Setting up Workbench PC + Upgrades (Lenovo ThinkCentre M900 Tiny)

[@wallyaus]

This is an absolutely brilliant video, walkthrough and explanation of everything. Thank you so much. I've been looking to get a Lenovo 920Q Tiny and this just sold it for me even more. Champion!

[@raiderytrideryt]

Sono molto felice dell'acquisto, ha superato le mie aspettative.

[@TheElectronicDilettante]

This is exactly the video I’ve been searching for. Ive been wanting to have a dedicated workbench PC with tons of I/O and with as much performance kit crammed into it that it’s about to burst into flames. And it has an adult runtime??? This kind of video is a myth these days. Thanks sooo much!!! You answered every question I’ve had and a lot more I didn’t know to ask. Thanks again!!!

[@CovenantAgentLazarus]

Shut up..

[@LuisangelMunozramirez-hm6ur]

La atención al cliente ha sido excelente, son muy amables y serviciales.

[@nedimpocket]

I like how he eat and drinks during this video, it's like watching live

[@jorgem50]

I just bought a Lenovo ThinkCentre M715q with Vega 11 graphics to use as an HTPC. Installed Tiny 11 and it plays my 4k movies with zero issues. Love it! Previously was using an older custom built pc but that thing was just too big. I paid $120 for my m715q

[@stinghouseproductions8502]

I can't believe you got the top back on this thing. I've never been able to do so. Mine has been only half on for a year now. Sometimes I try to get it back on but no luck.

[@cesaryahirdelacruz5141]

Dieses Produkt ist eine großartige Möglichkeit, die Leistung Ihres Autos zu verbessern, ohne viel Geld auszugegen.

[@Snnxx_]

Este producto es una excelente opción para mejorar la experiencia de conducción de tu coche.

[@bdhale34]

Windows 11 doesn't have a CPU generational requirement, only that the chip is at least 1GHz, two or more cores and supports AM64 64bit instructions. The thing that stops it from working without workarounds on most older systems isn't failing the CPU or RAM requirements (2+ core 64bit 1+GHz / 4GB), it's missing Trusted Platform Module or TPM version 2.0.

[@zainhanif9558]

Exactly!! I have the Exactly same m900 tiny with a i5 6500t running windows 11 right now that I bought as a barebones for £30 and it even activated itself due to having the windows 10 license in bios. No bypassing or ISO editing required. i just popped in a regular windows 11 usb and it installed perfectly. Its An absolute incredible machine for the price perfect as a media box and can stream games from PC in bedroom to living room so I'm using my 1080ti sitting on my sofa

[@chaosordeal294]

There are a couple of ways to dodge the TPM requirement. I have done it and I don't recall it being particularly difficult.

[@WR3ND]

Very nice video. I agree with a lot of what you're saying here. Also, I happen to be setting up an HP EliteDesk Mini 800 G2 with essentially the same components. They're very neat and capable little systems. 👍

[@jj-icejoe6642]

I have 3 of these 32g ram and 2TB nvme for a efficiency low power proxmox cluster 👍

[@pavelperina7629]

I orderered Fujitsu Q956 few days ago for like 130$, RAM and SSDs are cheap so I plan to upgrade it to 32GB and 512 to 1TB nvme (samsung or wd blue). What partitioning scheme do you recommend and what are mistakes to avoid? I guess I'll use 512GB for windows, 2x40GB for Linux (OpenSuseLeap + experiments), rest for /home and /docker-data?

[@luisalbertoalvaradorodrigu9021]

Die Installation war sehr einfach, auch für jemanden ohne Erfahrung in der Mechanik.

[@lonniebiz]

Great job on this video. You're my brother from another mother!

[@chrishynes1503]

nice video, upgraded ram to 16gb and cpu to i7 6700t installed windows 11 and it runs perfectly

[@aaroncatolico7550]

Awesome! Do you happen to know if it's relatively easy to install/run Linux OS on this pc?

[@chrishynes1503]

@@aaroncatolico7550 I unfortunately do not know

[@aaroncatolico7550]

​@chrishynes1503 also, not sure if he mentioned it in the video, but what is the SSD storage capacity on this Lenovo ThinkCenter?

[@chrishynes1503]

@@aaroncatolico7550 I think it was 512gb

[@vrdrive2538]

thx for the video. good machine for normal use. i see many ppl can upgrade their os to win11.

[@josejavi7079]

Der Kundenservice war ausgezeichnet, sie sind sehr freundlich und hilfsbereit.

