TEDxOjai - Peter Joseph - The Big Question

[@virginiepellet7262]

We need to listen to people like Peter Joseph more than ever! One of the most Brilliant Mind of our time! 7 years ago felt already like an emergency !!!!!! Today is way past Due Date !!!!!

[@ras-negusbloomfield8145]

We should not let him and the movement be forgotten.

[@nickparker1356]

Seriously its practiaclly too late sadly, unless all the big corps decide to stop burning peroleum and incorporate sustainable energy sources into their shipping and distribution of products around the world. Too much money to be made staying the same though.

[@antoniocasalduerorecuero9383]

Pellet: Yo quedé impresionado cuando vi la serie Zeitgeist hace ya como cuatro años y desde entonces he seguido sus conferencias cuando las suben a youtube.

[@pjuice2000]

Jacque fresco is the one who worked on these ideas his entire life . joseph is just regurgitating what Jacque worked on. I'm not saying thats a bad thing its bad thing that joseph is doing that, but the venus project is where i would go to understand a system like this. not joseph.

[@antoniocasalduerorecuero9383]

@@pjuice2000: I know it, but Peter Joseph was who divulged these ideas of Jacques Fresco.

[@nixtoshi]

Omg I love this. He's pointing out fundamental problems that come from an uneconomical governance embedded in both the government and the governed. Plus, he suggests logical, doable and commonsensical solutions to these problems. The only thing that holds us from Zeitgeist's reality is thinking it isn't possible and the lack of global consensus. I'm in for this, I'll work to make this real

[@shway1]

he doesn't present any solutions.

[@JB-ns6ek]

Patternicity look up the Venus Project. Peter Joseph is very good at explaining the issues bound by present society, while the Venus Project has worked towards possible solutions to these issues.

[@aerobique]

thanks david

[@Tvp247]

@@shway1 the question is "what will you do" he didn't say "I've got all the solutions." There are possible solutions that are there to activate a train of thought. Do your research.

[@shway1]

@@Tvp247 read my other comment

[@loganshotrod4x464]

Agree with him or not, there’s no dispute that his intellect is amazing

[@liannesadler5771]

Peter Joseph has "solutions" that are identical to what we would be forced to do if we do nothing and let things fall apart! At a NYC presentation Peter Joseph was challenged and promised to address the question after the lecture but fled the building instead! Peter Joseph is a COWARD and a con artist! As the leader of the movement he thinks it reasonable to fly when lesser people would not be good enough. He has publicly stated that engaging in such discussions is counter productive = he knows he has no logical defense and doesn't want the flaws of his cult mentality exposed!

[@MrVin247]

Yeah it's just to bad he's a philosopher and not a mathematician. If he could present convincing economic models based on math and not logical emotional reasoning, then.... who knows.

[@antidote7]

@@liannesadler5771 What's the question?

[@antidote7]

@OatmealCremePie he was in trading. And then there are books and realizations of what we are living. And, looking to other expert voices.

[@grantwilson213]

Disputed.

[@LoveEsoteric]

One of the *(if not the)* greatest TED Talks! This should be a mandatory viewing for all people as a necessary academic/educational lesson.

[@DaemonovEarth]

Impressive how he was able to present such amount of quality information in a short period of time.

[@MC-ig3ci]

DaemonovEarth Yes, it's fantastic how concise he was here. It just goes by a bit quickly. I hope that people who are unfamiliar with this perspective will watch the video a few times and really consider the points he's making. It's a great presentation.

[@MC-ig3ci]

Jerry Rice Hi Jerry -- We make enough food to feed everyone and then some. We make more than enough clothes and have enough housing for everyone. We also have enough water as well as the technology to make potable water in parts of the world where there is scarcity due to droughts. So, by those metrics, we are not yet overpopulated. If we could adopt more green technology so we could avoid unnecessary waste and actually focus on recycling wherever we can already do it (as well as get rid of designed/planned obsolescence) we'd be able to do a lot better. It is also important to understand that the need to maintain cyclical consumerism in the current economy is a huge waste of resources and a distorted and unhealthy use of technological efficiency. Now that's not to say that we don't have to worry about over-population at all... but--at this point--it is way more important to dispel the myth of scarcity by making people aware of what our current level of abundance actually is (as I stated above) so they understand that it's purely a failing of the monetary system and not a technical inability that makes it so many people can't get their needs met. Getting people to understand that war is the biggest waste of planetary resources is also important; we need to cease the whole system of monetary exchange so there's no longer an impetus to exploit other people and their land for monetary gain. Additionally, as people have more access to educational materials (through smartphone technology and access to the internet) we will start to see birthrates stagnate or even decline; this is already a trend in more developed, educated parts of the world where there is access to effective birth control.

