UFC 4 - CLINCH Mechanics Breakdown 101

[@ashp6677]

This helped alot... problem is my muscle memory or whatever is really holding me back,I keep holding R2 and down on the stick to deny takedowns 🤦‍♂️😂

[@alexanderterrell2367]

No cap lol every time I get grabbed for takedown I automatically go for the r2 down motion as well lol I miss every takedown attempt cuz of that n lose fights in decision cuz of it

[@killmoncher7706]

I have not defended 1 takedown yet

[@ryanlarose1853]

Kill Moncher same lol 😂

[@EzRedits]

Xbox but the same pain 🤕

[@jc-ke6kw]

lmao same, but i think the more we play the game the more we’ll get used to the new mechanics hopefully

[@garrybussell]

Why isn’t there a transition hud for the clinch, this really grinds my gears

[@TristanSander]

Yea ik like wtf

[@Lavieestunsonge]

Fluidity is the key word here, I’d say. Much more fluent grappling/gaming experience, I like it a lot

[@adamsandle7265]

Diyogenes same here

[@antonino7100]

I would much prefer the hud

[@sleepyjoe4824]

I prefer it like this

[@mrjoey94]

Characters like Khabib, DC and even Dan Severn are going to feel more life-like to play with these systems, which is great because I enjoyed playing them casually in UFC 3. Really practicing these mechanics will make you miserable to fight against online. *Devil Smile*

[@1thelastmystic]

God damn grapplers I hate you and love you. Thumbs sideways lol

[@MikeyBizzle4Shizzle]

Grapplers make the game less predictable which although is a pain it creates a more stimulating experience bc you can develop a specific fighting style. I made my CAF not very strong but with emphasis on speed accuracy cardio so I work the body for a couple rounds with the intent of clinching into a sweep/takedown then use a strong submission game. Nothing pisses ppl online off more then getting submitted

[@omar619kamis]

@@MikeyBizzle4Shizzle im probably what you guys hate the most in game. Just hard-core grappler. I literally can't stand fighting on foot, you gass out and somehow get stunned out of blue. I practice like 4 or 6 hours a day lol. Once I put guy on ground he's done

[@MikeyBizzle4Shizzle]

@@omar619kamis you’ve prob whooped my ass if u ever see a CAF named iam_MikeyB we’ve probably fought

[@andrique1]

@@omar619kamis same i make these dudes rage quit with my grappling

[@tomoscaioaprhun7899]

This is great, thank you! So glad I discovered your channel 👍

[@authentickaleeb2578]

Bro haven’t had much success in the clinch in this game and bro this video just helped me appreciate it boss

[@Brandon_N420]

It looks like the grappling will be really fun, once you get everything down. I did really enjoy the clinch game in the beta. It all felt very fluid.

[@bulletantwrestling8947]

Clinch spam has never been easier, it was a problem in the last game too

[@thegent8916]

I see what you mean, but implementing it as an extension of the stand up was a great play. It may very well need tweaking, but it's a vast improvement to the gameplay.

[@bulletantwrestling8947]

The Gent all they need to do is make block hold longer, for whatever reason they’ve decided to make it weak as piss this game

[@ficedulamortis6434]

Clinch spam wasn't a problem in UFC 3, just deny the guys transitions, but now it is real. There is no way to deny the clinch, except for unloading shots which kills your stamina, or taking a huge risk and slipping the clinch, but if they happen to throw a hook instead you're fucked.

[@bulletantwrestling8947]

James Roush I know that much but lots of people I spoke to couldn’t deny it or couldn’t get the timing down, for lots of people it was a problem, but it’s worse now

[@BMT000]

But in the last game you could actually deny it!! People sre actually spamming like 25 clinch attempts in a fight on UFC4. In UFC3 it was super super easy to deny when you knew that the guy is a spammer, on UFC4 you just know that someone isnt doing anything else than clinching but u still cant block it 🤔

[@ilionmmai5982]

Any idea when we can see more career everyone elses careers are soo boring and make the game look shit why I enjoy watching your career

[@zero-cool-ire3788]

Agreed, of all the videos out so far, Bay's career is the one that sells me on this game. EA should be pushing these vids out there.

[@lukegoldx]

oh shit what up discord fam. what league did u join after the break up.

