UK Election 2019 - The Results Are In And...

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@joshwent
@joshwent 5 жыл бұрын
WHY DOES THE MOST UNBIASED AND OBJECTIVE COVERAGE OF THE UK ELECTIONS COME FROM A CAT WHO PLAYS MINECRAFT?!
@joshuafireman1252
@joshuafireman1252 4 жыл бұрын
Josh Wentzell honestly bro
@takashi.mizuiro
@takashi.mizuiro 4 жыл бұрын
true
@dominicthompson82
@dominicthompson82 4 жыл бұрын
Cats don't care about politics
@takashi.mizuiro
@takashi.mizuiro 4 жыл бұрын
Dominic Thompson lol
@jaxtynmaddox5081
@jaxtynmaddox5081 3 жыл бұрын
i guess Im asking the wrong place but does someone know a way to log back into an instagram account..? I somehow forgot the password. I would love any help you can give me.
@bobsteryt
@bobsteryt 5 жыл бұрын
Petition to rename all the political parties after colours
@srgforge2993
@srgforge2993 5 жыл бұрын
The Green party has already started
@Dear_Mr._Isaiah_Deringer
@Dear_Mr._Isaiah_Deringer 5 жыл бұрын
Gives a whole new dimension to colorblindness ^^
@myeffulgenthairyballssay9358
@myeffulgenthairyballssay9358 5 жыл бұрын
2:35 Never seen the UK look like Maggie SImpson before the election...lol
@susancooper4252
@susancooper4252 5 жыл бұрын
Good idea. Everyone will think Labour's the communist party. Not like it isn't already
@thuglifebear5256
@thuglifebear5256 5 жыл бұрын
No. It would ignore all the history and context.
@kieranpiles6845
@kieranpiles6845 5 жыл бұрын
Despite a lot of city youth touting their working class status, their ideas of working class are drastically different than that of a middle-aged industrial town worker. I think Labour appealed too much to cities so much so that they lost what was considered "working class policies" in favour of metropolitan social activism policies. All in all this election was a mess.
@matyashale6768
@matyashale6768 5 жыл бұрын
This is exactly it... The "real" workers of the country couldn't care less about nationalised broadband or water, but many of the "real" working class DID vote brexit, and the majority of them are itching for it to be done. It's been a combination of successful smearing of the left, as well as the left being more and more out of touch with who their party was originally supposed to represent.
@hollin220
@hollin220 5 жыл бұрын
Kieran Piles Hey man! Totally agree with you. Im a Leftist from America and we have similar issues here. The Democrats have been moving away from traditional labor policies and towards SJW issues that do not appeal to industrial workers or folks who were in manufacturing. The 80s / 90s saw the collapse of the traditional industrial economies and The Left has yet to address the problems facing the working poor outside of cities. If you have the time could you comment and elaborate on the failures of the Labour Party? I think the rise of Conservatism in the West as more of a failure of The Left rather then a genuine shift towards the right. For example in the US 2016 election the vote for Trump was more of a protest vote rather than an ideological vote; mostly because Hillary was appalling to most small town working class people.
@brandon9172
@brandon9172 5 жыл бұрын
@@matyashale6768 So what do the "real" workers of the country want? What labor policies do they want?
@matyashale6768
@matyashale6768 5 жыл бұрын
Astoris now obviously i do not represent the entirety of the “real” workers, however I’m from a working class suburbain constituency myself. I did vote labour because my main tactic was to not have Johnson in power, and likewise many people who typically vote labour did the reverse to what I did; tactically voting conservative to not have Corbyn in power (there’s a stigma with voting for smaller parties like Brexit, green and LibDem as it’s seen as a wasted vote). There’s so many ways that someone could unpack your question, but the easiest analysis comes from the main reason northern labour seats turned blue. Corbyn was smeared for not having a clear stance on Brexit, and indeed his stance conflicts his “respect the referendum result” view back in the 2017 snap election. Boris took this to his full advantage and constantly accused him of having no clear agenda, and the people began to believe him. Meanwhile, Boris’ impatient “get Brexit done” slogan (or words to that extent) really resonated with the “real” workers (as I’ve said, who largely voted Brexit particularly in the north). They want the process to be done, and some are becoming so impatient that Boris’ snappy Brexit process may seem like a breath of fresh air that these workers wanted, not Corbyn’s drawn out (yet democratic) process involving negotiations followed by a second referendum as to whether we agree with the negotiation (if not, we cease Brexit as a whole, which would have been illegal as the legal Brexit documents have been signed). In short, the workers want Brexit done, and a lot of workers believe that they can prosper and thrive again without the EU. (As I say I’m not a representative hah!) Another reason could be how some have seen Corbyn’s promises as rather patronising. I think it was the leader of the Scottish Labour Party who said this, that offering free stuff like the internet can come across as a way of buying voters. Personally, I think nationalisation of rail should happen, but it would indeed take more than 5 years to de-privatise. I know this doesn’t answer your question as to what the workers want, but it certainly answers what they found unappealing... thus didn’t want. Overall your question is the golden question that could have saved labour around 50 seats, but nobody knows, all we can get are people to speak up, and parties to deliver in an integral, and not playful, manner.
@matyashale6768
@matyashale6768 5 жыл бұрын
Astoris a load of things they want that is unsure about whether the Conservative party can deliver on are: NHS to survive and not be privatised More money put into the NHS More money put into schools, and reduce the average class size Minority rights (lgbt and racial as well as economic) to NOT be threatened Secure state pensions To stop the increasing age of retirement There’s countless things... these are just what is off the top of my head. People wonder where they’d get the funding from, but I also wonder how the Tory’s got the funding when they flashed millions of pounds to the DUP during the hung parliament result of 2017, there’s clearly possibilities to reach these goals but evidently, these issues are now over 50% conservative responsibility
@jayloudermilk7268
@jayloudermilk7268 5 жыл бұрын
Spent too long fighting a referendum and eventually the people get so sick of it they just vote for it to end. What's it been, like 4 years now?
@anon3567
@anon3567 5 жыл бұрын
Well, more people voted for the 2nd referendum block...
@spmiles98
@spmiles98 5 жыл бұрын
@@anon3567 except that means nothing in our current system. Lib dems were too busy being the remain party that they split the vote with labour, greens, snp.
@hijinx6252
@hijinx6252 5 жыл бұрын
The deal would've ruined the country
@anon3567
@anon3567 5 жыл бұрын
@@spmiles98 That's not what I'm saying though. I'm just saying what you are saying is not reflected in the election result. The conservatives won because of fpp, not because the people supports their platform on brexit. Saying that that is the reason is disingenuous, since most people voted for remain parties and polling data shows that most people think voting "out" was a mistake and most people would vote "remain" if there was a referendum.
@cookiequacky8615
@cookiequacky8615 5 жыл бұрын
3 and a half it’s pissing me off now as it was in 2017 and 2018 and will be in 2020 and probably 2021 and 2022. Jk 2020 would’ve been 2024 at least if Corbyn got in
@RoyalFizzbin
@RoyalFizzbin 5 жыл бұрын
“The north has kind of rejected the policies of the red.” You think? 😂
@theeasternspy266
@theeasternspy266 5 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@WizardToby
@WizardToby 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds a lot like what happened in the US in 2016. Places around the Great Lakes (Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin) had a huge unexpected flip to more conservative voting.
@turkoositerapsidi
@turkoositerapsidi 5 жыл бұрын
@@theeasternspy266 bolševik?
@theeasternspy266
@theeasternspy266 5 жыл бұрын
@@turkoositerapsidi nah. Norwegian. I live in America now though.
@turkoositerapsidi
@turkoositerapsidi 5 жыл бұрын
@@theeasternspy266 Åk, lycka till dig 🙂 fron SUOMI (🇫🇮).
@Pining_for_the_fjords
@Pining_for_the_fjords 5 жыл бұрын
I guess the UK is a pregnant woman Because it's got labour pains. I'll see myself out.
@Raddyk12
@Raddyk12 5 жыл бұрын
Pining for the fjords 😆😆😆😆
@userequaltoNull
@userequaltoNull 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing.
@alexanderhowarth6460
@alexanderhowarth6460 5 жыл бұрын
Nah, look at a map it's a witch riding a pig
@Stevenwaton
@Stevenwaton 5 жыл бұрын
Or cos its going to birth an independent scotland
@shadowfan982
@shadowfan982 4 жыл бұрын
That won't happen
@captain-chair
@captain-chair 5 жыл бұрын
Labor lost when they forgot their target demographic wanted Brexit...