[@MC-ig3ci]

+Matthew Taylor Hey there, there's no need to swear at me; that's uncalled for. I think it's important to note that I was not talking about "economic" scarcity, but about the true status of resources and our ability as a race to produce the necessities of life for people irrespective of economics, money or any traditional system. I am speaking about taking away all the fantasy and game play of capitalism and the monetary system of exchange so as to just focus on practical, technical measures and objectives. As an example: We technically have the ability to feed everyone on the planet, the last figure I read was that we produce over 2000 calories per person per day. So much goes to waste... so many people don't have access due to monetary issues.... it doesn't have to be this way. Our current system is wasteful and inefficient on several levels. Additionally, I think it's important to acknowledge that critical thinking is only part of it; another important aspect is having access to relevant information to be able to do the thinking about. It seems we're coming from very different places in that regard. So, I had actually replied to this several days ago, but now I don't see my post anymore. I had included links to articles, websites, etc and had tried to include all the pertinent information you requested. I guess someone from the site took it down ? I will try posting the links again and see what happens.

[@MC-ig3ci]

+Matthew Taylor Both of these are discussed in TZM's "Orientation Guide", which is free to read on the official website and they back up a lot of the points they discuss. Briefly, though: 1. It's actually not a big claim. If we focus JUST on getting people what they need and not just producing and producing just to fill up stores so that they are well-stocked, then there will be much less waste, hence much less resources used overall. Right now we over-produce in a lot of areas and what doesn't get used goes into landfills. There are people starving all the while food goes to waste every day because that's business as usual and a lot of people can't pay so it goes in the trash. We also don't recycle enough at all. If we would implement recycling of items wherever we could, they could go back into making products instead of being thrown out and wasted. Also, it should be well-known by now (at least it is in the tech' world and those circles) that as computer processing continues to get more powerful, less energy and less resources are necessary to get a good result. As an example: Computers from decades ago sucked up energy and were huge and very inefficient as far as how they ran and what could be done with them. Now we have much greater computational power, but it all resides in a small device (like a Smartphone or tablet). This trend of using less over time as things get more efficient can also be seen in areas of production and the service industry. I believe R. Buckminster Fuller referred to this trend as "ephemeralization"; you may want to look it up. 2. We forgo currency altogether. There would be no barter or exchange. People would be given what they need. There are electronic systems and computer algorithms that are already in place that can track resource use in any given area. We already can see what people want and use by their grocery shopping habits being tracked. There is no need to use any system of exchange anymore. If food is produced FOR the people who need it in the area where it is needed and not produced just to fill the shelves and make a store look good and well-stocked, then that will be a lot more efficient and create a lot less waste. We have the systems to make this a reality NOW, they are just being utilized for different ends.

[@mattblow8561]

+Matthew Taylor It's a ten minute presentation. His whole ideology is based on critical thinking.

[@morpheas768]

That is extremely impressive. If this was a contest, on who can make the most crucial points, present them well, explain them, in the shortest time, you sir Peter would be the undeniable victor. Incredible, well done!

[@bicyclist2]

I've been telling people for several years to watch Zeitgeist Addendum. This is just as important as the second and third movie. I do take issue with the first movie, but the second and third are great. I hope many more people see this talk. Thank you.

[@Johnamekin]

Thanks Peter for saying it like it is, and you are such an eloquent person too.

[@drpapa26]

The word "um" is not in Peter Joseph's vocabulary.

[@sheilaregan5382]

drpapa26 so true.🤔

[@zacharyjune7510]

he says "uh" a lot

[@omniomen7921]

@@zacharyjune7510 right when I saw this comment he then said 'um' three times within 10 seconds.

[@freetdg]

Maybe not, but his library of stated assumptions is beyond catalogue.

[@ewerybody]

I found a single!!! one 5:48 yet. well "A lot" is something different!

[@Enjay2kx]

Absolutely brilliant! Concise and to the point. We MUST keep the movement going as well as collaborate with all other organizations seeking change for the betterment of all humanity

[@debjayn9695]

This man is a SUPERSTAR.. A TRIPLE G GOD'S GIFT to the GLOBE as far as I am concerned If our creator experiences pride they are proud of this mans contribution. Give it up for Peter Joseph

[@4polelowpass]

Thank you Peter, for not giving up! "What will you do?" In my case, it's all about spreading this idea to as many people as possible. I do this by making simple statements, such as "If voting made any difference, it would be illegal" - or by asking simple, but unusual questions that (hopefully) makes people think before they answer, such as "do you know any politicians who has a technical education?". I plant little seeds of thought whenever possible. Sometimes they sprout.

[@felixwohmann5766]

Spot on! One of the most important Tedtalks I have seen so far

[@Ascendaeus]

I Think I'm more Aligned with This Guy Than Anyone I've Heard Speak, Ever. I'm Already On This Level That He Speaks of, I Think, With the Connection to Societal Woes Much more Powerful to me Than my Own Problems. I See Societal Problems as Bigger Issues Than Anything That Could Ever Happen to me or That I Would be Subjected to.

[@mrjonno]

Well done Peter. A high level summary of the problems that face humanity in 10 minutes. I hope this talk makes it to the main TED site, our problems are becoming more acute as long as we remain simple superstitious traders that think the world and/or its creator will provide which is the basic conclusion of where we stand today which of course is neither realistic or sustainable.

