the run flat being replaced has had little wear. Like the look of the sealed tyres.
@The_Stronzo
@The_Stronzo Жыл бұрын
As everyone mentioned, you’re the most dedicated person I’ve ever heard of when it comes to tyre testing. Fair play man, always top quality content, always great testing with enough information for everyone. One of your best attributes is that you can put it all in simple words. It’s great nerding out on a subject with some likeminded people but being able to take all that complex info and put it down to simple formats such as distances and percentages for everyone to understand is great. Also the production has gone up a notch with that GoPro in the tyre, I bet that was a mission fitting the tyre with it in the way. Fair play Mr Benson, not only you’ve grown a channel to this size you’ll still take the time to reply and go through comments. All the best💪
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@user-fm9rz5zg1u Жыл бұрын
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@Youtubedotcomma
@Youtubedotcomma Жыл бұрын
I have genuinely been waiting for several years for this video, it’s arrived you did promise it! Lol
@rodmunch69
@rodmunch69 Жыл бұрын
I owned a C5 Corvette back in the early 2000s, and it had stock runflats, and in the rain the car was nearly undriveable it would slip and slide around so much. Being in Florida, that meant nearly every day in the summer, the car tried to kill you. I had, at that time, heard that's just how Corvette's are, they easily break free, they're wild, etc. Well I went out and bought the best wet performance tires you could get at the time, the lengedary and awesome looking Goodyear GSD3, and holy s---, it was basically like getting a new car. Not only was the dry handling much improved, the car, in the rain handled better than the runflats did in the dry. It was remarkable the difference. No longer did the car constantly break free, no longer did it slip and slide all over in the rain and try to kill you. The runflats, when I replaced them still looked brand new, only had about 22k miles on them, were, I believe, 3 years old - they weren't bald, were not abused, but instead I think they were rock hard, which is why they had no grip.
@kenzohkw
@kenzohkw Жыл бұрын
The GSD3s were awesome in the early 2000s. Ran them myself and every other tyre was pretty poor in comparison. The tyre game has certainly moved on. Can't believe how we survived the 90s on plastic tyres 😂
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
GSD3, what a tyre!!
@rodmunch69
@rodmunch69 Жыл бұрын
@@tyrereviews best looking tire ever made.
@rodmunch69
@rodmunch69 Жыл бұрын
@@kenzohkw they were the first performance tire I bought, and I was shocked at the difference . They were the first tire I ever felt that would 'bite' in corners. I had heard people talk about that before, but had never experienced it myself. It just completely changed the car, turned the Vette from a muscle car into one that you could take around a corner without the fear of death.
@James-RJM
@James-RJM Жыл бұрын
Gsd3 was likely the best tyre I've used in the wet, end of! Aquaplaning was non existent! I appreciate that wheels get bigger and technology moves on, hence the asymmetric, but I miss them 😪 Sidewalls were possibly their weakness vs the asymmetric.
@CambridgeAutogleam
@CambridgeAutogleam Жыл бұрын
another tyre that I'd have for the UK winters if only they did it in my BMW size. 225/45/18 and 255/40/18 staggered set up.
@javiTests
@javiTests Жыл бұрын
Hankook? At the beginning I thought they were the Michelin CrossClimate! Someone has been cheating in the exam!! 😂😂
@lesleythobeka
@lesleythobeka Жыл бұрын
I really don't get why people complain about run flat tyres. Picture this, I was driving a 2011 530d and overtaking at about 160kph and the right rear burst, what would have happened if it where a normal tyre? The car didn't move around or skid, but continue straight on as if everything was normal. I love run flats, I just hope pricing would be more affordable.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
Glad the technology worked :)
@BlackonBlackE46
@BlackonBlackE46 Жыл бұрын
hey man I was looking at Nitto sn3 winter tires, I would appreciate it you could let me know how they are.
@user-fm9rz5zg1u
@user-fm9rz5zg1u Жыл бұрын
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@demoniack81
@demoniack81 Жыл бұрын
I had literally never even heard of the sealant tyres. I wonder how well the sealant would work with a screw that remains embedded in the tread. Out of all the punctures I've had, I'd wager over 50% were screws, not nails. One happened just last week.
