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Jasonoid - Solar Power, Batteries, and More!

Jasonoid - Solar Power, Batteries, and More!

Күн бұрын

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@happyowopotato8306
@happyowopotato8306 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jason, I have questions regarding with this power station. 1. Can I use this as an UPS? (Replace my APC UPS 1000va for my gaming PC?) 2. Can I control when should the battery charge? (To avoid the battery constant recharge when plugged to the wall outlet) 3. If used as a UPS does the power station bypass the battery and power the devices straight to the wall outlet? Your reviews are great btw, was eyeing for the eco flow river 2 pro but power roam 1200 has a UPS feature that just makes it more versatile! Thanks for the grading sheet it was a great guide!
@todd.parker
@todd.parker Жыл бұрын
It's great that you reviewed this and that it's a 10/10. Impressive for a first product. Man, these videos are so in-depth. You cover everything you'd ever need to know.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
Thanks :) It's a lot of work but I feel it allows my viewers to see the true performance.
@rccrashed
@rccrashed Жыл бұрын
Diesel heater comment here. A buddy of mine has a power station that couldn't run his diesel heater at start up, pulled too many amps and would shut down before it was running. We bought a double pole switch and hooked up a small 12 volt battery on one set of the leads. Its output (12 volt battery) would allow the diesel heater to power up, then when amps drop down while running, just flip the switch and it continues to run off the power station! You could use any small 12 volt battery, he used a 3 cell Lipo rc pack, he had laying around,. It worked great and he was able to use the big battery from the power station to continue running the diesel heater off of it.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
The only power stations that can handle DC heaters guaranteed are the larger output Bluetti units. The AC200p, AC200MAX, AC300 all have 25 to 30 amp regulated DC outputs so they are ideal for that type of thing. The Fossibot F2400 has a 20 amp output which would probably do well with a diesel heater too. Going the route of a 12v battery works well with them since they only pull high amps for a couple minutes.
@marklewus5468
@marklewus5468 Жыл бұрын
I have one additional suggestion. Generating a clean sine wave into a resistive load is easy, doing it with an inductive or capacitive load is not. It would be interesting to see tests of sine wave quality while driving a power tool under load (inductive) and then a non-PFC switching power supply (ie, older desktop computer) for a capacitive load. I know it’s a big ask, but it would be very useful.
@mclaine33
@mclaine33 Жыл бұрын
Wow that’s a very impressive power station for a new company. Seriously gives EcoFlow, Bluetti, and Jackery a run for the money. The price is good too. Minor cons, no folding handle, no expansion battery kinda sucks. I’m wondering if it can run a more modern full sized fridge. Overall very impressive for a start up company.
@Kobay350
@Kobay350 Жыл бұрын
Runs my full size fridge just fine (model number WRS322FDAM04 if interested). My fridge draws roughly 700 watts on startup, and runs using rougly 100 -150 watts once started. I ran it using the PowerRoam 1200 for a few hours to test it out. I was planning on running an extended test running my fridge and recharging with solar once I have some panels to use with it.
@emu256
@emu256 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing the test with the guitar amp. More and more people are using these batteries for powered speakers. I've seen djs and street performers use them.
@valerietourle7210
@valerietourle7210 Жыл бұрын
I read about this product and it seemed impressive... that's when i came to your channel to see if you'd reviewed it and you have! Happy days.. Your comprehensive review will really help inform me in potentially getting one of these. Thanks Jasonoid, it's like my son says... yours and Will's channels are tops
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@campbellsoup4910
@campbellsoup4910 Жыл бұрын
What up Doe!? WoW!! very very nice portable power station!! I really like the app, a lot of customization. Great job Dr J'👍🏼
@SandiRose2008
@SandiRose2008 Жыл бұрын
Awesome little power station! And of course, you always give us All the information!! Too bad about the solar panels, but you showed us a work-around. Great video, Jason! I could tell you're excited about this one!! 10 out of 10!! Thank you. Putting this power station on my list of probabilities!!
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
It's not completely perfect on everything but it did hit the marks to get the 10 points. Thanks for checking out the video 😊👍
@rod2625
@rod2625 Жыл бұрын
For home power loss I have purchased the Pecron e600 LFP (614wh), ($349)an EcoFlo River 2 (256wh) ($199) and a SetPower PT55 (58qt) ($303) fridge/freezer. Living in the PNW solar backup power is not reliable especially in the winter months so I purchased a Champion 2500w (1665 running wattage on propane, 1850 gasoline) dual fuel inverter (portable 40lb) generator ($399) ( with the intention of powering it by propane). Total investment $1250. With the quick AC charging times of my two power supplies one can power the fridge while I charge the other. I expect I could possibly charge both at the same time if necessary. A standard propane tank can last as long as 30 hours of runtime, plus it stores indefinitely. I am very happy with this setup!
