Tzipi Livni | Israel and the Middle East after the October 7 Massacre: Threats, Challenges, & Hopes

[@lowell418]

Livni lost a vote for her party's leadership, and instead of accepting the results, she formed her own party with abysmal election results. She boasted of her "close friendship" wth Condi Rice, but utterly failed to insist on enforcing UNSCR 1701, which was supposed to see Hezbollah move across the Litani River. Your fawning praise of her is undeserved.

[@bikerd12]

“It is very complicated” a shorthand for let’s keep things as is.

[@MrGoldtrader]

Tzippi Livni, today you finally understand that and settlement according to your vision requires a counterparts who rejects terrorism, why didn't you understand that when your political allies negotiated Oslo with the terrorist Arafat?

[@hus390]

Nonsense! Give the Palestinians hope. Tell them come this date and time, you will be free of military occupation, and test their will then. Notice how 1.5m Israeli Arabs are docile. They don’t live under military occupation.

[@bikerd12]

Her parents were prominent members of the Irgun paramilitary force . That force has been credibly accused of terrorism which I have to assume this lady is aware of. The world is a funny place where one group of terrorists or their descendants accuse another group of terrorism. Stop all terrorism. Come to your senses before you destroy each other and possibly engulf the region in a catastrophe.

[@richardchurchward4413]

The darkness at the heart of Zionism is denied or celebrated by modern Israelis....shame....

[@alrosano5786]

I believe she really believes it , now that’s a big problem!

[@rickramirez5161]

Israel needs new leadership not you

[@paulabalansky1611]

How can TL not acknowledge that she is ALSO an architect of the current situation in Israel? Please name the peaceful Hamas leaders you want to deal with??

[@bunjijumper5345]

Blaming her is not fair, as a non Jew, it’s clear to me that the Palestinians will never settle until they get it all back. You can deny demographics let alone the growing support for Palestinians even in America. I would accept reality and leave Israel.

[@Steve-mo4qp]

thanks for bringing this and for the excellent questions. There were more than one or two views touched on that I didn't want to hear or believe, particularly the seemingly insurmountable obstacles to a negotiated two state solution. The former political leader's optimism despite everything she has experienced and understands, is encouraging.

[@MimiKay-s6i]

1. Haifa Massacre 1937 2. Jerusalem Massacre 1937 3. Haifa Massacre 1938 4. Balad al-Sheikh Massacre 1939 5. Haifa Massacre 1939 6. Haifa Massacre 1947 7. Abbasiya Massacre 1947 8. Al-Khisas Massacre 1947 9. Bab al-Amud Massacre 1947 10. Jerusalem Massacre 1947 11. Sheikh Bureik Massacre 1947 12. Jaffa Massacre 1948 13. Deir Yassin Massacre - 1948 14. Qibya massacre -1953 15.Tantura Massacre - 1948 16. qibya massacre -1953 17. Khan Yunis Massacre 1956 18. Jerusalem Massacre 1967 19. Bahro Al Baquar in 1972 20. Sabra and Shatila Massacre 1982 21. Al-Aqsa Massacre 1990 22. Ibrahimi Mosque Massacre 1994 23. Jenin Refugee Camp April 2002 24. Gaza Massacre 2008-09 25. Gaza Massacre 2012 26. Gaza Massacre 2014 27. Gaza Massacre 2018-19 28. Gaza Massacre 2021 29. Gaza Genocide 2023 is still ongoing. *SO DON'T LET ANYONE TELL YOU IT STARTED ON OCTOBER 7th* *OVER 75 YEARS OF PALESTINIAN OPPRESSION* *PLEASE REPOST*

[@garrythomaz743]

With All Due Respect , The State Of Israel Has Visited A Great Brutality Upon The Palestinian People....The Beautiful Jewish People Are Victims Of The Racist Israeli State Decisions , They Just Can't See It

[@carlbender1781]

Tzipi Livni. Is correct and accurate on all accounts. This is a Lady of exceptional integrity and love for her country I admire her greatly. I am an American Christian Jew

[@anthonybernstein9698]

How can you be an American Christian Jew?

[@adelmomarietta3964]

To support a two state solution goes against the will of the Kodesh Barechu.

[@victormeidan1062]

This woman, Tsipi Livni, has shifted her basic political views so many times, she lost all credibility many years ago. She has been in 4 different political parties in the Israeli Knesset over a period of a decade. She is a prime example of a political opportunist and serial loser.

