Ugandan Immigration makes you REGRET calling yourself a Munyarwanda w/Brian Kabayiza I THE LONG FORM

[@arinaitwerugyendo3630]

Counsel Kabayiza. I have liked your analysis, the sort that I have shared in many spaces to explain this problem.

[@benjaminnkurunziza1153]

This Ugandan banyarwanda issue is typically the same as the Congolese banyarwanda problem. However, the situation in congo is getting worse and worse. In my point of view, the issue is about the leadership. Politicians are always hiding behind these issues.

[@Chris-Nani]

Banyarwanda in any country tend to be organized in structured communities with a top-down leadership. This causes fear among the regime and its supporters. For instance, the Kivu province was split in two to ensure that banyamulenge and banyejomba didn't create one big community. we wish them luck still!

[@Kampala-v9s]

This man is deeply informed about the abanyarwanda issues than gashumba sorry to say

[@RetiredOne313]

Gashumba is just a muganda mufere from Masaka Villa Maria

[@ingabireflavia9329]

Of course kabayiza is older than gashumba and he grew typically in banyarwanda community which is different from gashumba's who was born in villa Maria katigondo village all their neighbors, school mates were baganda actually gashumba does know how to speak kinyarwanda he is just learning it so kabayiza comes from bulemenzi myself it's where I was born our parents kept on speaking kinyarwanda cause they were cattle keepers well as people in masaka like gashumba's family and other banyarwanda in masaka they were farmers

[@gatambarajames1693]

It could be better if the Ugandan government solved this problem yesterday. But if not like that, the victims of the situation won't hide their anger. It is manifested in all the revolutions we have got in not only the region but also the world that the causes of most revolutions is having earless regimes. It's ridiculous that even those who rose because the same situation was intolerant to them, are the ones turning deaf ear to innocent communities in this era. Thank you Sanny and Kabayiza. May God 🙏 bless you abundantly.

[@MicomyizaLily]

Thank you sir and the interviewer

[@karangwa2315]

I have subscribed because I like what you do man

[@christopherkyanga5922]

very interesting podcast.

[@peterrukwaya1768]

Thanks mr kabayiza , that is a truth of what you saying the problem, some people are preoccupied tribalism .

[@pearlaliza5342]

Lawyer Kabayiza brings more depth to understanding how the prejudice started and got entrenched. That said the problem Banyarwanda continue to face has to do with poor leadership.

[@hogwal]

Good to see Brian Kabayiza again after almost a decade. He was my neighbor in Kiwatule. However, he said so many things that are untrue and made so many false allegation. You can almost debunk everything he said.

[@taremwageorge8167]

We should be treated equally

[@OywelloZabulon]

I do respect and think highly of the Banyaranda" things. I think there are fears that given the opportunities to Banyaranda or 'Balalos" may lead them to take power in Uganda. I personal think come 2026 let us have Banyarawada fully incoporated as the tribes in Uganda.

[@Nene..93]

Check our constitution they're already there

[@tumwesigyesimon6088]

But these two men Gashumba and Kabayiza have National IDs and passports and many others which is very okay but the immigration you blame has explained in detail why some are not granted IDs as most enter Uganda and claim Ugandan nationality basing on the fact that Banyarwanda are in the constitution as atribe in Uganda so there's no problem if they request more verification.

[@Dwyer256]

Sanny, I personally think this prejudice has become worse in the last 10 years with the sitting NRA government suspicious of all Banyrwanda for being spies for the RPF government to enable it topple the NRA government if the all cases before the border closure of recent years are put into consideration. NRA top leadership especially the old guard seem to have not moved on from the 1997 clashes in DRC where it seems NRA lost that battle. M7 knows how the Rwandan refugees worked especially in intelligence during the 1980's Luwero war and the first few years of NRA Government. Another point, it being a sort of disorganised system which is preoccupied with regime survival and longevity, the Rwandan community in Uganda is viewed by the state in Uganda as an underground enemy to keep close but far by making it difficult for them to access legal documents in Uganda to easily control them.

[@AJulius7465]

Most analysts have failed to answer such question..why most banyarwanda are from masaka...here is the deep analysis..most batutsi fled from rwanda kingdom during early days of colonialists..they could not resentle very well in Western Uganda kingdoms since they had almost same norm with,so they ended up in buganda as workers in their livestock...but not all of them some settled in ankole and other parts and inyermarry with those host communities.....to add on that point..remember those days tribal/kingdom/chiefdom wars were rampant so those pipo felt more comfortable in buganda region otherthan other regions of Uganda.why because baganda didnt mind about their way of life...those guys stole bagandaz cows and baganda cud not care since they it wasnt their of life..and most banyarwanda of masaka intermarried with baganda leading to change way of life from being normadic pastorists to abahingyi/abalimi bemwanyi😂😂😂so masaka banyarwanda are totally diff from other banyarwanda in other parts of uganda esp..kyenkwanzi,isingiro kiruhura ,bunyoro,masindi and ntungamo....note there are those banyarwanda who just came of present like from 70s up-to-date..those are out of the issue..those should go through process of citizenship and resettlement.

[@Chris-Nani]

and you called this rubbish a "deep analysis?"

[@Nene..93]

​@@Chris-Nani His point is that they're not natives in Buganda

[@KimezeTeketwe]

Everyone knows that the "Homeland" of Banyarwanda is Rwanda. Where is their ancestral land in Uganda? They are a diasporic community in Uganda that cannot be considered natives or indigenous.