[@matthewcalhoun4011]

this guy has s very official sounding voice

[@tylerarthur968]

How do you deny things now that there's a button system instead of moving the right analogue stick? I hope you can still deny the clinch transitions if you recognise what is coming.

[@tomgoodman1965]

Wondering the same thing. I saw an AI transition for SUB to DOM after I clinched him. Or is it just timing with the left stick that results in occasional counters? I can't seem to upgrade clinch transitions in career and I'm 'swimming' all the time from one position to the other.

[@bubby6523]

When I try to clinch it just leads to a hook

[@baked_from_a_bong]

Bruh wtf u talking about when u say press “R1” + “pummel” I have no clue what a pummel is on a controller

[@SeyyedValli]

😂😂😂

[@yamanzdo6791]

Omg😂

[@shagcarpet1970]

Awesome. I love to grapple in these games and this new clinch just seems so fun to give me a variety of ways to get my opponent to the ground.

[@AnishKumar-qd3jx]

Really excited to use Maia with the backpack position in the game! Is this the final build of the game? Will there be more clinch positions added? I'm disappointed that they removed double under and cage control clinch

[@ashp6677]

They havnt removed double under

[@LazerProphet]

@@ashp6677 how do you get double under? i haven't seen it

[@ashp6677]

@@LazerProphet If you go for a double leg takedown and cancel it as your fighter grabs the opponent he will mover up to double under

[@comparedeath7589]

@@ashp6677 is canceling done by r2

[@wmc128]

UFC 4 Clinch positions are single collar, Thai plum,Thai whip,back suplex hold, and backpack. Double under and over under have been removed.

[@fenixtech1342]

If you can get some on screen visualisation of the buttons it would really help watching these. There's a million different inputs so being able to skip to the section of the video and just seeing what you're pressing visually would be really easy to follow.

[@slipknuts]

im still trying to figure out clinch transitions even after you kind of explained it. I think I’m so used to pushing the right stick to transition that I’m finding it reallly hard to remember how the fuck to do it now during a fight lol. it’s definitely a learning curve. I’ve got 5 hours left of trial and I’m still having abit of a tough go lol

[@foofightersyourdad7658]

@Trash picking Pete not hard to convert 4 buttons man.

[@asscheeks1392]

Trash picking Pete u can’t be that dumb?

[@ningahunter5849]

Haroon Shane yea dude seems slow asf 😂😂, the creator even said what buttons for both console on certain parts.

[@TheTitFlop]

Love it! Thanks! The clinch game is one of the things i look forward to the most! Gonna make a Khabib 2.0 CAF... (Not Chimaev xD)

[@vatossureno]

Why not chimaev

[@mmamannen8337]

Im a master in the UFC3 clinch, now I have to learn all this, got damn XD. Looks very cool tho, looking forward to it!!

[@vatossureno]

Master pshhh you Got ps4 fight me?

[@eduardomoisa1232]

👀

[@timscam4234]

How about the double under for the heavy or normal bodylocks.?

[@prestoncampagna9446]

I'm trying to figure that out still, is there a way to suplex them from the back???

[@erickchavez4726]

@@prestoncampagna9446 yes

[@prestoncampagna9446]

@@erickchavez4726 how

[@erickchavez4726]

@@prestoncampagna9446 Its kinda complicated but ill try to explain. You have to clinch your oponent and push him against the cage. Then with the left analog stick you flick it up or down (depending where your oponents back is facing). Then you click RB and X (XBOX) or R1 and Square (PLAYSTATION). Hopefully that helps.

[@TheRealestEric]

I wish it wasn't so easy to escape from the clench, dammit. I love using the clench (Muay Thai fighter at heart, I guess. Shogun during the PRIDE days is my favorite fighter) but every time I hold a clench they just like, Batman ninja escape from it right away.

[@21bravopunk61]

My copy arrives tomorrow. This is going to be so helpful. Thanks man.

[@ufc_enthusiast4498]

My biggest issue is KEEPING someone in the clinch. It seems every time I initiate the clinch, they just get out immediately

[@matthewmelange]

It's kind of shocking that there isn't a direction pad like there is for wrestling with clinch work.