[@Hans_Magnusson]

Forget the two state solution It is not going to happen when the Palestinians don’t want it to work. Open your eyes 👀

[@MrManny075]

How can you be Christian and Jew at the same time? Jews don't believe in Jesus, you mean you are Christian Israeli

[@Vesper.-zh6sj]

🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱✊️✊️✊️🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱

[@khubza8999]

YOU CANNOT DEFEAT "HAMAS" without ENDING THE OCCUPATION--and this means giving up the idea of GREATER ISRAEL kzbin.infoNSQuyQ3o74A?si=M18bM6P_44BG-fWf

[@simonmarcus4025]

As in many discussions with Israelis, all the attention is given to the cats and dogs in the room and none to the elephant: that Israel has waged a war of measureless savagery, going far beyond what might be expected in a campaign governed by law and fundamental morality. Israel has written itself a blank check, setting no limits on the means by which it pursues its ends, thereby exposing itself to legitimate charges of war crimes. The deliberate starvation of a population is a crime. Bombardment of a civilian throng is a crime. The shooting of children is a crime. The examples are legion. Livni recites the familiar rationalizations of IDF conduct, many of which might be persuasive if not for the elephant. The bottom line is that Israel has violated principles of morality that are sacrosanct to anyone with a conscience. In doing so, it has not only eviscerated the communities of Gaza, it has turned itself into a pariah state, has jeopardized the lives of all Diaspora Jews, and has undermined the historic weight of the Holocaust as the ultimate scourge of an innocent people. Livni, for all her rationality, indulges in some flagrant falsehoods, e.g. that Israel's reprisals have not been motivated by revenge or emotion and that the genocidal pronouncements of senior government figures have not influenced military policy. She is a dutiful exponent of the Official Myth.

[@bikerd12]

Fully agree.

[@jonathanrotem251]

I think it's rich when westerners such as yourself lecture Israelis on how to conduct an existential war, when none of you have faced a similar challange since WWII, and when you did, you acted far more "brutaly" than the Israelis do now. Giving advice is so comfortable from your couch, as Israeli soldiers die daily. While Israel will be the one to pay the price for war or inaction, and shall have to live with the consequences of the regional reality that is being created now, you will not pay any price for promoting bad ideas. In short, you are in no position to judge anyone.

[@bikerd12]

@@jonathanrotem251 The killings of Israeli civilians on October 7th was wrong and a war crime. In your view, do you have any concerns or doubts about what has been happening to Palestinian civilians since October 7th?

[@jonathanrotem251]

@@bikerd12 Surly, the ones who built underground millitary bases underneath houses, mosques and hospitals, are the ones responsible for bringing war to these places. Asking Israel to effectively surrender in advance because their targets are breaking all laws and norms is wrong, and actually incentivizes other governments and terrorist organizations to do the same.

[@InessaGold]

​@@bikerd12можно задать Вам аналогичный вопрос о погибших гражданских в нацистской Германии? Приведите пример, как страны - союзники спасали немецких жителей. Возможно, они предупреждали их, где будет бой, листовками с самолетов? Может быть, они их лечили, кормили? Может, они перевозили гражданских и мирных жителей, детей гитлеровской Германии в более безопасное место? Как они избежали обвинения в геноциде немцев в Международном Суде Справедливости?

[@elisolomon8741]

Thank you for giving Tzipi a platform to speak. She is always worth listening to. What I don't agree with is this constant call for a change of PM. Yes Bibi has questions to answer. And he WILL answer them .But the aims if this war must be realised. Better to let Netanyahu take the heat for the traumas yet to unfold. Once the goals are reached, go to elections and allow a clean pair of hands to implement the day after. Don't allow an already hostile world see an Israeli government fall. Am Yisrael Chai. Sydney, Australia.

[@mightymcduff2056]

The aims you speak of....to empty Gaza of all Palestinians? This is the truth but you skirt around it.

[@stevenl5582]

IL intel and IDF were aware of HAMAS INTENTIONS! Role of US intel and R. Malley (a known antisemite)!

[@Linoy-tm8no]

As an Israeli, I truly believe that the majority of us support Israel's actions in the current war. However, when it comes to support for Netanyahu in general, I don't believe he currently has the majority of Israelis behind him. I think the turning point was his actions immediately after assuming the position of prime minister last time with his efforts to reform the judiciary, which posed a threat to Israel as a democracy. Moreover, I think that even more Israelis now hold resentment towards him because despite his claims of being a strong leader in security matters, the recent atrocities committed by Hamas on October 7 occurred. I believe there's a good chance he won't succeed in becoming the prime minister in the next election. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for your support 🇮🇱❤️🇦🇺

[@elisolomon8741]

@@Linoy-tm8no I agree with all you have said. I just don't think that now is the right time for him to step down. Allow the next PM to be unsullied by what still needs to be done. Netanyahu deserves the heat for dropping his guard over the past year . And the war cabinet is in place to show unity of country. I wish you and your family and all you love, peace and safety. Am Yisrael Chai 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱

[@yellowfish555]

contrary to what Tzipi Livni said. the right does not want Israel to act in valuation of international law. but the supreme court goes much further than the international law.

