U.S. Ryder Cup Members are Now Getting PAID?

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@littlepocket-xc3fy
@littlepocket-xc3fy 12 күн бұрын
Cmon ,the event is not about money ,it's typical American lifestyle, absolutely everything is about money, golf is being destroyed by greed,best days are behind it
@verideaux3250
@verideaux3250 13 күн бұрын
Cantlay’s head has now surprisingly shrunk. His cap now fits. It’s just coincidence everyone 🙏
@FelixGallardo1946
@FelixGallardo1946 13 күн бұрын
This is ridiculous. Over inflated ego’s. They should refuse to pay them and pick people who actually want to play in a traditional Ryder Cup. Mcilroy summed it up perfectly. One of the best weeks in the golf calendar, theres another 103 weeks that these guys can get paid.
@Tom_Swift
@Tom_Swift 12 күн бұрын
So the media, tours, broadcasters, etc. make millions off the event featuring the players, aka the talent, aka the reason why everyone is watching, and they get zero dollars??? It's not really about ego at all, unless every single penny of profit from the event is donated then someone is making profit, so the players unquestionably deserve to be paid. No players = No Ryder Cup.
@Tom_Swift
@Tom_Swift 12 күн бұрын
So many hands are making BIG MONEY off of the Ryder Cup. Unless all profits are donated, then the players deserve to get paid as well. Ask all the media personalities, broadcasters, event staff, production, etc. if they would work this event for free...
@mikejamieson9539
@mikejamieson9539 9 күн бұрын
Exactly they’re gonna make a few hundred million off the backs of the players the earnings should be donated or half to the players.
@bob5365
@bob5365 13 күн бұрын
This is one of 2 events that should stay unpaid. Let's face it, none of these guys need to be paid for the Ryder Cup or the Olympics. It may also bring in a little favoritism when it comes time for selection. The cost of tickets, food, parking, etc is out of control. I would love to be able to go for even 1 day, but like most average people, I'm priced out. They claim to want to expand the game of golf, yet everything they do goes against that claim.
@Tom_Swift
@Tom_Swift 12 күн бұрын
Unless every single penny of profit from the event is donated then lots of people are making profit here, the players rightfully deserve to be paid. You can blame the corporate greed for the high ticket cost, merch, etc.
@coobay4786
@coobay4786 13 күн бұрын
And I thought the LIV players were supposed to be the greedy ones.🙉
@civik29
@civik29 13 күн бұрын
Don't care that the players are paid but I do have an issue with that cost being passed down to consumers. Just another case of corporate greed. You can't tell me they could not pay them with the billions of dollars this event generates. Just Golf being Golf = A rich/wealthy person's game!
@nomorenonsense
@nomorenonsense 12 күн бұрын
I have no problem with the players getting paid. After all its the players who make the event and it is their job. The problem is with the corporate greed. PGA of America will make 100s of million from this event. They could literally let everyone in for free just from the profit from merchandise. Just look how much Augusta sells each year in merchandise. Then profiting off of volunteers aswell is comical. This isn't an issue at all about player pay. It's those greedy executives all taking 25 million dollar bonuses. This is the exact reason why Greg Norman started LIV. Notice how millions showed up in weekly purses on the pga as soon as guys started to leave. The players should actually get profit share from this event and stick it to the PGA of America. This is by no means a charity event and the tour groups are screwing everyone involved including the players, fans and volunteers. Enjoy the $22 dollar beers aswell.
@Papa-Bogey
@Papa-Bogey 11 күн бұрын
PGA of America: we’re going to charge $750+/day for tickets to the Ryder Cup; also PGA of America: players should be proud to play on the Ryder Cup team. They don’t need to get paid. Players are greedy. PGA of America: we need unpaid volunteers. We can’t do this without volunteers; also PGA of America: volunteers, you need to pay us $350 to volunteer. Who’s the greedy one? Who’s out of touch? Who’s gouging the fans? Who’s taking advantage of unpaid volunteers? Who’s making hundreds of millions of dollars running this event using the talent of professional golfers and efforts of unpaid volunteers and expect them to do it for free? Or CHARGE THEM FOR THE “PRIVILEGE”? Maybe I’ll watch it on TV. But TV coverage of PGA Tour events is horrible. Why would I expect coverage of the RC to be any different, any better? I’ll be out on the golf course, enjoying a round of golf with my friends, spending maybe $100-150 tops for a round plus food and drink afterwards. Maybe I’ll record the matches, and watch them without commercials, and fast forward past the inane commentary. Maybe … we can ask the age old question “if the Ryder Cup is on TV and no one watches, will anyone care?” The PGA of America is about to find out.