@jeffsyndrome4812
@jeffsyndrome4812 5 жыл бұрын
It's really sad because Corbyn in himself is actually anti EU, but his party demonstrably isn't, though they should be due to their supposed ideology. I'm a JC supporter, and he isn't perfect, but there was literally nothing he could do to appeal to the leave voters, which his opinion agrees with without his party turning against him. Its a really annoying situation, and all the blame goes on Jeremy. Perhaps rightly so, perhaps he should have stepped down, but whatever the case, Labour needs to get its shit together quickly.
@captain-chair
@captain-chair 5 жыл бұрын
Corbyn was forced to drive a swerving car, with broken brakes, i have no real grudge against Corbyn myself (mind you im not a Brit, but still part of you commonwealth of nations) my real problem with Brexit is the shear amount of dishonesty around it, and the fact it draws us from the real questions and problems, like Global Warming, China (Political Intervention in Hong Kong), or the problems that come from an increasingly Federalizing European Union. Im glad this saga that has overstayed it's welcome may soon have a conclusion...
@captain-chair
@captain-chair 5 жыл бұрын
Henrik Wallin and that part of how they lost their demographic as well.
@jeffsyndrome4812
@jeffsyndrome4812 5 жыл бұрын
@@captain-chair I agree. Besides, Boris practically won this election because of brexit and Labour's lack of conviction about it. Perhaps they will make a comeback once brexit is over. God I hope.
@hollin220
@hollin220 5 жыл бұрын
Seems to be a trend amongst the Left in The West to be out of touch with their base of supporters. Its really sad that the SJW / liberal / yuppy / city elites have hijacked traditional Left parties.
@theb3654
@theb3654 5 жыл бұрын
My cousin in the UK told me the red party has truly become the red party if you know what I mean.
@andysmith4699
@andysmith4699 4 жыл бұрын
Many view them as anti-british. Many of their mps are constantly on twitter ranting about white people/white culture. You can imagine what these people are like.
@Harry2
@Harry2 4 жыл бұрын
@Jamie Brennan you must be the only one
@darthsawlex8257
@darthsawlex8257 5 жыл бұрын
I think they are pronounced like Isles of Silly btw.
@benkernow280
@benkernow280 5 жыл бұрын
They Are Defiantly called that :)
@hailgiratinathetruegod7564
@hailgiratinathetruegod7564 5 жыл бұрын
How silly of them.
@darthsawlex8257
@darthsawlex8257 5 жыл бұрын
@@robinthebobin6537 I haven't the slightest of clues.
@steampunklemur
@steampunklemur 5 жыл бұрын
@@robinthebobin6537 It's because the Isles of Scilly are part of the St Ives constituency, all of the constituencies votes are counted in St Ives
@steampunklemur
@steampunklemur 5 жыл бұрын
@@robinthebobin6537 As far as I understand it, it's to do with population. In order to make it as fair as possible, there are population limits on constituencies, which is why the Scottish Highlands' constituencies are so big and London's are so small. The Isles of Scilly and the rest of the St Ives constituency obviously don't meet these population requirements and so are grouped together
@franticranter
@franticranter 5 жыл бұрын
It was flat out brexit. A few other things might’ve hurt labour a bit, but labour lost its labour heartlands because the labour heartlands largely voted leave
@MichaelGGarry
@MichaelGGarry 5 жыл бұрын
Because far too many people are uneducated on the issues they vote for. I am from a very working-class area and have seen it all my life.
@brianbks02
@brianbks02 5 жыл бұрын
What do you mean uneducated?
@andreastom1755
@andreastom1755 5 жыл бұрын
@@brianbks02 General fact of life, more deprived areas like the north have much lower quality of education, and thus the people often aren't as well educated. Additionally, the lack of high skill jobs in many of those areas mean that a lot of them move to the cities where those jobs exist, which as you can see labour dominated.
@MichaelGGarry
@MichaelGGarry 5 жыл бұрын
@@brianbks02 I mean both uneducated on the issues they are voting on (ask the average voter about the EU and how it works with the UK, they don't have a clue) and in general. I grew up in a poor working class place, a Labour heartland. The people I grew up with either did not care at school or were actually *proud* to fail. They didn't see the point in working hard at school as there were no jobs to get, or very low-skilled ones. They were just planning for a life on the dole. Then those remaining jobs largely disappeared and all of a sudden those same people are competing with a global working population - many low-skilled jobs are not geographically bound. Having worked in SE Asia and seen how hard pretty much ALL students work compared to what I grew up with is night and day. Then look at how both major parties have totally abandoned certain areas - the NE of England, parts of Wales, the SW of England, etc. Labour don't need to work for these regions as their vote was substantial and "guaranteed". The Tories didn't care about them as they were no-win seats. Then came Brexit. Add an abandoned, low skilled, non-educated population to the chance to rebel, added to the ongoing lies and xenophobia towards the EU for decades from the national media and here we are. People voted for Brexit thinking it was the root of all the evils against them, when in reality most of those evils were from Westminster and their own actions. Places like the NE of England and Wales get far more in funding from the EU than Westminster, but they don't see that. Nissan is the biggest employer in the NE and they don't see how they are risking that by voting leave. They see immigrants taking their jobs when in reality most of those immigrants they see are non-EU and the jobs have left anyway. It was a perfect storm many years in the making and its going to have a devastating effect on the country for a very long time to come. There won't be a a UK in 5-10 years.
@xCeL46
@xCeL46 5 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelGGarry I'm university educated Geological Scientist, I voted Brexit. Calling People Unskilled and Uneducated is gross generalisation. I'm from Yorkshire and I couldn't be more happier about the result. We have been in Stagnancy for so long under labour finally something fresh has happened. The EU Should have stayed as the Economic Trade agreement and not evolved into the mess it has become-an extremely alienated and closed of circle that doesn't connect with the public at all. Brexit has to happen, it was democracy. If Brexit is not pursuit, then we might as well not have a democracy. Saying to people "we don't know why we voted" is extremely rude and causes only more division, especially doing generalizations. Xenophobia? Really? That's not just a Brexit voter thing you know? Labour also had absolutely ridiculous proposals this election that just came across as a Joke and honestly things that aren't important. Please don't bunch Brexit people as this idea of uneducated racists.
@ZaKRo-bx7lp
@ZaKRo-bx7lp 5 жыл бұрын
Conservatives have no excuse to not deliver Brexit now. May and her cabinet was remainer, then the rump parliament delayed Brexit exposing the Parliament and the Establishment as Remainer in a Brexiteer Majority country. Now, that the majority of the country has been better represented, there's every reason to expect Brexit to be delivered before December 2020.
@hollin220
@hollin220 5 жыл бұрын
Krass Grass Honestly man its inevitable some sort of Brexit is going to happen. Between the referendum and this election its hard to argue that the majority of English voters are for Brexit. And I say English on purpose as its pretty obvious Scotland wants to remain and N. Ireland and Wales are on the fence.
@teenriot-de
@teenriot-de 5 жыл бұрын
"Now, that the majority of the country has been better represented" That's not true. Conservatives lost popular vote against parties that are against Johnsons Brexit politics. The majority is not represented in a proper way. British vote system is anti democratic as hell. May they call it tradition. I call a repeated failure dumb. Same with the referendum. You cant do such things without a quorum. Otherwise you have the b**ls**t you had, especially in combination with the broken vote system. All together you do things against majorities. And thats why there will be no "great" in Great Britain soon. You ran against a wall by tradition with the slogan "its a mistake, but its our mistake and we are proud of".
@sosogo4real
@sosogo4real 5 жыл бұрын
@@teenriot-de "unless what I want wins it isn't fair"
@teenriot-de
@teenriot-de 5 жыл бұрын
@@sosogo4real "Conservatives lost popular vote" That's a fact, no oppinion. Unfair is when the loser wins.
@WritingGeekNL
@WritingGeekNL 5 жыл бұрын
sosogo Popular vote is more democratic because you actually need a representation of the majority of the people to rule. The other side of the spectrum might be my country The Netherlands, in which we have a small majority of 4 parties because of a shattered system. But the Brittish aren’t able to do such a thing, too arrogant of their own ideas to even consider to work together. It’s why Brexit takes fucking 4 years. Best thing is to blow it off and pretend like it never happend...but hey, you want it this badly, the EU has been prepared for like two years now. It’s the UK that will most likely crash and burn after Johnson’s deal.
