U-DRAGS: 2022 Hyundai Veloster N vs. 2022 VW Golf R | 0-60, Horsepower, U-Drag & More!

[@edmundscars]

The Veloster N has been with us for a while now, but old doesn't necessarily mean bad. Do you think the Hyundai has what it takes in this showdown against the most powerful Golf VW has ever made?

[@thulanima]

I'm sure your next match is Golf R Vs GTI if you haven't done it already 🤞🤞🫣🫣🫣

[@copperkeyracing6167]

2:35 the Golf R does not "make 30 more hp." It is rated 40hp more... if it was actually MAKING just 40hp more... due to the weight and the drivetrain loss of the Golf R AWD, they would be about even... BUT, clearly they are not. This is because the Golf R although RATED 40hp more, is actually MAKING about 100hp more. So, correctly stated, "the Golf R is rated 40hp more from the factory, but in actuality it should be rated 100hp more, because it makes 100hp more on the dyno, but because of the drivetrain loss and extra weight, it will not seem like 100hp more, but maybe just 50hp more." Furthermore, "Give the Veloster 50hp more, and they would be dead even, which can be done in the aftermarket, but we don't recommend doing that, just buy the Golf R instead if you prefer 36% more power for 30% more money. You also get the AWD, and better interior for that money." Veloster N never had a chance going into this. We all knew this... well, those that keep up with the 2 cars.

[@abundantlife4you]

Not a fair race, should have used a GTI instead of golf R

[@esoterikk1]

You guys clearly dislike Hyundai and Fanboy VW. Who puts a mk8 R up vs a 28k fwd hatch. You also somehow managed only 14s in the EN when even the worst drivers are breaking 13s on the street

[@davidpaulin]

@@esoterikk1 so damn true .. there's a guy that got his brand new elantra n and the day he took ownership he went straight to the local dragstrip, slapped on a set of slicks and crossed the quarter at 12.65@107mph

[@LordHolley]

I'm not sure who thought this would be a fun match up. The Golf R is more expensive, AWD, more power..... I mean maybe if you guys would have done a 30 mile an hour roll on it would have been somewhat fun. So what's next? 69 beetle versus a E30 M3?

[@TheLocalsOnlyPodcast]

Yeah while they're both hatchbacks they picked a completely mismatched fight. Also the "fellow kids" type editing and speaking is really cringe. This whole video is trash. Too much talking not enough specs or showing off features sporty or for dailying. There's a reason Doug DeMuro and Straight Pipes are just crushing these major publications.

[@stevend3753]

Even if they did a roll race, did you see trap speeds for them? The R was going more than 8 mph faster through the quarter. This was just a knife brought to a gun fight.

[@Youcallthesebagels_]

If it was a Elantra N vs Golf R it would be dead even from a roll

[@briandimascio3624]

Exactly what I was thinking. could’ve easily just used a gti instead of R and made a far more interesting video

[@jacobbalzer8307]

Could have atleast done a gti lmao both FWD idk why they chose golf r

[@peterkroupa4124]

Veloster N is excellent on twisty roads and relatively practical. I love mine.

[@lotsofcurveslover]

I love my DCT too, best bang for the buck. This is a dumb match up. Should have been the GTI.

[@Prime-nf5yy]

lol

[@jeffspaulding5116]

The Golf R costs 50% more than the Veloster N

[@chrism869]

And the golf r is better in every way imo

[@festo8885]

​@@chrism86950% better in every way

[@bijdikh8516]

​@@chrism869 I'd sure hope it is for that price.

[@thedadlife247]

the veloster n is the better sports car the golf r is faster but that's it. If u want a fun car to take the twisties and have fun the n. If u want a fast car that's conservative r.

[@Fatal_Inertia]

@@chrism869 Have you driven both?

[@dangrieco5184]

I love these U-Drags but this seemed like a weird comparison. Why not drag the Veloster N against the GTI. Both FWD and looking at a previous U Drag, the times would have been much closer. Either way, fun to watch. Thanks for doing these!!!