@AceChestnut11
@AceChestnut11 13 күн бұрын
If you are proud to represent your country, I don't really think you should be expecting to get paid... And if you are getting paid, you better not get that ass whipped again...
@CTaylor307
@CTaylor307 13 күн бұрын
I did the math last night even if they paid all 24 players that's around 10 million. With just ticket sales it's looking to bring in over $350 million even after paying the players. Not including TV deal, sponsorship, concession, merch, and other revenue. I know they claim that proceeds go to charity but where is the proof that the half they are supposed to makes it there? Not to mention most of the "charities" that receive are run by the same group who put it on to begin with. A lot of time you see these charities paying their higher ups millions a year. The other half is at the discretion of the players. It would be awesome for the players who take the money to directly donate it. From the research I've done they are claiming under $50 million has been donated to United states charities since 1999. With ticket prices being around double this year that still puts the money being brought in above $150 million at Whilstling straights and Marco. Now it is expensive to put these on so figure it at 1/3 which would be 50 million the last 2 events that's still $200 million that where did it go? So just deductive reasoning says that the 12 Ryder cups since 1999 have brought in over $1.1 billion in sales and likely around 600 million in proceeds. This is also not to mention the rumors of the PGA of America selling tickets directly to secondary ticket suppliers. If the Ryder cup wasn't about money then why increase prices on tickets to begin with? I for one have no reason to pay more to go watch in person then it would be to get memberships to 4 courses for the year around me (That would be total cost for 2 people for the weekend).
@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656
@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656 13 күн бұрын
Great post
@johndomutz1052
@johndomutz1052 13 күн бұрын
I'm happy to watch it on TV...
@MTerrance
@MTerrance 13 күн бұрын
I am old enough to have lived when professionals were finally allowed to compete in amateur events - particularly tennis. The "Tennis Boom" resulted as the competition level went through the roof. Expecting people who make their living playing a sport to do so for free is naive. Claiming they should play for free because they are patriots is not just naive but disingenuous. The PGA is getting paid, so why should the competitors be expected to compete for free? Yes, volunteers are involved in golf tournaments, but they are self-selected. I have volunteered for a US Open, and I was willing to pay to do so. If I had wanted to attend as a spectator, I would have had to pay more. I have heard zero discussions about paying the players at different rates based on performance. I favor this because whether the players are paid or not, MONEY IS BEING MADE!! Demanding that competitors play for free does not mean someone is not getting paid because they are; it is just that the reason for watching - the players - is getting hosed. By that logic, USGA or PGA officials should be unpaid. It is the same for college sports - and now they are getting paid as well.
@amp4240
@amp4240 13 күн бұрын
These are all valid points. I can see the players thinking hell, everyone's making money but us and we're the product. Typical shit PR move by the PGA. Instead of going into their mass coffers they just pass the cost - of an expense of their own creation, mind you - on to the consumer.
@7UnderPar
@7UnderPar 10 күн бұрын
There is a great article written in Sports Illustrated that lays out where the funds have been going: 1/ the players currently get $200,000 each to donate to the charity of their choice. 2/ the PGA Tour (not the PGA of America) also gets 20% of the TV revenue, last count at $88 million. 3/ These funds are reported to be spread across the PGA Tour retirement fund for example, benefitting all. for years. 4/ the PGA of America chapters all get funding from Ryder Cup revenue each year. 5/ the American team players already are staring at 7 digit bank accounts..... 6/ so $400,000 per American player as reported times 12 players = roughly $5,000,000. 7/ do you think thats going to come from the PGA Tour bucket??? by contract, as noted above, they are getting 20% already. 8/ does this mean then that the local PGA club pro, teaching pro, etc is going to be lighter in the pocket???
@timkauffman6311
@timkauffman6311 13 күн бұрын
One day no, would rather play some top courses, I have volunteered 3 times senior events pay $170.00 clothes plus time off work. Pay me before USA I guess. What about the caddies? Make them donate monies to a charity. My interest in watching is because they are there for USA not for financial reward. Humm maybe not watching not sure yet.