@tedtedfourteen
@tedtedfourteen 5 жыл бұрын
how did a minecraft channel turn into a politics channel
@oxenford539
@oxenford539 5 жыл бұрын
hexagonal maps are a natural progression from cubes i guess?
@tedtedfourteen
@tedtedfourteen 5 жыл бұрын
@@oxenford539 lol
@benalias5766
@benalias5766 5 жыл бұрын
Coal mining has been a contentious subject in British politics since the 70s.
@irreview
@irreview 5 жыл бұрын
@@oxenford539 @Tedted Fourteen, His style is uniquely suited for information-dense election results.
@julianturner69420
@julianturner69420 5 жыл бұрын
This is his 2nd channel lol
@JC_303
@JC_303 5 жыл бұрын
Scilly is actually pronounced "silly" How scilly is that?!
@inny74
@inny74 5 жыл бұрын
Get outta here.
@christopherellis2663
@christopherellis2663 5 жыл бұрын
The Isles of the Blessed
@Bulley
@Bulley 5 жыл бұрын
Scilly beats out Sicily's Scilly pronunciation by a margin I would only describe as "Sicily"
@PiousMoltar
@PiousMoltar 5 жыл бұрын
@@Bulley Both Sicily and Scilly are pronounced exactly how they look imo. You could make an argument for Scilly being pronounced Skilly I suppose. But how else could one pronounce Sicily?
@Bulley
@Bulley 5 жыл бұрын
@@PiousMoltar idk I was just using it is a homonym for "sissily" in that since it's a similar name. I've heard people somehow pronounce Sicily as "sickly" before if that matters at all. It made sense to my just-got-home-from-a-long-shift brain. Not so much now.
@BruvaLucius
@BruvaLucius 5 жыл бұрын
All of Stoke is now blue which is honestly just banter Toycat
@ewanlewis3919
@ewanlewis3919 5 жыл бұрын
“Scottish Nationalist Party” - SNP stands for Scottish National Party.
@markjohnson9476
@markjohnson9476 5 жыл бұрын
Scotlands version of the NSDAP
@ewanlewis3919
@ewanlewis3919 5 жыл бұрын
Mark Johnson How can planning to rejoin the European Union be Nazi Ideology?
@jochemvanrens8938
@jochemvanrens8938 5 жыл бұрын
@@ewanlewis3919 they will use the eu to take over england;)
@ewanlewis3919
@ewanlewis3919 5 жыл бұрын
jochem van rens Loving your use of sarcasm
@SpiritEngine
@SpiritEngine 5 жыл бұрын
Common mistake! 'National' means it's the party of the country, the party of Scotland in the current UK political context. That's all
@leonlawson2196
@leonlawson2196 5 жыл бұрын
The big reason Labour does poorly in Scotland is tactical voting. People choose SNP because they are more likely to take Tory seats up here than Labour are these days.
@bearthenomad1770
@bearthenomad1770 5 жыл бұрын
On one hand, yes, on the other, independence.
@hollin220
@hollin220 5 жыл бұрын
Can you elaborate?? Ignorant American here. I figured the SNP was gaining support in reaction to Brexit and an overall desire for independence.
@pzsilospasz2668
@pzsilospasz2668 5 жыл бұрын
This is not true. Sure there are conservative-SNP marginals in northern and southern Scotland. In the rest of Scotland the conservatives had no chance of winning and people still preferred them to Labour.
@jameshoggisthebest
@jameshoggisthebest 5 жыл бұрын
@@hollin220 Basically traditionally (not sure with Jeremy Corbyn running the gaff) many folk in Scotland were Labour supporters. Some were conservative, and nationalists too. Since the SNP & Torys have the larger shares, Scottish labour supporters vote SNP to guarantee that they don't lo se seats to the conservative party
@hollin220
@hollin220 5 жыл бұрын
James Hogg That same mentality / reasoning is why most Left Americans vote Democrat. We dont like the Dems most the time but we hate the Republicans ALL the time. My situation is frustrating and can sometimes feel undemocratic. I wanna say that talking politics is a favorite of mine. Its been very enjoyable talking about it without the ugliness or name calling. Its been rough here in America the past 4 years. Thanks man
@destructernator9675
@destructernator9675 5 жыл бұрын
11:00 if the British empire was still a major power during the space race
@ihl0700677525
@ihl0700677525 5 жыл бұрын
Well, they do have sir Bronson and his Virgin intergalactic. At least they are already in the race, unlike most other nations.
@wilklikesmilk5371
@wilklikesmilk5371 5 жыл бұрын
0:57 The Con-Uh Blue Party
@shadowfan982
@shadowfan982 4 жыл бұрын
"don't mention parties toy cat"
@WritingGeekNL
@WritingGeekNL 5 жыл бұрын
People have been calling this bad.... The Dutch Labour Party(PvdA) in the 2017 election was much and MUCH worse. It went from 38 to 9 seats, out of 150. And the voter share went from 24.8% to 5.7%, it was a loss of almost 20%. The Labour party is peanuts compared to this loss.
@__eee__
@__eee__ 5 жыл бұрын
This is better commentary than what I've watched in tv.
@SuperSMT
@SuperSMT 5 жыл бұрын
TV is trash, the whole lot of it
@kal9001
@kal9001 5 жыл бұрын
Literally just finished watching the other election video from 2 days ago... and this was uploaded seconds before I went back to the home screen :D
@northboyo7054
@northboyo7054 5 жыл бұрын
I love how unpolitical you kept this video on politics
@bit0159
@bit0159 5 жыл бұрын
Corbyn never said whether he wanted Brexit or try to stay in the EU. That probably hurt Labour most.
@TyphoonTheTank
@TyphoonTheTank 5 жыл бұрын
love how you call it blue vs red
@fatshibaballs
@fatshibaballs 5 жыл бұрын
TYPHOONX10 probably do he doesn’t get demonitized.
@dry0campa155
@dry0campa155 5 жыл бұрын
Big Bird you can get demonetised by saying conservative or labour? Fuck off lmao
@logan8638
@logan8638 5 жыл бұрын
@@dry0campa155 wouldn't be surprising, this is youtube
@BeEmoBro
@BeEmoBro 5 жыл бұрын
You didn't talk about Wales!
@jamessheerin121
@jamessheerin121 5 жыл бұрын
No one does.
@KYLE-tw9ie
@KYLE-tw9ie 5 жыл бұрын
he's not David Attenborough
@venmis137
@venmis137 5 жыл бұрын
And that's why, sadly, Wales will also leave the union.
@captain-chair
@captain-chair 5 жыл бұрын
Because nobody can pronounce your party names...
@hollin220
@hollin220 5 жыл бұрын
Hey ignorant American here. My Moms family is Irish and my Dads is Scottish so I try to pay attention to politics there. Sadly, I dont know a thing about Welsh politics. I always assumed Labour and Plaid Cymru were the main parties. Would love to hear your opinions and any info about Welsh politics. I was looking at the name of some of the districts in Wales. For Christ sake some of those names are insane!
@Xamimus
@Xamimus 3 жыл бұрын
I love how toycat says the colour rather than the actual names of the parties.
@niallfoody97
@niallfoody97 5 жыл бұрын
just to correct u, it was the blue leader with the big glasses that actually negotiated peace.
@agent_605
@agent_605 5 жыл бұрын
Niall Foody Who also said prior to this election that you shouldn’t vote Blue
@Alto53
@Alto53 5 жыл бұрын
No he didn't.
@agent_605
@agent_605 5 жыл бұрын
Liam Yes, he did
@perrytheduckypus1133
@perrytheduckypus1133 5 жыл бұрын
LD: Gains Votes in the South East Also LD: Loses its only seat in the South East to the Conservatives
@wickedpuma6331
@wickedpuma6331 5 жыл бұрын
loses seat of leader in scotland
@ibx2cat
@ibx2cat 5 жыл бұрын
FPTP is an amazing system lol
@AdamSmith-gs2dv
@AdamSmith-gs2dv 5 жыл бұрын
LD: loses leaders seat to the Scottish Nazi Party
@morbalis5047
@morbalis5047 5 жыл бұрын
They only held north Norfolk because of Norman Lamb, when he resigned it instantly turned blue.
@sudocreme5080
@sudocreme5080 5 жыл бұрын
Another perfect example of why we should have a system of proportional representation for Westminister elections. Preferably PR-STV
@stumbling
@stumbling 5 жыл бұрын
Hmmm I've just had an interesting idea: Keep MP elections FPTP but replace the House of Lords with proportionally elected representatives.
