U.S. Fast Charging Network Growing Fast; New Toyota Camry Goes Hybrid Only - Autoline Daily 3793

[@pnketia]

So US automakers are upset that the Chinese automakers are planning to build factories in Mexico to make cars and then ship them to the USA? But isn't that what the big 3 automakers are doing right now?????? Many US cars are built in Mexico using cheap labor and then shipped and sold in the USA. Sounds like the US automakers are scared of Chinese competition when the field is leveled.

[@BTC_Minarchist]

In a nutshell, yep

[@AssistantToTheHNIC]

🎯

[@wt9653]

All 3 OEMS operate in China. But, the OEMS don't want to invite them to play in their backyard 😂

[@BTC_Minarchist]

@@wt9653 China invited and encouraged Europe and US OEMs into partnerships in China decades ago... To steal tech and manufacturing processes. Now, they have taken all they need and now they are coming. US and European OEMs were fine when they were making a profit from Chinese subsidies. They've gave up their advantage to make a buck and those that profited are long retired or near retirement. 🤷

[@stickynorth]

Bingo! Last desperate sign of a loser is when they try to actively block competition... Case in point! Just for that American cars will continue to be embargoed in my house permanently!

[@golfish8589]

Still no charging in northern Minnesota. Where many pull their boats or atvs or snowmobiles every weekend. Up through International Falls is how we get to Canada

[@JoeyBlogs007]

If you build it, they will come. Field of dreams.

[@Thatdavemarsh]

3:18 as someone who had the opportunity to drive a hummer EV for a week for work, I can tell you that connecting it to a 7.2 kW charger like in the video is almost a folly. It’s better than nothing, but the hummer with 200kWh of battery wants a min of 50kW to make any sense of your charging time. I drove 1100 km with no overnight charging access and explored the meager options in southern Ontario. I got shafted by the two biggest chargers I could find (100kW) from two separate vendors. I was lucky a 50kW unit near me was reliable and could start and finish my day using it. The best charging rate I ever got was 66 kW - and that was disappointing. The truck was great - just learning to charge was a pitA.

[@xspeed6291]

The only reason the US automakers would be scared is it will force them to make lower priced cars and hurt their bottom lines. They love their overpriced cars

[@scottvickery2057]

So will the next Rav4 be like the Camry..hybrid only?

[@InternetDude]

It’s possible

[@JD-yx7be]

almost guaranteed, in fact it is likely we are on the last generation of gas only for all the other toyota/lexus vehicles

[@stanadams3886]

I noticed in the segment about Toyota hybrids that Toyota has changed their hybrid vehicle badging from “Hybrid” to “HEV”. After years of the “Hybrid” badging on their vehicles my first thought was Toyota wanted to get “EV” on their vehicles in one way or another. Maybe it’s just a clarification. Yeah.

[@edornelas8275]

It’s just a ploy to meet regulation & appear they are compliant since they stated hybrids are a way the industry should adopt. They have now been selling only hybrids of certain vehicle to promote false narratives. Clever old tactic

[@MikesCarInfo]

I drove the new RAM Promaster EV and it was impressive and fun to drive.

[@firefox39693]

I'd rather the Camry hybrid be a plug-in hybrid instead.

[@JoeyBlogs007]

In reference to EV charge stations, if you have charging stations networked and talking to each other, they could optimize multi vehicle charging prioritisation. These charge stations could then advise drivers in their cars, based on their current charge and vehicle range, where the next charging stations are located along their journey to complete their charge. This could help avoid bottle necks at charging stations and allow vehicles with a lower charge state faster access to the charging station, so they can complete their journey as soon as possible. If that makes sense. Thus if say there are two vehicles with one waiting and the one that's charging has been charged sufficiently, it could limit the charge time for that vehicle and advise it to move on, so that the vehicle behind it in a lower state of charge, can be recharged sooner to the required level to allow it to complete its journey allowing enough range for alternate charge station visits along their route also.

[@Tokamak3.1415]

Tesla does this currently. The vehicle will also recommended whether it would be faster to go to another SC along your route if it would decrease wait times for potential queues. I talked to an EVGo rep a while back and they said they have plans to implement that feature in the future but not until 2nd gen EVs that communicate that data back to a requisition server. EA has no such implementation.