@paulhuk2748
@paulhuk2748 12 күн бұрын
After a slight resurgence in the sport after COVID I can see a sharp decline happening soon down to greed, from players to equipment manufacturers and now the events themselves totally overpriced, KZbin golfers like yourself, Rick, James, Peter, and many more could use this and arrange some affordable events that I'm sure us regular guys/girls would flock to see, so come make it happen and get the greedy pro's worried, keep them coming mate.
@countysecession
@countysecession 13 күн бұрын
They should get paid per point they earn in the competition.
@charlesbond4413
@charlesbond4413 12 күн бұрын
I have always assumed that players travel, board and room and incidental expenses were paid. If they are getting paid $400,000 each, will they now arrange their own airfare, taxi, motels and meals, plus golf related expenses? If they were paying all of these costs out of their pocket before, then getting paid makes more sense. In short, it should be an honor to play, but a break even cost wise. The Masters, Pebble Beach and Ryder Cup were my favorite tournaments to watch. This is not a good change for the Ryder Cup. It detracts from its value as a tournament. It may still be good, but it is now different.
@lvond555
@lvond555 13 күн бұрын
Who cares if they get paid. I just want an affordable ticket as a fan. I didn't go because of the cost. I really wanted to go to the Ryder Cup.
@sammaier4485
@sammaier4485 13 күн бұрын
If the tickets were cheaper there would have to be a lottery like the Masters.
@civik29
@civik29 13 күн бұрын
@@sammaier4485 At least people would have an opportunity to attend. At that price you alienate a lot of golf fans.
@lvond555
@lvond555 13 күн бұрын
@@sammaier4485 Just don't allow corporations to buy tickets. Let the people get them.
@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656
@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656 13 күн бұрын
@@sammaier4485ok.
@TechFrontierX
@TechFrontierX 12 күн бұрын
Add Euro Team to President’s Cup and make it a ‘World Cup’ would be epic.
@DJRyanWalker
@DJRyanWalker 7 күн бұрын
Nobody should be paid to play in a Ryder Cup. Rory said it perfectly. There are 103 weeks between Ryder Cups where you earn money. Playing for your country for one week every other year is an honour and if you cant sacrifice one week of your time to represent your country then you don’t deserve to be there. Those top tier players are earning in the region of £10m a year and much more through sponsorship. If you’re complaining about money you’re not in it for the right reasons and shouldn’t be on the team.
@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656
@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656 13 күн бұрын
A key component Mr short game left out is that the players are getting paid immediately after they asked for transparency of how the pga are using the incredible fortune this event generates. Their answer: here take some money. Players should keep asking for transparency. Why are we always questioning the players about money while giving a pass to the suits gobbling up all this money? …especially now as these are the same people who created this asinine, Greedy 750$ tix. I legit was hoping to take my family of five to this Ryder cup. That’s not going to happen for obvious reasons. They blame the second hand sellers raising prices but there are clearly ways to get real fans buying tix. For example make fans line up somewhere to buy tickets. Limit the number one person can buy. There are lot of ways to sell tickets. They don’t have to let the sharks use technological advantages to hoard all the tickets. I’m very disappointed in the pga of America. Of course now they have loud mouth Brandie already brainwashing folks that players are greedy to distract people from the greed at the top. You should not fall for this Mr shirt game. We btw just paid the pga of America over 500$ for a jr league that runs nov to January…once every couple of weeks I believe. The Ryder cup, the way it’s going, needs to pay the players. The Olympics are the Olympics every 4 years, and btw athletes are getting paid more and more there as well. The days of ‘you cannot take any money from anywhere while we get rich’ are dying. And that is a good thing. It’s a good thing for athletes to get paid. That way they can continue to do what they do. I don’t think it opens up any cans to simply pay people. It’s just the right thing to do. Especially if the customer is being price gouged.
@jimmcewen9351
@jimmcewen9351 13 күн бұрын
Tiger made sure he and the other Ryder cup guys got paid big money 25 years ago
@larryverdugo3553
@larryverdugo3553 13 күн бұрын
Why shouldn’t the players get paid? Millions of dollars are made in this event. Who gets all that money. Now if nobody gets paid fine but those millions are going somewhere. To say they already get paid a lot so they should do this for free is wrong.
@jimjohnson4178
@jimjohnson4178 13 күн бұрын
No
@RBH-q8e
@RBH-q8e 13 күн бұрын
Complete BS if players are actually getting paid directly for participation. This no longer makes it a matter pride of country but about the which the PGA, LIV and other tours are already about. What’s next paying Olympic athletes directly as well. How would the player’s salary even be determined…it would just mess up an enjoyable event IMO.