[@Hans_Magnusson]

You have no clue. Just the language you are trying but failing miserably in using tells the story. Israel is acting in accordance with international laws and conventions. That is without any doubt. The ICJ are highly biased and the whole process politicized. The campaign s driven by players such as the British BBC clearly displaying that this is a setup. You don’t have to fabricate evidence if the allegations were true. The same goes for the disgusting harassment by the UN 🇺🇳. Israel is clearly the victim of the worst atrocities against humanity we have seen in the last century. Yet they are portrayed as the evil occupying apartheid regime. I actually remember the apartheid in South Africa. It was something totally different. It is disgusting and disgraceful! The western democrats countries should be ashamed. I don’t believe in Biden supporting Israel 🇮🇱. As a private citizen maybe that is the case. As POTUS he is failing miserably as he can’t control even the domestic democrats antisemitism. The two aircraft carrier strike forces that were supposed to be there as a deterrent against escalation of t he conflict… Well the Houthi rebels isn’t to scared as it seems. Not terrible gratefully for the billions of dollars from uncle Joe either. The problem with having a fight with Yemen and the Houthi rebels over international shipping is, it puts the loyalty of the Arabs with the Arab nations… Instead of being open to a peace treaty with Israel! Now this woman is a leftists… and they don’t generally like what the right are doing. But even Golda Meir socialists as she were, had enough of Palestinian terrorists after Munich 1972. She actually was hunting down the responsible, and they were shown no mercy. Cal .22 shell cases were the only traces, car bombs, Ned bombs and other stuff happened to the leaders responsible for the Munich murderers.

[@fitzroyarmour7391]

Why is Israel dishobeyiing God by giving away territorial gains given by God Almighty in victory? Do as David did, repent y accept the protection of The King of Kings The Lion of Judah, Jesus Christ

[@BertGraef]

You misled evangelicals and your weird eschatology are a major part of this problem.

[@fitzroyarmour7391]

@@BertGraef who gave Israel miracuñous victory & territorial gains during:king Saul's, King David's, 6Day war...hamas wars?

[@revimeicler7960]

She was hard to listen to. She is taking the old Israeli stance of explaining to the world why. There should not be a reason to explain why Israel will no longer even listen to your ridiculous questions about a 2 state solution. She speaks of needing to negotiate and speaks so calmly on an issue that involves a whole population of Palestinians who do not believe in coexisting. She even spoke about the Palestinians requiring 100% or nothing. That has been the only constant throughout time, before Netanyahu. The deathbed is right and it was made by the Palestinians. That's why they supported Hamas. That's why they shout 1 state, 'river to sea'. Enough blah blah blah. And she only mentioned the hostages after an hour and a half. .

[@rtam9894]

She is accused of war crimes committed during Operation Cast Lead

[@rachidhaouach4451]

Whahahhaaa😂 great interpretation!

[@alrosano5786]

They should choose slavery?

[@michaelhansen4300]

Wasn't UNSC resolution 1701, her baby? Less talk, less giving advise you were a failure as israeli foreign minister.

[@Ght678]

There is a big temole in the middle of your idea of two states

[@Federico-kh4br]

May I humbly ask where is justice for the Palestines?

[@MimiKay-s6i]

Great question which you do not get any answer.

[@richardchurchward4413]

As we know Federico, there is no justice, freedom or dignity for Palestinians.

[@samuelgoldring9691]

Kindness is more important than justice . Justice can “justly “take away the possessions of a person and leave them homeless. When Palestinians reach out with an all embracing kindness that shows concern for the lives of their neighbors then those neighbors will begin to believe the Palestinians are concerned for justice not only for themselves but a loving life for all.

[@Federico-kh4br]

@@samuelgoldring9691 Mister Samuel - I hear you, agree, but is kindness not a two way street? I have chosen "justice", because the picture from the region, the 6m concrete wall, the settler violence, the lack of allow the Palestinian of self-determination depict a cruel reality for the Palestinians! What I see is abhorrent and has nothing to do with kindness! My mother teaches me that if you are the stronger you are obliged to be kind to settle the quarrel. I leave it here, because the bandwidth of messaging is limited.

[@samuelgoldring9691]

@@Federico-kh4br ​​Islam is a giant There are about 2 billion Muslims in the world with 5 million square miles of land Israel is a midget 600 times smaller and only 9 million people. Shouldn’t the great Islamic empire with so many resources ,lands and people help a tiny Jewish people .