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
Great setup! I'm sure that would be very useful during an outage :) Thanks for sharing!
@mvanalst2003
@mvanalst2003 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review, Jason! Thank you for creating and sharing, sir. 😊
@AGilbert_81
@AGilbert_81 Жыл бұрын
I like this unit and since my preference in pps is over 1000wh, I think this will be the next one. I was trying to decide between the Grow Watt but I see better potential here. Thanks for the review.
@johnperry5960
@johnperry5960 Жыл бұрын
Great review. And definitely a good little power station. If I needed another one, I would definitely buy it
@af1023
@af1023 Жыл бұрын
Very nice and well built device. I see that more of these devices like this one are using higher voltages for the solar input allowing faster charge times. Watching your show, I have learned a bit about using external batteries as expansion packs and utilizing the 12v-24v DC-DC boosters, except I use 2 in parallel to lower the operating temperature, I. believe you have a video about this. Thank you for your time and energy to produce these awesome videos
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
I have a couple videos about those DC to DC converters and speeding up the charging process :) :)
@Noelshepherd
@Noelshepherd Жыл бұрын
Another great review. Looks like a good product!
@Michelle-bw1xg
@Michelle-bw1xg Жыл бұрын
I treasure each one of your power station/fridge reviews. My use will be full time van life eventually with fridge, instant pot in mini van most likely. Good watts over 1000+, meets your criteria, quiet fan a must, good USB-C ports, 5 yr warranty, UPS a must. Would prefer flat handle for stacking and wireless charging but would rather buy 2 stand alone stations than an expansion battery (I think). The size/weight is a +. Would this blow a 12v DC car outlet? I think bigger stations can. This definitely is a consideration for my first unit! Thank you!!!!
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
When charging from a 12v socket this will not pull more than 10 amps so it won't blow a fuse.
@KeyBored101
@KeyBored101 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic info as usual, thanks Jason
@marklewus5468
@marklewus5468 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing these idle tests, I find them very useful. Many of my applications are low power where the inverter parasitic load becomes very relevant. 9w idle inverter power is quite good for an inverter of this size. I have an older 600 W inverter from an Anker NMC unit that draws more power than that at idle.
@JimMcPartland
@JimMcPartland Жыл бұрын
Great review Jason. Any idea if UGreen will be coming out with something in the 2000-2400 range??
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
They had a 2000wh version at CES that was still not finished. Maybe at the end of the year they will have a larger option!
@fatbo1602
@fatbo1602 Жыл бұрын
Great and comprehensive review! And this battery looks so awesome! By the way, I am curious about how much is the DC offset voltage of its AC output. I have a portable power station of which the DC offset voltage is around 2 V (measured by multimeter). It made the toroidal transformer overheat easily, which is quite annoying.
@Kantuski
@Kantuski Жыл бұрын
Nice! Perfect size and weight, notably no external wireless charging. 10 out of 10 is awesome as well. I can't wait for a review of the Renogy Phoenix 1000, similar specs, heavier, also no wireless charging, a little cheaper but it does have expandability via a connecting cable, larger inverter. Keep up the very detailed reviews, I appreciate them.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
I haven't heard of the Renogy Phoenix model yet.
@Kantuski
@Kantuski Жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid I thought I replied to this yesterday, but not here, so, I have 2 of the Renogy Phoenix 1000, with the connecting cable for a parallel/split phase connection. I haven't tried connecting yet. Units are about 42 lbs. each, 998 Wh LFP battery, 1500 Watt inverter up to 3000watts surge, 400 Watts solar input, under $750 currently. Please check it out as I don't have your expertise or equipment to do a good review. Keep up the great work!
@DavidLPitman
@DavidLPitman Жыл бұрын
Very comprehensive review, thanks! One thing that would be nice to know on these power station reviews is how the device handles being charged in a vehicle. Do the units stop drawing power from the vehicle when a certain voltage is reached in order to not over-draw the vehicle battery. For example, will it pull charge when the engine is on, but discontinue when the engine is off. Real world use stuff. Thanks again!
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion David. Most of these will charge all of the time while connected to a 12v socket so it would be wise to put an inline switch or use a 12v socket thats disabled when the key is removed.