[@johnpublicprofile6261]

Yep, just buy a Tesla - already done.

[@holycrapchris]

7:38: They say that could cause a flood of low-cost EVs entering the market that could.... --help struggling car buyers--

[@DishNetworkDealerNEO]

Is Ford including the cost of in warranty repair charges in their costing of making a Battery Electric Vehicle?

[@johnbronco8678]

How many charging stations have been built with that $5B?

[@Agent77X]

None yet! The administration is deciding on who they want to give the money to and it is not going to the SuperCharging Network!😮

[@martyweirick9846]

Very little of the NEVI money has been spent to date. The spending has been delegated to each state, and many states have moved slowly to advance plans. Each state has probably hired a consultant or two to help navigate this new federal program. Does anyone know of any independent news group that is following the planning, construction and startup of the charging stations in each state. Some news reports state there have been only a handful of stations energized, while dozens are likely to be currently under construction and hundreds (or thousands) are likely in the design and permitting stages.

[@davewhite113]

I think the current number is 8, they've spent $120,000 so far.All in one place.

[@tomofnorthcal]

Great more charging stations, BUT the charging stations are serviced as well as gas stations in my experience in SF Bay the origin of EVs. Strangely ironic it is.

[@P.Galore]

We need a $7500 installed EV conversion kit for older cars.

[@playbak]

That EO8 van is literally a lexus in front and volvo in the rear lol

[@edbardoe2195]

300 miles is the usual distance between 10 minute gas stops, how long to add 300 miles if you find a fast charger?

[@JD-yx7be]

Depends on each ev. The Porsche taycan can do it in 20 minutes, but most EVs will take 30-50 minutes to get 300 miles if it even has enough battery for 300 miles range

[@CSHarvey]

300 miles of driving is also about 5 hours at speed limit. Most people would be stopping for a bio break or meal by 4hrs.

[@ChitFromChinola]

Do you guys really drive 4-5 hrs without stopping? Too boring for me. I only go 2 hr, maybe 3, and I’m glad to take a break. Longer than that is brain-drain. A 20-30 minute charging time is a nice break for me - guilt-free hangout time. As a bonus, you're not at a dirty, stinky gas station listening to your wife complain about the filthy bathrooms.

[@edornelas8275]

Has anyone been to a Costco or Sam’s gas station with large color pumps? It takes longer than 10 minutes to pump toxic benzene enriched gasoline! It’s 20-30 minutes to go thru line! Gas in Ca is over $4 (actually $5 in most S Ca)! I’ll keep my Tesla & watch uTube while filling up electrons.

[@gmv0553]

All three of my vehicles will go 400 miles plus before I have to stop for gas. The ev I will be buying will go 600 miles before needing a charge.

[@AuralioCabal-nl8gi]

@ Start of this vlog, Here is hoping that Rivian markets it's Amazon Van to the public,many will buy that Van and could save the company, going forward.

[@ZappyOh]

Fast charging is needed for the AI-controlled enforcer robots. Not kidding.

[@BTC_Minarchist]

This is likely a fact 😮

[@CSHarvey]

Just like all the donuts shops for the biological enforcer drones now.

[@Withnail1969]

The grid can support very little extra demand, let alone chargers that each need enough power for 50 homes

[@BTC_Minarchist]

@@Withnail1969 so they've been saying, yet... No problems 🤷

[@Withnail1969]

@@BTC_MinarchistMaths doesnt lie

[@CSHarvey]

US Automakers are afraid of Chinese EVs undercutting the market. Kind of like how Japanese. Autos undercut the auto market in the early 80s. Who could have ever seen that coming?

[@AuralioCabal-nl8gi]

That Exceed Van; Chery not too long ago made cheap and disposable cars, having seen a few of their models in the Philippine market I am impressed that they do look like Toyota Rav4 and Fortuners/ In nova cars easily a 3rd more in $$$$ cost

[@RAZ423]

When are you changing the name to EVline Daily?