@WolvesBrandon
@WolvesBrandon 5 жыл бұрын
@@stumbling Not a bad idea, to be fair. I would personally oppose on the grounds that I like having an unelected, weaker, supplemental chamber - and because the name wouldn't work anymore. But still, an idea worth discussing, and a new one, as far as I can tell.
@sudocreme5080
@sudocreme5080 5 жыл бұрын
[sic] then the House of Lords will no longer be subservient to the House of Commons and we could end up with gridlock like what is extremely common in America. I’d argue for STV, as it is proportional (which is good), keeps local representation (which is very popular), eliminates the spoiler effect, allows people to rank candidates by preference and simple. It’s what we use in the North of Ireland/ Northern Ireland for council, assembly and European elections, and if it’s seen as acceptable and fair in one of the most tense and polarised societies in the world, then it would work well in the UK.
@yaj1v
@yaj1v 5 жыл бұрын
The reason that will never happen is because of Churchillist influence on British politics. He was notoriously against any non-FPTP system.
@Ron.S.
@Ron.S. 5 жыл бұрын
Sudo Creme remain would have won!! 52%-47% (1 others. Independents)
@kajkaj2705
@kajkaj2705 5 жыл бұрын
R.I.P Labour party
@bignose140
@bignose140 5 жыл бұрын
RIP The UK!
@sudthskap
@sudthskap 5 жыл бұрын
@@bignose140 Yup yup. Scotland's out and Ireland's going to unite. Good for them I say, leaving this shit show while they can.
@connor9568
@connor9568 5 жыл бұрын
Up the England
@colonelkk
@colonelkk 5 жыл бұрын
RULE BRITANNIA 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@sudthskap
@sudthskap 5 жыл бұрын
@@colonelkk 'BRITANNIA' wont be a thing anymore
@captainwilliam3920
@captainwilliam3920 5 жыл бұрын
Redcar? More like bluecar now
@billylardner
@billylardner 5 жыл бұрын
Brexit lost labour the north. If they respected the result of the referendum the results would have been very different.
@williammoore6534
@williammoore6534 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry I dont know much about UK poltics so could anyone explain the two major partys stances on things like gun control and immigration or if thats to much is the conservative party in the UK like the Republicans in America and is the labor part like the democrats. Thanks for any answers
@sudthskap
@sudthskap 5 жыл бұрын
Nobody here likes guns. Conservatives arent strictly anti-immigrant but they want tighter control than Labour
@sudthskap
@sudthskap 5 жыл бұрын
And no, Labour is not like the democrats because Labour is left wing (The democrats are the left party in america but tend to be right of the centre)
@williammoore6534
@williammoore6534 5 жыл бұрын
@@sudthskap what about their views on free speech
@gabryalservus157
@gabryalservus157 5 жыл бұрын
@@williammoore6534 Labour want further restrictions on speech and the conservatives don't care
@williammoore6534
@williammoore6534 5 жыл бұрын
@@gabryalservus157 ok thanks
@joshridgeon4777
@joshridgeon4777 5 жыл бұрын
The way “Leigh” was pronounced hurts me. It’s “lee” rather than “lay”.
@tomascinnsealeach9979
@tomascinnsealeach9979 5 жыл бұрын
Ah yes Santa's coming this Christmas in his Slee haha
@HarrisonJamess
@HarrisonJamess 5 жыл бұрын
Josh Ridgeon made me laugh because the town near me is called Leigh-on-Sea (Lee) and all my friends were really concerned
@gulfermendi6367
@gulfermendi6367 5 жыл бұрын
No
@PiousMoltar
@PiousMoltar 5 жыл бұрын
It's my middle name so yeah that one hurt
@alecpies
@alecpies 5 жыл бұрын
“Second channel do care” Wait that’s illegal
@kal9001
@kal9001 5 жыл бұрын
Red would have probably done better if they had taken a solid stance for brexit. Corbyn used to be a euro-skeptic, and over this summer Labour were practically single handedly responsible for delaying brexit twice. The Labour heartlands were predominantly pro-brexit... that's almost all you need to know about why Labour got destroyed. I don't feel the conservative campaign went well AT ALL... issues like changing the twitter name to mislead people, all the anti-labour stuff all just stinks of being under handed rather than standing by your own virtue. Lets just hope Bojo returns to the quirky, likable, go-getter that gained so much support. If he stays the meek, bumbling, interview dodging boris there will be people asking for blood!
@nuclearnadal8855
@nuclearnadal8855 5 жыл бұрын
Corbyn was boxed up to backing remain because of the strong Blairite cabal within the party pretty much.
@hollin220
@hollin220 5 жыл бұрын
Nuclear Nadal we have a similar cabal in the US Democratic party. They tend to support life-long members who are entrenched in the party, and are centrist to right-leaning. Thats how we got Hillary in 2016 and Jon Kerry back in 2004. Thats why you see so much support for Biden now in our election. He is safe, centrist, easy for the party insiders to control. Whereas the base of support in the Dem party and Labour are experiencing a populist anti-establishment vibe. I wonder what the solution or remedy is to combating the people who steer their parties and run the political machine?
@shaunpmarshall
@shaunpmarshall 5 жыл бұрын
That and the fact socialism and terrorism are not exactly welcome
@Hecatonicosachoron
@Hecatonicosachoron 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, bj only marginally increased his vote share with his ridiculous antics. People just were pushed away by Labour’s brexit position and Corbyn’s bad image in the media. It’s also true that the left are actually traditionally quite anti-EU. So for many it was a choice of brexit vs. a left wing econom8c programme, and not being that confident that Labour can pull it off they decided to go for brexit. It’s a shame that Skinner went, that was foolish.
@stevenhale2935
@stevenhale2935 5 жыл бұрын
Nurses are already struggling. If you think the Tories aren't bad news you're absolutely deluded. Multiple members of the current cabinet want a privatised nhs.
@aubreygraham5821
@aubreygraham5821 5 жыл бұрын
Good for Northern Ireland
@stokesy887
@stokesy887 5 жыл бұрын
The tories will never implement a privatised NHS, it is a sure fire way to never get elected ever again.
@shaunpmarshall
@shaunpmarshall 5 жыл бұрын
Labour are hypocrites. .they did plenty to privitise the NHS ...only idiots fell for corbyns bulshit
@TeslaHaxz
@TeslaHaxz 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, your socialized health service couldn't handle a massive influx of immigrants, shocker...
@stevenhale2935
@stevenhale2935 5 жыл бұрын
@@TeslaHaxz any evidence that migrants are stretching the nhs? People who come to the UK as adults also have to pay national insurance whilst not sapping the nhs for money as children. There's plenty of money knocking around for the nhs, it just isn't being used. Learn before you comment.
@dylanteren
@dylanteren 5 ай бұрын
KZbin suggesting me this video after 2024 elections is crazy.
@kgkitkat
@kgkitkat 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining it in a way someone who's not from the UK can understand! I was curious about what's going on but being from the US I don't have a lot of knowledge about the background of everything. :)
@elliotsodergren2270
@elliotsodergren2270 5 жыл бұрын
Just to clarify Boris is not Trump and Boris doesnt even like trump
@sudthskap
@sudthskap 5 жыл бұрын
@@elliotsodergren2270 Thats why hes selling our NHS to him
@jamiengo2343
@jamiengo2343 4 жыл бұрын
@@sudthskap yeah alright mate we’ve heard it for decades now, it’s getting tiring
@sudthskap
@sudthskap 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamiengo2343 damn it's almost like I said it a year ago, when it was topical
@jamiengo2343
@jamiengo2343 4 жыл бұрын
@@sudthskap and the opinion which you voiced is a common one voiced even now across the Internet.
@dzentrax4517
@dzentrax4517 5 жыл бұрын
Why dont they take the % votes and split it so if some party gets 10% of the votes they get 10% of seats
@NegativeAccelerate
@NegativeAccelerate 5 жыл бұрын
Dzentrax I see how that would benefit brexit, but generally you want someone that also represents your area and you might prefer someone from another party who is a stronger leader in he government that gets things done in ur constituency than someone who is less powerful but has more of your ideas
@oniondesu9633
@oniondesu9633 5 жыл бұрын
It works great for libertarians who want permanent gridlock with no new policies being passed, but if you want your party to be able to pass policies when they are in power, you probably want it to be possible for them to have a majority in parliament.
@martychisnall
@martychisnall 5 жыл бұрын
Its both a win for blue and a loss for red
@TheGerkuman
@TheGerkuman 5 жыл бұрын
Most of the grunt work for the Good Friday agreement was done by John Major. Blair took the credit for it.