[@alisaleh9405]

Miss livni the lover of various Palestinian leader from the PLO

[@zachary813]

I disagree with Livni. I believe the Right wants greater Israel for ideology, sure, but it's also true that to maintain troops in Gaza for security requires a population to support them. I think Israel should reoccupy Gaza and annex it back, live there and protect Israel and the Arabs we share Gaza with. Go back to before the 2005 disengagement.

[@shmujew4791]

Keep projecting

[@Foster-rv6ty]

You're right. That's the only way to prevent a repeat of October 7th.

[@khubza8999]

EXCUSE FOR REOCCUPATION. YOU ALL ARE DREAMING in YOUR BUBBLE. @@Foster-rv6ty

[@samanthasabbath3745]

“Historically, Muslims have viewed Jews as a pathetic minority who must be obedient and do whatever the Muslims say. Every now and then, the Muslims would find a reason to commit pogroms against Jews and relocate or kill them. If the Jews misbehaved, the Muslims would put them in their place. : It is unacceptable to Muslims that Jews have their own state where they don't have to obey and don't have to live in fear anymore. It is especially not acceptable to tolerate a Jewish state in a place that once belonged to Islamic empires. This is at the root of this conflict. This is why Muslims around the world keep cheering for terrorism and hope for an eventual destruction of Israel. Land, borders, and rights have little to do with the conflict. Unfortunately, there are leftists in the West who are completely out of touch with Islam, Muslims, and Jewish history, which is why they easily fall for the loud, genocidal crowds who play the victim”. Apostate Prophet

[@adelmomarietta3964]

@zachary813 I agree with Zachary. Israel should reoccupy Gaza and thereby offer protection to Israel and prevent any terrorists from returning. Safety first. I also think that Arabs who do not wish to destroy us should live there with us and should benefit from this alliance. 2005 was well meant by Sharon but it was a mistake.

[@MrGoldtrader]

Tzippi Livni, you need to understand that you made all the errors of judgment, when dealing with Hamas in the past, that you today accuse allies in the free world of making. So, like Einat Wilf is now saying, you need to admit your mistakes.

[@slovokia]

Palestinian public opinion in the West Bank is apparently very supportive of Hamas right now. That begs the question: does that support mean that any two state solution is impossible right now because Palestinians would want their state to destroy Israel? Another dimension of this conflict is the involvement of Islamist groups that have no desire to play by the rules of the nation state system in the first place. As long as such groups are willing to sacrifice the lives of their fellow countrymen when fighting Israel, they win the information war for international public opinion - i.e. the international community applies pressure on Israel to stop fighting to spare civilian lives and then the cycle of terrorism and rocket attacks starts all over again. So in essence the international community says to Israel that its people must live under the threat of constant attacks - a threat that the citizens of other liberal democracies would never tolerate themselves. If I was an Islamist / Jihadist I would say that we are winning in our war against the West because they care more about our civilians than we do - and our civilians always put most of the blame for their suffering on the Western powers we are fighting.

[@samanthasabbath3745]

Historically, Muslims have viewed Jews as a pathetic minority who must be obedient and do whatever the Muslims say. Every now and then, the Muslims would find a reason to commit pogroms against Jews and relocate or kill them. If the Jews misbehaved, the Muslims would put them in their place. : It is unacceptable to Muslims that Jews have their own state where they don't have to obey and don't have to live in fear anymore. It is especially not acceptable to tolerate a Jewish state in a place that once belonged to Islamic empires. This is at the root of this conflict. This is why Muslims around the world keep cheering for terrorism and hope for an eventual destruction of Israel. Land, borders, and rights have little to do with the conflict. Unfortunately, there are leftists in the West who are completely out of touch with Islam, Muslims, and Jewish history, which is why they easily fall for the loud, genocidal crowds who play the victim. Apostate Prophet

[@adamdelmonteguitarist]

I agree with you 100%. That is such a well formulated observation in a truckload of truth. Thank you for your contribution.

[@richardchurchward4413]

I almost choked at the irony and hypocrisy when you called out to the Palestinians for not wanting to comply with the nation state system. Said with an absence of irony given Israel's consistent and continual non-compliance with UN resolutions - continued and accelerated building of settlements in the West Bank, an illegal siege of Gaza and annexation/occupation of the West Bank. In addition the state of Israel is entirely built upon the construct that only Jews have a privileged place in their society. Israel is in military occupation of Palestine, creates the resistance against which it now uses to undertake genocide and should never claim the high moral ground.