[@replica1052]

(all supliers can export to mexico - people migrate for jobs, building plants in mexico will reduce immigration )

[@jacoblf]

this entire report is out of context. this q1 matches trends of every q1 for the last 2 decades. about gMaps: you don't drive an ev, do you. you'd know that that's built in to the cars routing system, it's pointless.

[@CSHarvey]

Hi, I drive an EV, and Google maps from.my phone IS the navigation system. But then I've been using Plugshare for this functionality for the past 4 years.

[@onenickthomas]

1:00 My question is, who gets the 'credit" for E-Transits? Ford Pro, or Ford Model-E?

[@LostVillageIdiot]

20 Chinese automakers are selling cars in Mexico?? I think I smell the coffee!

[@glennbeattie6172]

They tried (autoline). The charger numbers are very old.

[@BTC_Minarchist]

For AHH, you can nix Gary V and the Bloomberg dude. Both will surely detract from the conversation. Just the real experts and John as the facilitator, please!!!

[@bobbbobb4663]

Sorry I'm not available today!

[@BTC_Minarchist]

@@bobbbobb4663 actually, I would watch f you were on. It would be entertaining. Are you an engineer /SW engineer by profession, or would y you be winging it?

[@bobbbobb4663]

@@BTC_Minarchist Yes (degreed) and I've previously worked in automotive.

[@BTC_Minarchist]

@@bobbbobb4663 I could tell by some of your comments. Now, I definitely think you should be on the panel. Please contact Sean! 😂

[@rotaryenginepete]

agreed, ditch the village idiots (and add Sandy Munro to the ban list)

[@s.vancourt9541]

RE: charging infrastructure: I wouldn't exactly characterize 7.6% growth as "quickly expanding." A brand new facility in our area opened with 12 chargers...and 100 gas pumps.

[@JD-yx7be]

That is a pretty good ratio for now. EVs only represent 7% of new car sales and a station having 12% of fueling option being a charger is pretty good. I wonder how many small gas station closed to have the business for a 100 pump gas station either that or a large population growth in the area, because ice vehicle sales peaked in 2018 and the newest ice vehicles are more fuel efficient too

[@stickynorth]

So the US is now actively campaigning against EV's? Fuck that noise!

[@Agent77X]

The news media and auto influencers are turning 180 degrees saying hybrids are the way to go to be environmentally friendly and combat climate change😂! LOL! The environmental activists are stay silent in this new hybrid push!😮 Total flip flop!😮

[@Pernection]

Yes we are!

[@billybobbob3003]

FVCK EV!

[@AllanSustainabilityFan]

Not the US, just our legacy corpa media, they rely heavily on legacy sponsors for revenue. It's legacy auto desparation on display. For example spinning slower EV growth as a bigger problem than ICE's negative growth somehow. Think of the positive though: This is old players signalling they have trouble catching up, and are retreating to hybrids. Short-term gain for long-term disaster for many such laggards. This means great opportunity for smart investors to capitalize on that short-term minded thinking in the golden parachute suites and stock analysis paper mills. It doesn't affect the market leaders, they continue to grow their position into this competition vacuum, and are positioned well to capitalize on the rapidly falling costs while legacies stagnate on achieving similar efficiency.

[@anydaynow01]

Not so much the US, it's the UAW trying to justify their jobs and their lobbyists steering politicians.

[@RayNLA]

They forgot to add all the charging stations at every home in America!

[@davidmccarthy6061]

Those are private and shouldn't be counted for any metric.

[@rotaryenginepete]

lol they said FAST chargers. A hummer EV can take up to 2 days to fully charge at home

[@lemongavine]

@@rotaryenginepete 2 days from 0 to 100% but you can still top-up and recharge your commute overnight.

[@ethanwelner1230]

I live in the second story of a building and park on the street. Am I supposed to throw a cable out of my window?

[@Tokamak3.1415]

@@davidmccarthy6061 On Plushare there are people who share their L2 chargers with the public for fixed electricity rates. I've never had need for it but electricity is very much ubiquitous with roads.

[@chang-kp9sp]

The charging network is growing but many of them are unreliable.

