UK Machete, Zombie Knife Law, What is a Zombie Knife according to the Home Office? Do they know?

[@WessexBladesHandMadeKnives]

Wessex Blades..Hand Made Knives in UK, sharing knowledge, getting outdoors when I can! Thank you all for your continued support despite the hard time social media gives knife makers!!! We need your comments and shares and LIKES!!! Blade length or Overall Length ? Original vid kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpWqgGqPe9mkeMk the link assets.publishing.service.gov... 2.-(1) The Schedule to the Criminal Justice Act 1988 (Offensive Weapons) Order 1988(a) is amended as follows. (2) In paragraph 1, after sub-paragraph (s) insert- “(sa) the weapon sometimes known as a “zombie-style knife” or “zombie-style machete”, being a bladed article with- (i) a plain cutting edge; (ii) a sharp pointed end; and (iii) a blade of over 8 inches in length (the length of the blade being the straightline distance from the top of the handle to the tip of the blade), which also has one or more of the features specified in paragraph 1A and which is not a weapon that falls under paragraph 1(s);” (3) After paragraph 1, insert- “1A.-(1) For the purposes of paragraph 1(sa), the specified features are- (a) a serrated cutting edge (other than a serrated cutting edge of up to 2 inches next to the handle); (b) more than one hole in the blade; (c) spikes; (d) more than two sharp points in the blade (other than a sharp point of a kind specified in sub-paragraph (2)). (2) The kinds of sharp point mentioned in sub-paragraph (1)(d) are- (a) a sharp point where the angle between the edges which create the point is an angle of at least 90 degrees (where there is a curved edge, the angle will be measured by reference to the tangent of the curve); (b) a sharp point on the cutting edge of the blade near the handle.” and for custom/hand made etc ) After paragraph 5B, insert- “5C. It is a defence for a person charged- (a) with an offence under section 141(1) of the Criminal Justice Act 1988; or (b) with an offence under section 50(2) or (3) of the Customs and Excise Management Act 1979, in respect of any conduct of the person relating to a weapon to which section 141 of the Criminal Justice Act 1988 applies by virtue of paragraph 1(sa) to show that the weapon in question is one of historical importance. 5D.-(1) It is a defence for a person charged- (a) with an offence under section 141(1) or (1A) of the Criminal Justice Act 1988; or (a) S.I. 1988/2019, amended by S.I. 2002/1668, 2004/1271, 2008/973, 2008/2039, 2016/803 and the Offensive Weapons Act 2019 (c. 17). There are other amendments but they are not relevant. 3 (b) with an offence under section 50(2) or (3) of the Customs and Excise Management Act 1979, in respect of any conduct of the person relating to a weapon to which section 141 of the Criminal Justice Act 1988 applies by virtue of paragraph 1(sa) to show that the weapon was made by hand. (2) For the purposes of sub-paragraph (1), a weapon is made by hand if the making (including construction, finish and decoration) of the weapon is accomplished predominantly by one or more of the following methods- (a) hand labour; (b) manually-controlled methods which permit the maker to control and vary the construction, shape, design and finish of each part of each weapon (including the use of hand-controlled power tools). www.wessexblades.com www.wessexblades.com/bladeswo... www.youtube.com/@WessexBladesHandMade... Over 10 years of tips and tricks on You Tube modifying Military Survival Knives watch next 📽 ⚒Wessex Golok review www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRC2X... ⚒abrasive review for knifemaking belts kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJ6qqIlso9-SecU ⚒I also do kydex... kzbin.info/www/bejne/gomsqKqNdruqpck ⚒leather work tutorial kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqi4fImpn9lmsM0 by Scott Williams of Wessex Blades ( National Geographic Preppers UK 2), custom image tooling and knife design by Wessex Blades 😀Also known for modifications on J Adams MOD survival Knives from Sheffield, the Leuku Bush and camp knife ( TA Outdoors) , Ralph Martindale Golok NO.2 sharpening and the Falchion heavy Bowie(Bug Out Vehicles UK). Should you wish to help the channel grow and get exclusive content and benefits, then consider www.patreon.com/wessexblades fan page on facebook facebook.com/groups/18298... email for reviews/ID etc [e-mail] website wessexblades.com Wessex Blades..Making knives, sharing knowledge, getting outdoors when I can!

[@disband_thebbc5933]

It's a societal problem not a sharp edged metal implement problem. If someone has ill intent they can do damage with a stout wooden stick ground to point on a paving slab.

[@cujomojo]

It’s never the tool, it’s the intent. It was less than two weeks ago that a young gentleman (let’s just say he wasn’t a native inhabitant of this country) threatened to stab me with probably the biggest decking screw I have ever seen. Needless to say some words of discouragement and a picture painted in his mind of what was about to happen to him made him reconsider.