@DavidLPitman
@DavidLPitman Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply, and you are correct. I picked up this power station and it has options for max amp for DC charging, but no option for discontinuing charge if the voltage gets to a set value. Kind of interesting that the DC compressor coolers have this logic built in, but not the more sophisticated power stations! Thanks Jason!
@rgraz4929
@rgraz4929 24 күн бұрын
I thought 149w for one 200w panel was fair, but two combined outputting 233w is pretty sad. Is there another way to connect these two panels for better combined output? I'm glad I found this video. I was about to buy 2 of these panels since I like how they fold (stands too) with magnets. Great review.
@JeffSkymaster
@JeffSkymaster Жыл бұрын
Impressive!
@sethtime9951
@sethtime9951 Жыл бұрын
Great solar power station. Ecoflow has a real competitor now. Yeah, the molded top handle sucks.
@AGilbert_81
@AGilbert_81 Жыл бұрын
Great review Jason. At this price point, it's a great deal. Too bad I just purchased a 15qt Setpower fridge (couldn't pass up the $139 for it). Guess I'll have to put in some ot hours.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
Great price on that fridge!
@lilbunnybrit
@lilbunnybrit Жыл бұрын
Your reviews are the definitive source of information on KZbin IMO. I’ve been watching all the reviews on this unit recently and I was hopeful that you would do one because no one goes into the performance measurements like you! The Delta River 2 which can be purchased on sale for the same price was a the top of my list but the fan noise under max charging and discharge was of concern. Did Ecoflow ever respond to your suggestion of a firmware update to potentially regulate the fan speed? Could UGREEN provide different charge rates through a firmware update? A couple of suggestions: add measurements of noise level to your comparisons. It would also be fantastic if you could do a standard dc refrigerator battery life test. If you just used the same unit under the same conditions it would provide a comparison between units. Now to decide which one to buy. Ecoflow or UGREEN. I am really torn! Thanks again for the BEST reviews.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
I have a DC fridge comparison spreadsheet on the third tab of my power station grading sheet. In that I list how many watt hours each model uses so you can compare them. You can take the DC capacity of the power station and divide that into how much power the fridge uses and you'll get the estimated runtime for each model. That might help you decide which one will run a fridge longer: jasonoid.com/powerstations/ Are you recommending adding the loudness of the fans to my comparisons?
@lilbunnybrit
@lilbunnybrit Жыл бұрын
Yes, if you are seeing a wide range of fan noise from different units I think a noise rating would be helpful. You had noted the fan noise on the EcoFlow and I’ve seen other reviews also commenting on it. This is one reason I am really leaning to the UGREEN and it would be great to have the db levels in your charts.
@kevinholland4156
@kevinholland4156 Жыл бұрын
You could add product support to your grading system. Some of the power stations you review look great, but how do they handle problems when they happen. Your review was good and the price is decent.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
It's hard to grade a power station for support qyaltiy since I'm only 1 person and it takes many samples to get a true feel for product support. I'll usually get a good idea of support by reading the comments on my reviews after a few months. Thanks for the feedback Kevin, that's something I'm still trying to figure out how best to do.
@AnotherAnonymousMan
@AnotherAnonymousMan Жыл бұрын
I never expected this to trade blows with the Bluetti AC180. Between the two, i might just go with whichever has lowest price available. 🤔
@mikesmith1550
@mikesmith1550 Жыл бұрын
Needs to be expandable. Can you add warranty info to the spread sheet? Wish I could print it. Great series!!
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
I'll add warranty on the grading sheet 2.0, I'm working on that right now.
@mikesmith1550
@mikesmith1550 Жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid Thank you! Will it be printable?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
@@mikesmith1550 not sure, maybe I'll make an exportable pdf or something.
@mikesmith1550
@mikesmith1550 Жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid I get confused looking across long spreadsheets. I'd like to be able to tape the pages together and use a str8 edge to give me an easier look.
@patrickcasavant-cssmv
@patrickcasavant-cssmv 7 ай бұрын
Hi! great review! Thanks! Can you tell me what kind of alert/notification it is possible to configure. Like getting notificated when power goes down when use as a UPS, when cetain % of load etc?