[@JD-yx7be]

Euro 6 emissions go into effect in july 2025 which brings diesel nox emissions down 1/3, this will likely put diesels on life support

[@taurussel]

The report on commercial electric vehicles notes the savings of gas and maintenance over ICE vehicles, but fails to mention what the cost of ownership of EVs. I’ve seen other reports that says EVs are more expensive to own. And what is initial cost of those EVs? I don’t think that’s an objective report.

[@JD-yx7be]

it is in between the price of a gas and a diesel van. The high cost of ownership is almost exclusively a tesla and their poor quality thing. Their gas vans have a 5 year 60 mile warranty the e transit has a 8 year 100k warranty

[@edornelas8275]

It is apparent you haven’t driven a Tesla or own one. Thus is basic FUD. I have had my Tesla since new for 6 years & has been one of the best cars I have owned either very low maintenance. High cost is insurance, registration in CA, & tires last me an average of 45k. I charge at home for 90% of time & low cost. Trips are easy with Supercharger network system. I do not plan on ever owning a gas car again. Now a truck may be a Gas one for now.

[@taurussel]

@@edornelas8275 well I’m glad your experience has been positive. And I have not driven or owned any electric vehicles. But I have done research, and there seems to be a divide when it comes to experiences. But can tell you that I live in the country, and there is not a charger within 50 miles of my home. And I’ve lots of stories about people driving from Michigan to Florida in an EV, and were very stressed about being stranded. Few and broken chargers presented a big challenge. My next door neighbor was stranded twice in his Nissan leaf because there were no chargers between work and home. Between that and the cost of the vehicles themselves, I’ll say no thank you for now.

[@JD-yx7be]

@@edornelas8275 I have been a passenger in an earlier model 3, very fast car even tho it was only the medium spec'd trim. Tesla has by far the best charging network in ease of use and reliability. They cut so many corners in their production vehicles to be leading edge that they just not reliable and you can't just go to autozone and get parts for

[@joshausterlitz3798]

Its so interesting to see the difference between commercial and private EV repair prices, i would love to see a complete breakdown of what they actually pay, because being in he towing industry, i'm seeing alot of owners trading/selling/abandoning their EVs at a rapid rate because of how much it costs when a main battery dies, drive motors break or body damage going over what the car is worth new. What is happing that's so different i wonder between the 2. Wonder if most all these commercial EVs are being leased and we're not seeing the full picture here.

[@anthonygray333]

I said this so many times I can do it in my sleep. The government should have first subsidized commercial EV fleets where it fits. Places with limited range requirements like bus fleets, garbage trucks, delivery vans etc. That would have had a direct business benefit and they could have done a lot of the beta testing. Instead we are still trying to dump onto the personal use market with its vastly different use patterns. This would have slowed the need for rechargers as the commercial entities would plug in “at home”. This would have bought a few years to allow battery technology to improve to allow for the range and short recharge time we all need. As it is we have electric cars that in many cases replace highly efficient hybrids with a minimal net cut in oil consumption while diesel short haul trucks are all over the place.

[@briannewman6216]

Once the Mexican Giga factory starts production in Mexico it will be hard to stop the Chinese auto companies following suit. The US legacy auto makers with their unions will find it very hard to compete with the Mexican made cars. GM will probably go bankrupt again while Ford no longer makes cars in the US. The transplants will probably close any plants that the UAW succeeds in unionising.

[@gmv0553]

There will be tariffs on Chinese vehicles coming into the US just like Chinia does for vehicles made in the US that go to Chinia with 8 cylinder engines.

[@vivekpraseed918]

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[@AuralioCabal-nl8gi]

Please dont tell the public EVs are cheap to run! ICE and Legacy Fossil fuel auto sales are going to tank!

[@Withnail1969]

Surge price charging for electricity likely soon in the UK and power rationing in the Netherlands. There's no spare power for these things in Europe.

[@CSHarvey]

Weirdly, power generation companies make their money by selling power, so increased demand means an opportunity to deploy more generation capacity and earn more revenue.