[@J3assbox]

I really would recommand undervolting these cpus. Got mine from (Idle/1080p YT/Full load (prime95 + Furmark)) 4/9/34W to 2/5/15W while performance stayed the same. All it takes was a -220mv offset on CPU and -180mv on GPU. Nice benefit: Stays under 60°C, so no more fan screeching, even after 1h full load. But i got the 6500t, not the i7.

[@Seasideboy1]

Brilliant presentation. Thank you so much.

[@nick_7869]

Just got an earlier version of this. If you want a sata ssd in as well, and have good cooling, and you don't mind voiding your warranty, the cases on ssd's comes off so you don't need a caddy. They just plug right in and only an inch or so long depending on model.

[@thinhmai5293]

RAM with bus 2133 is hard to find at my place while the ones with bus 3200 are plenty. Is there any issue if I use 3200 with this mini pc?

[@inocentesantiago3194]

Este dispositivo es una gran inversión para mejorar el rendimiento y la experiencia de conducción de tu coche.

[@1987Redfield]

Hello Please help me! I try to hook my thinkcentre m715q gen2 with a egpu. But I only get a black screen 😕

[@IainNitro]

I thought the video was great. I feel the Crucial P5 NVME SSD 1TB will work fine in my M900.

[@IainNitro]

Update. Installed the Correction P3 1TB NVME. Works a charm. Now that it actually is upgraded to W11 Pro, I plan to add the full 32GB ram (also Crucial) in the near future. Budget constraints dictate I need at least another year for this machine to be my daily driver.

[@robertvoorn1826]

You keep referring to a -V-Pro video, but I cannot find it. Is it not up yet?

[@Mando-2394]

Great vid, thanks for posting. Did you figure out the thermal issues? I have one as well and seems like the fan kicks on more than it should, idles around 50-60 degrees and regular gets up into the 70's just by watching a video. I tried cleaning and reapplying thermal paste, but hasn't really helped.

[@LuisangelMunozramirez-hm6ur]

Este producto es una gran opción para mejorar tu coche y hacerlo más divertido de conducir.

[@dr.sushilkumarph.d.8186]

Great video............Thanks TheN3tw0rq

[@ApothercyCold]

This can run other CPUs and has been doing fine with a TPU of 65w, which gives you a ton of options. I've got a 9100 and 6700K on hand, both LGA 1151, so debating if I want the faster cores or more threads. I'll probably be running proxmox so I'm leaning towards threads.

[@lilsaints92]

I have M910Q and i want install i3 9100. Could you tell me how can i do it please :((

[@ApothercyCold]

​​​@@lilsaints92I responded but I'm not sure if it went through because I included a link. Long story short, it requires modifications to the BIOS and the new CPU itself (or taping some pins, at least). Google, "modify lenovo m900 for coffee lake" and the first three results should help you out (I know you don't have an M900 but it's effectively the same). You'll also need to then worry about the extra heat generated if you run any sustained loads. That means sourcing the 65w heatsink (can only get from China via reshippers, very hard to find), cutting an opening into the case to add a fan, 3D printing a new case top with either a fan hole or at least airflow slits, or running with the case top removed.

[@B0ub1k]

Does this also support 9th gen? I thought it was only compatible with 6th gen.

[@ApothercyCold]

@B0ub1k I researched this back the and ended up going with the 6700K, but it seems that with a little tweaking you can use an 8th or 9th gen.

[@B0ub1k]

@@ApothercyCold You made my day! I have an old i7-6700K and was wondering if I could use it for this setup. Did you make any tweaks? I’ve got a 96-watt power supply, so I’m a bit worried about the power. I was thinking about disabling Turbo Boost since you can’t underclock it. I also thought about getting an i7-7700, but I don’t want to waste money on it because I’m not sure if it would even work.

[@charleshowse3942]

GREAT video. Could you pls link to the manual so I can get it for my M90?

[@ElinicolasLiramorua]

Este producto es una gran alternativa a las costosas modificaciones del motor.

[@KrishnamRajuDatla]

Thank you, This video is very very helpful.

[@GrumpasHauling]

Nice video were do you find all the drivers to install

[@one2toomany]

I've been using non-T cpus. I have the i5 6600, and an i7 6700 working without issue

[@chrishynes1503]

Why can’t I upgrade to a i5 9600t cpu. Same socket 25w. Couldn’t I bios update

[@steeeefano]

Great video. Exacty what I was looking for! Do you know if is possible to use a M2 SSD and a SATA HDD drive at the same time?