[@HerbertMuhir]

To be precise to making sense of this, bafumbira are aswell banyarwanda, are u trying to say that banfumbira, truthfully are from kisoro as there ancestral land or Rwanda, these were all created in ways if looking for survival, 70% of western territories belonged to Rwanda, that's ntungamo, kigezi region etc, so that wud be the ancestral for all Rwandese claiming citzenship

[@KimezeTeketwe]

@@HerbertMuhir Uganda's constitution recognizes Bafumbira as a distinct ethnic group. Most of us would not care if all these Banyarwandas in Uganda claimed to be Bafumbiras, but that is not what they are doing. Instead, they claim to be an ethnicity which goes by the name of country. I will end where I began - Banyarwandas in Uganda are not natives or Indigenous to Uganda; they are a DIASPORA. Listen to as many of them as you like, and you will come to my conclusion.

[@Nene..93]

@@HerbertMuhir You mean mpororo kingdom or Rwanda?

[@HerbertMuhir]

@@Nene..93 mpororo kingdom was all part of Rwanda, that why the constitution recognises those from that kingdom before the land decamation by the colonialist before 1926

[@Nene..93]

@HerbertMuhir kingdom of mpororo was an independent kingdom on its own. Why are you rewriting history with lies?

[@BandihaiThomas]

The idea that the general is coming to correct the wrongs done in the last 40 years by people he is closely related to is very naive and laughable...

[@KimezeTeketwe]

FACT CHECK: There are no Banyarwandas (or Rwandans in Uganda) in Uganda's Population Census Returns of 1911.

[@richardredmond1480]

Prove it you foolish idiot

[@reddish8692]

So who were the people counted in Kisoro?

[@KimezeTeketwe]

@@reddish8692 they were not counted because they were not yet part of Uganda. look into the Mufumbiro Question. And when they were counted in the 1921 Census, they were counted as Bafumbira, not Banyarwanda. There are Banyarwandas (in Uganda) in the 1921 Census, but not the 1911 one. But these were migrants, not NATIVES.

[@reddish8692]

@KimezeTeketwe you are just ignorant of the history of that region. Kigezi was annexed from Rwanda in 1910. The term "Mufumbira" didn't exist back then and the people there were subjects of the King of Rwanda. An imaginary line created by a white man does not change who someone is. All these tribal names that have been created over the last 80 or so years are just to distinguish the people who were on one side of the imaginary line from their brethren on the other side. So a census done in 1911 should have counted Banyarwanda because they were not only found in Kisoro but in Ntungamo and Buganda too.

[@KimezeTeketwe]

@@reddish8692 i think it is you who is ignorant. i am right now looking at the Uganda Census Returns of 1911 and there are NO Banyarwandas, Bafumbiras, and Bakigas. You can find the document if you have the same level of access as I do and see for yourself. Alternatively, you admit that you are IGNORANT and politely ask that i send you a pdf copy in which case you will also have to drop your email here. THERE WERE NO BANYARWANDAS in BUGANDA in 1911 or before, other than random STRANGERS. You cannot point to a single document that makes such a claim. The rest of what you say is really anthropology and I am not getting into that. I know that Bafumbiras, Banyamasisis, Banyamulenges, Banyarushurus, etc. were originally Banyarwandas. I will disagree with you as to how they FOUND new identities (particularly new names) and whether or not they can be considered different ethnicities.

[@allankitonsa6631]

I want warn you , Uganda is not eastern Congo!

[@lutaayam]

Isn’t that just corruption in internal affairs? Aren’t those officer just looking for you to bribe them? I know some years ago even other Ugandan tribes would struggle to get a passport without paying kitu kidoogo

[@Nene..93]

Very few banyarwanda are native to uganda like those in kigezi. The majority are not natives but immigrants and refugees. Even Gashumba accepts that his grandparents were immigrants from Rwanda. The constitution is clear if your parents have no proof of citizenship even if they were born in uganda, their children can't be citizens.

[@herbertkayondo8271]

Our constitution causes a bigger problem in this regard. We need to review such aspects therein....to start with citizenary by birth should be the number one qualification of ones status. That should be aligned through the supreme law.

[@Nene..93]

@herbertkayondo8271 citizenship by birth as long as one of your parents is a Ugandan citizen according to the constitution. We can not make it open like it is in the US. That country can afford to accommodate almost everyone because it has the resources and lots of land.

[@herbertkayondo8271]

@Nene..93 The resources, including land....; that we have and in plenty. It's an matter of optimisation and prioritising properly. This country still needs more people....the more the better. We are not about or at risk of hitting any sort of population explosion. In addition, this is the only county where we have wastage in everything, food, etc etc.

[@Nene..93]

​@herbertkayondo8271, which land are you talking about? People are always murdering themselves over land almost every week...man do you live in uganda?

[@Nene..93]

Wastage in food huh? What do you have to say about millions of households that go without food and have no access to clean water?

[@Benedir]

The tutsis that call themselves tutsis in their kitchens Once outside masquerade as banyankole(hima) Are going to be careful They think they aren't known? Their survival in uganda is dependent upon rwanda If they don't act and continue To allow mistreatment of banyarwanda (hutu and tutsi) They might be waiting for trouble They may never be spared The day bantu nilotes of uganda will rise

[@Chris-Nani]

You must be congolese or a bad rwandan to post such rubbish.

[@richardredmond1480]

Nilotes are weak and can’t manage creating any conflict