[@Tvp247]

You are a legend Peter, i wish more ppl were open to your concepts. I guess when ppl r ready, they will find you.

[@takagani]

Simplicity and generousity are the keys

[@dave3076]

8 years later and Mr Joseph has released Interreflections to share these same principles. Kudos.

[@mihailaurentiu2024]

Most underrated man alive

[@drla02]

Every time I hear PJ speak, I get inspired. Then I look at the comments below & I get amazed at how many ppl out there who cannot even try to imagine/comprehend/understand what he is talking about. It is common sense, not rocket science that one needs to use to see that PJ is correct in every sense of the word. Please ppl, for the sake of our future generations to come, try to "Imagine". It can become reality when everyone sees the light. Peace to all.

[@MrShakamuni01]

I feel what Joseph overlooks in the values wars is that many people derive their value by what they create and to many it revolves around money. How to get people to seprate themselves from such associations. In general I feel where Joseph can use help is in getting people to start to see how many emotions of self value and self love are intertwined with a monetary based system. He can move peoples logic but he needs someone to move their hearts.

[@Redat23]

It will be too late by this point. We don't have the luxury of time.

[@RifetOkic]

Well.. the next levels of entertainment, will be so advanced and eventually cheap, people would rather live in a Matrix like simulation! Connect to ultra data centers and self learning ai’s, uber simulations and fantasie’s can all be experienced. Real world will seem boring compared to that. Tech companies will inevitably grow so big and influential they’d start to take over governments, not intentionally but because the people want the tech and the companie’s want the people to connect and share to perfection the algorythms and what not. I’ll happily trade all i have and privacy for that. Just give me a bed and food and im good haha. Ofcourse i’d still want to go outside and be a normal functioning human being too. An simulation device could make us learn anything really fast. Elon Musk’s Neuralink is on its way too. The future is Bright!

[@meadowsirl]

Science and Science alone is all we need to run the planet. Peter is a well needed breath of fresh air.

[@strife2k7]

"self interest must become social interest in order for us to survive" -P. Joseph

[@Rickety3263]

Fear of God is the beginning of knowledge. -King Solomon

[@shpritzer]

personal development aside, i honestly think that this is the single most important video one can watch today (or any day)! and all in just ten minutes!

[@katherandefy]

At 6:07 he uses the word u·su·fruct ˈyo͞ozəˌfrəkt,-sə-/ noun Roman Law noun: usufruct the right to enjoy the use and advantages of another's property short of the destruction or waste of its substance.

[@jimzheng4912]

+katherandefy Thank you so much! I was looking all over the internet for this word :)

[@ClarkPotter]

+katherandefy Yes. Thank you. I was going to go look this up too but my fellow intellectual has me covered. You rock. "the right to enjoy the use and advantages of another's property short of the destruction or waste of its substance"

[@katherandefy]

¡Gracias!

[@akagainesy]

Great little lecture...... explains the problem with our current system/world in a nice simplified way. Bravo Mr Joseph it's about time you did a video like this to help people struggling to understand. Loving your work, keep it up and who knows we may actually sort this shit out.

[@TerraRubicon]

TEDx Peter Joseph 100.000 hits. #TZM #zeitgeist

[@Kojomkul5]

He has to be speaking at the main TED event at the highest level so that as many people as possible would hear his call!!!!!! Folks lets get this Speech to the highest level of TED speeches!!!!!

[@3DVizzion]

The Organism. You register, you participate and you receive. The Organism will work marvelously. This process covers everything. No exchange needed, no one supreme leader needed, no property ownership, and most certainly no tax system needed (gangsters system).

[@gninja92]

they will often say " well how is it enforced? how do you deal with dissenters

[@3DVizzion]

To place a new system is not to enforce laws, it is first to agree peacefully in a democratic way and change the procedures. You have to understand that money and property can only exist due to the underlying system which is organism to organize, structurize and achieve goals. Money and property are infact what needs to be enforced to exist, throuth intimidation, oppression, slavery, violence and than war. Money is an overburden of a system that cannot exist but only through criminal means and is not needed, property is illegal we all know that as it creates seperation and duality = war. So I do not believe that we will need to enforce anything, but agree together that criminality in any kind of way must and cannot be tolerated. This system must stop immediately, period! We will free the world from oppression meaning property, no property will be recognized nor tolerated anymore, everybody will have what he needs and wants and nobody will need what the other one has as you will have what you need fully home, food, accessibility, technology, and much much more, all diseases will be cured, will solve people with hancicaps and help them enjoy life, the blind will see, the deaf will hear, the mute will hear, you can name it, w will truly come together to achieve goals. What do we do with criminals? The law is the law, nobody is above the law, and the law is righteous, vaillant and blind, those who will rather follow criminal ways will be dealt with they will have a fair trial, be judged and punished accordingly, through a judge system that we will deem worthy and agree upon democratically. All of us that know right from wrong know that money and property is wrong. So time to stop what is wrong and do what is right!