[@davidchin1828]

@@richardchurchward4413 Israel didn't "create resistance", you've mistaken cause and effect. The Palestinians have never accepted Israel's existence in any form, and to date have only chosen war. They've never accepted the fact the Jews are indigenous to the area and predated by over 2000 years the Arab Islamic military conquest of the area from the East. Agree, Israel needs to stop its minority far right wing's efforts in the West Bank, which has power due to the dynamics of Israel's parliamentary representative democracy, but, in the big picture, that's only part of the overall problem, which is Palestinian rejection of coexistence with Israel to date. That said, the sad truth is that the UN isn't a coalition of the virtuous, but rather a meeting place of the world's dictatorships, corrupt states, and Islamic extremist states. Livni rightly noted Gaza's fate is caused by Hamas, who kicked out the PA by FORCE in 2007, and built its military infrastructure under the civilian infrastructure to use civilians as human shields. In fact, Hamas sent over 100 suicide bombers into Israel's buses, restaurants, teen hangouts, to quash the two-state negotiations in the early 2000s. Hams is religiously opposed to coexistence, it's a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood (read Hamas' pacifist charters, LOL). Prior to Hamas there wasn't a strict border and the populations hung out a lot. only after Hamas extremists took over Gaza did a strict border form, with special arrangements for workers to come into Israel - the hope was that the workers wouldn't help mass murderers, a naive assumption proved false by oct 7.

[@richardchurchward4413]

@@davidchin1828 . Thanks for the extensive reply David. Although articulately written I must disagree with your conclusions.Mostly on the basis that you start your narrative of the Israeli/Palestinian problems a few decades after the Nakba, expulsion of Palestinians from their homeland and the degradations they have suffered ever since. The resistance of the Palestinians is a direct result of the injustices perpetrated against them by a voracious colonialist settlement project which sees Palestinians as an obstruction to absolute control of Greater Israel, from the river to the sea. You also conflate the historical connection and presence of Jews in the disputed territories with a natural right to expel and repopulate with any Jew from the diaspora from any part of the world, no matter how distant and tenuous their links with the biblical lands. The fact that you still see this historical connection with the biblical lands as justification enough to commit ethnic cleansing (amounting to genocide) says so much about the dark soul of Zionists. You seem enlightened in your tone and delivery. However, your views are stuck in the self-serving narrative of an ideology which sees only its entitlements whilst erasing the human rights of ' the other'.

[@joeremus9039]

I had not heard Tzipi discuss her views before and I'm very impressed with her. I have two points that I'd like discussed: 1) If a palistinian state is formed, what will Israel do if it implements a right of return for its territory and it is then flooded with millions of arabs, not necessarily related to the present day palistinians, thus creating a security threat to Israel? 2) Will Israel stop the present embargo of food, water and other essentials. If no action is not immediately taken, there may not be any palistinians to have a state.

[@Hans_Magnusson]

It isn’t the Israeli that is the problem. UNRWA is the organization that should have taken care of it. They used the funds to support terrorism.

[@elisolomon8741]

There is no embargo of food or anything else. Nor has there been since the start of the war. This is not a criticism. Truly. But such incorrect statements are what fuels hatred of Israel and world Jewry.

[@richardchurchward4413]

Could you kindly read your own post and consider the hypocrisy of your statements. You express concern that Palestinians may wish to return to their ancestral lands - the so- called right if return- whilst totally ignoring the massive immigration of Jews into the occupied territories since 1948, and the right of ANY Jew to claim Israeli citizenship!! And MILLIONS have! The absence of awareness of how absurd your statements are is reflected in the views of so many Israelis who live in a state of absolute denial of how Zionism is a colonial project which is reliant upon ethnic cleansing in order to create the Lebensraum for Jewish people...what you call Greater Israel. Shameful

[@Hans_Magnusson]

7:02 nope, I don’t agree with the two state solution! That has been suggested to the Palestinians numerous times since 1947. They have always rejected the idea. From the river to the sea clearly shows that there is no interest. So does the hostage situation, and the ever repeating calls for a ceasefire, which they always violate. Hamas may not be interested in the the Palestinian cause, but they are definitely representing the Palestinians in Gaza. That is indisputable so as the Gaza elected Hamas to government…. I believe that the Palestinians should be schooled, and taken off the addiction to international social welfare checks. It’s time to grow up and becoming adults after 75 years of mollycoddle. It is not only in Gaza, you also have Palestinian s from Judea and Samaria on regular basis visiting Jerusalem and killing innocent people. The problem is that there are people in the west that supports the Palestinians. Unfortunately! I seriously don’t believe the claim that the Palestinians do are justified, not even if they “just” wants Judea and Samaria. Imho Judea and Samaria, and the Golan heights are part of the sovereign Israel 🇮🇱. Everything else is just Arab bullshit that weak western democrats subscribe to. Look at the Australian government how they can not admit to being wrong about UNRWA. The problem has been known for ages - since Eisenhower according to sources. Yet every problem with UNRWA are denied until it is obvious. Then it is “newly discovered”, then a big propaganda machine is set in motion to make it stick to Israel 🇮🇱. The old Israeli dream of land for peace isn’t going to work. It would be a: the whole land of Israel, Rest In Peace…! Imho. That is just not acceptable! We must fight back on the enemy I stand with Israel 🇮🇱 Against bullshit and atrocities.