@ibx2cat
@ibx2cat 5 жыл бұрын
I've heard this a few times in the comments, my bad if so!
@anubisbling
@anubisbling 5 жыл бұрын
A 1% gain of 1000000 is much bigger than a 100% gain of 10
@matthewrichard9626
@matthewrichard9626 4 жыл бұрын
You say it's not a blue win but the last time a party won over 43.6% of the vote was in 1979.
@EdwinWalkerProfile
@EdwinWalkerProfile 5 жыл бұрын
I think the idea that Corbyn's ideals were so unspeakably radical that he was unelectable is sort of ridiculous. Consider the fact that the founding of the NHS was overseen by Clement Attlee, a prime minister who doesn't get enough credit because he wasn't the "war hero" that Churchill was. Attlee also nationalised basically everything while he was in office. Thatcher didn't dare touch the NHS but the modern Conservative government have certainly started a process. And you can't sit back and watch it happen and claim that it isn't happening all at once and therefore it is not happening at all. But maybe with the ageing population of the country, we'll never see a Labour government again. We'll only continue to see public services die. Bristol no longer has any public toilets, but that only affects the most vulnerable people so it doesn't matter.
@gstowey
@gstowey 5 жыл бұрын
Churchill was overrated
@benfoster4240
@benfoster4240 5 жыл бұрын
Dont know if you explained in previous video but is there a reason why you say Blue party over conservative party or Red party over Labour party
@The_Yosh
@The_Yosh 5 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@hollin220
@hollin220 5 жыл бұрын
Yo it was kind of annoying but he might be trying to avoid being penalized by KZbin. They are really arbitrary when it comes to demonetizing political videos even when they arent radical in any way. Just a guess
@chriswall27
@chriswall27 5 жыл бұрын
I am a red (labour) voter normally but voted blue (conservative) which toycat has not stressed exactly how much of a big deal it is for us to switch votes, for me (and many I know) changed our votes mainly because of Brexit however although our red party said this was not the "Brexit election" for MOST of us in the former mining and industrial towns of the north all that did was reinforce the feeling that party had forgotten about us, personally it helped to make one of the hardest decisions in my life (I can't stress how much our areas hate the blues, it is similar to USA red/blue feelings) when the labour party started throwing unaffordable promises to us to try and win votes because they were behind in the polls... In the metropolitan areas the influence of the EU has been mainly skilled immigrants helping the local economy and in areas like mine of course they too help the economy but the immigrants generally are unskilled and driving down wages of warehouse, driving, retail and construction (which I would argue is actually skilled) jobs, I thought I best explain why I would vote for just one reason, there are many more reasons to which at it's core is that I believe in 20-30 years there will be a very high level of automation/self-service that most unskilled jobs will not exist and universal basic income will become a reality funded by some kind of automation business tax but then I think we will be thankful of a shrinking population which can only be guaranteed through controlled borders, sorry Europe, I do love you but to avoid a madmax (joking....ish) style society we at that point will have to look after number 1. I have digressed I am sorry, as said a big decision for us dumb northerners.
@quintessence2183
@quintessence2183 5 жыл бұрын
Mate we have a net loss of 200K based on immigration to death rates.
@chriswall27
@chriswall27 5 жыл бұрын
@@quintessence2183 yes so when even when farming is automated we won't need as large population for society and larger populations will just be a burden, I hope I am wrong as I know it's very negative :)
@quintessence2183
@quintessence2183 5 жыл бұрын
@@chriswall27 If that were true, it would break capitalism. Immigration is a neccesary step in infinite economic growth and if the population stops growing, so too will the ecomomy. It's economics 101.
@chriswall27
@chriswall27 5 жыл бұрын
@@quintessence2183 Indeed you are right but that does not make my doomsday prophecy wrong! If you studied past economics 101 you would learn that most economists believe there will one day be something that replaces capitalism or that it will evolve into something else, what, who knows?
@quintessence2183
@quintessence2183 5 жыл бұрын
@@chriswall27 Yes, a mixed economy.
@ihavenosociallifedaddy0253
@ihavenosociallifedaddy0253 5 жыл бұрын
Is this what they meant by the blue wave?
@AragornRespecter
@AragornRespecter 3 жыл бұрын
I sometimes go back and watch the coverage of this election for… reasons… This is so neutral and informative to the layman that it is honestly impressive. And it comes from a Minecraft KZbinr, kudos! Edit: Hang on, I just realized this is an entire second channel. Wow…
@KYLE-tw9ie
@KYLE-tw9ie 5 жыл бұрын
diane abbott will be a good labour leader, for a laugh
@hollin220
@hollin220 5 жыл бұрын
kyle watt I like Angela Rayner. Great rags to “riches” story. We dont have many legitimately working class people running for office hear in the US. Was exciting to read her Bio. Wearing two left shoes is a funny story. I guess Ms Abbott is so dedicated to the left she refuses to compromise even with her footwear! 🤣
@niallhiggins2342
@niallhiggins2342 5 жыл бұрын
hollin220 Angela Rayner is horrific dude
@PsilentMusicUK
@PsilentMusicUK 5 жыл бұрын
Even though I'm far more left-wing than he is, I quite like Keir Starmer. He's well-spoken and intelligent. If he were elected and kept a decent amount of the progressive economic and green policies that Labour suggested this time, I'd be willing to back it.
@JonerMFC
@JonerMFC 4 жыл бұрын
@@PsilentMusicUK this aged well
@PsilentMusicUK
@PsilentMusicUK 4 жыл бұрын
@@JonerMFC It's too early for me to pass judgment. When the next manifesto is launched I'll have my answer. The deal breakers are the National Investment Bank, renationalization policies and some semblance of the Green New Deal. If they don't pledge these things then it'll be the Greens for me come 2024.
@lookslikecrepe
@lookslikecrepe 5 жыл бұрын
There's not a major split in the SNP over EU membership - especially among the parliamentary party. Though, it could be argued one exists in the fringes of the independence movement (it's usually reported that a third of people who voted Yes in 2014 voted Leave in 2016).
@aFlacidIguana
@aFlacidIguana 5 жыл бұрын
I love your Politcis videos man. So unbiased and knowledgeable. I also enjoy trying to guess which way you voted (pretty sure you're LD). Though one thing, Labour did not want to nationalise broadband, merely have it's own competition to push connectivity across the country. Keep it up man.
@hollin220
@hollin220 5 жыл бұрын
JimmyMcLeod What sets apart the Lib Dems from Conservatives? The Lib Dems seem to be pro-business, libertarian-like, but for social justice. The Lib Dems remind me of moderate Republicans here in the US. Thanks man
@aFlacidIguana
@aFlacidIguana 5 жыл бұрын
@@hollin220 I would say that the Lib Dems are more like your Dems. However, frankly, they seem to sway left and right from election to election so its sometimes hard to grasp their intentions. They generally claim to try to find a centre ground between labour and the tories
@hollin220
@hollin220 5 жыл бұрын
JimmyMcLeod thanks man. Ive been all over the comment section on this video because I love politics. Its been refreshing to be able to approach the subject without things getting ugly. Politics in the US is super toxic right now :(
@Tommy-dz3do
@Tommy-dz3do 5 жыл бұрын
hollin220 Liberal Democrats are more closer what the “new labour” party of Tony Blair was then anything else tbh. Essential neoliberal (i.e low taxes, deregulation, free trade, free market, austerity etc.) economics mixed in with the social and cultural politics of the new left and also they are really globalist. Simply put, they are neoliberal progressive internationalist.
@kadennelms8419
@kadennelms8419 2 жыл бұрын
He’s a Monster Raving Loony Party type of guy. Seems like a toycat position
@cillianmcneela4645
@cillianmcneela4645 5 жыл бұрын
Think you may have forgotten that NI does have their own parliament as such ‘Stormount’, which is different as it elects an ‘assembly’ where the two largest parties (DUP & SF) are in power together to resolve issues. It has not being performing great in recent years however...
@wildpearrunning1408
@wildpearrunning1408 5 жыл бұрын
This is why we need ranked choice voting watch cpg grey for more
@bjnz
@bjnz 5 жыл бұрын
Wild pear running 1 But it leads to less direct voting that nearly always ends up in coalitions of many parties which dilutes voters votes as many compromises would be made in order to form these coalitions of power; just look at European countries...
@anarchostatist191
@anarchostatist191 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone: *Nothing* Right wing party: *wins an election* Every Educational KZbinr: "CHANGE THE VOTING SYSTEM! IT'S NOT FAIR!" I mean the timing is always suspect but it's not wrong. Although changing it wouldn't stop the cries either.