@tomignacios3668
@tomignacios3668 13 күн бұрын
Why can’t it be both. They’re not exclusive imo
@chevy4x466
@chevy4x466 13 күн бұрын
$350 to volunteer 😂😂😂. $750 for a ticket 🎟️ 😮. Not suprised golf isn’t doing better these days.
@ConfusedCurling-ob5lo
@ConfusedCurling-ob5lo 11 күн бұрын
Supposedly a large amount of the profits from the Ryder cup goes into investing in grass roots golf, helping in the future of the sport. The money paid to the players($5 million goes a long way) and all the American players are quick to promote grass roots golf when on camera. 🤷‍♂️. Go team Europe pride before price !
@nomorenonsense
@nomorenonsense 11 күн бұрын
You are joking right? You know the executives of the PGA of America pay themselves $20 million dollar bonuses. If you think this is a charity event you have drank the kool-aid. They make 100s of million from this event and throw a few dollars out to fool people. Why should players go and line other peoples pockets? Do you not collect a pay cheque?
@bobsracing34
@bobsracing34 13 күн бұрын
Everyone wants a little piece of the action, so why not pay the players. If you’re paying college athletes, might as well pay the Ryder cup team. Loyalty to country is a thing of the past.
@robellen1609
@robellen1609 13 күн бұрын
IMO, the optics are poor the US players are getting paid. The Euros are going to say we play for the love of our continent/country, and the Americans only play for money.
@TrevorBarratt-y2h
@TrevorBarratt-y2h 11 күн бұрын
Story checks out...
@jimmyculp8756
@jimmyculp8756 12 күн бұрын
Might not watch anymore?
@FLjeffinPCB
@FLjeffinPCB 11 күн бұрын
I would not pay that for going to see a round of golf. I would rather use the money to play golf and watch it on TV.
@micah6615
@micah6615 13 күн бұрын
I hope the PGA tour players are not so petty to believe because oh I'm the number one I should be paid more it's the Ryder cup it's supposed to be for the country not about how much you pay I think we're losing touch with where are we are and who we are as a nation
@shankedit65
@shankedit65 13 күн бұрын
So much for grow the game, multi. Millionaires pocketing more money taking it away from grass roots programs, 750 a ticket, this could kill off the ryder cup
@cledesma135
@cledesma135 13 күн бұрын
Pay the Women too.
@jakecvma8571
@jakecvma8571 13 күн бұрын
Yeah , they really need 400 grand. ??
@fu_247
@fu_247 10 күн бұрын
$25 max.
@kevindreifurst5681
@kevindreifurst5681 13 күн бұрын
No worse than paying college athletes that get a free education
@samdevictor7153
@samdevictor7153 13 күн бұрын
Mr. Short game, I thought you were smarter than this.
@shawnh1123
@shawnh1123 13 күн бұрын
$400,000!? GTFOH
@javiersalas7670
@javiersalas7670 12 күн бұрын
Am I the only one who's surprised they didnt get paid before?
@lvond555
@lvond555 13 күн бұрын
WTF? pay to volunteer?
@Ufc12355
@Ufc12355 13 күн бұрын
The PGA is so boring now. Tiger made it an every man’s game now it’s back to being a rich man’s game
@lanc1a
@lanc1a 12 күн бұрын
No doubt the players have the upper hand in todays golf power struggle. If they are ignorant and stupid they will go after the money. If the players are smart they would go after political power. A classic divide and conquer tactics applied ong the PGA/LIV conflict would put the players in the driving seat of golf for decades. Sadly it seems the players are to gready to understand this once in a lifetime opportunity to shape the future of golf.
@samdevictor7153
@samdevictor7153 13 күн бұрын
How many people in these comments that say the golfers should not get paid, go to work eveday and don't get paid. Hypocrites.
@dswede9312
@dswede9312 13 күн бұрын
The players should get paid. The PGA of America makes millions and millions of dollars off of this event. Why should the PGA of America get all the money and not the players?
@TomMoore-s2r
@TomMoore-s2r 13 күн бұрын
PGA of America makes millions of $$$$ from the Ryder Cup. Players should be paid as professionals to play !
@kevindreifurst5681
@kevindreifurst5681 13 күн бұрын
$400 grand that’s extreme Maybe $100
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