UG Krishnamurti - Who Am I - The question has no meaning

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[@jaysdarkfiles1232]

Hmmmm....Bob....I don't know if I make myself clear!!! Love UG!!

[@manjunathr6902]

I watching vedios of u g from past one year and reading mind is myth. Luck to have u g.

[@Delusionslayer]

Who Am' I .... Is a silly question .... well said UG.... UG very well ahead of his time.

[@slavomirakrasna2111]

24601!

[@cynicsiddha9851]

He's THE BOSS...

[@slavomirakrasna2111]

Yep, there was Boss, then Bob, and then a reindeer🖤

[@TheHotrodracing]

The point of the "who am I" - question, isn't meant to have an answer, but to bring you back to the body.

[@tencups2778]

Bring you back to your Self, your true nature!

[@Ashish-nd3xj]

@@tencups2778 that's all bullshit

[@user-pt4qd8fs8k]

YES! (Body of knowledge/memory)

[@PrajwalBP12]

In ignorance the question makes sense, ignorance is two !! .. Once realised , there is no question .

[@slavomirakrasna2111]

In ignorance, answers you got from the others don’t make sense, that’s why you find asking the questions about those answers-sensible. So much for 2

[@anushanker46]

It must have been exhausting for this individual to go on denouncing, rejecting, ridiculing, condemning and falsifying purely for the sake of it...Unlike all the other gurus (whom he refers to as monsters), not once has he managed to hold his argument with either 'scientific' reasoning (western approach), or on the ground of experiental knowledge (Eastern approach). Poor Mahesh Bhatt!

[@VenkatGururajan]

Really very happy to see this comment!

[@vish6306]

He was a Jack Ass of the highest order. Sour grapes all the way. Because he was clueless about liberation he preached that there was no such thing as liberation. Likewise because he could not understand the depth of the question Who Am I, he concluded that it was meaningless. He destroyed Parveen Babi and also managed to collect a few admirers who found his two bit explanations to be something profound.

[@vish6306]

Sour grapes all the way. He was clueless about liberation and so he said there was no such thing. Likewise he was unable to grasp the significance of Who Am I and so concluded it was meaningless. Highly frustrated and embittered guy. Sadly he destroyed Parveen Babi’s life with his rubbish.

[@uhtredsonofuhtred2867]

I don't think ug's intention is to refute Ramana's approach. The same way Ramana says that the end goal of this question is the dissolving of the thought called "I" itself, maybe UG too is refuting it straightaway in his own aggressive manner

[@sridharreddy8011]

UG called Ramana a joker

[@vish6306]

Seriously doubt it. UG was all sour grapes. When he did not understand something he concluded it was meaningless.

[@lovepeace7890]

I dont agree with UJK. "Who am I" is a logical enquiry process propounded by Ramana Maharishi to get to the understanding that if the mind, which is the instrument of knowledge, subsides, the perception of the world as an objective reality ceases. This state is called by vedanthis as Sat-Chit-Ananda. Jiddu Krishnamurthy calls this as the emptying the complete space-time from the psyche so that the OTHER is. This is not rocket science. UJK know all this. I heard this several times with UJK himself.

[@ajeethkumar3569]

🙌🙌

[@Ashish-nd3xj]

J was a fraud. Sachidanand state is a concept by some people

[@birdwatching_u_back]

But like, what he’s talking about is that there is no “state” at all that could be either achieved or lost. And the thing is, it only SOUNDS logical, but it’s deeply illogical at its core-and that’s all he’s pointing out. How could there be a real process to achieve non-process-ness? He’s just saying that the assertion that something needs to be either achieved or non-achieved has no basis at all, though it purports to.

[@astrobiojoe7283]

You just wrote all the things that you've read about the question instead, exactly as he said you would do. You basically showed him right. And I'm also taking part in the stupidity to explain this to you in terms of my understanding. Do you get it?