@oniondesu9633
@oniondesu9633 5 жыл бұрын
You would end up with a system that "feels" more fair but enjoy the permanent gridlock in parliament.
@Christian_TH
@Christian_TH 5 жыл бұрын
If there is, when is the election for the house of lords? Im not british so i dont really know how this works.
@rykermoorcroft4474
@rykermoorcroft4474 5 жыл бұрын
Guttastemning The house of lords is an unelected house so the election will be never
@simonbebek344
@simonbebek344 5 жыл бұрын
Its kinda still like a monarchy. Some places are even inherited!
@Christian_TH
@Christian_TH 5 жыл бұрын
Oh wow. How democratic!
@agent_605
@agent_605 5 жыл бұрын
Guttastemning It sounds bad but the House of Lords doesn’t really disrupt the House of Commons, they just make minor tweaks to bills to basically cover any mistakes the Commons have made.
@hijinx6252
@hijinx6252 5 жыл бұрын
There isn't one they inherit it
@tdb7992
@tdb7992 5 жыл бұрын
At least Boris is very pro-Australia. A lot of us would like to see a CANZUK trade and free-movement system started just like we in Australia have with New Zealand. It'd be great to have more Brits and Canadians here.a block of those four nations would have an incredible USD$7.7T economy and become a really major player in global politics.Anglo brothers, unite! :)
@Derperfier
@Derperfier 5 жыл бұрын
If it was done on popular, Labour, Lib Dem’s, SNP and Green parties percentiles reach over 50%, which is why we do need a popular vote.
@Derperfier
@Derperfier 5 жыл бұрын
(As that means remain got more votes but still lost due to FPTP).
@zombieguyproducion
@zombieguyproducion 5 жыл бұрын
R.I.P SNP if they start going by popular vote
@ciangargan
@ciangargan 5 жыл бұрын
Labour lost so bad because of their wishy washy Brexit policies that didn't satisfy either the remain or leave voters.
@Crick1952
@Crick1952 5 жыл бұрын
If you look at the raw numbers of 2017 with 2019, not many Labour voters switched over. They just didn't show up. Labour did a horrendous job by taking no clear stance on Brexit.
@zsac18
@zsac18 5 жыл бұрын
Bluexit means bluexit
@movedaccount2596
@movedaccount2596 5 жыл бұрын
What website is that?
@hollin220
@hollin220 5 жыл бұрын
X9 Sgt. Snoot NY Times has a great interactive map. Not sure the site he is using.
@wintrwunderland
@wintrwunderland 5 жыл бұрын
BBC News’ election map.
@Fatalinvesting
@Fatalinvesting 5 жыл бұрын
This was essentially the second Brexit Vote.
@bjnz
@bjnz 5 жыл бұрын
Darksouls129 no... Many people acknowledged that the first result should be honoured so voted Conservative as opposed to going with their stance on Brexit.
@maplesyrup8369
@maplesyrup8369 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting to note that between LAB, SNP, LD and GRN you have 50,3% which means that a majority of voters actually voted for a remain party. Had the UK had List PR we'd be looking at a very different result =)
@therealbaylee
@therealbaylee 5 жыл бұрын
But a majority of seats are con and not every voter is in favour of remaining
@maplesyrup8369
@maplesyrup8369 5 жыл бұрын
@@therealbaylee I think you misunderstand the point. A majority of the British population voted for parties that favored staying in The European Union. Because of how the electoral system works, popular majority does not mean that you get a majority of seats in parliament. If you win a constituancy it does not matter whether you have 100% of the vote in that area or 50.1% of the votes in that area, the result is the same. In other words the constituancies that voted for left-wing parties have more clear cut winners in general while conservative constituancies were more neck-to-neck in general. In the UK you have a first-past-the-post on a local level in elections for your parliament where you select the party you want to represent you in parliament, the coalition that wins chooses that representative of a constinuancy for parliament. In other countries no such thing happens, you don't have local representatives but instead you vote for a party and the person you want to support to get into parliament and then all the votes across the country is tallied together to create a proportional representation of the entire populations voting result. Now there are benefits and deficits with both systems mind you, critics of the English system point to a democratic deficit, whereas critics of a more proportional system point to issues with favoritism of Urban areas and deficits in representativeness.
@kalyka98
@kalyka98 5 жыл бұрын
I never understood the labour position on brexit. Are they pro or against? They chose not to choose and they lost everyone
@ZaKRo-bx7lp
@ZaKRo-bx7lp 5 жыл бұрын
Against if you're not with Brexit you're against it
@brandonstephens2644
@brandonstephens2644 5 жыл бұрын
The one I'm suprised about was Blyth Valley changing to Conservative. Ronnie retired and they took massive advantage of it.
@17andtravelling
@17andtravelling 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly we need to move away from first past the post and create a system which actually represents the amount of people voting for the smaller parties. Lib Dems should have gotten more seats and likely the same with the green. I wish we could vote for the local MP we want and then the party overall that we support - apparently that's how it's done in Germany and it seems more likely to work than the mess we have here
@jmunday7811
@jmunday7811 5 жыл бұрын
It's called AMS or MMP abroad!
@jmunday7811
@jmunday7811 5 жыл бұрын
@@inkllama5445 Other countries are always in coalition and they do fine..
@kylewestrip531
@kylewestrip531 5 жыл бұрын
That's known as AMS, and it's already used for some elections in the UK (for the Scottish parliament I believe)
@stokesy887
@stokesy887 5 жыл бұрын
J Munday they do fine because they don’t have any massive decisions to make. While Brexit is around, any form of coalition would only further the current catastrophe it has been.
@NegativeAccelerate
@NegativeAccelerate 5 жыл бұрын
Natalie Greaves yeah we do that in Ireland and I found it strange that my friends up north weren’t able to vote for the sane, non-extreme like stlp and alliance parties and had to vote for for sin fein to avoid the DUP getting seats even though none of my friends support nationalism they just don’t want brexit. Down south u vote everyone you want and I was surprised by their votes.
@TAILSORANGEs
@TAILSORANGEs 5 жыл бұрын
Hmmm... Is the Blue party sort of a LIGHT VERSION of Singapore's PAP (Singapore's PAP-lite)?
@kevintheomanharris
@kevintheomanharris 5 жыл бұрын
Some decent similarities here to the Democrats ignoring the Rust Belt working class in the 2016 election.
@jackh3570
@jackh3570 5 жыл бұрын
But labour didn't ignore the working classes they lost as badly as they did purely because of brexit
@hollin220
@hollin220 5 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that the majority of workers in North England were for Brexit. The message from Corbyn and Labour was too convoluted. Boris Johnson smashing through walls (a recent publicity stunt) and having such a firm, loud, clear message resonated more. Labour and the Dems have the same problems. Since the collapse of traditional industry and manufacturing there has been a failure of messaging and policy. The Dems and Labour have not done enough to improve the lives of those effected most by the post-industrial world we live in. And when they have its typically not broadcasted loud or clear enough for people to understand. Its a problem for The Left across most Western democracies. The parties that traditionally fought for labor rights and welfare nets are now representing the urban, SJW, yuppy / elite interests. Especially in America there really is no working class party. And I am worried Labour in the UK is the same. Its difficult to vote for a party that talks more about social justice when our water is poison, our infrastructure is crumbling, Walmart is the only store in town, and there is horse shit being served for lunch, dinner, and breakfast.
@RedInferno112
@RedInferno112 5 жыл бұрын
Who did you vote for?
@itsbea3859
@itsbea3859 5 жыл бұрын
You used the wrong here/hear in your description. Perish.
@Deltelly
@Deltelly 5 жыл бұрын
Quick, if pedantic, correction: SNP is the Scottish National Party, not Nationalist, as you said, with all that negatively implies. They want Scotland to be a Nation (once again).
@ibx2cat
@ibx2cat 5 жыл бұрын
nationalist doesn't have to be negative, but they are not not nationalists sorry!
@Deltelly
@Deltelly 5 жыл бұрын
@@ibx2cat Thanks, and reading back my comment it does seem a bit nippy so sorry about that. Think I still had a bee stuck in the proverbial about how it was used to try and smear the SNP during the independence referendum. Think I need to go and read up a bit more on nationalism if, as you say, it doesn't have to have negative connotations. Love both channels btw.
@im.not.typical91
@im.not.typical91 5 жыл бұрын
I see another Scottish referendum in the future....