[@flyin18t]

I guess it's a compliment to the Veloster that they matched it against the R. Not sure why they wouldn't match it against it's natural fellow fwd competitor, the GTI. Everyone knew the R would pull away. That said, they should have at least balanced it out with one rolling race start.

[@scottjohnson4885]

GTI already upset all the N fan boyz with a clean win with really bad tires over the Elantra 😮

[@jamesluna162]

@@scottjohnson4885 I saw that, very unexpected!

[@nemanjalukic2422]

Correct going by the price and the fact that it's fwd it should have been matched with the gti. Vw really needs to add more power to the gti so it's competitive

[@flyin18t]

@@nemanjalukic2422 The Gti is already competitive. It's balance, handling and refinement make it a great choice in the $35k zone.....and it already beat the Elantra N in a match-up. However, most reviewers still pick the N cars as their weapon of choice due to the level of driving enjoyment. They're both amazing bangs for the buck.

[@nemanjalukic2422]

@@flyin18t the gti should really come with what most tuning companies have at stage 1. It's a hot hach and way underpowered at 220 hp. Imo they should have kept the golf at 200 , gti at 300 where the r is and the r should be bumped to 350. At least it would explain the price bump from vw. 35k for a gti open vw to a bunch of competition instead of being a clear choice.

[@beartodrift5345]

Your not making enough of these videos. Their awesome. I want to see more, with older cars would be great too. I’d watch every episode, as long as their performance cars

[@sidefx996]

THEY'RE as in THEY ARE.

[@derrickyi7433]

Why even compare these? $10000+ delta on the Golf R.

[@michaeld410]

Pro-tip on launching the N's with the DCT. Higher RPM is NOT better. You can get sub 5's to 60 with a 2600 RPM setting. Moot point here since it has no shot against the R, but I thought I would throw that out there. ;)

[@androiduberalles]

Spoilers! 😂

[@michaeld410]

The spoiler was in the video title. 🤣

[@spitfire9610]

No pro tip this was a lose lose situation AWD is to strong and it’s German

[@lexman8678]

Stop lying you idiot and making up misinformation no fwd N hyundai is getting under mid 5 seconds to 60 mph unless down a slope you fan boys are a joke

[@mandabunny]

This is a weird comparison. My husband owns an R and I own the VN. They’re soooo different, especially with AWD v FWD. They have very different strengths and weaknesses. My VN could never beat the Golf R- especially bc I got the manual and his is tuned! But even untuned DCT v DCT, the R is quicker (duh). If I want quick and some luxury- R. If I want smiles and engagement- VN.

[@FastRedPonyCar]

The R had no business being in this video against the Veloster. This should have been the Veloster vs the GTI.

[@vjd222]

The GTI woulda been a little more fair, but fun video either way.

[@L_G_Brandon]

Not the GTI , the GTI CLUBSPORT

[@kodyking3090]

Gti beat the slow ass Elantra 😂

[@L_G_Brandon]

@@kodyking3090 there is a video actually of the GTI vs the ELANTRA N

[@kodyking3090]

@@L_G_Brandon yeah and the gti spanked it idk why people think these Hyundais can compete with anything

[@L_G_Brandon]

@@kodyking3090 to be honest that Hyundai is pretty quick but is more a direct competitor for the GTI CLUBSPORT and the fact that the regular GTI with summer tires won that race is incredible. I do have a GTI RABBIT EDITION and I’m in love with that car

[@malcolmar]

The level of performance of today's hot hatches is just mind-blowing. They are throwing down numbers that were only reserved not too long ago for supercars and you throw in the fact the hot hatches are less money, more practical, and have great reliability when compared to those older supercars. Now that is progress! Between these 2 give me that Veloster N in blue and with a 6-speed manual and I will call it a day. The Golf R is a pocket rocket but for me, driver involvement trumps top-end speed. Being the last of its kind I see the Veloster N with the manual becoming a future classic. It reminds me so much of my old Honda CRX which I loved. Keep up the great work!

