UConn to the Big 12 is Very Real

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John Kurtz

John Kurtz

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@gregnelson1330
@gregnelson1330 2 ай бұрын
Arizona fan..... HELL YES !!! Will a TNT be added, along with more teams? This will block the ACC from grabbing OConn. If the Big 12 just grabs FSU & Clemson, they could be poached later by the Greedy 2, leaving us vulnerable. With UConn, Duke, NCST, Gonzaga, Creiighton, Louisville, Miami, Clemson, Marquette, St Johns, Syracuse, VTech, Villanova, Memphis St & SDSU will want in. No longer can the Greedy 2 close us out!!!!
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 ай бұрын
Delusional
@realtruth2905
@realtruth2905 2 ай бұрын
​@@tarheel7406He makes perfect sense. You are the one that's delusional. What happened to the PAC-12 is what's awaiting for the ACC if ESPN doesn't step up and protect the TV contract. The B12 actually is the more stable conference right now. It is time for UConn to help B12 lock up the Northeast.
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 ай бұрын
@@realtruth2905 Nope. a) The PAC was delusional and incompetent. The ACC has preemptively backfilled. b) The ACC will be as stable after the P2 consolidation, I don't have a dog in what UCONN or the BIG12 does. FSU is ~100% to BIG12 but CLEMSON is ~10%. Both would depreciate rapidly as a result. The ACC clearly doesn't want UCONN, so the BIG12 doesn't neem to block from grabbing. The BIG12 is the option of last resort, so the SEC/B1G would have to take more than expected ACC schools to change that, after which it wouldn't matter.
@secretagent73
@secretagent73 2 ай бұрын
Keep telling yourself that. You'll be right eventually..right?
@sunsensational
@sunsensational 2 ай бұрын
Uconn Fan here. Most of UConn nation is thrilled with this announcement. Basketball maintains its prestige and brand, and it allows us to return FB to being competitive as it was when we were last in a power conference for FB. We were routinely ranked and, ending with winning conference and NY6 Bowl right before conf folded. We’d be thrilled to have funds needed to compete again.
@Frog2theRRR
@Frog2theRRR 2 ай бұрын
The mountain west was better than the big east when UConn was in it as a football conference. 🤣🤣🤣
@josephmelendez8370
@josephmelendez8370 2 ай бұрын
I don't know, the UConn fans that I know up north wouldn't exactly be excited to leave the Big East to play schools from across the country. Maybe you know better than I do, but it has been years since I lived there.
@ervinjd
@ervinjd 2 ай бұрын
UCONN needs a On campus football statium.
@jimmyrustled2493
@jimmyrustled2493 2 ай бұрын
Not if they’re in the big 12 they don’t
@Mr.Ed_Wayner
@Mr.Ed_Wayner 2 ай бұрын
Yes, B12 should bring UConn as a BB & Olympic sports member and as an associate member with ability yo join in FB in 2031. B12 schools should schedule UConn for up to 6 games a year so UConn can get used to the B12 competition.
@pitchshot2868
@pitchshot2868 2 ай бұрын
Desperate and bad choice for the B12. FB terrible but BB good. However, cannot seat 60K for a BB game.
@davidzitzkat289
@davidzitzkat289 2 ай бұрын
@@pitchshot2868 Dave Replies - No, you connot seat 60k for a BB game, but you can have 3 BB games per week seating 17 - 20 k. And you can do that with women's BB as well. Dave Replies is a big UCONN fan.
@pitchshot2868
@pitchshot2868 2 ай бұрын
@@davidzitzkat289 Agree but BB just does not. Cut it like FB does. It helps but does not win the Cigar. U CONN excellent in BB Women and Men. FB is the key and they are a D2 team because U Conn is a BB school, like Seton Hall, Marquette, Gonzaga “etc”. Bad choice by B12.Like bringing in the AAC schools because they were desperate. Same thing with U Conn.
@VillageIdiott
@VillageIdiott 2 ай бұрын
Probably should give Mark Zanetto of Locked on UConn a shout that , thats were we really heard it first
@Dugger1991
@Dugger1991 2 ай бұрын
Mush on!!! Go UConn!!!!!
@tomdubay2225
@tomdubay2225 2 ай бұрын
I live in CT but didn’t go to UConn, so I think in an unbiased way on this. From the fanbase perspective: 1. Legacy UConn basketball-dominant fans love the Big East for obvious reasons. 2. UConn football-dominant fans are yearning for a P* invite. 3. General /across the board UConn fans realize long term sustainability is by moving to a P* conference and that basketball could keep some Big East opponents as out of conference games every so often to keep the legacy fans happy. 4. The one thing everybody agrees on is that the Big East tournament is a one of a kind jewel that can't be replaced, so an annual game or two at MSG would likely soften that blow. They can also put a periodic game in Boston Garden against anyone but especially against a northeast foe for similar purposes. All in all, the fanbase generally realizes the P* move is needed/inevitable.