@keithcraig5197
@keithcraig5197 6 ай бұрын
First - Thanks for your Great Reviews! Since your test on the UGREEN 2200 transfer time for UPS mode was the best on the market- would you please test the actual switch over time for the UGREEN 1200 UPS mode now that you have an oscilliscope?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 6 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, I don't have this unit any longer. I have a small home with no storage space so I can't keep them all on hand forever. Usually the UPS mode is very similar for brands between models, I bet it performs very similarly to the Ugreen2200
@markmonroe7330
@markmonroe7330 Жыл бұрын
The lack of a folding handle is a really big deal for folks using this in the car/truck for camping and traveling. That one thing is an honest deal breaker for me. Love the 10amp/12v barrel connector. This is really nice for running 12v devices in the car/truck. Many others only have 3a or 5a on the barrel connectors. Otherwise, this unit has everything I need. I can use a stand-alone battery as an "expansion battery" via the XT60 connector. Would have been nice to see you test the full input capacity at 48v. You really need to get an adjustable power supply to see where the actual voltage and watts/amp cuttoff is for the inputs. Otherwise - love the review. Thank you sir.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
You can't really protect against 'over voltage' on these units so going above the rated 48 volts on the xt60 will most likely damage the power station.
@user--PM
@user--PM Жыл бұрын
expansion batteries are an interesting idea, but imo for adding additional run time, adding power through the DC charge port is a good enough option for most folks, just have to make sure that the charge ability meets your needs for your use case, and that you have enough alternate charge sources to meet the duration you want. this looks like it has all the options, but the price/wh is a little less attractive considering the options now available. but a good welcoming point to the market, anyone that purchases one would probably be very satisfied. keep in mind because of the ups feature, you can add a load to it while charging and it will slow the charge rate as well, my p2001 will only draw max from the wall 1200 watts, if i place a load while charging, example my computer setup, it will slow the charge rate at how much my setup uses (about half) well shucks the ffpower p2001 was $999 but out of stock as of may 1st, but was a really good price for essentially a 1500 wh battery and a 2000 watt inverter. it's sibling the oukitel p2001 is sitting at $1199 with a $100 coupon, currently. sorry if i compare everything you review to the unit i purchased and am still quite satisfied with. if it's an issue i will cease to do so.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
Great to hear your feedback PM, thanks for sharing these thoughts!
@Fine_art_aerial
@Fine_art_aerial Жыл бұрын
Can you daisy chain additional batteries to this?? Great video!!
@TheStopwatchGod
@TheStopwatchGod Жыл бұрын
You can't, unlike the Delta 2
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
It doesn't support official expansion batteries but you can connect your own batteries to the solar charging port and keep it running longer.
@zodaguado6655
@zodaguado6655 Жыл бұрын
26lbs is perfect, especially for wife or young children, Jason would be awesome if you can recommend best energy efficient home refrigerators, many have 400 w defrosters some 280w… like what home refrigerators would be best for home shtf situations
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
I am not super knowledge able with home appliances. I mostly stick to testing the 12v DC fridges. Both of my full size fridges at home run defrost cycles but they aren't very long. Only a couple minutes per day it seems.
@radiotopics1874
@radiotopics1874 Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for the thorough review, especially the inverter noise measurement. But did I miss something? It doesn't seem to be available either on Amazon or their website.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
I see it available on Amazon HERE, really good price too: amzn.to/3NO3VxV I also see it available on their website HERE: www.ugreen.com/products/ugreen-powerroam1200-power-station?variant=40074737156158
@radiotopics1874
@radiotopics1874 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. FYI ...Amazon says it's unavailable and they're not sure when it will be. That link to UGreen site took me to the home page, but was able to find it using search
@mattbunce2509
@mattbunce2509 5 ай бұрын
I have just bought the PowerRoam 1200, but I overlooked one issue related to AC charnging speed, and I am struggling to find a solution. Does anyone know a way to lowqer the AC charging speed down to around 200watts max (much lower than quiet mode normally lowers it to). I mainly want to use these as long-run UPS devices to allow me to run all of the systems in my scuba diving center when the grid goes out here in Mexico - Particularly if this happens overnight too keep the CCTV running and allow me to open the electric-only roller shutters in the morning. THE PROBLEM that I have found is that normally after a while of no-power, we will typically start our Honda 2200i inverter generator, which works great to power the essential systems and some extras like lights and fans... However, when we start to power the shop from the generator, the high AC charge rate of the UGreen (>600 watts even when quiet mode is enabled) means that my generator stuggles to power everything. So with this in mind, does anyone know if/how it is posisble to manually drop the AC charging rate down to something much more modest like 100-200 watts?)