@SeikGames
@SeikGames Жыл бұрын
The biggest thing for me with older runflats is that the car becomes unstable on older roads that has noticeable tracks. Pretty common in Latvia.
@SeikGames
@SeikGames Жыл бұрын
@@codincoman9019 that’s really good if that’s the case. I have BMW 1 series and having at least a possibility to get somewhere in case of a puncture gives a feeling of reassurance
@geoffcrisp7225
@geoffcrisp7225 8 ай бұрын
We call it tram lining in the UK. I found it was made worse on wide low profile tyres.
@SeikGames
@SeikGames 8 ай бұрын
@@geoffcrisp7225 the worst I have felt it was on my monthers in law F25 X3. On run flats the thing was plain scary on tracks
@sdremix
@sdremix Жыл бұрын
I once punctured my Bridgestone turanza 005 runflat during the last 100 km of 400 km journey on the motorway. The car didnt show any sign of instability and I was able to complete the trip with no issues. I stopped just once when my infotainment system alarmed saying loss of tyre pressure, but on examination the Tyre looked ok. I only noticed the puncture the morning after.
@LKS98
@LKS98 Жыл бұрын
Is there a difference in "tram lining" will it tram line worse in runflats etc pull the steering wheel to the side
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
Yes generally stiffer sidewall means more tramlining
@Tom90Y
@Tom90Y Жыл бұрын
Great video Had no idea the sealant tyre even existed until seeing this video. If they ever make it to a high performance tyre like the Pilot Sport 4S etc I will definitely consider going for the sealant version (as I work a woodworking place and you have to be careful of screws in the car park)
@SoulRe4ver
@SoulRe4ver Жыл бұрын
Hello love your work man, i have a tyre shop in Madeira Island and from my experience Runflat tires have the tendency to crack wheels, that is why i dont recommend them.
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@drpepperfan0
@drpepperfan0 Жыл бұрын
My 2010 BMW came on runflats from the factory. Changed them after a month of driving. Too stiff. Glad to hear that there is almost no difference with normal tyres nowadays. Thanks for another great and such an informative test!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
Yeah i remember the ones from 2010 being quite different!
@chefchaudard3580
@chefchaudard3580 Жыл бұрын
Mine has rf too, but BMW and dealers refused to change them for normal ones for safety reasons, because the car suspension is tweaked to rf. I replaced the Michelin Pilot with alll season Pirelli rf because of that.
@williammorgan3526
@williammorgan3526 8 ай бұрын
there was mention of run flats costing more but they are still lower cost than a spare tire plus the room it would take. However I have had negative experience with run flats on my BMW's. I had a nail close to but not in the side wall and the dealer and and independent tire shop would not fix it. An to add to that I hade to buy two tires because even though the good tire was not all that worn the BMW dealer insisted that both tires on an axle (pair) had to be exactly the same diameter. So that nail hole which could have been fixed on a regular tire cost me two new tires ($1.000 including balancing, tax, labor and of course BMW mark up)
@MihaiBaboi1
@MihaiBaboi1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this test. I have suggestion, if I may: you've used Hankook tires because they have the same compound. And that helps with control in the test. But I think this result justifies a test where you compare multiple tires that offer RFT options. I'd love to know if I could swap my set of PS4 for the RFT version (PS4 ZP, I think it's called) with no drawbacks. My car didn't come with a spare, so that would be a plus for me. I know there are other manufacturers that offer RFT variants of the same tire (Pirelli is one of them) and it would be nice to know which ones are to avoid and which are actually a good idea.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
I do need to do a runflat tyre test at some point!
@zlatko.
@zlatko. Жыл бұрын
@@tyrereviews Please do a RFT test! I drive BMWs that usually come with RFTs and always have the dilemma which RFT to choose :) The difference between Bridgestone Potenza SP001 RFT and Michelin PS4 ZP is night and day in grip and comfort!
@cayman9815
@cayman9815 Жыл бұрын
@@zlatko. which one is good of the 2
@zlatko.