[@farrider3339]

"Idiotic question!" 😄👌 .•°

[@TheUnsayable]

Hahaha

[@slavomirakrasna2111]

Would explain the idiocy of the answer👌

[@farrider3339]

@@slavomirakrasna2111 : hey You again 😍 There are nO answers ☝️🤓 .•°

[@slavomirakrasna2111]

🙄there’s nothing BUT ANSWERS

[@farrider3339]

@@slavomirakrasna2111 : 🙄 definitely *nO* mam ! All that there is , is memory in operation + the natural intelligence of this boddy here - if there is such ting like "this boddy" 🤔 ° ° ° You tell me , what do YoU have to say ? .•°

[@A.Borate]

Who Am I? the question when put through dissolves the questioner, it was never meant to find any 'i' not even the other "I". UG just downplaying on Ramana's approach......and he does this more often.

[@vish6306]

Yes. But it was clearly beyond UG’s capacity to grasp this. Far too frustrated and embittered guy.

[@A.Borate]

Once the 'i'/'I' thought is 'seen' ...you can never put urself the question who am I again, rather u'll laugh at urself that u once did... Acc. to me he was done endorsing any methods once his seeking entirely exhausted.... My friend, there is in actuality nothing to grasp. :)

[@vish6306]

@@A.Borate There is still something that says ‘there is nothing to grasp’. It is no different than saying ‘there is another ‘I’. What is that? That is where UG lost it since his so called understanding was very superficial and only mental deductions which were not even fully logical.

[@A.Borate]

Forget abt UG and Ramana these folks are already dead. Would you agree if I told you that you as a individual can never know THAT, by any method..techniques or praising one and critising other. And if this relaxes you....than my pointer in the last comment did its job....and if didn't.. no harm done.

[@vish6306]

@@A.Borate My comment was matter of fact and not intended as praise or criticism. I don’t speculate about THAT at all. Logically it is not possible to investigate or enquire into these matters so long as one is bound to any method or system or technique. And inquiry must lead to the fundamental question Who am I or who is the questioner.

[@kairos106]

Ramana Maharshi fanboys are triggered in the comment section. :D

[@Ashish-nd3xj]

Lol lol lol

[@TheCherrytree123]

This is nihilism. The problem with nihilism is this philosophy not bring you happiness. It will resonate with the black hole in one's heart. and feel more and more emptiness. therefore, it do not have value to enrich your life in the world. instead, it trapped one into mind game. hence you need to apply nihilism to nihilism itself. If the concept of self is illusion, then person who speak it must be illusion. who contemplate the idea? Can illusion contemplate illusion? This 'guru' seems smart. But Buddha and Zen master is wise. For Buddhism 'no Self' means the self is not concrete thing. many valuable things are not concrete- value, life, love and kindness. Can you touch any of it? Can you touch mindfulness? you can't. but mindfulness changes your life in positive way! formless is untouchable. Can you say formless is non exist

[@bibingraj9743]

Your assumption is wrong. You named it nihilism, he told his interpretation. I don't agree his answer being an example of dictionary definition of nihilism. And this converse of him made YOU feel unhappy or didn't bring you happiness. I didn't feel so. I don't know about others. And UG doesn't deal with happiness, unhappiness or beauty, ugly etc. He specifies it in his most talks. He says it's all interpretations of society about this being beautiful or this bridging you happiness. In his 'natural state' it's more like just simple, plain without any attributes ( my interpretation). He doesn't care about happiness. And he in particular has said the seek for permanent happiness ie enlightenment (general consensus) is the moving you farther from the natural state.

[@farrider3339]

@Revision TV : actually that's perfect. There is nothing there to understand or to get - he he .•°

[@Naypa11]

What he "teaches" is identical with buddhism, (linji yixuan) zen, advaita vedanta and ashtavakra gita. He goes against them all because in the natural state there is no buddhism, zen, advaita or ashtavakra, there is not even UG. Zen utters the same exact thing, if you see the buddha kill him, enlightenment is a pile of shit, there are no teachers of zen, etc.

[@ajeethkumar3569]

Wowwww

[@Ashish-nd3xj]

Nihilism does not bring unhappiness, it clarifies things

[@Ranjith_Das]

Whenever I watch him, I always feel that he is someone who feels miserable for having been born into this world! Imagine, if every human being were to think and behave like him, imagine the plight of the world - everything would be dark, bad, ugly , meaningless and the world would have be a living hell because everyone is thinking and acting like UG!