@VamIy
@VamIy 3 ай бұрын
Hi does it have bypass mode when you plug the station into an outlet and your devices get power directly without using the battery? Many stations still use the battery even in this mode, so the battery gradually loses its capacity. And does it know how to turn off the fans if you connect just one computer
@mattbunce2509
@mattbunce2509 3 ай бұрын
@@VamIy my line voltage is 127v and I see this on the output, which would suggest it is bypassing. Despite this I do sometimes see the fan in use. But is it not loud at all
@VamIy
@VamIy 3 ай бұрын
@@mattbunce2509 Sometimes? So the fans are still off most of the time at low load or what did you mean? I'll be using it with my mini PC with monitor it's about 60W or so which is pretty low and I'd like a silent station considering the low power consumption. Have you encountered any problems in UPS mode? I've seen some complaints about this model that every couple days the station shuts down even if it's plugged in with a laptop or PC that's just asleep and only draws
@mattbunce2509
@mattbunce2509 3 ай бұрын
@@VamIy when running on mains power with low load I sometimes see the fan indicator illuminated. But generally it doesn't seem to be on for a lot of time.
@Breaks4Breaks
@Breaks4Breaks Жыл бұрын
It would be nice if the handle was foldable, to stack and take less space.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
Yeah, one of the cons in my book for sure but vs the performance it's a small complaint. I was surprised by this unit!
@douglasmontgomery6315
@douglasmontgomery6315 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for review. No bi-directional USB-C & A/C + D/C are a deal killer...for me. I would think the latest and greatest..newest power stations would incorperate all the features that reviewers like you and others have pointed out as beneficial. Lastly, not only are the panels not as good as their stated rating, but the battery rating in this is actually LESS than advertised.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
Just curious what you mean by A/C + D/C? Can you clarify that? The best capacity score I have ever seen on any power station I have tested was 92%. They all have less than advertised capacity and I have never seen a 100% on that test. This one did hit my minimum goal of 85%.
@jw3843
@jw3843 Жыл бұрын
Good unit, I would like to see a little higher solar input voltage, a folding handle would make it better but not a huge deal unless you just can't fit it in due to the handle. I might get a second pecron just because of its solar input. So far, my pecron 2000 has had zero issues keeping a chest freezer running off of solar. I had to charge it once off grid power due to weather in the last 3 months. If pecrons batteries ever go on good sale, I will be buying one of them so it can go around 4 days without solar.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
Pecron makes excellent budget devices that get better with time since they keep putting out new versions. Check out RamblinBobs videos the best Pecron content.... I'm pretty sure I've seen you over there already haha
@1ENDUSER
@1ENDUSER Жыл бұрын
Of course they did it the right way. They had blue prints/ cheat sheet from all the big names that already been making solar generators. Ecoflow, Bluetti, OG Goal Zero, Jackery etc. If your going to give this generator a 10/10 then all those others should have 10/10 as well.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
Uhhhh.... Those other power stations have flaws like slow UPS modes, noise on the inverter and other features missing. All power stations are held to the same standard when grading them so you can see which one has the best performance. Of course this one isn't perfect but neither are the other ones.
@jaimeskiebel
@jaimeskiebel Жыл бұрын
Hi, Jason. A question: Do you know what it is that actually triggers the XT60 charge input to charge at 15 amps as opposed to the default 8 amps? When I plug in a 12V 100ah battery, it's obviously charging at 8 amps, as if it recognized the 12V as coming from a car charger. I thought that if I boosted this to 24V, I would see it charge at 15a. This did not happen. I verified the correct voltage, but only saw 8a. I don't see anything special about the supplied XT60 solar panel cable that looks like a trigger pin (XT60i). I'm just curious how it detects the environment to use 15 amps over 8 amps. I thought you might know. Thanks for another great, in-depth video!
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
Usually the swap over to higher amperage is around 31v to 32v. They have it set that way so it doesn't blow a fuse with a 24v setup. You might need to purchase a 12v to 36v adapter to get the higher charging amperage. I don't have the unit with me to test anymore so I can't verify exactly, I'm sorry.
@jaimeskiebel
@jaimeskiebel Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. I appreciate it! I'll give that a try in the next week and let you know my findings.
@OnusBones
@OnusBones Жыл бұрын
This one jumps to the front of my short list. Too bad the Licitti box took me off the market for a power station this size; it does indeed check all the boxes, with the possible exception of not being able to run a refrigerator. I have a Renogy 1000W inverter that will run our new LG fridge (a very basic model), so that's a disappointment.
@GiesbertNijhuis
@GiesbertNijhuis Жыл бұрын
Another good one, nice. Yea: unlimited expansion batteries is a wish.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
I recently purchased a 48v server rack battery to test as a DIY expansion battery. It's definitely for a "home backup" since it isn't portable at all! It's been really cool so far though.