@zlatko. Жыл бұрын
@@cayman9815 Michelin PS4 ZP is in a different league compared to Potenza AP SP001 RFT! Especially on the wet and as comfort. SP001 behaves like on ice when it's raining.
@mcp20366
@mcp20366 Жыл бұрын
Would have loved to see the temperature of the run flat tyre after de run flat test. And the expected results of the higher temps due to more friction. Or does it not matter in the emergency run flat situation??
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@MarcelloTheBandit
@MarcelloTheBandit Жыл бұрын
Huh! I remember a few years ago Continental had a similar system with their ContiSeal tyres. I'm glad someone else picked up on the self-sealing idea. Between the two systems, I like the self sealing more.
@ImportDomestic2006
@ImportDomestic2006 Жыл бұрын
Good video but can you guys compare Michelin tires with Hankook, Bridgestone and any other run flat performance all season tires. Our 2014 Corvette stingray has Michelin pilot sport run flat tires. It’s time to upgrade the tires on a 2014 Corvette and our 2021 Challenger R/T scat pack widebody shaker.
@laloajuria4678
@laloajuria4678 Жыл бұрын
that sealed tire is nuts. would absolutely buy if available like tomorrow.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
They're starting to become more common in the market, especially in VW sizes.
@DashCamSerbia
@DashCamSerbia Жыл бұрын
Pirelli had them for years (Seal Inside).
@sx300pilot5
@sx300pilot5 Жыл бұрын
Had runflats on a BMW… worst tires ever. On top of it, they didn’t have a spare because of having runflats which did absolutely nothing for me in the middle of W. Virginia when the tread separated and the tire disintegrated. Since, I have bought a different brand car, 2 of my requirements for said car were no runflats and it has to have a spare. Never again…
@Treeburnify
@Treeburnify Жыл бұрын
Can’t escape that the lack of a spare wheel is a convenience only for the manufacturer and an inconvenience for the consumer, particularly as run-flats once punctured and run on have to be discarded and typically it takes a day or two to obtain a matching replacement.
@davidlambert5426
@davidlambert5426 Жыл бұрын
Julian nowadays it seems that most car companies are run by accountants, so they are constantly looking at ways they can maximise the profits from each car sold. Some neighbours of mine have actually lost their cars due to mice or rats actually eating the plastic coating on the wiring loom
@sx300pilot5
@sx300pilot5 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention, the runflat does zero good when the tread separates and the tire disintegrates. Add in no spare, and the inconvenience now turns into a real PITA… especially if you’re in the middle of nowhere.
@mananagarwal7002
@mananagarwal7002 8 күн бұрын
That’s why a spare is mandatory In india therefore they ought to provide a spare but these greedy manufacturers are providing shitty temporary tires
@voicheck1
@voicheck1 Жыл бұрын
Bought a BMW e46, which had run flats on the rear which weren't supposed to be on there & they were awful, went to change them and discovered cracks in the alloys, ended up being expensive
@robertkasleder2226
@robertkasleder2226 Жыл бұрын
Finally. I have been waiting a long time for this. Maybe next time you could include other manufacturers also, like the Driveguard from Bridgestone. Great review. Thank you
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
I plan to at some point :)
@parmiig
@parmiig Жыл бұрын
From my experience these runflats really start to degrade and tear apart when used with high loads and long distances. My BMW G31 540d comes with, and reccomends, runflats as default - having no spare tire. After using the runflats for a couple of years, swapping between summer and winter tires, I always find at least one tire that has the internal circumference of the sidewall damaged - might also be caused by random pot holes. Issue is that, as others pointed out, these tires are designed in a way that make them more prone to failure and also unrepairable. So, since I have the toe truck service bundled with my insurance, I personally much rather use normal sligthly cheaper tires and, in the eventuality of a catastrophic puncture/failure, pull off the road and wait for the toe truck.
@evilkoala666
@evilkoala666 7 ай бұрын
This review was missing a key complaint about run flats that you mentioned - if you hit a big pothole, or drive on rough roads, not only will the RF tire get damaged, your rims will also suffer because the sidewall is not absorbing as much of the rough road hit as a standard tyre.