[@Po00oley]

If the clinch had a hud then this system would be perfect

[@zanguauvaitomacu4925]

@@Po00oley it would have to be slower tho

[@captainaustria3379]

Clinch hits look so dirty, I love it

[@CoreyB478]

I’m really enjoying your content brother keep me coming can’t for it to drop

[@nomad5602]

Eww

[@masquerade3078]

@@nomad5602 😳😂😂😂

[@twan757va]

Gonna be a. Big adjustment

[@teamkhabib7217]

Cant stop the knees to the head in the clinch, block it and your block will go away fast then you'll get ko'ed. Try to get out of it and you will also be ko'ed

[@karlisyourpapi8479]

I was wondering how I was taking the back in the beta didnt know it was holding the left stick down, cheers for the video bayliun.

[@l.k.4149]

Best UFC 4 series out there!

[@krimmeltje]

Good to see your subs going up, you deserve it. Great content :)

[@chosen1163]

Your the GOAT! Not even the top guys are this descriptive

[@West5ideKillZ]

Anyone know if you can get out of the defensive position if you’re against the fence?

[@MassimilianoVisconti1234]

i mean it's pretty hard, but I think the only way it's to cover up your face and body, and just try to get out, at some point I think you will

[@johnnymontana8271]

@@MassimilianoVisconti1234 useless comment you just left mate

[@eyeballpaul700]

@@MassimilianoVisconti1234 just try to get out? That has to be the worst advice I've ever heard

[@JoeBrannin]

This game doesn’t let me clinch. RB and button my guy just fucking stands there

[@daveshadenuff187]

I'm surprised there is no foot stomps with USMAN lol.Other then that,thanx a lot man,you made it make a lot more sense.This one unlike the other games doesn't give you options like they did when your in the clinch.So coming from those games it will take a lot of getting use to,unlike someone not coming from the other games.I feel they will have it easier,then someone use to past games of the EA UFC series.Also new sub here and keep up the great content man!!!

[@raypace9349]

You know there’s still ALOT more unanswered questions about cage clinch.. how do you deny the drag downs and how do you keep people against the cage?

[@S1Roni]

Bayliun from MMA on Point thanks for the video, I just subscribed :)

[@coltonlewellyn6534]

I literally can’t go behind in the clinch and I don’t know what I’m doing wrong

[@gabrielblanco8406]

Same dude I’m following every part of his given instructions and I still can’t get into the back clinch.

[@lotasif.6688]

this is a back clinch off the cage manz . Idk how to back clinch when not on it tho 🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️

[@coltonlewellyn6534]

Yeah you have to be on the cage then do it

[@eduardotrevino5843]

Broo this helped so much😭🫡

[@MorrisseyMuse]

Thanks alot for this mate! I just can't get used to these controls, it feels so weird R1 and one button being an overhead punch and R1 and the other button being clinch! And I'm throwing punches with the left stick on the ground and transitioning instead. It's got potential but my brain does not compute it lol

[@dennisreardanz1517]

Hell yeah. You the man this is what ive been waiting to see

[@markalken7976]

The grappling in this is pretty fun actually. I've been able to pull off the rare Peruvian and Japanese Necktie and the Bulldog Choke. And my character's a kick boxer! However there's one technique that I can't learn to save my life. It's the Osoto Gari takedown. I know the input says L1 + Square and X on PS4, but I'm also a southpaw. When I try it, I just uppercut instead. I'd love if you did a video on how to pull off the Osoto Gari, Bayliun.

[@monney21gaming58]

sorry for the late response but do L1 +circle+ triangle

[@remyhamel8694]

It's pissing me off how they haven't fixed the tutorials and other things to show the right things for southpaws.

[@SpotEdit]

Great video! Would love more like this for striking/grappling etc

[@michska53]

How do you exactly defend against trips and hip tosses?

[@TG-ev6cn]

Really enjoyed the vid but do you have to press another button to do a power takedown or is it random

[@java21jv]

At 1:55 we went from 0-100 reallllll quick lol. Great vid though, super informative and clear. Just so much info that im gonna have to rewatch so I can stop getting my ass beat when I’m not able to throw absolute bombs from my left over fight night skills hahah.