[@iandennis7836]

​@@cujomojojust got off the plane, had he?🙄

[@cujomojo]

@@iandennis7836 Wasn’t sure it it was a plane he arrived on, but thinking about it, it must have been a plane. That screw was a definite puncture risk.

[@iandennis7836]

@@cujomojo I was sort of losely referring to " not native" . I have this sort of attitude to how people behave rather than what they look like......cos at the end of the day, a scrote is a scrote, regardless of their origin......and as it happens I don't discriminate age wise either, some scrote comes at me with bad intentions, I'll happily sortbthem out regardless of their age....and yes that DOES include "children ".

[@terryhayward7905]

What the government do not seem to understand is that law abiding people abide by the law. Criminals just ignore the law. Outlawing knives does nothing to stop criminals having and using knives.

[@dongkhamet1351]

Reading the comments here and on similar videos, it seems clear that every normal citizen knows how absurd this situation is. It seems like it might be time to start thinking about and discussing solutions to this issue. If people don't start standing up, with a view to challenging and rolling back the absurdity, it will continue. These things don't stay still: they go in one direction or another. All of this legislation is in contra people's basic human right to make, sell, purchase, use and carry useful tools. Tools which have been fundamental to human culture from time immemorial.

[@WessexBladesHandMadeKnives]

hence why I spent so long writing, emailing and filming editing, I hope I can encourage others to send to their MP, local stations...

[@dongkhamet1351]

@@WessexBladesHandMadeKnives yes, that is most commendable. 'Hat's off to you sir! My own solution was to leave the UK for a US state that upholds the Constitution as regards blade ownership, use and carry. So I haven't been much help to you all, but you have my support. I think about the situation over there, a lot, ineluctably.

[@COJASh1]

@@dongkhamet1351 I left 34 years ago to a state that up holds the constitution AR.

[@TheDavewatts]

As if criminals are going to worry if they're breaking the law, if they were they wouldn't be criminals.😂

[@chrisboddy9775]

Don't think stabbings by a certain demographic are done by knives costing 50 or hundreds of pounds

[@timsbird1971]

You need to follow the flowchart on the document. The first step is does it have a point. The second is: is the blade over 8 inches. Answer no to either of those then it’s fine.

[@danb2529]

You are correct, a google image search shows this is a Anglo Arms Apache Hunting Survival Knife, Total Length: 10.5″ (270mm)* Blade Length: 6″ (150mm)* Handle Length: 4.5″ (120mm)

[@WessexBladesHandMadeKnives]

@@danb2529 a Google image search.. sounds clever.. thanks for that... so it seems far too difficult for anyone in the Home Office to verify their work as quickly and efficiently as you just did... thanks 😊 🙏

[@LairdDavidson]

Just looked it up myself and you are correct. It's pretty cheap too at just under £20 in 440 steel with a full tang blade. Looks like a piece of junk. Anglo Arms are apparently a UK company making a variety of inexpensive blades, axes and crossbows, all made in China I'd wager. From the looks of many of their items they might not be viewed favourably by the government. Most of their products are tat that might appeal to a certain demographic. To be fair a few items don't look too bad either.

[@photoplanet]

It's good that they've applied the arbitrary 8 inch criteria to the blade... Otherwise, with the plain edge, serrated edge and holes in the blade - They'd be outlawing cheese knives !!

[@Daniel_D_King]

I'm tempted to get 100 knife blanks lasered out of 2mm mild at work, and duct tape the handles up. Easy 1000 quid.

[@MRWKFClark]

Just keep it to one pointy point and no more than one hole. Serrations are ok too if it’s 2” by the handle. But not anywhere else. But also an entirely serrated knife is ok. Sharpen both edges…totally fine. But for gods sake don’t put a 2nd hole in it!

[@Daniel_D_King]

@MRWKFClark the point is to make them fall in to the scary knife category so I can make bank

[@NobbyClark-g3y]

I have two mini machete type knives we use for wood chopping, digging, hammering as well as stripping branches and kindling, the blades are 7". These used to go with us when camping or going out into the wilds/countryside/moors and forests. Are these illegal ffs?

[@dongkhamet1351]

You are dealing with exactly the class of people in the world who most desperately need to have the nature of their own employment explained to them. The nature of reality also has likely passed them by more than the usual but that isn't our primary responsibility.

[@alanmullock381]

Nice rant Scott! Couldn't tell a Bowie from a behind🤣😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@stevehunt3078]

Thanks for your input. But what about the good old 15in Ghurka kuri one cutting edge and one point. How does one stand with that in your home?