@JohnDry-d7z
@JohnDry-d7z 2 ай бұрын
Plus Louisville, of course WV, and Cincinnati that is already in the B12, Pitt, NC St, VT, Syracuse all are possible on joining the B12 soon as well! The Big East will be a joke in basketball.
@sunsensational
@sunsensational 2 ай бұрын
@@JohnDry-d7z that’s what I’m thinking. We could be resurrecting the old big east programs that had football and maybe making alliance with the basketball only big east schools for scheduling.
@joeblow7407
@joeblow7407 2 ай бұрын
I live in metro NYC.........Region will NEVER care about UConn football......useless. This commentator sounds like a hick who has NEVER even been to NYC!!! ACC is the conference for the Huskies!!!!! This clown was yapping about this last year!!!! Get a real job!
@jeffwoollard2280
@jeffwoollard2280 2 ай бұрын
As a WVU fan I have no problem with UConn joking the Big-12. As far as football specifically, when they joined the Bid East football conference they became competitive in a short amount of time. That could be done again if the joined the Big-12.
@simon2077
@simon2077 2 ай бұрын
I'm all for this. Let them join in 2025 in all sports except FB. Then add their FB in 2031 giving them ample time to build a new stadium much closer to home & allow them to get their act together. Don't forget back when we took WVU & TCU we were looking at both Louisville & UConn.
@WestVirginia002
@WestVirginia002 2 ай бұрын
The Big East was a weak conference.
@wheelssportspage2022
@wheelssportspage2022 2 ай бұрын
Why do you need a new football stadium. ​@@simon2077
@Knightowl1980
@Knightowl1980 2 ай бұрын
Calculated risk is the right way to describe it. I don’t mind adding them in basketball if you know you’re targeting someone in football to offset it.
@rodneydurrett8604
@rodneydurrett8604 2 ай бұрын
It will bring the massive New York and East media markets.
@upstatebernie4827
@upstatebernie4827 2 ай бұрын
Unlike the BS that Rutgers sold to the Big Ten. NY ♥️ UCONN
@Knightowl1980
@Knightowl1980 2 ай бұрын
The northeast are not big College athletic markets .
@J-bw4sr
@J-bw4sr 2 ай бұрын
@@Knightowl1980true, but NY/New England is a huge market in general so even a piece of one of the largest untapped mediocre college market can be bigger than a smaller but better college market
@Knightowl1980
@Knightowl1980 2 ай бұрын
@@J-bw4sr being from there I just don’t see people getting excited it’s for it. My dad would rather watch Alabama and Notre Dame, though I have done a number on him the last 20 years trying to get him to watch ucf , which he does
@Deezylowe785
@Deezylowe785 2 ай бұрын
Bull. I know plenty of ppl from NY and nobody from there ever talks about being UCONN fans
@KapunaBear
@KapunaBear 2 ай бұрын
Bring in UConn AND Gonzaga then create your own independent basketball conference. Yes!
@martin53088
@martin53088 2 ай бұрын
Idk what you can accomplish by adding a spot at the table for them- when you can just have them over as a guest. Give them football games with current members and home and homes with basketball( which is what you really want). If they are available now- they will be available if the acc falls apart. What’s the rush, the TV contract runs for another 5/6 years.
@Joe-sm9qj
@Joe-sm9qj 2 ай бұрын
It will help wvu for travel for sure
@jakerice468
@jakerice468 2 ай бұрын
as a wvu fan i’ll gladly take uconn I would just prefer in order: Louisville, pitt, va tech, nc state then uconn. but I understand the value they bring in with basketball. let’s face it pitt brings no value besides the brawl haha
@guybuckhannon
@guybuckhannon 2 ай бұрын
perhaps adding U.Conn first adds to the lure to the collapsing ACC- at least from a basketball perspective
@simon2077
@simon2077 2 ай бұрын
Totally understand, but this blocks the ACC from grabbing them before we do.
@jakerice468
@jakerice468 2 ай бұрын
@@simon2077 oh yeah I completely agree. just as a wvu fan we been on an island for 10 years and it leads to extra losses in every sport. I need some away conference games I can feasibly go to as well! wvu fans show up at maryland pitt penn state and va tech since they are close out of conference games. just cinci isn’t enough and uconn is just as far as iowa…. I was at recent pitt and maryland away games and we took over those stadiums!
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 ай бұрын
@@guybuckhannon The BIG12 has already collapsed.
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 ай бұрын
@@simon2077 The ACC clearly has no interest in UCONN. Some preemptive move should not be a consideration.
@justincredible27
@justincredible27 2 ай бұрын
In favor 👍
@JohnDry-d7z
@JohnDry-d7z 2 ай бұрын
If Mora Jr's football team, and all sports join. I'd say yes.