[@Withnail1969]

@@CSHarvey if the fuel and transformer steel are available which they aren't. do you see any signs of dozens of huge power stations being even planned let alone constructed? there's one in the UK which is hugely over budget and behind schedule

[@frankcoffey]

If Ford Pro is making all that money on subscriptions and the E-Transit doesn't need all the service gas ones do that means repair money is going back to Ford.

[@mikapeltokorpi7671]

Tesla's money machine stalling? "The layoffs disclosed in Buffalo comprise a 14% reduction in headcount there. Most employees work for Tesla’s factory there which produces Supercharger equipment."

[@CSHarvey]

Tesla has also dropped the labour require for producing and installing superchargers. Process efficiency means fewer workers needed.

[@soundmindbodydivine]

That part!

[@Peter-hg2oc]

How many of the chargers are drive through for towing? If you have to unhitch to charge it would slow EV adoption.

[@gmv0553]

Most of the chargers at the Flying J travel centers!

[@Dobbs6651]

Hello from Detroit

[@FrankGallagherr]

Tesla is the best car company ever! No gas stations, No oil changes, No smog check, No corrupt dealership, No catalytic converter and as fast as a $650,000 Lamborghini….

[@Pernection]

Just wait until something breaks then come back with some proper understanding.

[@FriedChairs]

@@Pernection Then you take it to a Tesla service center and they give you another Tesla to drive while it’s being repaired. Been there. Still bought a 2nd Tesla after that.

[@paul5683]

Don't forget to rotate your tires every 10,000 miles. I've heard that Tesla recommends every 7,500 miles on the cybertruck.

[@russh6414]

Don't forget about the coolant leaks destroying a lot of large unit drive motors out of warranty either... (google it)

[@ethanwelner1230]

@@paul5683 You'll probably have to get the interior rotated too after those inches wide panel gaps let in the rain.

[@foxtrotwolf6081]

Why should Mexico cut off incentives to automakers if they want to invest in Mexican plants and jobs?

[@anthonyxuereb792]

You have to admire Toyota.

[@vancity2349]

What for?

[@anthonyxuereb792]

@@vancity2349 Good grief, need you ask? A track record second to none

[@vancity2349]

@@anthonyxuereb792 There are many brands with incredible history and reliability

[@anthonyxuereb792]

@@vancity2349 That maybe so but it's Toyota that's on top of the hit parade and has been so for years, I'm not a Toyota fan but I do admire how they operate

[@vancity2349]

@@anthonyxuereb792 For sure no denying that.

[@Dkrpan59]

I don’t see no grill on that Chinese van have you forgotten what defines grill look it up in a dictionary

[@ethanwelner1230]

"noun a metal framework used for cooking food over an open fire; a gridiron."

[@soundmindbodydivine]

George Foreman brought me here!

[@mrjim1973]

In the not so hot EV market Tesla Discounts Model Y By Up To $5,000 As Inventory Increases 1,117.5%

[@jamesvandamme7786]

Models need a refresh. Battery prices are dropping so cars are cheaper.

[@rodrigogaya5276]

Low cost EVs!? Oh noooo what will the avg US comsumer doooooo

[@frankcoffey]

Toyota was just talking about giving customers "choice" but now they don't have any choice with the Camry. No gas only, no EV, no PHEV.

[@Bryanbkk]

Toyota is the walking dead.

[@kevtheobald]

How do think Toyota proves hybrids ate the future if they do get more hybrid sales, so take other choices away and push hybrid. I do think it is good for production costs if Toyota takes options away. Many businesses benefit from streamlining their product offerings. The timing of Toyota saying hybrids what customers buy when they takeaway the other options.

[@benjaminsmith2287]

For the Toyota line up of car, not for every car offered. The Prius was never gas only.

[@ethanwelner1230]

Commercial EVs being provably cheap to operate is great news, but kinda sad in the face of the Cybertruck being functionally worthless as a commercial vehicle due to Elons weird infatuation with Bladed Runner.

[@onnieraycar]

Will AutoLine says BEVs are much less expensive after tracking devices charge-per-mile to make up lost road-maintenance petrol taxes by mandatory automatic payment?