@pavelmakarov2191
@pavelmakarov2191 17 күн бұрын
won't it handle a refrigerator? I have a 360 l refrigerator with a nominal power of 130 W.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 16 күн бұрын
The surge startup of a fridge compressor can be very high. The only way to tell is to test it on your fridge.
@ronbotex
@ronbotex Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review! I bought this unit but think I found a glitch in the android smart app. Have you noticed that the U-Turbo mode always resets to ON when the unit is powered off and on. Other settings, operating mode, quiet mode, and temperature units, remain permanent once set in the app. This is bad, because if you use it to power a full sized fridge, you might do some damage with U-Turbo set to on. If you don't have your phone handy in an emergency, there is no way to temporarily turn U-Turbo mode off. Other than that, seems to work as expected.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
I never noticed that bug when I was using the unit. I'm guessing a future firmware update can resolve that. Thanks for the heads up!
@VamIy
@VamIy 3 ай бұрын
Hi does it have bypass mode when you plug the station into an outlet and your devices get power directly without using the battery? Many stations still use the battery even in this mode, so the battery gradually loses its capacity. And does it know how to turn off the fans if you connect just one computer
@rademaxbh
@rademaxbh Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review! Are there any differences between 1200w and 600w stations besides their capacity?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
The inverter and capacity are the biggest changes. Im not sure since I haven't taken a real close look at the 600w model.
@rademaxbh
@rademaxbh Жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid Looking at the comparison table of these stations on the official website, the following differences can be distinguished: Model 1200w vs 600w Price $999 $499 Capacity 1024Wh 680Wh UPS 20ms 10ms Recharging AC 1200W AC 600W (both 80%/1h) Solar charging 400W Max 200W Max (both in 4h) The difference in capacity: around 350Wh The difference in price: $500 UPS is even better in the 600w model Price per WH: $0.73 Hope wave inverter also isn't noisy as in the 1200W model Maybe it could be a new leader in your grading sheet :)
@EfficientRVer
@EfficientRVer Жыл бұрын
So close yet so far. A few changes, and they have a real winner. Without changes, it's fine for most people, but I get really picky about having my own needs/preferences met when paying power-station prices per Wh. For my purposes, it's a fail. I won't buy any device without good USB-C PD input, if any similar device is available with it. The AC charging at max rate only, is also unacceptable. The handle is bad but not a showstopper for me, I'm used to it with my GoLabs R300. The high, fixed AC charging input is pretty much a showstopper for me. It means I can't charge both my Prius Prime PHEV and the power station from a single 120V 15A circuit, or really even a 20A circuit if I want to follow National Electrical Code. When doing Level 1 120V charging, the car normally draws 12A but can be set down to 8A. Wanting to keep the total continuous load to 12A on a true 15A 14ga circuit with 15A breaker, that leaves me only 4A for the power station charging and anything else I'm doing. NEC requires continuous (hours unsupervised) loads like a car charger to only use 80% of the ampacity of a circuit. Even with the car set down to 8A, that plus 10A for charging the power station, is 18A, so doesn't even meet code if I turn the car charging down to its minimum 8A. So, technically, I'd need two circuits. So, my personal preference is to at least have an option to charge as slowly as 2A, 3A, or at most 4A. In addition to my own car+station reason for wanting a charging option 4A or under, I'd really, really like to see a charging option of 0.2C or slower, in this case 200W. Having 1.2C as the only AC charging option is actually a showstopper for me. I'm simply not spending $800-$1000 and then reducing its cycle life unnecessarily every time I charge it. Yes, I could plug a 12V-48V power supply into AC, and pick a charge rate, but that entirely defeats the idea of its internal charger only needing a power cord. Might as well just use my own bare LFP battery for much less money if cobbling together charging solutions. I think if someone gave me one free, I'd be happy to cobble a "multiple PD to solar port" charging adapter, and an "AC to solar port" charging adapter to let me charge it as I wish. But buying it and needing to do that, isn't going to happen. Easy fixes for them to do in a next version. Flat top. 100W PD input on one or preferably both ports. AC charging down to 200W, and preferably 100W. 100W sounds crazy slow at 0.1C, but is super useful. It would allow charging even off a small inverter in a 12V outlet.. I'm not into carrying a bunch of 12V charging cords. When I travel, my little 300W Bestek pure sine inverter is ALWAYS in my main center console 12V outlet being used as if it's a 120W inverter. In someone else's car or a rental car, it may be the only charging option, pretty common situation.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
I'm glad there are so many options available on the market so that everyone can chose their preference. So far I don't think there is any option that meets your criteria, but I'll keep looking! 😁👍
@twloughlin
@twloughlin Жыл бұрын
Wow - I don't think I've ever seen a PPS rejected for such a single isolated use case. Personally, I find the issue of battery life cycles to be a red herring. I don't know that I've ever heard of someone cycling a PPS every single day to reach the life cycle limit of either an NMC or LFP. Some other component will probably fail before that happens. And no doubt the technology will improve such to the point that you'll probably be upgrading before the batteries wear out. And even if you do reach your life cycle limit, you still have 80% of rated power - it's not dead. So the fast charging rate for me is not a critical consideration. Not disputing your objections - just my two cents.