[@richardchurchward4413]

Magnus, your wordy contribution loudly proclaims that you are a proponent of bull shit and a supporter of atrocities. Your view that Palestinians have been 'mollycoddled' for decades is beyond ignorant! A people dispossessed,oppressed, put under siege and denied the basic human right of self-determination and dignity will by necessity have to rely upon aid to survive. Your post is code for celebrating and applauding the genocide currently being undertaken by Israel

[@darv011]

She lost me when she said one question she will not ask is, why oct 7 occurred! In other word I ignore the root cause!!

[@paulabalansky1611]

Tzipi doesn’t want to talk about the past because she doesn’t want to admit that all her negotiations haven’t reached anywhere near peace, on the contrary. Can she name any agreement that has been respected from the other part? ?

[@frederiquecouture3924]

Thank You!

[@erickane7093]

Is she educated about 1948 and before and after?

[@emmasalva6311]

Shalom 💯 I admire and agree how Tzipi Livni relates to the world about Israel.

[@biogroovy]

Palestine will be free. 🇵🇸

[@zusvayman549]

17 million Muslims occupy 85% of Palestine leaving to 6 million Jews 15% of Palestine. Palestine is 120000 square kilometres, Israel included

[@orhutubeli5332]

Her talking about netanyau is pretty funny, he'll probably be the next PM. the Palestinian Authority isn't pragmatic and Palestinians in under it's control supported the massacre in higher rates than Gazans, tzipi is lying and that's why they loose elections.

[@johncarlisle2755]

I don't follow this in detail However, I would like to challenge Tzipi says that israel prevent racist parties from taking part in elections. But I understand that you now have followers of Meir Kahane in Bibi's government. People who Hertzog said were advocating the same things as the Nuremberg laws. Please comment.

[@johncarlisle2755]

Also, why did Sharon withdraw from Gaza? Obviously Gaza was obviously a failed state in the making? Surely the west bank was a better proposition for a sensible Palestinian state?

[@NitsaOz]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@FathiehDouer]

I wonder any one ask her where did she come from before 1948 this country called Palestine those people occupied Palestine in 1948 this problem not only in 7/10 this problem since 1948

[@zonkbadonk3937]

I have a question for Tzipi Livni: Does she regret her past support for repealing the Grandchild Clause of Israel's Law of Return, especially considering that nowadays the Israeli left generally defends this clause while the main calls to repeal it come from the Israeli right-wing, who in general have a serious intolerance problem?

[@the_Brainjuice]

As if israel has some kind of authority over Palestine and the people of Palestine. Get over yourself. Illegal settlers, according to international law, which you ignored, times and again.

[@elicohen1642]

What missing in the case of the conflict is the religious roots of Islam in there Quran people who are educated know what’s was written through the years since the death of Mohammad it has started when Jews refused to convert to Islam and were punished severely and continued so the wars between Islam and Judaism therefore Arabs will never accept Israel geographically the it’s today

[@machsimillian14]

The fact that you allow this woman to say that there is no occupation in Gaza completely invalidates any good faith that she had as someone who's speaking both truthfully and with integrity. This is literally misinformation.

[@elicohen1642]

As you said it’s religious war geography is what is all about therefore no a negotiation any reasonable drive can be achieved. Therefore all her speech are whisk full thinking.

[@abdojomha6705]

When you got your self that Wright to steel the Palestinian land I don't believe you have the guts to face the world and lies

[@kalziada1582]

I am 70 years old heard enough can’t even continue to listen to the Israeli broken record .

[@MycAnndee]

Good story teller. The truth kinda matters though and it takes minimal effort to uncover the reality of this horrific situation and the more you dig in to the history, the more clear the injustice becomes. The deception that supports this disgusting regime, including this woman, is shocking and frightening.

[@carlbender1781]

Tzipi Livni. Is correct and accurate on all accounts. This is a Lady of exceptional integrity and love for her country I admire her greatly. I am an American Christian Jew

[@SaraMoussaouate]

Bonjour madame tzipi livni malika je peux rendre l etat d israel comme la suisse de l euroupe respecte reconnue avec le monde arabe et l iran pas d attaque du hesbollah les houstites du yemen dissoudre hamas et jihad islamique annuler le nucleaire de l iran ce que je veux tout le gerusalem et c est un parlement qui va le gerer et c est moi qui va choisir ces representants.pour moi je suis un simple soldat et les noms des soldats ne sont pas cites dans l histoire.

