Peter Joseph, Zday 2019 , Argentina Q & A [ The Zeitgeist Movement ]

[@yv6eda]

Peter Joseph, brilliant as usual! Thanks CABA!

[@romuloroman]

Create a game! A simcity kind of game. It can be a bit crude but it will be good and fun to spead the theory and practice of RBE.

[@nathanjo1376]

you could integrate some of the best solutions we have found - and btw. mostly failed to implement so far - more and more ... with all the supporting evidence updating the rules of the game... making it a better model and a more valuable resource... not just technological solutions - practices, even things like: if we take good care of children who lose caretakers to tragedy, addiction etc. murder rates vastly decrease... if we provide education for people in prison recidivism rates plummet... etc. :) ? SimWorld ... (probably somebody already took that name important- one of the most important things -: keep the ecosystem healthy (we are not doing that right now... we are driving a "great extincion"

[@colto2312]

@@nathanjo1376 As a system becomes more complex it requires exponentially more input in order to simply maintain its weight, let alone move forward.

[@emilianolopez4289]

Excellent idea! What better way to input all this information deeply into the minds of people than through fun and emotions. People just won't believe what they cannot see and despite all of the deep discussions on the subject of economy in universities, in the family and between friends, the only way the ideas don't die on the table is by creating a simulation of the world under the sustainability premise. I don't know if anyone heard about something called "The common good economy", which is an economic alternative system created by a guy from Austria or Germany (I don't remember exactly) based also on sustainability.

[@romuloroman]

@@YouCensored So what? I didn't claim for it to be a perferct representation of reality. But one created to convey the RBE message. One to attract young people. I'm thinking on the ludical and joyfull way to be educational.

[@goransvraka3171]

I know just the developer for such a game = Paradox Interactive They made Surviving Mars lots of focus on renewable energy and making Mars green - Terraforming!

[@aimenfaisalzia]

Thanks Peter, your efforts are greatly appreciated! Can't wait to be enlightened by the InterReflections project, the world needs more of what you do. Much respect,

[@5rrt445]

InterReflections

[@shawoody]

I appreciate how communicatively this presentation was given.

[@FatherOMalley]

Yes. The hunter gatherer model, or better known as egalitarianism. It's really based in cybernetics if you think about it. Let's try to best mimic our environment, not kill it.

[@FatherOMalley]

It's hierarchical as far as it is mimicking its enivironment. When ecosysystems are healthy, there is no mass extinctions, genocides, and war between species. Humans are hard wired to live in cooperation not in dominating social hierarchies. Humans have always lived in egalitarian societies up until the agriculture revolution, when the societies based in agriculture dominated the egalitarian ones. Hunting them to near extinction like we have done to every species on the now destroyed planet we have today. Yes some species must maintain some very nuanced form of hierarchy but it is actually rare in healthy ecosystems. Research Robert spolasky. He did a very interesting study on baboon troops. In most mammals, social dominating hierarchy, like we see today, is a result of environmental factors.

[@FatherOMalley]

In short, the more unhealthy your ecosystem is. The more social dominating hierarchies you will see form. Behaviour is largely based on environmental factors. Scarcity produces hierarchy. Either real or perceived scarcity.

[@unknownx7252]

@Enter the Bragn’ what is the thunderbolt project?

[@unknownx7252]

@Enter the Bragn’ yea, I was looking into that and I gained somewhat of an understanding of where you're coming from. Also seems to have a lot of physics involved which is not my strong suit, but I will keep watching and studying the electric force but I think the biggest barrier would be as always been with humanity, is to let go of there superstitious beliefs or find a way to continue despite their superstitious beliefs.

[@unknownx7252]

@Enter the Bragn’ true, especially since more than have of the planet believes in some form of deity or supernatural force.

[@mableable4580]

Thank you so much, Peter Joseph!

[@icthelightatnight]

Please archive the original zeitgeist movie on blockchain and ipfs. Original version is being deleted everywhere.

[@LordRothschild666]

Deleted. That's how I found this.