[@kevtheobald]

Last I checked no one is doing that right now. Let us see what happens first. Then we can compare. With that said, I do pay $150 extra on annual registration in theory to help California to off set lost gas tax revenues for road maintenance. I am still well below of my ICE costs for annual operations and do not have visit gas stations or oil change centers.

[@ethanwelner1230]

Gas taxes don't make up very much of road or highway maintenance budgets in real terms and the numbers have been falling for years. The budget is mostly taken from the general tax pool, forcing people who don't drive to subsidize those who do. It'd be great if car drivers could actually pay for their infrastructure for once.

[@kevtheobald]

@ethanwelner1230 The challenge is so much of our society uses roads to function. If some never drove a vehicle, they still have an impact on the need for road infrastructure. Order packages, they come on delivery trucks. Power grids have service vehicles that need roads. Grocery stores have commercial delivery vehicles to keep them stocked. The list goes, but you get the idea. Where I have issue is the lack of transparency with the use of these funds. How well government officials use tax revenue is usually disappointing. There seems to be a lack of accountability.

[@CSHarvey]

Fun fact - most states charge a flat EV fee as part of annual registration renewal. That fee is typically higher than comparable vehicles would pay in annual gas taxes.

[@Tokamak3.1415]

@@ethanwelner1230 I agree with some of your statement, but people who don't drive don't just have gifts of sustenance drop from Heaven above. If they're not driving they're probably ordering 50 things a month from Amazon Prime and Uber eats and thus relying on other people to drive. The only people not using "roads" are people who walk to work and shops and if getting pedantic their shoes were probably transported by road, rail and air. Considering how obese most Americans are I ascribe that pedestrian behavior as a very small minority.

[@MarkMeszarosYNG]

Elon Musk is putting Tesla all-in on Robotaxi

[@ethanwelner1230]

For... The fifth time?

[@mikafiltenborg7572]

​@ethanwelner1230 8/8-2024 = 🚖🚖🚖🚖🚖

[@InternetDude]

8 years running so far 😂

[@brunoheggli2888]

Buy the dip if you like to go broke!

[@StormyDog]

Every Tesla ever made switches to pollution free mode when it enters a low emission zone, or any other zone. 🙂

[@glennbeattie6172]

Will you please share what you are smoking???

[@StormyDog]

@@glennbeattie6172 Unfortunately your diesel fumes.

[@glennbeattie6172]

Honestly I do not understand what you are saying. Do you hate EVs? I want to live in a world with clean air.

[@StormyDog]

@@glennbeattie6172 Read my comment again. Carefully. The point is that every Tesla is always in pollution free mode. BTW, I drive a Model Y LR and wouldn't switch after owning one.

[@bobbbobb4663]

@@StormyDog A bicycle is also pollution free! Glad you support Adrian aka babysmurf9000 aka 8/8 day celebrator!

[@nickayivor8432]

👍

[@jeffos8724]

Yet another hideous grill treatment form Toyota. Looks like the scoop I use to clean the cat's litterbox.

[@rok1475]

US: Hey, Mexico, stop those subsidies to Chinese companies Mexico: OK, but first tear down that wall. Better still, hire Mexican workers to do it.

[@juanvga]

USA hypocrisy...

[@Northbaylandscaping]

I think a side effect of Tesla's FSD will lead them to building their own google maps so they can give better data for their robo taxis.

[@CSHarvey]

Let you in on a secret? Tesla has had its own map system with supercharger routing for almost 6 years now

[@ethanwelner1230]

That map is gonna know so much about California and so little about Maine.

[@soundmindbodydivine]

You actually believe that robotaxi nonsense?

[@gmv0553]

You are dreaming!

[@bobbbobb4663]

Tesla Headline News: 3,000 pink slips in Germany! Adrian has a special committee of 1 person to decide Texas tantrum move and pay package! XPeng self-driving rollout in Germany to embarrass Captain K!

[@russh6414]

The Chief Techno Geek at Tesla is finding that his lack of time, dedication and focus on his "actual job" is causing the company stock to fall below the analysts tipping point threshold this morning. Time for more "prescription" laden manufactured hype in 3-2-1...