[@fontofgod]

unfortunately that's how you have understood the best positive way of living!

[@aditya21221]

Yes you are right❤️

[@carlavela7106]

💐🙏

[@sanathansatya1667]

All philosophers are quacks as long as they believe that they know something that can be put forward authoritatively. The realm of spirituality is nor for those who believe or those hypothesise. The question who am I if asked by the unicellular life it gets an answer that it came from lifeless inert matter and is going to become an amazingly complex Human being. The I here is what it was what it is and what it would become. Every stage appears a transitory phase. It appears The I appears to be there eternally either in conscious form or unconscious form. It is the most fundamental question that naturally haunts a semi enlightened being. One can not convince oneself that he or she is the instinctively driven petty creature spending life stretched between birth and death.

[@slavomirakrasna2111]

And that lifeless inert matter wasn’t “alive or amazingly complex” at the first place, right?🙄 As for a human, who finds it difficult to be convinced, that they are here one day and gone the next day, it’s your theory. Humans just saw that everything around is not permanent, born one second, dead the next one, and so their fear of death came up with the holly stories of something permanent. The longest “alive” thing ever, they consider to be the universe itself, hence they reasoned that the idea of universe= a world mind=consciousness= a desire for universe, just like their desire for eternal life must be the indestructible alfa omega itself, therefore themselves. Happy, feeling safe, they died in that short lived thought...

[@sanathansatya1667]

@@slavomirakrasna2111 There is no life and death as such. It is only a state of awareness and unawareness. Each one involves the other.

[@slavomirakrasna2111]

I was writing neither about life, nor death. I was writing about shortsighted theories of fools, like you or Rupert Spira. You claim to KNOW that life and death don’t exist. Despite the fact that you ARE AWARE OF BOTH. And yet you still believe there is still something as a state of awareness and a state of unawareness🙄 One simple example of something that you are not aware of, would be what exactly?🫀

[@farrider3339]

@@slavomirakrasna2111 : 🙄 there is nO 🚫awareness❌. What The You is referring to is the function of memorY only ☝️°•.

[@sanathansatya1667]

@@slavomirakrasna2111 You are engrossed with foolish jargon and quick in degrading others because you can understand nothing but trying to be among rational thinkers. Arrogance blunted your mind to make it believe intellectual. Without trying for a friendly discussion you turned abusive. You are a gone case. We never claimed we know something. But facing people like you one definitely feels happy to be normal at least .

[@maverick5014]

His enlightenment experience actually got fu**** up. That's it 😉

[@Ashish-nd3xj]

Haha there is no enlightenment

[@DesiGeoEditz]

First .. does an I exist ... Yes.... that's the reason I am talking to you ... The second part ... what are all the parts of I ... the physical body ... with its central operating device .. the brain .... which responds to situations in a way to sustain it self for a continuous period till the physical body including itself degenerates itself to clinical death .. Third ... the question whether I has existed before the formation of human body and functioning of the brain ... like in the mother's womb ... nobody knows the answer including U G .... but saying I don't know requires guts ... Saying the question as irrelevant is absurd

[@slavomirakrasna2111]

Reading your comment reminds one of Asimov and his robot the philosopher. What the heck happens to the brain while I’m awake or dreaming🙄

[@chandrashekharchandu9284]

All this guy can do is hate JK more. He can't answer any question that's y he is twisting the question itself.

[@anshuuu9708]

Chandra Shekhar Chandu maybe you are right but , we have no right of making opinion on him ,go deep down in yourself

[@Danny-wb2zr]

Sucker if JK answered your questions you wouldn't be here listening to what he has say.

[@chandrashekharchandu9284]

@@Danny-wb2zr OK so how you got to know about jk sucker.. If this guy has all answers to your questions.

[@Danny-wb2zr]

@@chandrashekharchandu9284 Did I say he answered any of those idotic questions???Btw it was u who made it seem like JK had all the answers.

[@Ashish-nd3xj]

Hahaha JK was s fraud, this guy is not. Big difference