[@CsRuler]

I might have missed the part where its said but how can i deny enemies transition in clinch? And is takedown defense always r2+l2? Because sometimes i get taken down even if i press both

[@CsRuler]

@@Bayliun thx for the answer buddy :) and how can I transition in a defensive clinch position? Didnt figured it out yet.

[@theuniverse7227]

I love the new clinch game! Keeps things unpredictable

[@harveyquill9677]

Man I love the look of the clinch

[@killmoncher7706]

They did such a good job with the clinch, so smooth, hopefully they overhaul the ground game next

[@mpomp6378]

Had no idea about button inputs I thought all transitions were analog based. Great video!

[@joshhood4189]

Can you put the button inputs on the screen as I have no idea what to press to get to half of these positions. Apart from that great video

[@JoshSTEELERS]

How do you get off the fence when they push your back up against? I keep starting in the clinch and then get stuck up against the cage.

[@raexv1]

this is almost an over the top overhaul, the more fluid clinch game is a welcomed change, but it would’ve been better if they found a way to incorporate that using the same or at least familiar control scheme, using the face buttons all of a sudden for transition when through out the whole series it been with the right stick is so complicated it feels like. especially when the ground game has stayed the same. and takedowns being with face buttons is a really short sighted change, the face buttons are associated and are still also used for strikes, we associate the face buttons for striking, it’s prevalent as such in most combat or fighting games. the fact the only difference in controls in throwing a strike the the body, or initiating a takedown is simply the left stick moving towards your opponent is ridiculous, the amount of times i’ve been trying to close the distance and move forward and then throwing a left straight to the body and then end up doing a takedown is ridiculous. they’re using a set of 4 buttons for way too wide a range of actions and only adding slight variations, now the right stick is essentially just used to head movement. it made far more sense to have it used for grappling with the added input of the left trigger. it created more distinction between input combinations and the corresponding action, now you have to remember a few number of inputs in different variable combinations for far too many different animations, rather than just having the remember the far more simply and logical, face buttons = striking options, right stick = grappling options, and then breaking down the combinations from there by adding in the bumpers and triggers for more variables. really disappointed with ufc 4 because of this, frequently find myself playing more stand and bang matches now which is a shame because then you don’t get the same complex and nuanced mma experience like that

[@cambino6675]

How do you take the back when clinching? Can't figure it out

[@thomascat4872]

EA for the love of god PLEASE put on screen prompts for clinch controls lmao

[@joesizlack]

Just FYI, it's dominant and submissive position like in jiu jitsu. Also you called the Thai clinch whip over under

[@bamaboitube8572]

Yes this helped out a lot 😂💯

[@theroadrunner7795]

Thank you this has helped alot

[@Crashmandefoot]

Very good and easy to understand thank you

[@DC_92]

All R1 + square is doing is those massive overhand looping punches??!! Driving me insane. Anyone else ??

[@BIGGLO061]

I clocked the game I didn’t like it overall so I just ended up snapping the disk now I feel better back to UFC 2 I go 🦾💯

[@Raussno]

I can’t seem to get out of the clinch when someone takes my back or Jones gets the standing headlock. Can anyone help?

[@phillmcrack7876]

When you push their head down, can you go straight to the back clinch?

[@mmi4745]

Bayliun so there is realistically only two positions in the clinch

[@metehan7878]

Playing ufc 3 and it being my first bought ufc game. I hated on people who complained about the game until I nearly mastered the 3rd and started 4 being completely uncomfortable. I feel y’all now. Lol sorry

[@dee8263]

Thanks. Great content.

[@b2bclutchyuh887]

That sub cheese has given me 3 losses so far. They all literally just came out in rd 1 and clinched and put me in a sub that drained all my energy and subbed me.

[@angelicalistic]

I'm trying to find out how to perform the bjj takedown that pulls your opponent on top of you. Pull Guard - Over Under, but I don't know how to get it so my arms wrap around them.

[@sonnydortmund1513]

Nothing worse than being stuck in the clinch !!!!! 😡🤬 Thankyou, good Sir. 🙏🏻👊🏻

[@alfieoday9672]

MMA on point still providing

[@Bayliun]

I'm full time now, have been for several months!

[@adamstephenson7518]

Holy shit it's the MMA on point dude!!