@thetechoasis2179
@thetechoasis2179 5 жыл бұрын
Never going to happen, we don't want it, SNP is only like 40% of the population
@anz3533
@anz3533 5 жыл бұрын
"We" don't want it? I think you mean "I don't want it"
@aubreygraham5821
@aubreygraham5821 5 жыл бұрын
TheTechOasis the majority of the population wants to remain in the EU, so it’s actually pretty likely
@thetechoasis2179
@thetechoasis2179 5 жыл бұрын
@@anz3533 no i mean ''WE'' as a country don't want it we already rejected it once. the majority of us don't want it
@callummcgregorenthusiast5545
@callummcgregorenthusiast5545 5 жыл бұрын
TheTechOasis the election was the perfect chance to go out and prove it then.
@xxtommygunxx6760
@xxtommygunxx6760 5 жыл бұрын
Why do you use blue and red? Why not conservative and labour?
@Void-uj7jd
@Void-uj7jd 5 жыл бұрын
I witnessed it live. Was fucking hilarious watching them get vaporized from the universe 😂😂😂
@acegarcia3719
@acegarcia3719 5 жыл бұрын
I think this is a permanent political realignment in Britian. The Tory's have officially become the party of the rural industrial areas and the Labour party has become the party of big cities. The red wall has fallen but expanding the red spots is their future path to victory, and the Tories path is to keep them as small as possible.
@dommoore6180
@dommoore6180 5 жыл бұрын
Let's just see how people's opinions change when things really go down the shitter - crying 'brexit' isn't going to be able to cover everything up forever.
@leonardlangner9949
@leonardlangner9949 5 жыл бұрын
Love how red and blue are opposite to America 😂
@irreview
@irreview 5 жыл бұрын
Tim Russert is behind the US convention. But 'red' for leftist/labour/liberal makes more sense intuitively. But like language, it just goes to show how we naturally split off our symbols.
@zacksima8333
@zacksima8333 5 жыл бұрын
i mean republicans were more liberal back then... Lincoln era...
@ritchiemcfadzean8753
@ritchiemcfadzean8753 5 жыл бұрын
@@zacksima8333 The Republicans used to be the blue party, if you look back at elections in the 1980s and early 90s the GOP was blue and the DEMs were red. But it somehow changed in the 90s.
@inverse8584
@inverse8584 5 жыл бұрын
this is a decent way of putting it for Americans: Labour party (Red) is being run by left of bernie sanders, and its traditional voters are blue colar voters, so they're doing well in London (California and NYC) but getting distroyed in the poorer parts of the country.
@2nd100k
@2nd100k 5 жыл бұрын
Vote toycat
@Mister.Psychology
@Mister.Psychology 5 жыл бұрын
I wanted to make that hexagon map for other countries. But it seems like you can't really do that for Denmark for example. UK is perfect for it I think. But maybe I'll try again. It's not that hard creating it. But you need the right kind of country.
@Gia1911Logous
@Gia1911Logous 5 жыл бұрын
Uk election? More like England election
@Damo2690
@Damo2690 5 жыл бұрын
Excuse me?
@Gia1911Logous
@Gia1911Logous 5 жыл бұрын
@@Damo2690most of the population of the UK is from england, so england basically decides the fate of the whole union
@Kolateak_
@Kolateak_ 5 жыл бұрын
@@Gia1911Logous I feel this in western Canada
@jamesBFC1887
@jamesBFC1887 5 жыл бұрын
2:25 you need to do you're research. The last double digit majority was just 4 years ago (12), labour also won a 60 seat majority in 2005 and 160 seat majorities in 2002 and 1997 while the Tories won in 1992 with a double digit majority. So no, it want the first double digit majority since 1987, it was the sixth
@earlnuclear
@earlnuclear 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the rundown my dude. Personally I voted green party as they are the most sensible in my area, but eh, I know its a no go for them in parliament.
@dylantd9189
@dylantd9189 5 жыл бұрын
I did the same thing (in the Australian election), I voted for one of the two non-major parties and they were actually the only non-major party to win a seat in my state. So I'm glad at least there is some sort of voice of my prefered party in government.
@mlgsty8880
@mlgsty8880 5 жыл бұрын
I wish I could have as clear vision as you guys who I would vote since parties in Finland do really like to jump sides depending who leads the party at the time. Currently I agree most with the social conservative/nationalist party I think. One thing is clear at least, our current government is horrible, prime minister had to resign due to mass strike by our official post service.
@Samuel-xf5qz
@Samuel-xf5qz 5 жыл бұрын
@@mlgsty8880 antti rinne?
@mlgsty8880
@mlgsty8880 5 жыл бұрын
@@Samuel-xf5qz Yeah thats the guy who resigned.
@lunac6094
@lunac6094 5 жыл бұрын
FPTP means sadly the 865,000 green voters across the country will only be represented by one woman
@falconofbalasagun4163
@falconofbalasagun4163 5 жыл бұрын
Toycat please make a video on the the beef between Turkey and Cyprus over the eastern Mediterranean oil and gas drilling rights.
@Iramico
@Iramico 5 жыл бұрын
I ve never been into politics whether it was my own country or the country I live in .. so i couldnt care less about whats happening in England.. But I m here to listen to toycat talk
@JCEurovisionFan1996
@JCEurovisionFan1996 5 жыл бұрын
England is now being run by racists.
@adrianatgaming8640
@adrianatgaming8640 5 жыл бұрын
@@JCEurovisionFan1996 you take things to the extreme too much.
@hijinx6252
@hijinx6252 5 жыл бұрын
The UK not england get it right
@hijinx6252
@hijinx6252 5 жыл бұрын
@@JCEurovisionFan1996 agreed but it's the UK not england
@hmwat1623
@hmwat1623 5 жыл бұрын
How does voting in the UK work? They got less than half of the votes but more than half of the seats!?
@PanzerVor1099
@PanzerVor1099 5 жыл бұрын
one seat per area, they got 203 areas vs 364 from conservatives
@agent_605
@agent_605 5 жыл бұрын
Basically the country is divided into 650 constituencies with represent roughly 80000 voters. All a candidate has to do to win a seat is get more votes than anybody else. This means they just have to get 1 more vote than the party in second place (or in the case of a tie, win a coin toss!). This means, as happened in this election, most MPs got in with less than half the vote
@TeslaHaxz
@TeslaHaxz 5 жыл бұрын
@@agent_605 I mean, when you have more than 2 parties, that's what happens
@agent_605
@agent_605 5 жыл бұрын
Tesla Haxz Yes, and every seat had more than two parties. It was particularly an issue for those who support remaining in the EU who were split between Labour and the Liberal Democrats and ended up splitting the vote in a number of seats causing them to be won by the pro-Brexit Conservatives, which weren’t really contested by any other pro-Brexit party as the Brexit Party stood down in all existing Conservative seats
@TeslaHaxz
@TeslaHaxz 5 жыл бұрын
@@agent_605 failing to see the issue, the party with the biggest %of the vote won.
@minihwas
@minihwas 5 жыл бұрын
We held a mock vote in our school and got around 65% labour. It's mad how different ages think so differently
@oxenford539
@oxenford539 5 жыл бұрын
it's because young people tend to be more idealistic in their views and as they grow older their views become more practical and realistic. arguments against that idea have been stated for decades, but election after election similar age-based voting tendencies remain unchanged.
@hollin220
@hollin220 5 жыл бұрын
Churchill had a good quote in regards to this
@proxy4620
@proxy4620 5 жыл бұрын
@@oxenford539 The youth are willing to dream a little and their ambition is how society progresses, and when people grow older they realize that their former goals may be too difficult to reach and shoot for something more pragmatic. It is pretty much how the cycle usually goes, with exceptions every now and then with old progressives and young traditionalists but those are rarer.
@sheddinator
@sheddinator 5 жыл бұрын
my school had 76% tory lmao
@goldstriketv123
@goldstriketv123 5 жыл бұрын
Gen z is the most conservative generation since ww2
@firewulfz
@firewulfz 5 жыл бұрын
I know you are not a political channel,but as an American this was the only election breakdown video that was very concise and clear, but I could still follow along with my limited knowledge of uk political structure.