@michaelkeppler6593
@michaelkeppler6593 2 ай бұрын
As a long time UConn fan, I have no doubt our football program can compete with Big 12 programs given P4 type revenue. All you have to do is look at how UConn performed when they were part of the old Big East. They were the second fastest program to go from AA to a top 25 Div 1A program. They tied for the Big East title 2xs from 2004-2010 and played in a BCS Bowl in 2010 (vs Oklahoma, which they were competitive in until the 4th quarter). Things went off the rails when their coach left in 2010 and Big East football disbanded. They now have Jim Mora as coach (3rd year), and all points indicate a winning record this year (my guestimate is 8-4). The big issue with the Big 12 for UConn fans is the lack of regional rivals, outside of WVU and Cincinatti (e.g., Syracuse, Pitt, Duke, UNC, NCST, UVA, VT). Although you can see where Yormark is going with this... a 20-24 team league, assuming the likely implosion of the ACC. That's the only way this makes long term sense for UConn. All that said, it's a bold strategic move to become the undisputed #1 basketball conference (men's & women's), gain a foothold in the biggest media market and accelerate the demise of the ACC as a "power conference." PS I think you are one of the better channels covering the Big 12. Keep up the good work.
@Donjkoontz
@Donjkoontz 2 ай бұрын
Big12 put up with bad KU football for decades because of MBB…with that in mind, UConn and Duke as part of 6 east teams would be solid
@simon2077
@simon2077 2 ай бұрын
I like the idea, but UConn and Duke are not real close in their love for each other. I think Duke will eventually be in the Big Ten with North Carolina. By taking UConn we need at least a value add to come with them in 2031, but not until then. Bringing in UConn 2025 for all sports but FB (until 2031) makes total sense.
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 ай бұрын
@@simon2077 More likely UNC/DUKE to SEC.
@davidzitzkat289
@davidzitzkat289 2 ай бұрын
Dave Replies; I can see Syracuse coming with UCONN and Duke and the Carolinas coming later. The ACC can keep Boston College.
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 ай бұрын
@@davidzitzkat289 How do DUKE and the Carolina's end in the BIG12?
@kevinhampton6986
@kevinhampton6986 2 ай бұрын
There could be North Carolina and Duke coming available as well. And those two schools are probably unlikely to go to the Big 12. Or the ACC sees this and figures they already have a strong basketball conference and decides to push that to not only stay together but expand...although it looks as if ESPN is working to make UConn to the Big 12 happen.
@desertrat1111
@desertrat1111 2 ай бұрын
This will make it another coast to coast (almost) conference. Arizona to Connecticut
@ostentatioussavant8215
@ostentatioussavant8215 2 ай бұрын
Big 12 is already pretty much coast to coast with UCF. I hate that, but this is the new landscape of college football and Big 12 is positioning itself as the defacto #3 conference.
@secretagent73
@secretagent73 2 ай бұрын
Once it goes to pods the distances won't be so crazy. Probably 4 pods of 5 teams I expect. Group them regionally as possible. Edit: Not sure how we do that w UConn as a wait until 2031 for football member tho so...
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 ай бұрын
@@ostentatioussavant8215 If the BIG12 rises to #3, it won't matter at that point. The gap to the then P2 will be too wide.
@desertrat1111
@desertrat1111 2 ай бұрын
@@ostentatioussavant8215 Thats right. I forgot about UCF.
@simon2077
@simon2077 2 ай бұрын
That's as marquee in BB as it is Bama & Georgia in FB.
@stellarasset1578
@stellarasset1578 2 ай бұрын
I respect Yormark's vision to add UConn, however would the SEC become the premier basketball conference if they aquired UNC & Duke, if the ACC collapses?
@ostentatioussavant8215
@ostentatioussavant8215 2 ай бұрын
That seems like a pretty big if. I don't see the value in bringing in Duke. As an SEC fan, I'd like to see both of those schools end up in the Big 12. Please take Kentucky too.
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 ай бұрын
@@ostentatioussavant8215 a) There's no feasible path that I see that ends with UNC or likely DUKE in the BIG12. b) The SEC has wanted UNC for decades and had standing offers to it and DUKE for years. Measured by the Final Four over the past 10 years, the SEC has been the worst (now) P5 in men's basketball.
@WildkatPhoto
@WildkatPhoto 2 ай бұрын
Dude second time I have had to let a Prager U commercial run on one of your videos. 6 minutes this time.
@jeffersonsharp2292
@jeffersonsharp2292 2 ай бұрын
I say it's the best move right now. Then add 3-5 teams from the acc, split the conference into 2 divisions, sell the media rights for basketball and each division separately, pool and disperse. The league doesn't need to be a stack it deep and sell it cheap scheme, while still having arguably the biggest market in college athletics. Then if schools in the league step it up, we could challenge the power 2 in one or two decades.