[@RifetOkic]

Let the selflearning super computers/a.i. connected to all data do the math. That oracle of wisdom machine will reflect on what Peter is saying.

[@impsick]

Peter Joseph will go down in history as one of the great philosophers to walk this earth.

[@peterpoland]

when we change our attitude towards other people and accept them as equal, and when we have understood the goal of our lives is to improve our world, then we might as well get up the next day and start implementing the resource-based economy, where no money is needed because we love our work and we want to share it with others, not because of financial profit but rather for satisfaction we are improving our quality of life. I want everybody to be rich, happy and beautiful, not the handful of the elites, do I get it right?

[@AGirlHasNoName1.618]

...and how to you anticipate multiple cultures will magically come together to live in peace? Financial equality? Don't be naive....

[@kathrynhurn6307]

Yes, this is not just some utopian dream, this is how most people view/viewed the "American dream". With commitment and hard work, it is within our reach, but millions of working people have to want it so much that we're willing to join together and create it in our communities first, not wait or expect any change from politicians/government which would rather see us dead than allow us to prosper.

[@peterpoland]

@@kathrynhurn6307 From my observation, the world, as we know it, is heading for disaster. People of power realize that, but will never let the power go. They just don' t understand, or don't want to understand, that it is the human race that depends on the earth, not the other way round. The planet, however, will have the final word. The age of natural disasters is already unleashing it's deadly powers, in effort to wipe off the human greed. I can hear them praying "just not yet, not yet"

[@therealKINDLE]

This is so fundamental. Well done Peter.

[@loveplay1983]

aye peter joseph is one of the most intelligence and wise person i have ever seen,yet there is another guy who is named jacque freso which is also amazing old guy.

[@73quantum]

Peter Joseph is our most valued informer of truth.

[@alfonsosalgado2594]

Peter Joseph for President of the World

[@alfonsosalgado2594]

I don't believe you nothing.

[@antidote7]

Defeats the whole purpose, screw the idea of presidents, that's just accepting the old ideology of Kings and peasants..

[@MrHarveyrex23]

PJ has no political ambitions. It's not in his nature. Peter Joseph just wants to help make the world a better place to live for everyone. Free from money and drudgery. But PJ would make a great leader. He does inspire a lot of people globally.

[@agctony123]

Nop thanks...

[@antoniocasalduerorecuero9383]

Alfonso: Si Peter Joseph fuese presidente del mundo, te aseguro que la economía del planeta colapsaría en 24 horas y la gente en esas mismas 24 horas aprendería a ser feliz por primera vez en su vida.

[@kji02]

Brilliant talk. Excellent job Peter! I think the context is being formed in which people are realizing that their beliefs/values/memes are essential in determining their behavior. Hence, certain beliefs associated with the current system will deter people to consider alternative systems since their beliefs associated with the current system will not allow them to be open to new alternative systems.

[@DushyantJoshiNewZealand]

Nice! Brilliant presentation :)

[@CaptainLukeHowell]

I been listening to Peter since I was 15 and im now 20, he has changed my life perspective for the better. he has twenty times the logic of any ignorant youtube troll so anyone who hates on him needs to STFU!! and educate yourself before you go hitting the dam dislike button!

[@MrSupercoolman09]

Wow. So amazing.

[@drla02]

Very well said! Peace to you & keep spreading the word my friend.

[@betkiss]

waiting for people to change. just a comment... if you want to see the change in the world you don't wait for it to happen. You go out and do something about it... engage people in conversation, interest them, challenge there preconceived notions about what the world is like and what it could be like... Sorry if my grammar sucks, it's because i suck at grammar.

[@Kornhulio18]

Story Teller no your grandma doesn't suck...

[@throughawindowdarkly]

Clear and to the point.The truth is always very simple to tell.Governments and corporations are complicated because corrupt lies always have to be backed up with more lies on top of more lies.

[@dominikg1525]

wonderful talk I hope people will follow this ideas...

[@rpm297]

It's about time PJ did a TED talk!

[@mrfaithandphysics]

Like a scrotum, here it is in a nutshell. Watch it, share it, and explore it from top to bottom. Don't worry, it won't hurt you. But it will change you. In the best way you could ever imagine. The world I live in today is so vastly different from what it was before Joseph, Fresco, or Gamble. But it's a world that is so much closer to reality. Because while there is only ONE reality that we all must share, we can live in all kinds of different worlds. The world presented in this, an other similar presentations, is the world I always knew I wanted to live in, but didn't know how to get there. We can't change our outsides until we change our insides (mind). Then we, small in numbers, but growing, can make anything happen. "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed people can change the world; indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead, anthropologist

[@artist6696]

bloodhound gang yo

[@BRUJOatTZM]

This is just another little masterpiece from PJ. Clarity and simplicity of concepts is what this World needs. In comparison: we need scientists, not corrupt politicians or ideologies to confront the new paradigm we face. Technological evolution can help us to free from the actual slavery. We should not fear this. The risk is how the 'establishment' utilizes those advancements, but not technology itself.