@Darock80
@Darock80 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all of your videos, but when will you do the growatt infinity 1300, it seems to be a great rival to the Ecoflow Delta II?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
I've thought about it since they swapped to LFP
@markhunt6573
@markhunt6573 Жыл бұрын
I am interested in the growatt 1300 too
@af1023
@af1023 Жыл бұрын
Sorry to bring this up on this video, have you tried the Renogy Bifacial 220w panels? I recently bought 2 and they are awesome! I usually set them up in series to power up my Delta 2 + battery and I am not disappointed Renogy just came up with the 115w bifacial panel and I decided to get a pair and looking forward to playing with them The tide is quickly improving on the panel technology with more reasonable options
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
Sounds like some cool solar panels! I haven't tested them before.
@twloughlin
@twloughlin Жыл бұрын
I would vote "no" on expansion batteries. You've not yet reviewed the Bluetti AC60 with expansion batteries that everyone seems to be "ooohhhaahhh" and slobbering over, but based on what I've seen, this unit has it all over the AC60. Why would you want expansion batteries on a unit with only a 600 watt inverter? For general use camping and power stations, this unit is great! Fast charging (the sun is your "expansion battery"), 1200 watt clean inverter, plenty of capacity, and $0.79 per watt hour. Plus a Jasonoid 10/10 score. In my view, expansion batteries belong in backup power units designed to stay in one place, not on camping trips.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
I passed on the Bluetti AC60 because it's basically the EB3A but it takes expansion batteries. I didn't see a huge selling point for it personally, but some people out there might love it.
@txsears
@txsears Жыл бұрын
Great review. I just received my UGreen 1200 PS this afternoon. Can’t wait to try it out when we go to Yellowstone. I will mostly be using it for my Cpap. Thank you for the review on their solar panels. I still need to buy some solar panels and not sure what kind to purchase. Definitely will not be purchasing UGreens after your thorough review. This is my 1st PS and I am a newbie to this world. Any recommendations on a great 200 or 400 w portable solar panel? I need to do some more research. 😊
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
You'll want to make sure the VOC for each panel doesn't go over 24volts. If you want to learn more about how that works, check out this beginners video on solar panels: kzbin.info/www/bejne/anuqaX-sf9-hgrs Once you watch that first video, this video shows off a bunch of the 200w panels I have tested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJfPnZJ3rNOJkMU
@txsears
@txsears Жыл бұрын
@@JasonoidThank you! Just back from our trip camping in Yellowstone and the UGreen worked great. I recharged by way of electricity but now I need to find a good portable solar panel. I will definitely be watching these additional recommended videos. Thank you!
@txsears
@txsears Жыл бұрын
@@JasonoidThank you for the additional information on your videos. You have taught me so much about solar panels. I was hoping to purchase a Bluetti PV200 portable solar panel but the VOC as your review on it mentions is at 26 where my UGreen max is at 24. I will keep looking. Ugh! I had an opportunity to get a good deal on the Bluetti PV200.
@patrickio8084
@patrickio8084 8 ай бұрын
Why did you downgrade this product's rating from 10 to 8.5 on your spreadsheet?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 8 ай бұрын
Grading sheet was updated from 1.0 to 2.0 to much more strict standards. All power stations received a cut basically to meet new expectations of future products.
@ld5714
@ld5714 Жыл бұрын
Does using as a UPS shorten the life of the battery?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
No, the power station is passing power straight through so the battery just sits at 100% SOC until it's needed.
@LuhBeanBun
@LuhBeanBun 10 ай бұрын
Do you know if it can run a portable induction cooktop?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 10 ай бұрын
Yes, as long as the induction cooker doesn't go over the maximum wattage the inverter allows. I'd recommend using an induction cook top that's adjustable.