[@WessexBladesHandMadeKnives]

😅 hopefully it would stand on the mantelpiece

[@anthonyhardwick1826]

Thanks for your video. How does the law stand on custom Made hi end knifes hand made Bowie knife with 13in blade antique knifes and swords. Most police officers would just remove all your collection I don't think they would know what is illegal.

[@WessexBladesHandMadeKnives]

high value with large proportion of maker involvement time should be fine, but yes, they will probably look at it and put it in the lock up in plastic evidence tubes. sad I know but hopefully in time they'll LEARN!!!

[@baldieman64]

I have several machetes/parangs, and had to go check the legislation, because the UK papers were so damned inaccurate. They are all fine. The only thing that was affected was my choice of a cleaver for my kitchen. My first choice was thick, but had three holes in the blade. I had to find a slightly thinner cleaver, that had a single hanging hole. There are a whole range of traditional martial arts weapons that are going to be impacted by this legislation. Nine ring swords, hook swords and even sai spring to mind.

[@timsyoutube6051]

Crazy when you think the machete is a favourite of these little cowards. Almost as if the issue osnt the knives themselves.

[@baldieman64]

@@timsyoutube6051 Typical knee-jerk governmental response. It's already illegal to carry a machete or any other large knife on the street, and I'm pretty sure that chopping people with one is frowned upon too. Meanwhile, we see the police telling people to just drop their weapon's off at the mosque, with no further questions asked.

[@peteduch2151]

I talked to some shady people they don,t care what anyone thinks

[@ronaldayres546]

Fight for your rights

[@garywilliamscornwall]

Iv a knife that is less than 8 inches, 4 or 5 I think. But it has a "serated" saw back thing on the top. It's handy enough for cutting wood. Do I need to grind it off? It's not sharp, it has a flat edge on the top of them. And I think its less than 2 inches long

[@bushcraft_in_the_north]

Sitting here cuddling my new Cold Steel Natchez Bowie in cpm3v steel, 113/4" blade over 17" with the handle. And my new SanMai Trailmaster and the new WTG Bowie in k329 steel. It must suck living in GB. I can use and wear knives and guns where i live in Norway. So i see the Government dont want people to have bad knives i guess, cant hardly kill anything with those Zombie blades weak,dull and bad constructed does not kake them more deadly just the the other way round.

[@hill_skills]

Re the 10 inch knife. They are demonstrating the style of the knife.

[@necrogressive466]

The problem isn't with the inanimate object(knife, gun, etc). The problem is with person holding said inanimate object.

[@robmochdre]

Intentionally ambiguous I would suggest

[@zednotzee7]

All I can say, is... They should have gone to Spec Savers..... You can tell just by looking at that thing that it doesn't have a 10.5" blade.

[@ashab1]

So basically they want criminals to carry better quality knives?

[@cnursery]

If it became "fashionable" to go around "carrying" a length of 4 by 2 as a weapon, you would need a permit to buy a length of carcassing from B&Q. The issue is the people who carry / use these knives. But the powers that be have now let it all go so far they can do nothing about it. Hence this stupid legislation.

[@johnmutton799]

It is because those fantasy knives are very cheap to buy. They are not going to spend 200 quid or more on a good knife! What about all the big kitchen knives that are used in nearly all stabbing!

[@EmporerJoeThe1st]

I can see us in the near future, having to have a license for cooking knives, provided we can prove we can keep them secure, much like an FAC certificate.

[@darnstewart]

You do realise you're expecting sensible laws from am incompetent government and civil service.

[@xfilion]

If you painted a brick with blood splatter. Hollowed out its centre. Would this be more dangerous than an ordinary brick if thrown at someone? Apply the same logic and we would ban bricks.

[@bermudarailway]

Most attacks are done with kitchen knives, should we ban food ?

[@WessexBladesHandMadeKnives]

Probably, along with chopsticks...

[@hill_skills]

If it's less than an 8 inch blade it can have any of the banned features, over 8 inches, it can't have any of the the banned features. Go and rear the legislation again. So if you have a First Blood knife, you need to grind off the tip till it's under 8 inches. OR grind off the serrations. Good luck with that.

[@WessexBladesHandMadeKnives]

oohh, a nice square ended Rambo knife, it may start a trend in chop shop customs?

[@hill_skills]

@@WessexBladesHandMadeKnives put a nice tanto on it 🤣

[@ralfbear]

They must be right! They "run" the country! Or maybe there should be an i somewhere between the inverted commas... 🤔🤷🏼‍♂️

[@WessexBladesHandMadeKnives]

Indeed, and they hopefully never see potential in coil springs...