[@raphdae2965]

Whenever there's a video featuring the articulated presentation of well-thought ideas, there's always plenty of comment battles perpetrated by unarticulated morons who can't even formulate well-thought ideas... but yet they criticise. Can't we just learn from Peter Joseph, retaining the good, and discarding the bad? Let's stop taking away people's credibility just because of certain things they do in a way we dislike.

[@AmateurEdits-u9m]

Agreed you can learn something new from anyone any day of the week

[@Glennie23]

THANK YOUUUUUUUU. It's thoughtless to discard a person based on one belief amongst hundreds that they hold... and yet our society makes it sooo easy to cancel perfectly good thoughts based on whose mouth it comes out of, which have been demonized by a single commenter... Is this what our species is coming to??

[@cognizantslave1296]

This guy changed my life.

[@gninja92]

the worst thing about all these presentations is that its largely the same few people who watch this and support this. if you can get movement for this from the rest of the world.while america will be the last one to implement this. but the easisets " resources" wise to make it happen. why not appeal to Asia and African countries to try and make these changes. Eastern europe as well. I feel like you it would be much easier to get supporters in countries that most easily experience the consequences of the market economy daily.

[@EllisFitz1995]

I very much agree, to be honest it's a pipe dream to ever think that this could happen in the US and Europe, it could only be implemented if less developed countries adopted a RBE then you can talk about change in the western world.

[@gninja92]

BobaNineFive it would be nice to try and do this stuff in Soth or latin america, or in Asia. Surprisingly enough though the countries that are in the best position to adopt this like USA, Japan, or Western Europe are the likely the last ones to establish this.

[@EllisFitz1995]

gninja92 completely agree, South and central America would be the first such areas to adopt a RBE with all the socialist history and culture would make a RBE more accepting and popular with the consensus.

[@gninja92]

BobaNineFive The CEo of Brazilian company Semco Partners, seems to be one of the few CEO s that would be open to this stuff, and may be willing to try and spearhead (fingers crossed), to introduce this into the corporate world.

[@gninja92]

BobaNineFive are you on facebook, or skype. I 'd like to talk about this with mroe people. i agree with on it.

[@thedriftmc]

Kudos from TZM Indonesia! Always good to see PJ talking, always on point.

[@Demonizer5134]

I remember when zeitgeist first came out in 2007. At first I dismissed it. Then later I watched a few videos alleging that it was "debunked" and "refuted". Naturally I just assumed that I guess it was debunked. Recently I re-watched the film. Honestly, I think that the majority of it true. There's some details which are questionable that people quibble over. But really, it's a solid film.

[@danpee9236]

Heya mate, I heard Peter say in an interview (i couldnt even begin to think which one) that it was a film encouraging critical thought. He doesn’t believe everything in the film..

[@stevenclark1661]

Very well thought out I agree this is a very good and prudent floorplan. Have the generation behind me bring it to fruition

[@StellarBoxer]

Peter Joseph for President! #2016

[@jsvkia1]

Austin Well that failed lel.

[@leexiong2128]

It's sad that his Ted Talk only got 140k views... Needs at least 10 million.

[@jesusisalive2]

a lot of his arguments are against the current system of corporatism (crapitalism) in which the government is in bed with businesses. Thus, the problem is not free market exchanges, but rather the idea of a 'government' that has a monopoly on the initiation of force that can borrow money and never produce anything useful. I contend that, with current technological innovations we can move to a more distributed, less coerced system of voluntary exchange (free market) in which problems of scarcity of resources can be solved by the invisible hand we have seen work in the past (and currently) at the same time leveraging personal property rights to incentivize proper use of the earth. All the while, the advances in communication via the internet and mobile apps will enable the privatization of all functions currently done by the government at a fraction of the cost and without the market interventions that are so incredibly destructive and that produce a huge misallocation of resources

[@jesusisalive2]

no. you are totally right and I'm all wrong. We should never do anything that involves individual liberty and voluntary contractual exchanges. how foolish of me.

[@PlushGrenade]

Joel Regen In this system "individual liberty" is only earned along side exuberant wealth and the flaws of voluntary contractual exchange is the point of the lecture.

[@consecratedsoul]

Lets start with anarcho-capitalism then transition to TZM.

[@PlushGrenade]

We have built answers to all our survival challenges. Money represents power, which is used to control not build. The only control humanity needs is the logistics of our finite planet's resources. This will allow us to build what we need. Not what the market needs.

[@pelatho]

It seems to me that "monetaryism" of any form cannot work, at all if it's based on scarcity, competition or assumptions like the "invisible hand" or superstitions like "free will". Doesn't matter if it's government is small, large or whatever. You're gonna have the same problems.

[@gypsymamu7561]

PETE FOR PRES! I can't wait for this old, decaying system to come crashing down and, hopefully we will recognize we have all these brilliant,compassionate,souls ready and willing to lead us! Thx TED

[@KINGMARS]

he makes no sense, should no one say ever

[@tomaalimosh]

Good thing you make a hell of a lot of sense! Say ever one no should!