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 ай бұрын
Why an even larger and wider Tier 2 BIG12?
@jeffersonsharp2292
@jeffersonsharp2292 2 ай бұрын
Market share. Playoff representation. I think, with the right pieces In place, the big12 could eventually challenge the the 'power 2'. Of course it needs to be done smartly, with market size likely being the highest value metric right now for future progression.
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 ай бұрын
@@jeffersonsharp2292 Once the gap reaches a point, there will be separate playoffs. The BIG12 has no feasible path to close the gap. It will either remain a relevant #4 or become an irrelevant #3.
@matt8495
@matt8495 2 ай бұрын
If the Big 12 wants to be a national conference then they need a school in the Northeast Megalopolis (Boston to Washington) where 55 million people live (1 of every 6 Americans). This region accounts for 20% of the United States GDP. The B1G invited Maryland and Rutgers which aren’t exactly football power houses, but the additions of these schools helped the B1G along with other factors to secure the most lucrative TV contract ever obtained by any conference.
@thomassweeney4494
@thomassweeney4494 2 ай бұрын
I have always wanted UConn. I have always wanted Gonzaga. The time to add is now. It is necessary to show the media partners the strength of your product before negotiating the next deal. Perhaps adding Gonzaga will bring the hesitant western schools to support the decision.
@JuanHernandez-rm5dm
@JuanHernandez-rm5dm 2 ай бұрын
I like Gonzaga.
@simon2077
@simon2077 2 ай бұрын
I like Gonzaga, but I'd rather have schools that are all in for all sports. UConn FB in 2031 makes since. If Gonzaga did that then yes, otherwise, no, unless we come to a separation of FB and BB revenues.
@thomassweeney4494
@thomassweeney4494 2 ай бұрын
Brett Yormark has put out the possibility of removing basketball from the contract and negotiating it separately. Part of me says the Big 12 receives a breakdown of the received for the broadcasts. If so, not paying Gonzaga for football is really simple.
@eddielozanosanantonioreale8735
@eddielozanosanantonioreale8735 2 ай бұрын
Basketball is a global sport
@americanhero1234
@americanhero1234 2 ай бұрын
Would to have UConn in the big 12
@Pluto2363
@Pluto2363 2 ай бұрын
I like UCONN in the B12 as they will be as good a basketball replacement for KU as you can get (if KU goes SEC).
@Alan-lv9rw
@Alan-lv9rw 2 ай бұрын
UConn just needs a level playing field in a power conference.
@Alan-lv9rw
@Alan-lv9rw 2 ай бұрын
FWIW, UConn would be the top academic school in the Big 12.
@ostentatioussavant8215
@ostentatioussavant8215 2 ай бұрын
Are they trans friendly?
@secretagent73
@secretagent73 2 ай бұрын
Not sure really what that is worth.
@Alan-lv9rw
@Alan-lv9rw 2 ай бұрын
@@secretagent73It doesn’t help or hurt much.
@TimothyPowlas-js1dh
@TimothyPowlas-js1dh 2 ай бұрын
I am not a fan of being a hybrid conference. This whole basketball in 2026 and football in 2031 seems unbalanced.
@jonathanwrehe8015
@jonathanwrehe8015 2 ай бұрын
It would be a huge win for big 12 though. It’s surprising they’d agree to no football for 5 more years. UConn elite in both basketball and good at baseball
@ostentatioussavant8215
@ostentatioussavant8215 2 ай бұрын
The Big 12 is going to have 20+ school. It literally doesn't matter one bit if a few of them don't participate in football.
@Facelessman276
@Facelessman276 2 ай бұрын
There is no reason for UConn to do it unless they come in as full member with full share and there’s no reason for The Big 12 to give them that. Don’t see this happening but I guess we’ll see
@jadebarben8537
@jadebarben8537 2 ай бұрын
We cannot add more teams unless it’s Clemson or FSU period, we are too big as it is
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 ай бұрын
FSU is ~100% to BIG12, CLEMSON is ~10%. If FSU needs a +1, who?
@TheBABoomer
@TheBABoomer 2 ай бұрын
Madness
@texaspride352
@texaspride352 2 ай бұрын
We that are in the Big 12 ( TCU fan) --we do not want U-Conn in the BIG 12.
@davidfloyd9134
@davidfloyd9134 2 ай бұрын
I don’t trust espn
@PacificoLightBeer
@PacificoLightBeer 2 ай бұрын
UConn would further elevate Big12s basketball profile, but I would probably be a no vote. They seem kinda weak outside of basketball.
@merl-bz1bx
@merl-bz1bx 2 ай бұрын
these might be nice stories but NIL and time out of the classroom and kids needing their rest are very important.