[@ak2112]

Lets see manual GR86 vs manual Veloster/Elantra N

[@44actual]

Done that in my VN against a friend with a 22 BRZ. The VN dominates in a straight line but the twins own the corners.

[@michaeln.7083]

Don't you think the golf gti would be a better comparison? 🤔

[@IEatYouBabies]

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[@cj41079]

was going to say lol

[@michaeln.7083]

@@cj41079 I get the slight weight difference but AWD is gonna leave on the luanch atleast stock vehicles

[@Stan063]

They did GTI and Elantra N before.

[@bryzeer5075]

The N is the highest trim level. The R is rhe highest trim level.

[@thegreeneyej]

Love, love U-Drags! More please! Can we have some more?

[@Blas4ublasphemy]

agreed

[@mofomoco]

I like the old host better. Sorry. Not sorry.

[@MuzikM_85]

I find the current host's voice annoying.

[@ThatWhiteGLI]

Even the GTI is faster on the U drag at 38.5 than the Veloster

[@Fitforacting]

He should have used the boost twice!

[@elizabethmichelle6390]

My MK7 Golf can hear me fangirling about how bad I need a Golf R 😂

[@CTF33]

Great comparison, a drag race between a FWD and an AWD with 40 more hp that cost $10k more. Keep up the good work guys, next comparison should be a drag race between a GR Corolla and a Prius. Tip for next time - VN vs. GTI, both hatches, both DCT, both FWD, and same price range.

[@iaretheone11]

It would still be the same as the R vs VN. VN has more horse power and torque than the GTI. The VN is in a weird spot by itself not powerful enough but close enough to go against the big boys and is too much for lower level competition (which is why they always always make it go up against the better competition)

[@davothegreat9990]

Gti already beat the Elantra n on this channel.

[@iaretheone11]

@@davothegreat9990 u mean when it barely beat the EN. GTI is a small hatchback. EN is a sedan.

[@davothegreat9990]

@@iaretheone11 won twice by two different drivers. Gti is just the better car.

[@scottjohnson4885]

The GTI won with 225 all season tires vs 245 ps4s…weight is almost the same….pops n bangs are cool though 😊🎉

[@99-Zulu]

Whats the interval to use the NGS boost function? Can you use the NGS right from the get go then say on the way back can you use that again? Assuming you don't roast the tires on the launch. Or do you have to wait a certain amount of time like 5 minutes before using the NGS button again?

[@VPoje]

It's 20sec duration and 2min cooldown. The best way to use it for drag is to punch it when the car shift into 2nd, to avoid too much wheel spin.

[@DownshiftPass]

I say this with ALL due respect to the Hyundai, because N models are becoming legendary... but this race made zero sense. 🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴

[@roguedogx]

quick question if you add a solomon to the way back of both runs, does that mean the race track is "twin bobby pins?" I know that adds nothing, but I thought of it, and could not let it go to waste.

[@ayrtonstraccia]

I would honestly love a VW MK8 Golf R vs the 2019 Model just to see how quick it is. Please would love for you guys to make it happen

[@mikeburton8426]

Yes, a good idea. Even better if it was set up like a real world red light race. I feel like with the new one you would be like “ heck yeah lets race but can you just give me few minutes to remember all the buttons I need to select. I think the 2019 wins that one.

[@dhrudry1]

Oh wow!!! More HP/Torque with AWD - Vs - Less HP/Torque with FWD… Jeez who thought of this battle? And the audacity to use that thumbnail… tisk tisk

[@JCTiggs1]

2:03 FYI there's a shortcut for traction control (pull down and tap) that skips all those extra menu selections.

[@J.Wick.]

This series is excellent. Please keep them coming. Great format here. Possibly even some retro would be nice as well.

[@jeffsiemens4485]

Probably best to use NGS at the start, but still wouldn’t make up for the difference. The R is a beast. Veloster n owner here.