@KK-lx6op
@KK-lx6op Жыл бұрын
Continental have this seal tires since ca. 2008. OE VW CC; SHARAN; ….
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@thefridgeman
@thefridgeman Жыл бұрын
I had runflat tires on my E89 Z4 for almost 8 year and over 80.000 kilometers. They were from Bridgestone and I loved them. No complaints regarding comfort.
@mattmixell554
@mattmixell554 Жыл бұрын
"the really poor roadwork you get in certain countries". I feel attacked as an american. lol
@atom608
@atom608 Жыл бұрын
Would of been nice to test screws/bolts as the punctures i have gotten have been from those and never from a nail
@davidcooper4385
@davidcooper4385 10 ай бұрын
I BOUGHT run flats for a crv and a civic best decision ever,who cares about cost lol nope,don't be cheap people.
@slapshot0074
@slapshot0074 Жыл бұрын
No idea how i got into this channel but i did!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
Judging by your profile picture, was it the sweet casio watch I'm wearing?
@slapshot0074
@slapshot0074 Жыл бұрын
@@tyrereviews It must have been!
@kafcka
@kafcka Жыл бұрын
Sealguard is the best, to be honest. It saved me once, just took out the nail and move on with my life. I have it on the summer Hankook 4s and on the winter Pirelli on a Stelvio. If your car is somehow stiffer, like mine is, running on RFT will only make it worse.
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@RickyG84
@RickyG84 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant review as always Mr B, as well as being a tyre geek too I am also bit of a run flat convert! I bought a set of Bridgestone LM005 Driveguard tyres for my Volvo S90, I’ve ran them for two winters now and I can’t find any noticeable disadvantages to them. The fact they are remarkably similar to a normal tyre is incredible, especially with the added benefit of being able to drive for 50 miles at 50mph with a puncture. As you say the only real downside is the extra cost. I think the extra outlay is worth it, especially on a winter tyre, who wants to end up stranded with a tyre repair kit on the side of the road on a dark foul winters night! Kudos to Hankook for letting you use that facility, it looks seriously impressive. No wonder they are turning out award winning products with facilities like those 👍🏻👍🏻
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
Yes, Bridgestone Driveguard is their latest technology and works great!
@steveturnbull9542
@steveturnbull9542 Жыл бұрын
Don't think either of them 2 will run again.....
@John-fl8wv
@John-fl8wv Жыл бұрын
I truly love all your reviews!!! Given the extra expense and decrease fuel economy I still would not use RFT. However I have been riding road and mountain bikes for many years with sealant and have not had a flat. That new sealant tire is the way to go, especially since side wall punctures and so rare. Thank you sir!!
@RedHaloManiac95
@RedHaloManiac95 4 ай бұрын
Sharper steering does not equal more grip though. Better steering response due to the stiff sidewall but a soft tire has more grip as the transition of weight is slower and allows the tread to stay in place
@mdshovel
@mdshovel Жыл бұрын
I've been using Ultraseal in all my tyres for over 20 years .. and does what the Sealant tyre does. Been a life saver in my motorcycles and even used in my trailers as well as cars. My wife had a cut in her motorcycle sidewall and got 20 miles home as the Ultraseal slowed the deflation rather than stopped it.
@EvoraGT430
@EvoraGT430 Жыл бұрын
Shame there are so few dealers.
@mdshovel
@mdshovel Жыл бұрын
@@EvoraGT430 can buy online or some tyre shops have it in bulk to pump in
@bigskygeneration4474
@bigskygeneration4474 Жыл бұрын
Good point. Will put it on my trailers. I do add the sealant to my ebike tires. I also carry a can of the sealant tire inflator for emergencies.
@James-RJM
@James-RJM Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your information. Been trying to read up on this online for more information. It appears there are numerous names and ultraseal "may" be branded differently now?? Is it straightforward to put in, I assume via the valve, any issues with tpms, and any particular tyre fitters who supply and or add it that you know of? I'm in the uk. Many thanks.