@realtruth2905
@realtruth2905 2 ай бұрын
UConn would be a no brain add to the B12. First, it is a state flagship university which means the state will always fund it no matter what. Second, it is ranked #58 academic school. This means it is easily one of the top schools is in the B12. Third, UConn football has been successful in the Big East. It won 2 Big East football championships and attended one BCS bowl. It's program was down due to 3 consecutive bad head coaching hires. Right now they got Jim Mora Jr as the head coach. UConn will surprise people this year, and make a bowl game. When UConn was winning, it drew close to 40k regularly. Fourth, you got 2 best basketball programs in the country. There is a serious chance UConn can win both men and women national championships this year. Both basketball programs are huge money makers for Uconn. Fifth, you got the support of the entire state. CT is bigger than KS, and it got no pro teams. Uconn is the state, and it will blow up in the Big 12. Sixth, UConn is a premier brand in college athletics. It will be one of the most valuable schools in the B12 in the coming years due to its overall makeup and the fact it is next to NYC media market.
@naujelbr
@naujelbr 2 ай бұрын
UConn got into a BCS bowl at 8-4, unranked. They got in on technicality, Big East standings were weird that year. Congrats, you’re getting in that bowl cemented the death of the Big East as a group of 5 league, maybe you can do the same to the Big 12.
@ostentatioussavant8215
@ostentatioussavant8215 2 ай бұрын
This is an athletic conference. Academics mean nothing. Leave your woke BS at home UCONN.
@realtruth2905
@realtruth2905 2 ай бұрын
​@@ostentatioussavant8215you might not care, school presidents certainly care.
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 ай бұрын
@@realtruth2905 BIG12 fans don't care about academic association nor overall sports, which is why it is considered a lessor by the other P4s.
@donstreit9468
@donstreit9468 2 ай бұрын
Are we really going to sit here and start thinking that Yormark doesn't know what he is doing? There is a reason why Alabama and the SEC want to badly improve their basketball. If the SEC is thinking their basketball conference needs to be improved dramatically right now, and go as far as floating KU moving to the SEC, Yormark is on to something with splitting basketball from football. If there was no money in it, the SEC would ignore it.
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 ай бұрын
Why wouldn't other conferences split the 2 sports as well?
@merl-bz1bx
@merl-bz1bx 2 ай бұрын
SEC has won NCAA championships in basketball. lots of tradition
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 ай бұрын
@@merl-bz1bx Measured by more recent Final Fours, the SEC is the worst "P". Final Four Appearances, 1st Rd Wins, Nattys (per Wiki 2015-2024. 2020 N/A) ACC: 9-5-3 B12: 5-3-2 (Excludes OK; includes Houston) BIGEAST: 6-4-4 SEC: 5-0-0 (Includes OK) B1G: 7-3-0 (Includes Oregon & UCLA)
@merl-bz1bx
@merl-bz1bx 2 ай бұрын
@@tarheel7406 eye balls is what really matters today
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 ай бұрын
@@merl-bz1bx "Eyeballs" matters to value. "Eyeballs" don't directly affect success. Again, the SEC has been the worst "P" in men's basketball per the provided measure.
@joeblow7407
@joeblow7407 2 ай бұрын
UConn always wanted to join ACC!
@joeblow7407
@joeblow7407 2 ай бұрын
This is fabricated nonsense!
@ostentatioussavant8215
@ostentatioussavant8215 2 ай бұрын
Don't think anyone wants to join the ACC now.
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 ай бұрын
@@ostentatioussavant8215 Only G5s and BYU wanted to join the BIG12. Remember every BIG12 member wanted to leave after the TX/OK news. None were wanted.
@davidzitzkat289
@davidzitzkat289 2 ай бұрын
Dave Replies: But the ACC didn't want us. Now they are falling apart. Screw them. And UCONN is a big state school, and The Big East is a bunch of small Catholic Schools, Churches with Gyms attached. We don't belong there either.. The Big 12 and the Big 10 are conferences with schools like us. I like the idea of joining in 2026 in everything but football and joining in football in 2031 is a good idea. One Proviso: The Big 12 should agree for us to play every school in that league in football without us joining them once every two year before we join in football. The reason, if we play Big 12 schools every year we can start recruiting on that level.
@davidzitzkat289
@davidzitzkat289 2 ай бұрын
You got that right
@merl-bz1bx
@merl-bz1bx 2 ай бұрын
I think he wants the league to be basketball. makes sense. NE guy
@leslieahill8928
@leslieahill8928 2 ай бұрын
So doesn't the Acc make the counter offer or can they ?
@JohnDry-d7z
@JohnDry-d7z 2 ай бұрын
Not untill schools leave, the ACC might not have money for UConn.
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 ай бұрын
How many times has the ACC passed on UCONN?