[@SChapps]

The mk8 Golf Rs dyno at about 330-340bhp, whereas the Veloster N dyno a bit less than the claimed figure. So realistically the difference in power is at least 60bhp, combine that with AWD and it was obvious what would happen

[@USMC062999]

This was such a ridiculous race. AWD vs FWD $10k price difference between the 2. The race should have been GTI vs Veloster N but then the Korean would have beat the German and your sponsor VW wouldn't like that.

[@JamesJamieson007]

Is there a leaderboard to compare all the cars tested so far?

[@revengefullobster4524]

12.8 in the quarter is very respectable, but these cars are not really in the same class, other than both are hatches.

[@bryzeer5075]

The N is the highest trim level. The R is the highest trim level.

[@esoterikk1]

@@bryzeer5075 they are 10-15k apart dunce. Let me put that golf R up against a M2C and we'll see how far it gets 😂

[@bryzeer5075]

@@esoterikk1 Try and stay in the same class. The N vs R makes more sense you dunce because both are turbo 4's.

[@ymlccc]

I honestly don't get the whole point of this race. The only thing they are similar is they are both hatchbacks and that's all. The rest? Golf R will pretty much murder V-N in any race.... Elantra N vs Veloster N will be fairer...

[@Kamukix]

They did the Elantra N vs the GTi and the GTi won...so other than just wanting to get literally anything on camera, I cannot find a good reason why this 'race' ever happened. Definitely a weird one.

[@edvinassarulis7526]

Came here after hearing comparison between corolla GR and veloster N. As fan of VW group checked how good veloster against at least golf R, didnt mention RS3. And then found this channel, done better than my expectations to find!

[@zapzap562]

Liked, subscribed, and commented. Keep the U-DRAGS coming!!

[@killfox101]

I've seen stock new Golf Rs dyno'd and they are extremely under spec'd as compared to what they actually put out. Looks closer to 340hp-350hp stock compared to the 315hp it's advertised at so literally no surprise here.

[@Spiritcr1jsher]

No , 315hp is exactly where it should be . It has awd and launch control. The germans are good at pairing a transmission with an engine, that is why they seem more powerful than they are .

[@kraenk12]

Exactly. It’s what the numbers tell already.

[@kraenk12]

@@Spiritcr1jsher You didn’t understand. VW does severely underrate the R. It really has 350hp not 315.

[@Spiritcr1jsher]

@kraenk12 no it doesnt have 350 . It traps 111mph with awd and auto. Exactly where it should be . The 6speed traps 107mph and does 13.4 . A 2010 mustang gt with 315hp and a 5speed manual, rwd did about the same and was about the same weight.

[@luvmyGolfR]

@@kraenk12 umm my 2019 golf R put down 279 ish whp . they say its 292 crank they are more than 315 .

[@alejandrocandelario2966]

Not a fair comparison.

[@mharro88]

It's not worth the extra amount over a Elantra n for example

[@wbwayne8887]

Next U-Drag has got to be C8 Z06 vs Porsche GT3. That would be epic.

[@chrism869]

Yes please

[@JetskiMike]

Could have just put it against the regular GTI to make this more even

[@williambellisIII]

You simply can’t launch a FWD car well, making this semi pointless. I’d love to see them on a road course.

[@ALMX5DP]

Autocross both are classed the same and I think both compete fairly evenly.

[@two_broberni7233]

I saw a guy driving both and he was doing better with the veloster N lapping golf r was slower

[@williambellisIII]

@@ALMX5DP Autocross is much different than this, including being a bit less launch dependent.

[@ALMX5DP]

@@williambellisIII I know, you just mentioned wanting to see them on a road course I thought to suggest an environment they’d be more on equal footing at, so I just suggested autocross as such an environment where they do compete pretty fairly.

[@williambellisIII]

@@ALMX5DP Fair enough.

[@devn3813]

The veloster N has been canceled and there is not a single Golf R for sale in the country on any car website.