@mdshovel
@mdshovel Жыл бұрын
@@James-RJM Yes they seem to have changed franchise names over the years ... but the core product is the same. You let the air out, remove valve core and pump the set amount in. Then re-pressure and drive about to distribute evenly. Never had an issue with TPMS or repairs (unlike some tyre sealants). Some trye shops have it in bulk to pump in - you'd have to ask around, but I put my own in. It squirts a little pink blob as it seals .. so your wheelarch/mudguard show it has happened, which I find useful to know. I saw it demonstrated in person over a plank with dozens of nails - repeatedly driven back and forth with no appreciable loss of pressure. A godsend when touring Europe on motorcycles ... or towing trailers. I have no connection with them ..just passing on what I found to be a good product.
@Alpejohn
@Alpejohn Жыл бұрын
But what about tracking on bad roads? Roads with deep wheel tracks etc. Thats what i have heard most people having problems with.. I have never tried runflat my selfe tho.
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@user-fm9rz5zg1u Жыл бұрын
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@florian_montuzet
@florian_montuzet Жыл бұрын
The go gro inside the tyre was amazing.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@MadmanLink
@MadmanLink Жыл бұрын
This was awesome! So much info, seeing my car doesn't have a spare and just a pump and sealant I've been thinking about run flat. The sealant tire is a solid option. Also to have a tire company just give you a bunch of tires and let you do your best, shows how much they believe in their product.
@CerberusTenshi
@CerberusTenshi Жыл бұрын
With airless tyres on the horizon, RF tyres and sealant tyres might become outdated relatively soon. Though it's good to have that option in some tyre sizes. What I was really interested in was the mousse filled rallye tyres, but since the FIA banned them, no progress was made and they were never available on the market. Which I think was a missed oppertunity. It would bridge the gap between runflat tyres and those with sealant.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
Airless has come along way, but it's also still got a long way to go. Air is surprisingly useful it turns out!
@CerberusTenshi
@CerberusTenshi Жыл бұрын
@@tyrereviews Michelin wants to start selling their airless tyres in 2024. Well, we'll seehow that turns out. I Hope you will test those intensively.
@wickednoreaster
@wickednoreaster Жыл бұрын
I wonder how well the runflat can resist sidewall bruising. I live in an area plagued by potholes, and have a bent rim and a dead snow tire to prove it.
@Professional_internet
@Professional_internet 9 ай бұрын
Why aren’t they offering a combined solution: run flat plus sealing and I’d buy it
@tadasstrikauskas1205
@tadasstrikauskas1205 Жыл бұрын
It is a pleasure to see you being so happy with this test and amazed by such products.
@AraCarrano
@AraCarrano Жыл бұрын
Oh the days of white wall Uniroyal Royal gold Seal tires.
@Zygersaf
@Zygersaf Жыл бұрын
Time for a runflat with seal inside it as well then! Puncture proof tyre, just don't damage the side wall and you should be unstoppable!
@davidlambert5426
@davidlambert5426 Жыл бұрын
Harry, or just a normal tyre with a sealant which is what I do for a business. Customer wins by not getting punctures, also wins due to a longer lasting tyre mileage as the sealant actually makes the tyre run slightly cooler.
@yamahass66
@yamahass66 Жыл бұрын
Why is the studless better on a ice track? Can you test more tyres with studs and can you Please compare say maybe 2 years old stud tyres with new ones since no one do this?
@CartubeCoIl
@CartubeCoIl Жыл бұрын
AS always, an excellent review Jonathan. I ditched the RFT on my F22 the but who knows, after seeing that I might come back.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
What did you swap to?
@Assimilator1
@Assimilator1 Жыл бұрын
'You wouldn't run with a TPMS light on', err, have you not meet the 1/2 of drivers who ignore warning lights? 😂🙄(period!). I changed a RFT on a Mini which had holes in the inner sidewall! How long had they been driving it (with the light on)!!??