@JohnDry-d7z
@JohnDry-d7z 2 ай бұрын
@@tarheel7406 FL St lost to GT. 😂 the ACC sucks
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 ай бұрын
@@JohnDry-d7z So moronic. You would claim such an upset in the BIG12 as proof of strength. The BIG12 is objectively the worst current P4.
@Dugger1991
@Dugger1991 2 ай бұрын
Big 12 definitely over ACC
@kevingray3690
@kevingray3690 2 ай бұрын
The new AAC
@sarahmccoy1941
@sarahmccoy1941 2 ай бұрын
UConn to the Big XII may be possible, but why does the Big XII need UConn? Their only strength is basketball and the Big XII already has the best basketball conference. They stink in most other sports. UConn will just be another long travel venue for Big XII teams.
@JAY-JAY74
@JAY-JAY74 2 ай бұрын
BIG12: Take Miami, NC State, VTech & GTech for all sports.
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 ай бұрын
Why would there be mutual interest?
@merl-bz1bx
@merl-bz1bx 2 ай бұрын
NIL is most important today. we know it
@randycrownover5580
@randycrownover5580 2 ай бұрын
UConn, yay, rah, rah, rah! Next comes Gonzaga and Boise State! Go B12!
@davidzitzkat289
@davidzitzkat289 2 ай бұрын
Nope Let's go for Syracuse and some ACC schools. We need more Eastern US Schools not Western Schools. You eventually want to have a playoff in football and basketball East vs West. Syracuse has good football and decent basketball as does West Verginia. I would skip Boston College because they are not great in Football or Basketball. Duke and the Carolinas are good in both.
@lukefletcher4689
@lukefletcher4689 2 ай бұрын
Shows that the XII is #4in P4
@dfausti66
@dfausti66 2 ай бұрын
John, I think we need to stop imagining all collegiate athletic conferences as a variation on the same thing because they are not. The Big 12 is a disruptive innovator as a strategy to be different in its value proposition. Commissioner Yormark has already made this conference culture quite clear. I just don't know why conference podcasters are ignoring what the commissioner is saying. Instead podcasters focus on what other sports media people are saying. This is where the mistake is!
@merl-bz1bx
@merl-bz1bx 2 ай бұрын
taking food out of your mouth won't fly
@icestationzebra8636
@icestationzebra8636 2 ай бұрын
UConn, Miami, SDSU, OSU. Then you have a coast to coast league.
@ostentatioussavant8215
@ostentatioussavant8215 2 ай бұрын
Should be setting your sights higher than that. Teams like Duke, not SDSU which has no place in even the 3rd best conference.
@DayOneRob
@DayOneRob 2 ай бұрын
UConn, Miami. SDSU, and OSU! SDSU has plenty to offer the BIG12! Especially in basketball, SoCal market, on campus basketball and new football stadium. SDSU is target rich for the BIG12!
@BoomGoesTheDynamit
@BoomGoesTheDynamit 2 ай бұрын
non it’s not! They play football. This is clickbait pod
@mrsteve3527
@mrsteve3527 2 ай бұрын
So John thinks the SEC is comparable in basketball to the B 12 right now. One of the many reasons you can't take him seriously. His whole world is seen thru the purple lens he wears.
@INFAMOUSfrontRunn3r
@INFAMOUSfrontRunn3r 2 ай бұрын
JK is hard to take. His tone, beta boi, soy boi attitude is so weak. I cant stand to listen to him for more than a few minutes. I made it 3:33 this time
@ostentatioussavant8215
@ostentatioussavant8215 2 ай бұрын
@@INFAMOUSfrontRunn3r All wh1te people are like that.
@dallasshipley9118
@dallasshipley9118 2 ай бұрын
Kansas is not going to the SEC. UConn would be great for the Big 12 and strengthen the east side of the conference.
@INFAMOUSfrontRunn3r
@INFAMOUSfrontRunn3r 2 ай бұрын
This whole kansas to the SEC is absurd. ESPN isnt going to pay $65m for KU or any other team. UNC and UVA will get in, maybe, for pennies on the dollar for a very very long time. Plus KU is under contract with FOX. Does anyone really think FOX will just let KU walk off to ESPN without a fight?😂😂😂😂
@ostentatioussavant8215
@ostentatioussavant8215 2 ай бұрын
@@INFAMOUSfrontRunn3r The Big 12 contract is with ESPN and Fox, not just Fox. ESPN gets first pick of games, so from that perspective most KU games will be broadcast by Fox. That being said, SEC would rather drop Kentucky than add Kansas.
@INFAMOUSfrontRunn3r
@INFAMOUSfrontRunn3r 2 ай бұрын
@@ostentatioussavant8215 yes i know...but fox is still in the contract...correct?
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 ай бұрын
@@INFAMOUSfrontRunn3r Delusional....
@simon2077
@simon2077 2 ай бұрын
By adding UConn, Kansas isn't going anywhere.