[@terryautry6493]

yea that's cuz the movie lacks research about the bible and christianity. first and foremost, we as believers in YHWH are told only those of HIS spirit can only know the Word of God, not this clown. no devil can know the truth of the Word and know the meaning of scriptures. there are thousands upon thousands of ancient manuscripts from which the new testament alone is compiled. and dont get me started on the old testament. obviously this guy didnt do his home work

[@LordRothschild666]

@@terryautry6493 Bible is trash 🗑️

[@terryautry6493]

@@LordRothschild666 im gonna let that slide cuz YHWH tells us not go debate with people about it. plus JESUS tells us not to give that which is holy unto dogs

[@terryautry6493]

@@LordRothschild666 by the way, my Lord and Savior is mentioned in over 15,000 ancient manuscripts. how many is Horus and isis mentioned in? LOL

[@vasagowarlock8460]

I am glad to hear that the film is close to being finished. I know Mr. Joseph does not support politics, but Bernie Sanders is the first politician in decades who will take the baby steps needed to get to that great change you inspired in a lot of us here in the U.S.. Our great country is under tremendous stress right, Joseph and Sanders are both people who actually really care about people and the planet. Again, I thank you Mr. Joseph for continuing your fight for global change for all of us around the world.

[@globaldigitaldirectsubsidi4493]

"The fate of humanity is entirely dependent on its moral development." Albert Einstein

[@emilianolopez4289]

Exactly, the outer world needs to reflect a healthy inner world. If all aspects of human life could be imbued with constructive values...

[@globaldigitaldirectsubsidi4493]

@Marco Einstein was anti capitalist

[@globaldigitaldirectsubsidi4493]

@Enter the Bragn’ you are delusional.

[@HakuCell]

in reply to the original comment: false, if anything what's needed is a widespread debunking of morality

[@mosesrodrigues1310]

@@HakuCell A widespread debunking of morality would require the debunkers to have developed different principles of morality, which validates the original quote. Personally, I think it's a valuable quote worth sharing, considering it addresses a foundational truth that is undeniable, which allows for important conversations to happen, regardless of moral differences. To be clear, the quote can't be "false" because holds an unfalsifiable neutral position; the fate of of humanity IS completely dependent upon the morals of humanity because from our ideas of what we believe to be right and wrong dictates our actions, which determines our fate.

[@daviddreyer5817]

A New World Order of sustainabilty of ecology working togdther.

[@naturallaw1733]

we don't need Markets when we can afford them. we need Resource access points when we Need them.🌏

[@zackvanhalen]

Peter, you did enough after Zeitgeist; The Movie. In fact, you did more than anyone has ever done. If people don't get it after that, they never will. You are wasting your time. You are one of the great legends in the history of mankind. I would move on if I were you. Your effort is futile.

[@LandCruiserChronicles]

Peter is an underrated creative visionary.

[@0dq0]

Thank you!

[@davidmireles9774]

Wow, those were great answers. You're the man Peter!

[@michaelcentra2792]

How is this for a start?: A global Free Land Network. We buy up land as individuals and in groups, then draw up contracts with conditions outlining the free use and transfer of that land (except for taxes) with a stipulation that each parcel cannot be bought or sold but only transferred on a first come first served basis. And we do this at strategic points all over the globe until we've permanently removed enough land out of the capitalist system by law and by legal contract to jump start a real life Zeitgeist global community. Then we apply this principle to other other resources, i.e, housing, food, etc. Something to consider.

[@blindlemonfishbone]

michaelcentra WOW.. What a refreshingly substantive public comment!! I’ve wanted to contribute since I learned of TZM, in 2009, but I have yet to find a direction, being mainly interested in music, film, and history.

[@michaelcentra2792]

@@blindlemonfishbone Thank you...I think one advantage of this is individuals can experiment with this on a small scale since some land can be so cheap depending on what part of the globe you target. I'd also like to see TZM channel the tiny house movement with the same kind of contracts applied to providing free housing to zeitgeist participants since a lot of the tiny house movement mirrors the scaling down of our needs to more realistic and sustainable levels Peter brought up in the video.

[@livthedream91]

michaelcentra Love this concept! I’d love nothing more than some space and arable land to grow food. I’m growing food in an apartment complex, but my projects have come under destruction from my landlords (owners/investors) twice now. We will see what happens this year. So far I’m enjoying crispy green romaine, but already been told they’re gonna sod over it😡.