[@TheN3tw0rq]

Thanks, yes that shouldn't be an issue at all.

[@CristianCamacho-b3t]

Il servizio clienti è stato eccellente, sono molto cordiali e disponibili.

[@joaott1974]

Amazing video. What a work to do this. I bought one because of you. Thanks !

[@CovenantAgentLazarus]

No. You didn't.

[@theshwigitshow6210]

Really great video!!! I just got this same model and I repasted the CPU last night but when going to update the pc, I noticed that everything (bios version/ME firmware/drivers) are all the original 2016 versions. Is there a preferred order when updating a pc? (ie. bios first, then drivers, and then ME firmware).

[@TheN3tw0rq]

BIOS first, them ME firmware. Drivers I never mess with, during OS install you install the ones directly from the manufacturer as I have done. Generally speaking, if they work, leave them alone. For this unit I used the driver directly from Intel for the Integrated Intel Graphics, instead of Lenovo. Rest of the drivers came from Lenovo.

[@theshwigitshow6210]

@@TheN3tw0rq Awesome, thank you so much :) Keep up the great work!

[@darin1274]

I just picked one up with the i7 as well.. trying to run a USB C docking station to switch between my other laptop and this one and but since the M900 doesn’t have USB C, having trouble getting 2 monitors to work…even with using the USB A to USB C adapter 😢

[@zainhanif9558]

​@TheN3tw0rq just wanted to let you know that you can install windows 11 on it but you have to burn the regular win11 iso from Microsofts to a USB and boot from it for it to install, you can't do it through windows 10

[@zainhanif9558]

​@@TheN3tw0rqI got the same m900 i5 6500t and windows 11 installed perfectly fine from a USB when I got mine last month

[@diskgrind3410]

My unit support DDR4 2666 and up to 1TB NVMe drive. Plus, with no work arounds, I have Windows 11 Pro.

[@TheN3tw0rq]

What CPU are you using? How did you install Windows 11? Rufus, Ventoy? Both slipstream in the registry tweaks when booting the iso.

[@lerxtpratt8101]

Hello, Nice Video and lots of useful information. Do you have more info about your Ventoy USb Drive setup?

[@TheN3tw0rq]

I plan on making a video about Ventoy later on. It got delayed due to life/job.

[@histrigaming7344]

Its a nice homeserver system

[@briankuhn8997]

max memory only 32 gig.. whats the max for the m2/ssd ?

[@cinthiauc919]

La instalación fue muy sencilla, no tuve que hacer ninguna modificación en mi coche.

[@qutips33]

Very nice video how much FAN Noise is there from this pc???????

[@reignmack]

nope

[@thewaterheaterfactory]

Great Video Just picked up a Lenovo Think Centre M710q for $50 / Looking to upgrade it for a dedicated Video Editing Station ! Any suggestions to increase performance? Thanks!

[@randomvidsandstreams9352]

Where are the videos bro missing them 😢

[@DanielPerez-dt5dm]

El precio de este producto es muy razonable por la calidad que ofrece.

[@sos.gamers]

I have the same PC, but im having 2 issues, the first one is that I installed an NVME SSD and a Sata SSD, so everytime I start up the PC it says Error no operating system found, so i have to reboot the PC and then it will start fine, the second and most anoying issue is that I added a GTX1060 8GB VRAM E-GPU to the slot where the Wifi goes, so it works fine, but for example if i install a usb capture card the computers i think it goes a bit underpower, i upgraded the 65w PSU to a 90W PSU but when plugin the 90W the pc doesnt want to turn on... any ideas?

[@osiel5568]

I had the Dell version of this micro pc and learned that they require you use a Dell-branded power supply for full processor performance. It would still boot and work with a third-party 65w power supply, but the processor was reduced to a max clock of like 1ghz or something ridiculous. It’s possible that Lenovo does something similar for its computers with external PSUs. Is the 90w a Lenovo PSU?

[@TheWretchedWorld]

Is there a bios whitelist on this? I want to add an ax210 wifi card

[@unuruguayopescando]

hello nice video, i have a question. ¿ can i use this tiny pc with the lenovo docking station ?

[@cr1ng372]

Nope, docking stations are for laptops and the thinkcentre doesn't have the slots for it.

[@r10001]

Hi do u know if it’s possible to install a thunderbolt 4 port in these machines? I’ve a p360 tiny with a 12th gen Intel. I think cpu supports tb4, I’m just not sure if the space is enough inside these machines to add another port.