@cgtonic3637
@cgtonic3637 2 ай бұрын
ESPN is helping fund UConn to join the B12 instead of the ACC, a conference they fully own the rights to. It sounds like ESPN is done with them
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 ай бұрын
The ACC doesn't want UCONN.
@cgtonic3637
@cgtonic3637 2 ай бұрын
@@tarheel7406 The ACC is dying lol
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 ай бұрын
@@cgtonic3637 The BIG12 is already dead.
@INFAMOUSfrontRunn3r
@INFAMOUSfrontRunn3r 2 ай бұрын
​@@tarheel7406😂😂😂😂the ACC is trash
@ostentatioussavant8215
@ostentatioussavant8215 2 ай бұрын
Nah, they just know the conference is falling apart. ESPN would love to keep them locked in at that super cheap rate.
@davidfloyd9134
@davidfloyd9134 2 ай бұрын
The question is how does the Big10 & SEC or CFP view this add?
@ostentatioussavant8215
@ostentatioussavant8215 2 ай бұрын
Don't care one bit.
@MatthewWalsh-h3b
@MatthewWalsh-h3b 2 ай бұрын
Wonder if ACC has any interest in Huskies? Makes sense for B12 to add them if that is the case. Hope Big 12 hoops tourney is always in KC and not NYC.
@NA.NA..
@NA.NA.. 2 ай бұрын
NYC would be way better than KC
@ostentatioussavant8215
@ostentatioussavant8215 2 ай бұрын
Why in the hell would Uconn have interest in joining a dying conference with crap payouts?
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 ай бұрын
@@ostentatioussavant8215 The BIG12 is already dead and has crap payouts. Nevertheless, it's clear that the ACC has little interest in UCONN.
@CreightonRabs
@CreightonRabs 2 ай бұрын
If the ACC ever had interest in UConn in the first place, then the ACC would've snagged UConn when the Big East broke apart about a decade ago.
@NA.NA..
@NA.NA.. 2 ай бұрын
@@ostentatioussavant8215 what do you think the Big east is
@Chris-jv3xp
@Chris-jv3xp 2 ай бұрын
I think a UConn add lowers the chance of ACC adds. I’m starting to think the ACC stays together?
@simon2077
@simon2077 2 ай бұрын
That's not true if their FB isn't being added until 2031. A lot can change over that period of time that UConn can prepare for.
@RAJohns
@RAJohns 2 ай бұрын
UConn would be a better fit for ACC, obviously. Big-12 needs to get real with South Florida.
@guybuckhannon
@guybuckhannon 2 ай бұрын
sure, when you see a dumpster fire, jump on in!
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 ай бұрын
@@guybuckhannon The BIG12 is what's left after a dumpster fire. No self-awareness.
@RAJohns
@RAJohns 2 ай бұрын
@@guybuckhannon Like Central Florida?
@guybuckhannon
@guybuckhannon 2 ай бұрын
@@RAJohns if you're an ACC fan, don't blink, this time next year, the remaining power 3 conferences will be conducting interviews
@RAJohns
@RAJohns 2 ай бұрын
@@guybuckhannon ACC can survive. If Florida St. and UNC and Clemson want to leave the SEC is there if they want to them. They don’t. UConn is a stupid fit for the BIG 12. Brett Yormark is overrated. The 4 PAC-12 schools fell right in his lap.
@grobble8954
@grobble8954 2 ай бұрын
Its BS. Uconn is a bball school. They new admin smartly curtailed the silky football adpirations. The reason UConn mens bball has comecback is having the actual Big East old rivalries and kids realizing bball is #1, thats where they are allocating money. Uconn bball revenue is #4 nationally
@davidzitzkat289
@davidzitzkat289 2 ай бұрын
UConn basketball would attract a crowd in the middle of the Sahara Desert! By the way, UConn men didn't "come back" Since 1999 we have won six National championships on the men's side and the women altogether have won 11.This year we will add one more to both the men and the women. I think the next closest on the mens side is North Carolina. Kansas is pretty good too, but they have done nothing on the women's side
@grobble8954
@grobble8954 2 ай бұрын
@davidzitzkat289 I'm a Uconn fan. They did comeback, they had a horrible stretch of years before Hurley. Yes the Bog East has helped recruiting. It also has helped attendance and atmosphere actually having rivalries. Nobody gives a crap about by playing Wichita St and many of the other AAC opponents, other than that win. UConn going to B12 would be a money grab that willed poorly when the eventual Big 2 in football officially happens, it's already there in theory.
@Frog2theRRR
@Frog2theRRR 2 ай бұрын
For the love of God NOOOOO!!! UConn bball is great but Football is complete 💩💩💩💩 Overall there are many programs to wait for. The ACC is gonna crash. All those brands add more across the border Stop the madness.