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
I hate people
@DAVEXR2007
@DAVEXR2007 Жыл бұрын
Runflats cost more, ride harsher, sound louder, handle poorer in wet/colder conditions, (especially when worn). Ask a BMW driver 😉..
@geoffcrisp7225
@geoffcrisp7225 8 ай бұрын
Not anymore. Yes older RF's did all you say, I have drive on BMW shod RF's for 20 plus years. Just fitted four Pirelli P7 RF's on a 4 series, ride, noise, comfort all greatly improved.
@geoffcrisp7225
@geoffcrisp7225 8 ай бұрын
Not anymore. Yes older RF's did all you say, I have drive on BMW shod RF's for 20 plus years. Just fitted four Pirelli P7 RF's on a 4 series, ride, noise, comfort all greatly improved.
@davidbach7003
@davidbach7003 Жыл бұрын
Self sealing is not new. General Tire made one with five layers of sealant. That was back in the 1960s
@nitishdhankar7512
@nitishdhankar7512 Жыл бұрын
You have done and showed a great full experiment for the viewers. Love for all the hard work and sharing the knowledge. ❤
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@LordToogood
@LordToogood Жыл бұрын
Is there a sealant that you can apply to your existing tyres?
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
I believe the product exists however I don't know how effective it is. The stuff the tyre companies use is not a home soltuitin
@davidlambert5426
@davidlambert5426 Жыл бұрын
Here in the UK their is a product called puncturesafe. It also has different options as to level of puncture protection so High speed is 6mm and 175mph. Medium is is upto 15mm and max speed of 90mph. Then there is a heavy duty version which offers 30mm and upto 50mph. And each version will seal 100 punctures of maximum diameter in the tread area. A1 Puncturesafe
@realelaverick
@realelaverick Жыл бұрын
What's the lifespan of the seal material in the tyres? Is it comparable with the life expectancy of the tyre itself, or will it start to dry out over time and lose efficacy?
@greenygreen5308
@greenygreen5308 Жыл бұрын
Yep, this was my fist thought too. Especially with heat cycles, cold weather, etc etc. but on the surface looks like a great option that (as Jon) I’m surprised isn’t more widely implemented.
@DashCamSerbia
@DashCamSerbia Жыл бұрын
They last the life of the tyre. You are not supposed to drive on a 6+ year old tyres anyway...
@kingduckford
@kingduckford Жыл бұрын
@@DashCamSerbia If you drive very limited miles and have a very conservative driving pattern, some treads will last until the tire fails from age or sun rot. I've had tires last 20 years.
@DashCamSerbia
@DashCamSerbia Жыл бұрын
@@kingduckford Thread depth does not matter. The tyre compound will deteriorate after about 6 years.
@rondail5675
@rondail5675 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the review. Thanks to Hankook Tires!!
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@law5223
@law5223 Жыл бұрын
The biggest current problem these days with run flats is that, as u stated, if u do get a puncture and drive it it's no longer repairable and u need to buy a new tyre
@jamesporter3656
@jamesporter3656 Жыл бұрын
Depending on the manufacturer you most times can not repair a run flat.
@evilkoala666
@evilkoala666 7 ай бұрын
And you might have bent rims
@yelnatsch517
@yelnatsch517 Жыл бұрын
Actually… I did. I drove for about 60 miles at over 70mph with run flats with zero pressure. They were absolutely fine when I got to the dealership. 😅
@EasyFingerboarder
@EasyFingerboarder Жыл бұрын
I’ve been driving runflats for the last couple of years and I love them because they saved me in some critical situations. The harder sidewall is really strong in deep pothole situations, but the problem is the rim is easily bended because of this.
@hks-lion
@hks-lion Жыл бұрын
That’s interesting about the rim being more easily bent. I have hankook run flats and not had a puncture over 3 years but the alloy has flattened in one area I went over a deep pothole in Manchester. Cost £75 to have repaired
@jedd1004
@jedd1004 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! You talk like the sealed tire is new though, I remember Uniroyal had one in the late 80's IIRC when I worked in tires as a teen. I remember them being heavy and not balancing well.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews Жыл бұрын
Very true, yet they've still not caught on!
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