[@j.r.young2]

I am looking into getting some of these for my business. Which model is likely to last the longest? I need a system that will be stable for at least the next 5 years. I rarely upgrade hardware. Any thoughts are much appreciated.

[@ApothercyCold]

If you want something you can buy and have work for at least five years without you doing anything to it I would probably get something with slightly better specs.

[@j.r.young2]

@@ApothercyCold why? The last machines we purchased are just now bring problematic due to feature creep and software bloat. Why might I need "better specifications"?

[@HughesyTech]

Thanks for this video, just wondering if you can use Intel AX200 as its PCI-E M.2?

[@zainhanif9558]

Yep

[@nomichlokin2030]

This is better than laptop

[@beauthompson5338]

did they all have a network card?

[@TheN3tw0rq]

What do you mean? These units come with an on-board 1Gbps Intel NIC. It's onboard ethernet on the motherboard.

[@zainhanif9558]

Hey i just wanted to let you know i have the exact same lenovo thinkcentre m900 which i got about a month ago barebones. It have a i5 6500t and using a windows 11 usb it installed perfectly fine. If you try to install win11 from windows update or download the installer it wont work you have to burn the regular iso from Microsofts site to a USB and boot from it to be able to install it. You do not need to edit the iso or anything else just regular windows 11 and the windows 10 product key which comes in the bios activates it so for £30 i got a pc and eventually free full windows 11

[@pedropassamani]

To everyone who's thinking about buying one of these, please don't, you'll save yourself a lot of headache. The BIOS on these systems is broken. From issues with Intel ME (the unconfigure option does nothing) to bricking a system by just changing a simple BIOS setting (don't believe me? Try disabling PXE booting to see what will happen), you'll be asking for a lot of trouble if you pick up one of these.

[@imDonDiestro]

I’m trying to upgrade the graphic card on mine but not sure what will be compatible due to size and power limitations. Any suggestions?

[@zainhanif9558]

Depends if you want it internal or external as internal there's nothing that will fit since it has no full sized pcie slot so you will need to adapt from mini pcie/m.2 to full sized pcie x16 which alone won't fit inside but externally with an adapter if it's only passively powered through just the x16 slot then you need something lower powered like a gtx 1030 or gtx 1650 BUT with no 6 pin pcie power as you are limited to the 75w maximum tdp the pcie x16 slot can provide, unless you will externally power it with a second power supply then you could stick in anything like rtx 4090 but realistically the cpu will be bottlenecking it at that point just build in a tower the 2 power supply's are unnecessary Tldr your options are extremely limited as practically if you want to add a gpu it has to be external and 75w max like gtx 1030 or 1650 without external powerotherwise just use a full sized desktop

[@lyzixperia]

In my case NVME do not support/ recognize by bios Only older m2 sata3 But good lesson about procesor

[@alexsampaio9368]

Slot lga 1151 ??

[@aldobladimirrodriguezgalle7094]

El software del dispositivo es muy intuitivo y fácil de usar.

[@millike22]

great video. i have one a i keep modifiying the pc.

[@JoseMorales-ty9yc]

Este producto es una excelente manera de mejorar el rendimiento de tu coche sin gastar mucho dinero.

[@cr1ng372]

Just a dumb question is it possible to put an i7 9700t instead of 6700t ?

[@TheN3tw0rq]

Nope the 6700T is the best CPU the board can take. The BIOS would have to be updated to support the newer gen CPU, which it doesn't.

[@cr1ng372]

@@TheN3tw0rq thank you for the fast reply, I can't wait to get my hands on one of these little devices and tinker around !

[@cr1ng372]

@@TheN3tw0rq hello, i finally got my hands on one and the seller replaced an i5 with an i7 6700 non t, it gets quite hot when benchmarking with aircrack-ng, should i undervolt it ?

[@francoislherault2694]

@@cr1ng372 Hello, same situation here. I bought a refurbished one from Amazon with an i7-6700 and it was running quite hot. I fixed that by disabling Turbo Boost in the BIOS. It runs much cooler and the performance is only about 5-7% lower. Even with turbo deactivated, I get better benchmarks numbers than the 6700t

[@cr1ng372]

@@francoislherault2694 will do it, merci beaucoup !

[@maestromaestro675]

Anyone tried upgrade to 64GB (2x 32GB) of RAM on this Tiny system? Maybe modules from Crucial (2666 or 3200MHz)!?

[@latbot]

3hrs to upgrade the RAM and CPU in a micro PC. Perhaps a tad long winded.