[@khalkruga]

KING MARS You literally make no sense, this i definitely the worst troll effort ive ever read well done! Nice use of wikipedia as well! Sadly fools like you get to comment in public forums, the internet would be a much better place if you didnt have that freedom!

[@Kornhulio18]

KING MARS Business as usuall for you idiots, isn't it? Your world view and life-lie is shattered to the ground by Peter's core analysis of our world today. What do affected morons like you do? Denying, claiming, insulting ... what else do you have left in store?

[@MrPWNZombies]

KING MARS Wtf does that have to do with this!!

[@KINGMARS]

The world may never know.

[@GeorgePapageorgakis]

Would be nice to see a talk with Mr Varoufakis and Peter Joseph talking about the political future and the economy.

[@3DVizzion]

I guess I understand why the Earth Economic System sounds like trouble even though it only promises a better living. In fact the question that everybody wants to ask but doesn't know how is: "What is the cost of this new economy?" In another word "How will it be imposed to mankind.". The trouble in the earth system is that it sounds like we have to trust each other and be compliant. But we all know that mankind is not a compliant being. We are more driven to do things our way even when the wisest of us show us the way. Only a very few follows the way by letter. So in a world like this an earth system like this is like asking everybody to become angels and if that is not possible we directly think about Marxism there will be a group of people that will control who gets what... Even though money shows only bad, people see freedom in money. You can still be free someway from the herd with money. That is at least the feeling it gives you. But the reality is mankind needs something that guarantees that freedom. Money gives the freedom to men to be bad, or to be good. If you have such a system and we need a group of people to decide for the mass if the core is bad everything will go bad. With money or capitalism you can always free yourself. How will we value stuff. It is for many unthinkable to give something for nothing. Now to Peter Joseph you have to be able to answer those questions how is such an economy sustainable with the current philosophy of mankind, how will the earth system work. You stated what will go better but how will you make it possible? However you want to dodge it is a political question. How will you convince people to work and trust that what they do will reward them accordingly? How do you propose to do that without money? What kind of life is it? We are not talking about only a country, a city or an island. We are talking about the world. If you can answer than you will answer the core question that will motivate the world to change. I believe that is the question that we need to answer to the people who do not understand or are confused about the system we propose.

[@astud10101]

So you would prefer constant and continual war, in which human-kind murders one another until we run out of easily recoverable oil? Your biggest logical fallacy is that you have presupposed that money is real. However, "money" is fake(in a fiat currency system which is what we have globally). If you do not understand this then you really don't understand how you are being controlled through currency. Money is not a source of freedom because you can't create it and from your statement I can deduce that you don't understand who creates the money you think gives you freedom. Privately owned "central banks" create money out of thin air in a fiat currency system and has no physical backing. If you are an American you should read "The Creature from Jekyll Island : A Second Look at the Federal Reserve [G. Edward Griffin]" because you clearly do not understand why money actually makes you a slave to the people who create it. You also don't understand that we live on a planet with finite resources and our current system does NOT take this huge fact into account. So regardless of what system you prefer the current global system is going to collapse regardless of whether you or I like it or not. That is just science because infinite growth on a finite plant it impossible.

[@3DVizzion]

astud10101 I guess you do not understand the logic. And I guess you do not know wich system I prefer. You would be even surprised if I tell you this. I am the one who talk to Peter about the criminal money system and that if we are to defeat the unknown enemy we must first start by eliminating its power and that is money. Now my comment is that for many "a resource base system" seems impossible. Why? Because simply they are slaves to money, it is just like trying to bring an addict to rehab. People worldwide trust money because money is "the contract". Without the contract people have to just trust each other and not many men is willing to trust each other. So how will this system be imposed, how will it be secured and most importantly how will it work (without having to buy), how will those who work hard be rewarded and those who don't be supported? And there are actually many other questions that can arise that need answer. And money is not fake, it is a contract between two parties which adds the value of trust. How will we do without money just hand over stuff and hope that you will get your fair share. And actually there wont be less war with or without money, mankind might even have more wars without money, just think about it for a second... A world without a contract. Many wars are based on gaining resources not for the sake of money, but for the sake of supporting your country and than most certainly money will than roll on (distribution without money.) Trading makes it easier for two parties to exchange resources without it how can two parties from different countries exchange goods? Money makes trust easier. So the question that Peter should focus on answering is how will we trust the resource base economy without money? If he can answer this than we can start changing the world. Bu if this stays unanswered than we missed the point.

[@mrjonno]

Tom Bijl I agree with everything you have said. I started a TZM chapter and it was a disaster, people brought their own values and ideas along, especially religious and violent. I constantly think about this dilemma and the answer is an easy one but the solution is not - education that overcomes religious teaching and culture. As religion shows itself to be less credible and ever divisive the window will become wider to look to the answer if viewed in competitive eyes. We need to to embrace reality and narrow the gap - we really are in this together. Dogma needs to be replaced by invention through understanding - technology by science, for human furtherment. Give me 1 year of all media space and I could change the world for the better, you could too.