[@pinchers1]

u-drag has to be the ultimate way to do dragraces , like she said all in one

[@Kiss__Kiss]

This video should really be called "NR" (For Hyundai "N" and VW "R") for "No Race." Meaning, it was doomed from the get go. lol

[@PKDesigns2011]

kool match up went about as expected lol, ty for sharing ... please do more of these it was fun watching ... btw both engineers over complicated the launch mode in these...

[@alexrussell8891]

U-drags is such a great idea! But this car line up is not too impressive..

[@PKDesigns2011]

it's a random selection ... about as fair as you see pulling up on a red light next to you ;)

[@theodoregibbons4615]

This is a bogus comparison. The VW has a 30 to 40 hp and torque advantage over the Hyundai.

[@jamesbispo391]

Who at edmunds thought this was a good matchup 🤦‍♂️.. why didn’t they race a GTI instead of a golf R for a much fairer comparison ?

[@someguy2773]

The Veloster N is quicker than GTI

[@Mav86asian]

@@someguy2773no it isn’t. LOL. U drag time for GTI is 38.5secs.

[@saajidkadia3545]

Why didn't you put the golf in race?

[@stevenr6279]

The VW 10 grand price difference has to produce a gain. However, the N is where its at, just a superb machine well sorted for fun.

[@bacchus003]

What was this not against the GTI?

[@thegrimmer]

This was obvious, but your opening shots keep giving away the results

[@dirkdesouza5975]

Guys, you have a quick short cut pull down from top of the screen and you can turn off the traction there.

[@vinckokeccee1352]

Get the new Nissan Z against that golf R

[@teddiesasmita]

Golf R vs Corolla GR86.

[@jonbzo4]

Golf R vs Corolla GR

[@usonumabeach300]

Would like to see N vs N with MvM or DCT v DCT

[@Jackson-son]

That golf r doesn't have less than 340whp so the comparison isn't fair to Veloster

[@vancouversn6541]

I think a rolling race would be a little bit more fair as we know AWD will take FWD any day from a launch

[@JorgeMartinez-iq2tc]

They discontinued the Veloster N like two months ago. They should have waited for the civic type are and due a 3 way shootout to compare older front wheel drive to new and all wheel drive

[@mqbr22]

As a MK8 R owner I don’t get what’s supposed to be close or fun about this race? The results are pretty obvious

[@EmperorEdwardXIII]

I like Lauren she is cool; I love my veloster N in the track - I get so much fun! Most people can't believe is a Hyundai. Though mine is Manual - but the rev matching and slip differencial let me race as hard as possible I have hit 1.25 G (I drive at Waterford Hills Race track - Current lap time - 1:24) however I SUCK SO BAD IN A STOP START RACE In a rolling start is awesome but MAAAAN its haaaard to launch

[@Davidzc0]

I'd be interested In a manual golf r vs a dct veloster. See if the shift times could make up some of the difference. Not apples to apples but neither is this comparison. Would be intersting.

[@tsenif]

People fail to see the point of this video. At this point in time, the Veloster N was the top dog hot hatch that Hyundai makes. At this same point in time, the Golf R was the top dog hot hatch that Volkswagen makes. That is THE POINT of the video. Even if the Golf R costs more & makes more power, the point is that these were their most powerful compared head-head, naturally, the more powerful car (Golf R) would obviously win. If Hyundai made an AWD hot-hatch, then they would be compared.

[@MRDARRENGER]

😂😂😂 And he didn't even have the Golf R set up ideally in Race Mode with ESC Sport!

[@stevend3753]

I like this series. But this was ridiculously mismatched.

[@mistamaog]

What if the Veloster was compared with the GTI, and the Golf R compared with the GR Corolla

[@toxsin2207]

Almost pointless to do these challenges when you're clearly pitting 1 car that has the distinct advantage in every department over another car that has no advantage at all.