[@TheN3tw0rq]

OS install and Windows Updates is what took the longest.

[@kamalali8201]

Could I put i5-6500 CPU into this?

[@ApothercyCold]

The M900 comes with a 6500T. Yes, you could easily swap in a normal 6500, or 6700. You can even use the next generation and go for a 7th gen CPU. If you're going to upgrade it, might as well get a gen 7. I only used a 6700 because I had it lying around.

[@billhutchinson6318]

​@ApothercyCold Hi! When you say you used a 6700, do you mean an i7 6700 as opposed to the i7 6700T, or do you mean you used ann i5 6700 opposed to a i5 6700T? If so how do you find the exta power consumption? Do you need to take any extra cooling into consideration? Thank you for your help

[@ApothercyCold]

@@billhutchinson6318 There is no i5 6700. 6700 is always an i7 - it means "gen 6, i7" just like "9900" means "gen 9, i9" etc. It came with a 6500T and I swapped to a normal 6700, non-T. I did switch to a 90w power adapter for it, I got an aftermarket one on Amazon and it's been perfectly fine. You would probably be okay with upgrading to a 65w adapter as long as you're not going to be pushing maximum performance non-stop, but the 90w is like one dollar more so I got it. Outside of changing the power cable I attempted to find the 65w heatsink, but they're very difficult to find. The stock heatsink works perfectly fine, but you will see temps spike to 90+ if you hit the CPU hard for a period of time. The issue is more that the airflow sucks in the stock case - you can solve this by either removing the top of the case, which immediately drops the temps to around 40, or by adding a fan. You can simply cut an opening into the top and mount one, or I'm 3D printing a new cover for it with a fan shroud built in. I also spliced into the stock fan connection, so my new fan runs from the motherboard like the original one. I've had no issues. If you're just going to a 6500 - ie, the system comes with a 6500T and you want to swap to a normal, non-T 6500, you should be totally fine. It does have a 65w TDP so I would still upgrade the power supply if you can, but keep in mind that's 65w at maximum load, not all the time. It should also generate less heat than the 6700, so you may not need the additional fan. You could even just cut a few small slots into the case above the factory heatsink fan to increase airflow; the problems mainly come from the fact that the fan has a hard time pulling fresh air in. Even adding a small opening makes a huge difference. Swapping the CPU is a breeze, so just go for it. Even if it overheats, you're not going to break anything, it'll just thermal throttle and eventually power down. Swapping the CPU is as simple as sliding the case top off, removing the heatsink/fan assembly (just a few screws), popping out the old CPU and putting in the new one. It's practically like Legos at this point. Just make sure you apply thermal paste to the CPU every time - never use old paste, always wipe the CPU clean and apply fresh. You can find videos on KZbin on applying thermal paste, it is very easy and a tube is only a few bucks. It's five minutes to swap it, and five minutes to swap it back if you don't like it. I say just go for it. Worse case is you swap the old chip back in. If you can tell me what you plan to use it for I can give you more definitive information. It's hard to give you accurate data because your mileage will very depending on your goal, like whether want to browse the web, host a Plex server, run Proxmox, or set up a gaming emulator box can drastically change what you do or don't need

[@ApxuBbI]

Certain video parts were useful, so thanks. m... okay.

[@femarmunez3056]

❤❤🥰

[@aaroncatolico7550]

Great coverage you did here in this demo! Do you happen to know if it's relatively easy to install/run Linux OS on this pc?

[@alexsampaio9368]

does m910q work?

[@WAZZZAAAP1]

Yes

[@KevinTrujillo-o9x]

Ich bin sicher, Sie werden dieses Gerät lieben, Sie werden es nicht bereuen, es gekauft zu haben!

[@reignmack]

no need to worry about dust shield alert, yours was smashed to bits...!

[@marianh.5808]

old paste on procesor maybe

[@AlanHenryDeBoerSr]

I thought this was a Chrome OS ONLY computer?

[@allentoyokawa9068]

center*

[@hallga2]

OK

[@boss_juega]

Questo dispositivo ha reso la mia auto molto più veloce ed efficiente.

[@Thessalonian]

Shalom?

[@JediThumper]

K, k, ok, k...k, k

[@CovenantAgentLazarus]

Too many fake bot comments.

[@stephencox4224]

Actually faster ram such as the DDR 4 2400 will run at a faster CAS latency not slower if the BIOS supports it

[@FranciscoGuadalupe-fs9px]

Este producto es una excelente manera de mejorar el rendimiento de tu coche sin gastar mucho dinero.