[@3DVizzion]

mrjonno When you attack the common sense of such people be sure to be prepared for retaliation and some times even fatal. Their beliefs is what makes them keep going. It is like telling them you live a lie their automatic response would be "you live a lie yourself". So the best thing to do is keep it neutral, it isn't about religion nor beliefs, it is about economy. Is our system economic? No! It is even worst the opposite, so if the system is doomed to fail we need to change old ways maybe even older. It is like you start a project but from the start you did it wrong, you see it but you are too lazy to change it. So you try to make it work by adding more and more lies to it but you can see that it can collapse anytime. The whole integrity of this system is in fact useless from the start, a bad idea that comes from greedy minds at the time when people were killing each other for property. Now amazingly this pile is still holding, but the piling up keeps getting worst. And most certainly men will believe that this system will stand forever but facts shows otherwise with a never ending war and crime that only keeps rising. Strike them with neutral logic, it will open their eyes.

[@mrjonno]

Tom Bijl Thank you for confirming the reality. Challenging the 'lie' is the only way to break the evil. What do you mean by 'neutral logic'? Science has been this for centuries and doing the battle against irrationality for hundreds of years. I suspect we agree but through different terminology which is a human problem in itself.

[@i.kaminskiy7563]

thank you, a really great talk

[@camolita0610]

Great Peter Joseph!

[@blgr4ev]

Please add English subtitles of this amazing video, so that I can translate it into Korean. then I can spread this lovely idea to Korean people too.

[@terasus4]

This man, kid, I should say is only 32. How in the world someone that age has such a holistic view of the world? Every time he talks, he approaches the same subject from a different angle and it blows my mind.

[@Song4Alex]

Well said Patrick. Well said.

[@heckyes]

Wow! He's really plowing through his presentation. That's probably the most PJ has ever said in 10 minutes.

[@TheMegatron111]

TED/ZEITGEIST/RESOURCE-BASED ECONOMY..Great! In 10 minutes he was able to bring out all the important problems of our absurd system. Guys make this viral!

[@TheHorizonchild]

that's the real question to ask. to answer it we must go deeper. if all thought and mind and sense of self (ego) are inextricably to an over arching systemology- a story, an archetype- then we must see that we are servants of a story. and then begin to understand ourselves and our world in that context. ask all questions from that position, as a starting point. like characters, as plot, as completed moive, as already authored book. it challenges us to question the nature of "free will" and

[@movcrit]

3 continued I was a similar idealists a couple of years back. As an Industrial Engineering student I thought about a way for society of operate without any form of currency. Unlike Peter Joseph, that means having to think about how to control the supply to meet the potential demand of the population. The roadblock comes to the issues comes to this question "how much is an individual entitled to in such a society and how is aesthetics valued?"

[@Lev_Inc]

Truth of our purpose? What do you propose that is? To learn the meaning of life? What is the meaning of life? Why? Does it need a meaning? Why? Do you need it to have a meaning? Why? Such questions have been here since we had words to form them. Fortunately, as scientific understanding grows, we grow further from the esoteric and closer to the reality.

[@thedarkfenix873]

Peter did really well here. That was a masterpiece of concision. Wonderul

[@Lev_Inc]

Truth of our purpose? What do you propose that is? To learn the meaning of life? What is the meaning of life? Why? Does it need a meaning? Why? Do you need it to have a meaning? Why? Such questions have been here since we had words to form them. Fortunately, as scientific understanding grows, we grow closer to the answers.

[@EricSmyth4Christ]

I am addicted to his voice. Still.

[@igspal]

One word...GENIUS.

[@hlqa7938]

Interreflections brought me here, dude is soooo right

[@terasus4]

Sorry, reading my own comment I see I wasn´t very clear. But I am talking about Peter Joseph. He has done about 15 lectures by now and it is very impressive the amount of angles he has to approach all this. Peace

[@Lev_Inc]

I honestly don't see what's so extraordinary about it. If you and I are at odds with one another, and constantly fight one another, we bleed out. If we help one another, we get a whole lot further. If we fight our environment, ignore the laws of nature necessary for our survival, we suffer. If we pay attention and act accordingly, things work out a lot better. Survival of the most adaptable. It's written in nature, which scientific law is based solely upon.

[@blackyblackblack505]

Self interest must become the social interest. Awesome.

[@davidtancon9975]

One of the most brilliant men in the world is speaking, and the soundguy can't even fix a simple audio problem? Oh well, I will listen and try to educate myself anyhow.

[@ConsciousEye8]

And this is exactly what Peter Joseph addresses at the end in regards to the "value war". The reason for people to accept economical equality is because it's ultimately better for everyone. Presently not everyone's values are in line with this as your words clearly demonstrate, but our values will have to align with equality if humanity hopes to survive and prosper. The real question is, why is it assumed that equality is NOT a possibility? What is the causality of the "eff you" response?