[@Agent77X]

@@russh6414The Chief Techo King has not been paid since 2017, so Elon is working for free still! So stop complaining! Would you work for free for 7 years and still not get a cent in compensation? Elon still working for free in 2024!😮

[@bobbbobb4663]

@@Agent77X More proof that Captain K is dumber than we give him credit! Those fake degrees aren't helping!

[@russh6414]

@@Agent77X That is what my former CEO said he wasn't "taking" a paycheck while accumulating massive stock options and having the company pay for everything else including his private jet. Captain K sold a ton of stock at the peak of the hype and squandered it in a pissing match while not paying attention to what he was supposed to be doing, his one fricking job 24x7. Not three, one...

[@ethanwelner1230]

@@Agent77X Working for free and yet somehow could finance the buying of twitter. I'm not sure you know what the word free means.

[@Michael-ge3eo]

LISTEN I THINK YOU GUYS ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM HERE. US CHARGING NETWORKS ARE GROWING CORRECT BUT FINANCIALLY IT DOESN'T MATTER FOR THE PEOPLE BUYING THESE CARS. THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO CHARGE IT HOME AND THEY NEED FAST CHARGING IF THEY WANT TO DRIVE ON THE ROAD TO TRAVEL WITH THEIR FAMILIES. THE REASON WHY YOU'RE PROUD OF THE PROBLEM IS YOU'RE NOT EMPHASIZING THIS AND WARNING SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO PURCHASE ONE OF THESE VEHICLES ELECTRIC VEHICLES BECAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO PROMOTE ELECTRIC CARS THE FACT IS TO MANUFACTURE AN ELECTRIC CAR CREATE MORE POLLUTION MORE DEADLY METALS INTO THE EARTH WITH BATTERIES AND THE MANUFACTURING OF BATTERIES MORE ENERGY AND CAUSES MORE POLLUTION PER VEHICLE THEN THE FULL LIFETIME OF A SEMI TRUCK GOING COAST-TO-COAST IN ITS LIFETIME. SMALL DIESEL MOTORS WITH SMALLER BATTERIES WITH ELECTRIC MOTORS DRIVING IS THE ANSWER FOR NOW WHY AREN'T YOU PUSHING DIESEL SMALL DIESELS WITH ELECTRIC MOTORS FOR PROPULSION IT IS THE MOST EFFICIENT AND LEAST POLLUTING SOLUTION HYBRID SYSTEM. TOYOTA HAS IT RIGHT. GM HAD IT RIGHT WITH THE VOLT IT IS SHOWS LIKE THIS THAT ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM YOUR FATHER HAS BEEN PRO ELECTRIC TO A FAULT. IT IS PEOPLE LIKE HIM THAT HAVE A PLATFORM WHO ARE NOT DOING WHAT THEY SHOULD DO WHEN SPEAKING ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES. HYDROGEN IS THE MOST ABUNDANT ENERGY IN THE WORLD. IT IS EVERYWHERE. HYDROGEN ELECTRIC SHOULD BE WHERE WE'RE GOING BECAUSE YOU CAN FILL UP AT A GAS STATION YOU CAN KEEP THE INFRASTRUCTURE. IT'S ONLY POLLUTANT IS WATER. ASTRONAUTS USE THE WATER FROM HYDROGEN CREATION. PLEASE GET YOUR STUFF TOGETHER I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE THE BEGINNING OF YOUR CHANNEL AND I'M TIRED OF YOUR LEFT-LEANING GREEN ENERGY BULL CRAP IT'S GOING TO DESTROY THIS COUNTRY FINANCIALLY AND THE CHINESE ARE GOING TO BE THE ONLY ONES AND THEY WILL DISPLACE ALL OF OUR MANUFACTURING JOBS INCLUDING THE AUTOMOBILE INDUSTRY AND IS A DIRECT RESULT OF PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELVES THAT WILL NOT EXPOSE THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS STUFF. DON'T TAKE THIS AS AN ATTACK TAKE IT AS LEARNING RESEARCH WHAT I JUST TOLD YOU IT IS FACT. HAVE A GREAT DAY

[@gmv0553]

Your statement is total BS!

[@freedomliberty7611]

This channel has gone down.