[@bcrayz1007]

I just don't understand why they couldn't apply a hub for clinch. Once you intitiate clinch your left to figure it out yourself!

[@remycris2108]

I don’t understand why two different actions are the same combination of buttons. Rb and x is to initiate the clinch, but also the same button for an overhand left, wanderlie Silva can’t clinch I tried it wtf

[@bradleyson]

How do you deny a transition in clinch? If the sub fighter hit R1 + Triangle, how do I stop it?

[@Messithemaven]

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[@Messithemaven]

@bayliun so there is no denying in clinch like the ground game??

[@monfronmesfesses]

You the Best bro 💯💯💯

[@adamboof6769]

Thank you

[@richardlee5486]

Disappointed they didn’t include cm punk s signature sloth guard from clinch

[@kebobtheblackbeastmcgregor706]

Nice vid bro!

[@scifiwriter1589]

How do you push and pull your opponent? You left that part out.

[@damianramrajh5994]

Does anyone know how you get to back clinch without first getting against the cage?

[@Spartanmomo]

So...you have little to no control over where you go in the clinch ? I don’t like that why do I have to strike to get to another position ?

[@TopNiness]

Yeah ikr wtf? And there's also no double under..? You also can't take their back while standing unless they're against the cage?? Tf

[@mr.niceguy777]

@@TopNiness I've see footage of another KZbinr who took a guys back away from the cage.

[@blackxperry]

the clinch is the only big improvement they made in this game, why are u guys complaining about literally the only good thing there is

[@Spartanmomo]

blackxperry cause it’s not good lol the only good thing is not even good. It’s stripped down of its complexity increased randomness and little to no variation

[@sumsolution5113]

Gotta appreciate this

[@jordshot1543]

earned a sub👍, more tutorials the better👍👍

[@joeystephany5245]

Exactly the content I was looking for. Seeing gameplay is great but getting a jump start on the new changes to controller is 👍👏👏

[@geofreyp91]

I can’t figure out how to use the body hooks? It says hold LT - LB X or Y. I can’t seem to work it out I’ve tried several different approaches

[@mr11981]

Really helpful, although I’ve noticed that once either person clinches they go immediately to single over under. even if I initiate the clinch they end up dominate so it’s race to switch to single over under

[@j.krollin1307]

I looks good, but it's not good tbh

[@paulfolta6214]

You can jump on some ones back it's a deadly move.. but I won't tell you how to do it.. thanks bro

[@Nateeahco]

Wait I’ve gotten behind someone’s back in standup clinch without being near cage can you teach how to swim in the clinch

[@michaelh3715]

Helpful, thanks

[@Vxbxzz]

How do you prevent someone from escaping the clinch

[@FeaRxEcHoGaming]

they need this same fluidity with the ground

[@thessbest123]

It is fluid. You haven't seen enough probably because youtubers dont post a lot of the ground mechanics they have added. The ground and pound is the only thing that really looks bad imo.

[@FeaRxEcHoGaming]

@@thessbest123 played with the ground since 2015 and it has barely changed, stamina meta still there and the fight is slowed down when someone is denied, that wont change this game as its too big a change and is core to the game, played 110 fights of the ufc 4 beta and won 86, GNP is also bad it will get stale quick, ground has been stale since ufc 2 with minor changes to positions, getting to the ground looks good but being there is the same shit from UFC 1

[@Lumpas2]

Hi, can you please show us the new submissions, eventually kicks, punches, etc.? Ty

[@MMAFRoO]

Is it possible to CATCH knee strikes to the body or even head in the defensive collar position to either throw a strike or perform a trip?

[@gavmctear1221]

So no he means

[@jaedonmossberg4415]

R1 and lead uppercut is how u push them away when they go for clinch

[@stavyhyenaface_2369]

What does he mean by hold down L1 and “Pumel”

[@giagogiuffrida-munhoz1879]

Transition

[@raymondfitzjohn5838]

Jab button

[@iamcrackmanjones]

How do you climb on their back? You never said that

[@dblzyy]

Can you stop them from escaping the clinch?

[@KingNez89]

Should show button schemes on screen.

[@marcelito185]

How do you stop them from escaping the clinch

[@1006innakey]

How do you climb up the back you didn’t explain that at all