@jimdaly5077
@jimdaly5077 Жыл бұрын
Hi this looks like a good product, but feels like it is hijacking the space that was gained in your smaller battery review last Video,for me the Handel is a spoiler in its design. Thanks again keep up the good reviews (did you mention you may do a video about mix & match solar panels or am I making that one up in my head 🙃)all the best Jim. 👍🐝🌞
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
I need to purchase a couple more glass panels to experiment with that, I only have 3 types of glass panels right now so the testing would be limited.
@jimdaly5077
@jimdaly5077 Жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid Hi thanks for the quick reply, hope you don’t think I was being critical, keep doing a great job and helping us out. 👍🐝🌞
@richardsieben815
@richardsieben815 Жыл бұрын
How is Ugreen's support compared to EcoFlow & Anker?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
I havent heard too much about them yet from my viewers. They do have both phone support and email support. You can test them out before your purchase. Just call or email and see what they do.
@samog777
@samog777 Жыл бұрын
Can a firm ware update solve ability to charge slower??
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
If they add more charging speeds in the future, yes.
@samog777
@samog777 Жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid whats the charge speed on this for DC? Im a truck driver so i can recharge DC ALL DAY😉
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
@@samog777 100w at 12v, 200w at 24v.
@headoverfeat
@headoverfeat 9 ай бұрын
hey Jason! hey all! i'm new to this so i didn't get some of it..i'm just looking for a power station to run an 8kg washing machine and a dryer...can this one do that? it looks like it can but like i said..i m a bit confused
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 9 ай бұрын
Do you know how many watts the washer pulls?
@headoverfeat
@headoverfeat 9 ай бұрын
@@Jasonoid hi ! thx for replying! i recently bought a watt meter thingy and it showed a max of 2000-2100w ..do you think the x-turbo feature can support that ? the cycle is 52 minutes
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 9 ай бұрын
This power station has 1024 watt hours of capacity. You'll need to watch this video so you can learn to estimate runtimes for your loads: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pp-lnn2Gq8mWeLs
@headoverfeat
@headoverfeat 8 ай бұрын
@@Jasonoid thx..it's just as i thought..i might need to get the bigger type of power stations for what i need
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 8 ай бұрын
@@headoverfeat this one is too small for your load.
@Erm_ki
@Erm_ki 5 ай бұрын
Does UPS work for usb connectors?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 5 ай бұрын
The USB ports power continually. They don't need UPS support.
@Erm_ki
@Erm_ki 5 ай бұрын
@@Jasonoid That is, when I use the USB, the battery is discharged when the 220 socket is plugged in?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid 5 ай бұрын
@@Erm_ki the power station will stay fully charged when it's connected to the wall, even if usb is being used.
@JohnWick-xz9tc
@JohnWick-xz9tc Жыл бұрын
does it do pass through solar charging.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
You can charge it via solar at the same time as powering your devices on the DC output, USB ports, and AC inverter.
@gsp49
@gsp49 Жыл бұрын
Will it power a microwave?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
Maybe a micro microwave, it won't power my full size ones.
@bertjedekat
@bertjedekat Жыл бұрын
I think the bluetti ac180 (europe) will destroy this for a little more money and more watts
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
I have the AC180 I'm currently testing, we will see.
@mikam8801
@mikam8801 Жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid Is that a US version you’re testing?
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
@@mikam8801 yeah, I don't have the European version
@DanielEarlester
@DanielEarlester Жыл бұрын
Currently unavailable.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
Which link did you try? All of mine are working.
@captaincurt3180
@captaincurt3180 Жыл бұрын
😲
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
😁👍
@danielteegarden8982
@danielteegarden8982 Жыл бұрын
Nope ! Will stick with my Ecoflows...
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
Can't go wrong with Ecoflow. I just wish they made their UPS modes faster and reduced the noise on the inverters. Those are my only complaints about the Ecoflow units right now.
@NoName-rw3xl
@NoName-rw3xl Жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid Is EcoFlow coming out with another power station this year that has corrected the inverter/fan noise? Thank you Jason for all of your testing.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
Delta 2 Max launches in a week or so. They have reduced the noise on the inverter and the fans are MUCH more quiet! Good changes!
@coreyhealth8523
@coreyhealth8523 Жыл бұрын
overpriced in my opinion. pecron is still the best
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
Pecron is a great budget power station but it's hard to compare directly to this one. The E2000 is cheaper because it doesn't have a 2400 watt inverter, internal fast wall charging, UPS functionality, smart app connectivity, or a 5 year warranty / phone customer support. It just depends on what you are looking for and everyone has a different use case 😊👍
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