[@Mrbrown5714]

One of the biggest weakness of FWD is off the line

[@Slowwagonftl]

Y’all are so mad in the comments, but this is just “best performing hatchbacks from Hyundai and VW”, the GTI is up to the N’s level and the Golf R is beyond the N’s. Blame Hyundai for making a tweener in the class… and considering the civic type r and Veloster N with the DCT are neck and neck, this isn’t that strange of a comparison

[@plk_nickk]

for about $17K more. Don"t get me wrong great car but CAN NOT argue with veloster for the price. yes i'm a veloster owner but still

[@soothingrelaxingmeditation3129]

high horsepower front wheel drives are not a smoking deal for the money.

[@dannygaldamez7616]

I wanna see the golf r vs gr Corolla. This one should be a better race since both awd

[@rileyhance318]

the standard mk8 gti in the other video they made did the test in 38.5 sec so the veloster n at its best time of 39.3 likely still would have come behind

[@user-kj5cp8ur8z]

Why didn’t you race the Veloster against the GTI? This is like racing a civic si against a type r.

[@carloscanizares101]

When’s the Ferrari 812 vs WRX race?

[@jagayong9333]

Golf GTI vs the Veloster (FWD vs FWD) would have been much fairer match, this was like comparing an apple and an orange.

[@Spiritcr1jsher]

The best hatch from each company. They already compared the gti and it was still faster in every way and less money than the hyundai

[@chrism869]

No suprises here, its just not even close, the golf r mk8 is the best top of the line hot hatch

[@gwaddles]

I want to see Lauren McCay drive

[@malibongwentushelo3342]

This is not a fair race ..! A 4WD against a 2WD atleast they should race a Golf Gti (FWD) against a Veloster also a (FWD).

[@TheFunkyair]

Golf R is real life king in the world GTI must be here

[@Accurize2]

How do they not know a stock Golf R is very underrated as far as HP? Dynos on stock R’s are throwing down 330-340 at the wheels. 😂 Keep lazily regurgitating those manufacturing talking points I guess. 🤷‍♂️

[@commentmancommentman1658]

the corolla gr lapped bettwr than the golf R at throttle house course so

[@bosemanracing3800]

This is not a even matchup in a drag race. Veloster is not a drag car. On the track it would be a different story.

[@thegreeneyej]

Let’s see the Toyota Supra vs the Nissan Z when they’re available!

[@scottroberts5529]

You should do the new Mazda 3 wth the turbo vs the Golf R

[@CTF33]

The Mazda 3T is slow AF. Less HP than the N.

[@vroomgc]

@@CTF33 Totally agree !

[@safwanghrayib8289]

Try with tesla model 3 performance 🙏 please

[@thambi10]

Not fair competition. Should have been gti vs veloster.

[@RcCrawlerGuy]

LOL! if they thought the Veloster N was going to win against a AWD with like 30 more hp they are cray cray.

[@ConemantheBarbarian]

Wrong wheel drive against four wheel drive? The result is a given……

[@jet_black]

Sometimes you have to remind Hyundai they are in fact a shit box.

[@edmilsonteixeira4793]

Why you put the golf 8 r in sport mode? 😂😂😂 why you don't put in the dyno mode (nurburing)??? You not pro man

[@1badcisco]

What an unfair contest How about trying it with more equally fitted out cars instead.

[@D4RKxHOR1ZoN]

I would never take a Hyundai seriously lol. I almost purchased a Elantra N but I drove it and it felt like it was going break.

[@slamminx3]

You should've put it in Race mode and not sport.

[@romero1337]

Lets see Golf R vs M240i or S3!

[@gati54uri094]

I have to say that Veloster is a good hot hatch but NEVER be equal to golf R. Sorry about rest of hot hatch's!!

[@Tech-Kino2685]

Usually some of the drag videos are OK But this was horrible it was completely obvious what was going to happen these cars are not comparable you guys could of got a gti but no you choose car that bullies the other car hard what's next a Bugatti vs a brz ?!

[@audiwankenobi361]

Love this style of drag racing but the whole video could have been about Lauren to great success I think.

[@seannomoney20]

this video was pretty bad but to make up you can do a gt500 and a zl1 and see which one will win