[@marlyqq847]

and i appreciate your frank answers

[@KbcBerlin]

He´s so right. I find it very hard to imagine what could possibly bring us onto the right track.Considering the past, and the mentality of the present elite or 10%, I can only imagine even more extreme versions of their creed, should extreme difficulties arise. They are believers, and will defend to, and beyond the bitter end. It has served them so well, why should the give way ? Then the next 30 -50% who believe they are on the golden escalator in support. Then 30% who hope they can get on.

[@landrumland8579]

Outstanding!! #TRUTH #PREACH Peter, you continue to get to "The Crux Of The Biscuit", if ya know what I mean...

[@CristianKirk]

Peter, you are so brave!

[@timbeecharmer]

Great talk!

[@PaulLadendorf]

Sounds great and I agree with Peter. The problem is convincing the rest of "consumers" to live by these principles. So how do you implement an earth economy? Force will never work. Personally I don't think it can happen until there is a shift in human consciousness.

[@moety2]

Yes, I agree, thats where the work and effort comes into play. Getting people to change before things get so bad there is no options left seems like it will be the downfall

[@mrjonno]

All good points, I've given a thumbs-up because I believe these are real issues that humanity faces. If only TZM was in reality what Peter Joseph argues - it can't be because there is no transition plan that the movement has and conversely it seems to be a mess with argument and disagreement with other parties using their voices too. TZM is not alone in identifying the issues that face the planet - PJ is the student of Jacques Fresco who in turn is to Buckminster-Fuller. How to transition???

[@Ultre]

His best presentation

[@HaveYourADVENTURE]

Good guy!

[@rubysmoke7150]

I like Peter Joseph'. He's rattling the cage. Putting some new ideas way out here. Try implementing one of them and see what happens. Where to start? Plant a seed and watch it grow.

[@kiriInvestigator4597]

Why isn't this catching up? Especially since it is more relevant in today's crisis???

[@criticalthinker6736]

@Wiktor Magistralis "its only appealing to lazy people.” - I don't consider myself lazy (I have a master's degree, work full time and part time, never took gov't assistance, pay full taxes, own very little property and prefer to give to others) and I find a lot of worthwhile ideas within organizations like the Zeitgeist Movement and the Venus Project. "Alot of talking and no actual action." - Well, what are your expectations for "actual action"? TZM is constantly working on several projects, from hosting conferences and talks around the world, to publishing media and resources online, to even Peter's new film trilogy seriously starting to come out soon. If you have suggestions of your own for peacefully and effectively educating the masses on NLRBE or similar ideas to help the world, then we'd like to hear them. By the way, Jacque Fresco (the founder of TVP) explicitly does not believe in utopia because there is no such thing as a "perfect" society. Humanity and civilizations have always evolved and adapted over the course of time, and the big question now is how to create a system and method of taking care of the earth and everyone on it. These ideas are certainly not perfect, but I think they are worth _trying,_ and if it weren't for our current monetary system based on exploitation and cost-efficiency over human well-being, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in now.

[@Lev_Inc]

I agree. The point is getting others to recognize that. That's half the battle.

[@jephbennett]

1. Every major positive change in history, from MLK's civil rights triumph, to Ghandi's struggles in India, to Manedla's defeat of Apartheid, were once just the passionate ideas of an isolated few, who continued speaking out despite those around them claiming they were "wasting our time". Ideas->discussion->awareness->concern->debate->demands->protest->action->struggle->conflict->change. These cyclical steps each broaden the previous step in our collective conscious, building into the next step.

[@CosmosPrivateer]

I'm glad Peter made it to Ted Talks.

[@bigjesse1985]

Metal is what is known as a conductor. Cables can run from, for example, Iceland to the nearest National Grid on the north coast of Scotland. Floating cables are simple enough to produce, and would remove the need for any sort of infrastructure. Mauna Loa to California would be a little further, but equally possible. Hydrocarbon-based power stations have low outputs, this is why there are so many. If the power station is built where the source of energy is located, infrastructure is unnecessary.

[@DrQandtheGang]

I don't need TED to approve this statement. I get it. We need it.

[@movcrit]

4 Cont. 1. Practice limitations brings up questions like what do you do with the people who do not wish to be part of the system? Can this system coexist with the capitalistic system? 2. Is it possible to optimize an entire system? This may seem easy to do in general but when you involve a system that could span the globe optimization would be highly complex. If you are really interested in this idea I suggest you and others like you to look up the field of Operations Research.

[@ConsciousEye8]

Thanks.

[@antoniocasalduerorecuero9383]

Si Peter Joseph fuese presidente del mundo, te aseguro que la economía del planeta colapsaría en 24 horas y la gente, en esas mismas 24 horas, aprendería a ser feliz por primera vez en su vida.

[@InnsmouthAdmiral]

I have been keeping up with TZM for a while. As well as TVP. But I have to say something that I have began to notice in all sorts of talks and stuff. It is very very very very very important. There is a guy in almost all public speaking audiences, or movies, or whatever place where there is a mass gathering of people. He is there. He is the one that shouts "yeah" and initiates the clapping. Who is this man? Where did he come from?