[@annelawrence5546]

What a reasonable, intelligent woman! Let's hope she rises again. She is a great representative of true zionism

[@MimiKay-s6i]

Satan was and is very intelligent.

[@LiwaMalidina]

This is another deceitful contribution to the debate.

[@KarenDodo9]

With respect Gv Livini, what occupation?

[@mightymcduff2056]

This woman lies with every breath

[@DediRachmanpriadi]

🌴🇮🇩. from the islandS, in the Sea, in the End of the world ( holy Yesaya ) : le qolam Am Yisrael chai. hope Adonai Elohim blassed and saved semetic countrys arabs and israel forever. shalom 🌍🌝

[@oneofkind-i7e]

Whr is the mistake is thinking gaza can be dealt separetly without west-bank and alaqsa mosque .

[@billym3781]

This lady has good ideas that after this opportunity will bloom 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸⏳⏳⏳👁️♠️

[@shatowhasan4439]

Viva Israel 🇮🇱

[@willielee5253]

🇮🇱❤️🇮🇱

[@TerryBramow]

🇮🇱🙏🕊

[@pubguc6771]

0:30

[@stephaniechandler3842]

Ad Ha Sof

[@notlookingforafightbut]

🍉🍉🍉🍉🍉🍉🍉🍉🍉🍉🍉🍉🍉🍉🍉🍉🍉

[@kristine8338]

What about Katzav?

[@stephaniechandler3842]

No to 2 State Solution

[@richardchurchward4413]

Why? What is your solution for the millions of Palestinians living as second class citizens or people with no rights at all? Are you supportive of ridding Greater Israel of all Arabs, or as many as you can practically expel (or bomb, or starve, or shoot)? The voice which shouts for there being no state for Palestinians and does not shout for dignity and equality for Palestinians is a voice which endorses ethnic cleansing and genocide. Is that you?

[@anthonybernstein9698]

.

[@bolivarneira5838]

I would like to hear this woman justify the 56 years of ocupation. What would be her justification for the continuing oppression of a group of people for 56 years with no end in sight. She keeps talking about Israel as a democracy, Israel is as much a democracy as South Africa was in the 80s.

[@Hans_Magnusson]

Who occupy what? You are a delusional individual that only parrot the Palestinians propaganda. Israel isn’t occupying anything! Go back and learn the history of the region. You will find that there were many Jews in the area even before Israel became a state in 1947-1948! The Arab states surrounding Israel were drawn up by British and French colonialists… Etc etc

[@lizberezin2919]

But there was no occupation in Gaza for the last 17 years. How was Gaza opressed? It's just stories you tell yourself. Hamas didn't do what they did because of occupation or to end the occupation. Occupation as you refer to it (in the west bank, i guess) exists because they want to kill the jews and the jews need to put up barriers to protect themselves, not the other way around.

[@bolivarneira5838]

@lizberezin2919 In Gaza the israli army redeployed to the periphery, but the ocupation continues, Gaza is a ghetto, surrounded, closed off to the World. Israel and Egypt have closed their borders and gazans cannot go more than 6 miles into the ocean before they get shot. They're not allowed to export their fish. Gaza cannot be entered or left by air or sea. They are not allowed by Israel to have a seaport or an airport. All their services are controlled by Israel and they're cut off often. Multiple items necessary for a modern life are prohibited to enter Gaza. And all this was before the latest collective punishment endeavor by Israel, now not even enough food is allowed to enter. The brutal occupation of the Palestinian people has gone uninterrupted for 56 years. The entire World should treat Israel as it treated fhe other apartheid state, South Africa, in the 80s to force change.

[@lizberezin2919]

@@bolivarneira5838 You say the occupation continues, I say Gaza has borders with Israel and Egypt and yes, Gazans cannot freely go into other countries. Closed off to the world? How many UN personnel, doctors and reporters they had there, thousands. Export fish, seriously? They get billions in aid, food and money, from dozens of countries, exporting fish is not what stands between them and prosperity. They are poor because all this money goes into the terrorist infrastructure, Israel found millions in cash in the tunnels, in all sorts of currency. Letting them build an airport and sea port would not bring them prosperity either, they would only bring in weapons and use their money for weapons.

[@MimiKay-s6i]

[@rinadror]

An interesting and comprehensive conversation with Tzipi Livni, a political leader who retired but remained Zionist and full of hope for change in the future with another government.