[@michaelcentra2792]

@@livthedream91 That sucks that the landlord is hassling you. This is not the zeitgeist solution we're all looking for, but if you ever heard of Urban Farmer (Curtis Stone) on KZbin, he has tons of videos on urban farming and specifically this one on how to find free land: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnnJaoWEpc2sa80 But getting back to jumpstarting a TZM world, food production would of course be vital so it's good to see people who are ready and planning to do their part in that area once land is made freely available. 👍 My first choice myself would probably be to pitch in on food or shelter production, taking only what I need while producing more for everyone else. Hope you find some reliable land access for your farm soon.

[@remzib]

@@michaelcentra2792 The properties do not have to be purchased if they are already owned by the individuals willing to join the network, it's kinda how we plan to roll out our Application next year, have a look, reach out, www.common-planet.org/plan

[@ZeitgeisterOm]

I am on the green party's State committee here in Maine and I'd love to have someone from the movement come and speak at our next State Convention this fall.

[@sorijin]

You could likely get Andrew Yang to show up and talk he's touring the country with his enlightened message.

[@ZeitgeisterOm]

@@sorijin thanks for the idea but I don't think it would be a good idea to invite a Democrat to a green party convention. If he would like to join our party that would be great but I don't think that's going to happen. I also don't consider him to be a progressive though yes he's campaigning on a few good things like Ubi. I don't think he fully supports medicare-for-all single-payer system. I'm more looking for a representative from Zeitgeist Movement to come and speak at our parties convention. We want to hear about the resource-based economy and how we can implement it when we hold government.

[@sorijin]

@@ZeitgeisterOm Ahh I see your goal sorry I phased right past the party thing. Yang does support medicare for all he's just not for eliminating private insurance while he takes it off the back of small businesses. Keep readin up on him imo he's most certainly the closest proximity to a segway to RBE. He talks about getting rid of GDP and replacing it with human centered metrics. I've followed TZM and Venus Project stuff for the last 15 years or so and considered it my ideal for an attainable utopia. Much love!

[@tchadcarby8439]

I agree with you 1000%

[@ItsHeebyGeeby]

Where are you guys at Zeitgeist movement during this Covid 19 crisis?

[@space.youtube]

The objective (RBE) is not nearly as contentious as the process with which to achieve it, in that no-one really has a clear path to doing so. Hence the navel gazing and hesitation. We, in the west, are victims of our own comfortable apathy, even in the face of its self inflicted demise. Change is inevitable, that we will be its beneficiaries is not.

[@sorijin]

Have you heard of Andrew Yang? I wrote to his reddit account about Peter Joseph. I wrote to Peter Joseph about Andrew Yang, their goals seem very much aligned, his attempt at a segway is Human Centered Capitalism, lot of altruism applied to his policies embracing technology into society without leaving humans in the dust.

[@ArcadianGenesis]

Peter is almost as jaded about making InterReflections as he is about the socioeconomic system.

[@HakuCell]

lul

[@BubblegumCrash332]

I forgot about it at this point?? How long has it been since he started?

[@trubblefoundit7056]

Localize and the overarching corporate regime loses power. The next step is to become self-sufficient in small communities, and develop sustainable breakaway civilizations.

[@eneldia85]

Éste tipo siempre inspirador. Saludos desde Paraguay. Y buenísimo que hable lento, o si no, cuesta seguirlo.

[@BOUZOUKI_PETE]

those in power aren't concerned about "humanity" ,Peter

[@FatherOMalley]

Circumvent power via localization. I guess that is exactly right. The dominant social hierarchies of today would crumble if our energy, and really all of our needs, were generated locally.

[@DimmerswitchDan]

Do like they did in Cheran, Mexico - kick out the politicians and police

[@ObjectiveAnalysis]

We cant generate all of our needs locally because the earth is one singular system and the resources are not spread around the globe evenly. We need globalisation (the foundational basis of RBE) not localisation aka nationalism (like we have today)

[@FatherOMalley]

I think you are confusing different terms. The zeitgeist movement is most certainly against globalization, at least in that, future societies have to be self sufficient. We can't continue truck goods around the globe. If you can't live sustainably in your ecosystem then you really shouldn't be living there in the first place. One thing the zeitgeist movement does not get into, for legal reasons I'm guessing, is the necessary need for the human species to depopulate. This is a must in order to combat climate devastation, effectively rebuild ecosystems, and to survive the Anthropocene extinction. In summary, our species' survival is depending on the human species becoming self sufficient and localized. Read the New Human Rights Movement.