@bearthenomad1770
@bearthenomad1770 5 жыл бұрын
Toycat, Labour or "Reds" as you put it, aren't far left remotely. They supported more rights for trade unions but im sorry, the UK would still have had the least aggressive tax policy in Europe, no more taxing against the rich than Germany is. Labour aren't far left and never really have been, the contrast comes from the fact that the Tories are pushing further right
@hollin220
@hollin220 5 жыл бұрын
As an American its amazing how appealing Labour is to me. We really dont have a working class party here. From your comment though I may be viewing Labour through ROSE colored glasses.... rose.... get it.... 😕
@sudthskap
@sudthskap 5 жыл бұрын
@Salterino Kripperino Democrats in the states are hardly left wing
@proxy4620
@proxy4620 5 жыл бұрын
@Salterino Kripperino OK boomer, that was one of the cringiest comments made under this video.
@fogdelm
@fogdelm 5 жыл бұрын
I stumbled across your channel by accident. I love the fact that I can't tell what you feel about the win either positive, or negative. Your enthusiasm for politics and analysis is infectious. BBC needs to hire you up and put you on television as an educator to explain what all this is about without trying to spin it either conservative or labor.
@Pining_for_the_fjords
@Pining_for_the_fjords 5 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: More people voted for pro-remain parties in this election than for pro-leave.
@TeslaHaxz
@TeslaHaxz 5 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: fun facts dont choose the direction a country will move in. Government seats do.
@simokoistinen7470
@simokoistinen7470 5 жыл бұрын
Make a remix from this! (4:22)
@hollin220
@hollin220 5 жыл бұрын
As a US worker who is dissatisfied with the Democratic establishment it was interesting to see the the workers of the UK vote against Labor. The Left in the West really needs to sit down and think hard on their strategies or they will continue to loose base support. Im in favor of going further and further left but as pointed out in this video the Tony Blair’s of the world (moderate leftists) tend to be the most successful. The parallels are interesting. Sad day for the working class.... cynically a good day for Scottish Independence and Irish Unification. 🇮🇪 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@hijinx6252
@hijinx6252 5 жыл бұрын
It's not all of us I promise if trump is by some miracle impeached I might move to America
@hollin220
@hollin220 5 жыл бұрын
Its gonna be tough. It sounds like Im being biased but Republicans really care about the party image over the rule of law and respect for the Constitution. I guess the centrist Democrats are guilty of the same thing but I hear a lot more self-criticism from Dems the Rep. Republicans put party over country most the time and we need about 20 senators for vote for impeachment. I think the strategy behind impeachment is to expose Trump’s criminal activites and abuse of office. He is more likely to be voted out of office then impeached. Then again I am pretty cynical
@meteoman7958
@meteoman7958 5 жыл бұрын
@@hollin220 The senate doesn't vote for impeachment (laying the charges), they vote innocent or guilty.
@nicolorivoir4399
@nicolorivoir4399 5 жыл бұрын
So the red party now needs to give up Scotland and split between an urban and a rural-industrial party with an electoral pact at the next elections (in how many years?), right?
@michaeltnk1135
@michaeltnk1135 5 жыл бұрын
Can you just call it Conservatives and Labours, as to not confuse Americans who have their colors switched
@hollin220
@hollin220 5 жыл бұрын
Made this joke already but... Not sure if Im watching Bob Ross or a political video. “Im gonna go ahead and run all the colors you’ll need for today’s video along the bottom of the screen.” 🎨
@nessesaryschoolthing
@nessesaryschoolthing 5 жыл бұрын
@@hollin220 "The Labor Party doesn't make mistakes... just happy accidents." "A little bit of First Past the Post to make the colors distinct. It doesn't always have to be realistic." "We've got Scotland up here, let's give them a friend. Actually, let's let them have some time alone."
@redswanmusic3627
@redswanmusic3627 5 жыл бұрын
No. Confusing Americans is fun
@hollin220
@hollin220 5 жыл бұрын
nessesaryschoolthing Bahahahahaha. Dude that was spot on, hilarious.
@michaeltnk1135
@michaeltnk1135 5 жыл бұрын
redswan music Yes it’s so funny to misinform people from certain countries (obvious sarcasm)
@georgehill3421
@georgehill3421 5 жыл бұрын
What has always slightly boggled me and continues to do so is that the economic arguments for partially Nationalising broadband infrastructure are so much more compelling than doing it for the Railways, and yet most people support the latter but not the former.
@jimmyjames5685
@jimmyjames5685 5 жыл бұрын
I agree, but railways have been nationalised in the past and the public were not prepared for broadband nationalisation it just popped up out of nowhere at the end of the campaign.
@tekrantgaming7424
@tekrantgaming7424 5 жыл бұрын
It's Scottish National Party please do not confuse it with nationalists. They do a whole lot more for Scotland than any other party please don't just see them as the pro independence anti brexit party there's a lot more too them than that although that's definitely one of there many big goals
@TheGokudragon
@TheGokudragon 5 жыл бұрын
SNP is actually Scottish National Party not nationalist party
@sweetwheatsy
@sweetwheatsy 5 жыл бұрын
See, I understand your point about both parties sticking it to each other with false smears (also a consequence of First Past the Post, ofc), which is bad - but you're also taking a stab at some of the apparently exaggerated points from the left-side, f.ex. the privatization of the NHS, which, to your mind, would not be something the Torys advocated for directly, as it would be extremely unpopular (correct!), and that the democratic tendecies are to have the responsibility. But if you've also established that the voting system is pretty sheit, and rather undemocratic in the sense that a lot of people's views are not entirely manifested into actual mandates, I don't think it would be necessarily a bad worry to have. The Tories can have the ability to perform some things that might seem unpopular, especially with their majority (just as Labour could if they had that) - since the majority in broarder terms allow them to change some fundamental conditions for the discourse of the country, and garnering to the elite and overseas businesses, selling off critical infrastructure could perhaps be a scenario that could occur, since they're not that under scrutiny. I'm not taking a stab at you personally - it's a good thing you attempt to stay as neutral as possible in these vids (no matter what your actual convictions are), but moreso to keep your reasoning aligned - since, as I mentioned, bringing up the talking point that "it's a democracy" (infering that in it's purest setting, in a way), when beforehand having complained about the extremely flawed electoral system, is not perfectly aligned to my mind
@sweetwheatsy
@sweetwheatsy 5 жыл бұрын
@SAnd PaPer Porky is a neo liberal
@pghewrexham2704
@pghewrexham2704 4 жыл бұрын
8:07 Leigh, I'm from near there and it's pronounced like lee
@Ron.S.
@Ron.S. 5 жыл бұрын
As an “Orange Party” voter (LibDems..), we actually increased our power by 50% AND in my constituency we even GAINED a seat (just outside London) which I’m proud of, but it’s been a disastrous election since in other seats, we simply “drank” labour’s votes and split the remain campaign. If you take the remain vote = 33.2%(Labour)+11.5%(LibDem)+3.9%(SNP)+2.7%(Green)+~1%(PC)+~1%(SF)= 52% REMAIN 43.6%(Conservatives)+2%(Brexit)+~1%(DUP)=47% 1% Looney Party and Elmo...
@benalias5766
@benalias5766 5 жыл бұрын
I can't see how LD have increased power. They had some influence before the election because parliament was split and a smallish number of MPs could make a difference. That's no longer the case.
@Ron.S.
@Ron.S. 5 жыл бұрын
Ben Alias I meant increased our vote share (by 1.2 million) but as you can read I’ve written that it’s been a disastrous campaign for us nevertheless. Our large vote share hasn’t materialised into seats and moreover helped the Toris gain seats from Labour - look at Kensington 26,000 LibLab 16,000 Tories and they won the seat by about 100 votes. It’s been like that in dozens of constituencies and it’s frustrating that the Labour didn’t want to work together with us, The Greens and Playd Cymru
@irreview
@irreview 5 жыл бұрын
That is the truth. In France, the other parties are smart enough to drop out when faced with a threat like the National Front. But SNP and LD kept harping on Labour, nonsense about Swinson being caretaker PM (as opposed to the leader of the opposition Crobyn, as convention demands), SNP decimating Labour (which is founded as a Scottish Party). Brexit Party even slashed into the Conservative victory in some districts, the parts that Labour won (Stoke on Trent North) were due to Brexit stealing from the Blue party. Which wasn't enough, for example, in Stoke-on-Trent South, which the Conservatives did capture.) TOO MUCH VOTE SPLITTING TO CALL A FAIR RESULT. Con. party only got ten percent more nationally, but capture nearly double the seats. The electoral college on steroids.
@Ron.S.
@Ron.S. 5 жыл бұрын
irreview unfortunately it’s party before country for Labour and LibDem. 33+11% and if they run together as a one off (happens sometimes in Europe), they split the seats according to percentage in a Remain coalition. Each party is holding primaries beforehand with rankings of MPs from 1-300 for example. But the pride...
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