[@davewhite113]

Those companies buying the E vans will soon learn that when those vans get a little more miles on them, they will dollar those companies to death. Just wait until the batteries start going out, all of that savings will be gone and those vans will have no resale value to them.... These foolish CEO's will learn and it will be costly.

[@JD-yx7be]

depends on the cycle life of the battery. the very worst batteries get around 1000 charge cycles and if the van only gets 100 miles of range that is 100,000 miles to 70% of original capacity. Battery cost are falling every year so replacement batteries or replacement vans will be cheaper in the future. There are already many electric taxis with well over 200k miles on them The gas transit has a 5 year 60k mile warranty the e transit has a 8 year 100k warranty

[@JD-yx7be]

Here is the battery warranty from Ford copied and pasted High Voltage Lithium-Ion Battery Capacity Coverage As is the case with all batteries, the high voltage lithium-ion battery capacity will decrease over time and with use. While gradual capacity loss with time and use is considered normal wear and tear, Ford Motor Company warrants the high voltage battery against excessive capacity loss for a period of 8 years/100,000 miles, whichever comes first. If an authorized EV Certified Ford Dealer determines that the battery capacity is less than 70 percent of the high voltage battery’s beginning of life capacity, or less than 65 percent for vehicles in cutaway or chassis cab configuration, this level of capacity loss is considered excessive. The measurement method used to determine the high voltage battery capacity, and the decision of whether to repair, replace, or provide reconditioned or remanufactured parts, and the condition of any such replaced, reconditioned or remanufactured parts, are at the sole discretion of Ford Motor Company. During the High Voltage Battery Capacity Coverage period, Ford Motor Company will cover the necessary component repair or replacement to correct this excessive capacity loss, when performed by an EV Certified Ford dealership. This coverage is in addition to the high voltage battery assembly’s limited warranty for defects in materials or workmanship. If a warranty repair requires replacement of the high voltage battery 17 assembly, or one of its components, it may be replaced with a new, factory remanufactured, or factory refurbished component, at Ford’s discretion. Refurbished battery components selected for your vehicle will align with your vehicle’s age, and mileage. NOTE: The battery capacity degradation rate will vary based on various factors, including environmental conditions, and will also be affected by the way in which the vehicle is used. Following the recommendations in the Preserving Your High Voltage Battery section of the Owner’s Manual may help lower the rate of capacity degradation and optimize battery life.

[@SpookyEng1]

@@JD-yx7beand at 8 yrs 1 day or 101k the resale value will plummet. The battery in my old volt failed at 8 yrs 2 months 82k miles. New replacement battery $26k. Rebuilt used battery with 3 yr warranty 9.8k, resale value at the time 7.3k. Sure, many last longer but if it is out of warranty you are rolling the dice and all those maintenance savings evaporate. I love EVs and will own another but never out of warranty, the risk/reward ratio sucks.

[@JD-yx7be]

@@SpookyEng1 The early plug in market was very low volume vehicles and haven't dialed in the battery management or chemistry yet. I'm sure a newer plug in hybrid like the Prius Prime would have much longer lasting batteries and cheaper replacement. GM is now using the Ultium platform shared across multiple vehicles much like the Chevy LS engines are which will drive down cost from economics of scale. I found the previous generation Prius Prime (17-22) remaned battery for $6200 including shipping with 18 month warranty. It has a $1,000 core return rebate, $5200 total plus any taxes. So still very expensive and the prime i believe is a smaller pack than the volt. I found the first gen volt remaned pack for $9k total with shipping 36 month warranty so a small $800 price cut since yours failed.

[@gmv0553]

​@@SpookyEng1the Volt battery is nothing close to the batteries in electric vehicles today. It was a hybrid with a totally different battery!

[@freedomliberty7611]

Growing Fast? Stop the propaganda. Im in NH I don't know of 1 supercharger

[@ethanwelner1230]

Literally not even a real state.

[@JD-yx7be]

i did a 10 second quick search on google maps and found over 10 in new hampshire

[@JD-yx7be]

found around 10 with a quick search on google maps

[@JD-yx7be]

i did a quick google maps search and found around 10