[@ObjectiveAnalysis]

James Lizer no I think you’re confused bout what globalisation means. Since when does globalisation have anything to do with not being self-sufficient? And there is zero reason to depopulate the earth (which is addressed in the Zeitgeist documentaries actually) you ignorant genocidal lunatic

[@alternativeknowledge]

I wonder what peter joseph thinks of andrew yang?

[@unknownx7252]

It's funny running into you, lol, ever since learning of Andrew Yang about a month ago, I've been looking into automation, AI, ubi and a resource base economy. I think UBI will be a transitional step to a resource base economy. With human labor being replaced by robots we have to change our present economic system. Also been looking into hydroponic ways of growing my own food.

[@fberasategui]

No puedo creer que se hizo el Z Day en caba y me lo perdi.....

[@The34gl3]

has the book "the new human rights movement" been translated to portuguese?

[@sorijin]

What does Peter Joseph think of Andrew Yang?

[@matthewo2261]

Is the zeitgeist a non-profit? Can it be donated to as a tax exempt organization?

[@TZMOfficialChannel]

not anymore

[@peterjol]

Well ....You tell me ...is there ANY possible way to stop this insane system of infinite growth on a finite planet that doesn't require people to work LESS ?????? ...It absolutely MUST be made financially worthwhile for people to start sharing the work/jobs we actually do NEED people to do and work LESS. There is no other way to get people to work any LESS or to stop doing all the harmful jobs. Basic incomes won't do it.

[@raymondharvey1821]

Omg it's Peter Joseph.

[@hospie]

Parece que hubieran traducido las preguntas sobre la marcha, son jodidas

[@question3v3ryth1ng5]

I'm surprised this movement is even bothering anymore. Just spent 10 years of my life relaying this same information to people. Know what I learned? Know one gives a shit. Apparently I am a piece of shit for not hopping on vegan trends and suggesting we fix this shit from the bottom up, not just tweak small changes in the symptoms, but fuck me right? Awesome living in a world where people don't actually want a better world, they just say they do as long as it requires very little from them. We are fucked. Just sit back and watch the show, people. This problem should have been fixed so long ago. So behind the fucking curve haha

[@gninja92]

I'd love to have him sit down and have a televised talk with Michael Parenti or joe rogan.

[@myessyallyahcbssjr9618]

I aim to make south America rich. Extremely rich.

[@globaldigitaldirectsubsidi4493]

If it wasn't for that first conspiratorial movie, and addendum would have gotten the attention of the first movie, we would be somewhere else.

[@bagiee1]

I dont we would be any different than what we are now.

[@niks8892]

peter is a god.

[@albertaskateparks]

Hes cryin in this? Whats up with his voice?

[@camb546]

he sounds sick. But he might be crying... he is very passionate and aware of all of the atrocities around the world. It could just be his internal conflict and acceptance for the state of the world and the seemingly inevitable downfall. But hopefully, he's just got a cold, as weird as that sounds... because I really hope he is doing well.

[@PretentiousStuff]

it's just a cold

[@JulieMansoJEMcreative]

Hi Peter Joseph! I’m a big fan, have you heard of the Red Pill Expo? I’m a videographer who was hired to film it and I thought of you- you’d be a huge asset as a speaker for the event. Thought I’d let you know about if you haven’t heard of it. Redpillexpo.org

[@daimonik6255]

What are your thoughts on Crypto currencies? Bitcoin is king, decentralization is taking place, I would love a video on that

[@Metaphysics-for-life]

So Peter... does this mean you are voting for Andrew Yang? :-D #Yang2020.com I share the same vision for the world that you described - global distribution of decentralized creativity.