[@gravityphedyourmomsfavband6450]

She's awesome. No nonsense, no wishful thinking, just facts and pragmatism. And tons of real experience.

[@Moanerzl]

It’s a shame that the mass rape propaganda is regurgitated. How about some honesty?

[@brouettesylvie8077]

What?

[@John-bravooo]

Not propaganda at all. Hamas raped. Jihadists even admitted to it.

[@jp5419]

Mass rape happened. And worse than that. They are babarían savages. Sick.

[@joeremus9039]

What makes you so sure that mass rape did not occur? I saw that someone questioned it, but I've seen Shani Louks half naked body in the back of a pickup truck with a terrorist sitting on it. Also some have made claims of the Hannibal directive being implemented. Natanyahu mentioned that some people are claiming that on October 7 we, e.g. Israel, bombed ourselves. Both claims are preposterous.

[@John-bravooo]

We know mass rapes occurred. 50+ witnesses testify. Islamists admitted it. Muslims rape.

[@insaniatinsaniat5030]

STOP GENOCIDE...

[@evamurray2564]

You are brainwashed by tik tok if you think this war is a genocide. An example of an actual genocide is the Rwandan genocide. The Rwandan genocide killed 800,000 people in 100 days with mainly machetes and guns. In over 150 days of this military war with jets, etc, the hamas reported numbers that do not distinguish between civilians and terrorists are about 30k. Do you comprehend the difference between war and genocide now?

[@adlerpfingsten4205]

A viable two state solution…requires distance Rumors are emanating from Washington DC and the UK as to unilaterally recognizing a Palestinian state without including Israel in the conversations. Aside from the fact doing so would be an egregious act of hubris; doing so would be rewarding Hamas for the October 7th atrocity while putting Israel in an untenable situation in that the lesson Islamic extremists would embrace is that terrorism is far more effective than negotiations. There is a far more tenable solution but it would require upending the current paradigm that Israel must once again trade land for peace i.e. the solution would require Arabs and Turkey to trade land for peace. Turkey’s Erdogan has long dreamed of uniting Islamic countries and here is his chance…perhaps to win the Nobel Peace Prize rather than be ejected from NATO. There is a place for every Palestinian in Gaza and the West Bank but first one must accept negotiating with a fictional people has passed; “Palestinians” are stateless Arabs and Muslims. There is no need to unilaterally recognize a Palestinian state when a far more viable state can be negotiated with the added benefit of an answer in distance…but not apartheid which simply means apartness; I mean real distance. There is a common sense solution when one calculates the length of the coastline going north from Lebanon including the Tartus/Latakia Governorates of Syria combined with the Hatay (appendix) Province of Turkey it constitutes a strip of land on the Mediterranean that equals Israel’s shoreline. The Tartus Governorate is 731 sq. mi. / the Latakia Governorate is 887 sq. mi. / the Hatay Province is 2133 sq. mi. for a total of 3751 sq. mi. of mostly arable land far exceeding the 1450 sq. mi. of arable land in Israel…and enough shoreline to create an Arab Riviera along with enough land to absorb the every Palestinian in the 2,183 sq. mi. West Bank and the 17 sq. mi. Gaza strip with ease. Hatay Province is a dirty little secret kept quiet and away from outside eyes; Hatay was annexed in 1939 within a year of the death of Turkey’s founder Ataturk who recognized Hatay as a Syrian province; a deal that was a French ploy to preempt any Turkish alliance with Nazi Germany in an echo of WW1. Land for peace has been a mantra for decades as have the two state and one state “solutions” and all have failed miserably. It is both reasonable and logical a just God of Sinai would impose upon Islam the definition of justice they themselves imposed upon Israel. The land for peace solution requires detaching the festering appendix that is Hatay Province from Turkey to be joined with Tartus and Latakia to create a federal district much like the District of Columbia; the capitol of the nation of Ishmael which would form around it; an Arab Mediterranean Riviera. It is a vision Erdogan, the Arab states and the Palestinians would find very appealing. It would be very easy to evacuate Gaza by ship for the short 340 mile trip to Hatay Province. Once there the pretense of an identifiable “Palestinian” people can be dropped and they can start to build the Mediterranean Riviera that was originally envisioned by the fools who ceded Gaza. Finally, distance and neutrality would render Islamists incapable of threatening Israel with missiles… potentially avoiding WW3.

[@richardchurchward4413]

😢 Breathtaking hypocrisy....you state that recognition of Palestine by the UK and US as being an act of egregious hubris! So please explain your response to the Balfour Declaration and the actions of the UK and League of Nations in gifting Palestinian lands to the Jewish diaspora. Shameful and willful hypocrisy and denial of history.