@markschroeter9565
@markschroeter9565 2 ай бұрын
Still should wait to see what happens to the ACC first. UConn will always be there if needed.
@davidzitzkat289
@davidzitzkat289 2 ай бұрын
Don't count on it.
@yellowmartian
@yellowmartian 2 ай бұрын
No thanks to UConn.
@jasonjames1697
@jasonjames1697 2 ай бұрын
Seems to me the Big12 is very desperate.
@secretagent73
@secretagent73 2 ай бұрын
The ACC is about to fall apart, we're growing and innovative, exciting football season with 4 new members for a second consecutive year, and we're desperate? Doesn't compute.
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 ай бұрын
@@secretagent73 The BIG12 has already fallen apart.
@secretagent73
@secretagent73 2 ай бұрын
@@tarheel7406 incorrect. The B12 lost members but is in fact still a power conference, thriving at that. The ACC will either be a relic of history or a MAC competitor in the near future. But tell yourself whatever you need to, to cope I guess.
@TexasFootballChannel
@TexasFootballChannel 2 ай бұрын
​@@tarheel7406 Are you a nazi ? Why do you wish to send athletes to the gas chambers ? What have these athletes done to you ? U N B E L I E V A B L E
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 ай бұрын
@@secretagent73 Compare the original BIG12 with the new. The latter is all Tier 1 rejects and G5 equivalents. The B12 survived as a Tier 2. What is the measure for thriving?
@FinallyTuned
@FinallyTuned 2 ай бұрын
Yormark gonna be long gone by 2030.
@markkim663
@markkim663 2 ай бұрын
Brett yormark is making a big mistake here with UConn.
@ostentatioussavant8215
@ostentatioussavant8215 2 ай бұрын
not so fast my friend.
@stevenewell9751
@stevenewell9751 2 ай бұрын
No D1 football, no B12 membership
@ostentatioussavant8215
@ostentatioussavant8215 2 ай бұрын
Uconn does have D1 football, but my question is why that should be a requirement?
@txdoubletap8509
@txdoubletap8509 2 ай бұрын
Just say no 🤬🤬🤬🤬
@ronon3849
@ronon3849 2 ай бұрын
Just more desperation by the Big XII.
@HoustonCougarsGermany
@HoustonCougarsGermany 2 ай бұрын
Oh wow . . . really ???? OH MY GOD!
@rumesh_lance
@rumesh_lance 2 ай бұрын
This is actually useless and hope its just talks
@clintlewis1715
@clintlewis1715 2 ай бұрын
Goodness, here we go again. I feel like this poor horse has already been sufficiently beat to death. I said it last year and I will say it again, UConn isn't going to be added to the Big 12. The only real question you need to ask is, would the Big 12's media partners (ESPN and Fox) be willing to pony up more $$$$ to add UConn? I think we all know the answer to that question. Getting enough votes in the Big 12 to add UConn is about as realistic as FSU and Clemson deciding to join the Big 12. Yeah, I don't see either scenario happening. Per ESPN Aug 23, 2024 ~ "No vote has occurred for a potential Huskies membership, nor is one close to happening, as sources cautioned that there has been pushback among several members that would need to be overcome." (THAT'S A KEY NOTE) Per ESPN Aug 23, 2024 ~ "I think the word is 'premature,'" a high-ranking Big 12 official said. "There's a far distance between conversations and anything that would happen. The presidents haven't seen the case yet." Per ESPN Aug 23, 2024 ~ "multiple athletic directors within the Big 12 have been outspoken against it" (THAT'S A KEY NOTE) Per the AP Aug 23, 2024 ~ "The people who spoke to the AP said a definitive decision for either side is not imminent and Yormark must still build consensus among his members." Per CBS Aug 23, 2024 ~ "It's uncertain at this stage if Big 12 presidents are willing to flip their stance on UConn." Per BleacherReport Aug 23, 2024 ~ "UConn would need 12 of 16 league members to accept the school into the league "in a president-level vote." Per BleacherReport Aug 23, 2024 ~ "Contingent upon the school meeting certain investment thresholds in the sport, UConn football would join the Big 12 in 2031."
@naujelbr
@naujelbr 2 ай бұрын
Welcome to the Group of 5 Big 12 fans, that’s what you are!
@CarlAdams-lc6oz
@CarlAdams-lc6oz 2 ай бұрын
UConn is more valuable than half the ACC.
@Joe-sm9qj
@Joe-sm9qj 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for welcoming us to the likes of the ACC.
@JohnDry-d7z
@JohnDry-d7z 2 ай бұрын
The ACC is about to be G5 schools. The SEC, and the B10 sucks at basketball.😂
@Joe-sm9qj
@Joe-sm9qj 2 ай бұрын
@@naujelbr The only good team in the ACC is getting beat by unranked opponent.
@tarheel7406
@tarheel7406 2 ай бұрын
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