[@peterjol]

Sadly I completely disagree with the idea of a basic income..(apart from perhaps for the sick and the old) ....I think it's a terrible idea...instead of a basic income, it should be made financially worthwhile for people to start sharing the jobs we NEED people to do and work LESS. There is no such thing as a shortage of jobs there is only a shortage of people sharing the work. For every job shared you would create perfectly equal people.

[@NO-vu8pd]

What do you mean by make it "financially worthwhile for people to start sharing the jobs"? Also, I respectfully disagree with your overarching comment that there is no shortage of jobs. I recently earned a Master's in Education and have been in the field all my life. I also have licensure in student support in my state, yet I have not been able to obtain a job equal to my qualifications for over a year. The reason is absolutely a lack of job openings, fueled by the decision of the money-driven committees and boards to save costs by making fewer staff do more. And as passionate educuators, we ethically cannot refuse for the sake of so many children in need. As long as we live in a money system, the powers that be who make decisions will ALWAYS choose cost-efficiency over the caring and nurturing of humans and the environment.

[@peterjol]

of course capitalism won't like the idea of making it financially worthwhile for people to start sharing the jobs we need people to do and work LESS...but something has to change!! ...and if you give it enough thought getting people sharing the jobs we need people to do would actually be setting us up for changing to a non monetary system, it's just that it would have to start with making it financially worthwhile because regardless of what their income is almost nobody would be willing to share their job if it means they lose any money....almost everyone will say they can't live on any less money because they have taken on mortgages or debts that require the regular income they are earning. There is no such thing as a shortage of jobs there is only a shortage of people sharing the work because everyone is stuck with the insane notion that jobs must be around 40 hours or more a week. What is the point of robots and automation if we don't all get to enjoy working LESS? Nothing else would be better for putting us on the right track for transitioning to a nonmonetary system and out of this infinite growth system than people sharing the jobs we do need people to do and working LESS

[@blowera1]

#communicative

[@BubblegumCrash332]

Peter sounds like he’s got a bad cold

[@terryautry6493]

wow. i have to hand it to you, that movie you came up with to attack Christianity caught a lot of attention from people and turned them away from YHWH. but no doubt you havent done your research. sorry to burst your bubble but youre gonna have to do a lot better than that. sad that you only attack Christianity in the movie. you really need to do more research before coming up with lies about the bible and Jesus and YHWH. Beware in the last days how false prophets shall come and how they are to be under YHWHs curse for preaching another gospel.

[@kellyhowe5986]

lastcap

[@kellyhowe5986]

lastcap space on FB, that is. It's pervasive and activating.

[@myessyallyahcbssjr9618]

I am son ofvking David Joseph Josh\Jesus Gregory Jacob Cicero and Chris Brewster Smith.. I am Allah Americas.. Nice to see you again.

[@globaldigitaldirectsubsidi4493]

Localisation alone is short sighted. Peter ignores the issue of power again. What's needed is to establish global law by global direct democracy. You need global direct democracy.

[@bagiee1]

Yes... but inside a certain framework and rules.

[@mistawinta]

Democracy is inherently flawed by the fact that the ignorant can vote on matters they have no knowledge on.

[@globaldigitaldirectsubsidi4493]

@@mistawinta you are making a capitalist argument (of Madison). People just have to stop being dumb which is mostly already true for the under 30 year olds. The answer is never to decrease democracy because there is no other resolution to deal with power. So maybe you want to change that 18th century mindest.

[@bagiee1]

@@mistawinta This is what the Oligarchs have made you to believe, so they can continue with their business as usual. In the system we have now, where people are not involved in anything concerning their lives, and they dont know what is what, maybe we will have some wrong decisions... but still it will be much better than what we have today. With time...as people get involved more and more, the better decisions they will made. The many, even if there are some stupid among them, in their whole, give better directions, than any one individual, no matter how smart he may be. The many minds see from much more perspectives, than any one individual, or group of people.... and every person knows whats best for him, more than any one politician. Democracy is the Best governing system than any other we have had so far.

[@mistawinta]

@@globaldigitaldirectsubsidi4493 this is a false dichotomy. Just because I am opposed to democracy, does not mean I am pro-capitalism. Systems should be in place that benefit everyone, not that benefit someone's opinions. Also, you're not winning people over with your ad hominem attacks.