[@WessexBladesHandMadeKnives]

it's our little secret....hahahahaha

[@ralfbear]

🤣😆😂

[@inregionecaecorum]

Put it this way, the site is neither written by nor intended to appeal to intelligent people, if you bought one of those things in the first place you have a screw loose.

[@misolgit69]

a sharp tip...well don't they all ? do I have to bury my Cold Steel machete(s) ? pity they're so much fun

[@WessexBladesHandMadeKnives]

@@misolgit69 the cold steel range are functioning tools,

[@misolgit69]

@WessexBladesHandMadeKnives Thanks I will have to remember that it would be a little crazy to think I'm a gang member unless there's a septegenarian squad shuffling around

[@Mylogcabin]

The illustration and probably the wording is deliberately wrong, so you can't contest the facts in a legal discussion. The illustration or dimensions are made vague or slightly confusing then the law or police could legally deem what is right or wrong. If it was made simple and easy to understand, then you could put up a legal challenge. That is one thing the police or authorities dont want. 11:37

[@Snarlacc]

What's with the focus on holes? EDIT: No, really, what is their explanation for this? I mean, more holes only makes a blade weaker over all - Is it really just "But it makes it look so evil!"???

[@WessexBladesHandMadeKnives]

scary looking I think?

[@hill_skills]

How can you take your knife to the Police station without carrying it in public and therefore commit an offence? Does that count as reasonable reason?

[@WessexBladesHandMadeKnives]

it should do, or else it would be an entrapment kind of deal, lure you in and collar you...

[@Paul-hl4cj]

i had a replica wall orniment michonne walking dead katana for 10 years then sudenly was arested for having an ilegal wepon yet it was bought legaly so how long now till your car is taken because its not electric or your pc or tv are sudenly taken because some one in parlement says there ilegal no one pays you for these things

[@leeandmandybattersby5958]

So what about single edged machetes and swords

[@WessexBladesHandMadeKnives]

@@leeandmandybattersby5958 they are single edged machetes , a zombie knife has additional features, a sword is recognised as a sword if historical or hand made, the cheap crap over 8" with all the zombie knife features are the issue

[@steveclark..]

​@@WessexBladesHandMadeKnivesWhat about the machete that has teeth on the spine? Gerber make one for example, I think that it's more saw than serrations but where do they draw that line? Will be interesting to see what the likes of Hennie Haynes will stop selling,...if you can still buy it on their website, it should still be legal??

[@WessexBladesHandMadeKnives]

@@steveclark.. for arguments sake all those I've ground them down, the whole lot of them will not differentiate between saw backs or serrations and view them all as serrations, so my gerber gator and US Army machete and more all ground away...I have to be very careful being on the internet etc so should the blues and twos come knocking they'll be wasting their time...

[@steveclark..]

@@WessexBladesHandMadeKnives Gator, that's the one I were thinking of,... shame that you've had to do that because even Gerber called them saw teeth if I remember correctly. I'm guessing that it would need a court case and a fair judge to clear this up for good.

[@WessexBladesHandMadeKnives]

@@steveclark.. I think so, reading the blurb, it looks like you get charged and then you would have to in front of a judge provide the defence/ excuse, seeing the recent experiences this summer that's the last thing I need, I took the hit and ruined what I thought a visit would deem problematic...hmmm, freedoms eh?

[@RobertHicks007]

lol their banning y'alls Mall Ninja gear . God bless America

[@aebirkbeck2693]

Of course nobody knows what a zombie knife is because there is no such thing as a zombie

[@WessexBladesHandMadeKnives]

indeed, the whole " zombie killing" lime green blade writing was a joke to remove anyway, you can't kill what does not exist etc...but hey ho

[@darcyleepearson4416]

The law makers are not too bright! ..that's as respectable as I can be, they can't have my 18 inch marbles machete, it's a good tool and iv done lots of work with it, ,same with my terava scrama , this country really has gone to poo! ❤

[@hedgerowpete]

well meaning video but far to much rant and waffle for it to make sense

[@warlockboyburns]

you must be making a bomb at the moment

[@WessexBladesHandMadeKnives]

@@warlockboyburns what, me and electrics? Red wire ...no blue wir💥

[@ETB9090]

Getting rid of these knives will achieve very little if anything, but yeh, fantasy cheap shit knives are no good to anyone Id get rid of them because they're crap as collectors, bushcrafters etc arnt interested in them, but this is a smoke and mirrors stunt, it's not the type of knife that is the problem it's the culture that's the problem simple as that, you can do as much damage with any ordinary kitchen knife, large or small, who comes up with these silly suggestions to appease the gullible, obviously they don't live amongst or have any real world experience of these communities, and who will suffer, again it's the law abiding knife enthusiasts etc, thats who, so there's my hopes of buying a Gerber BMF I had lined up dashed, I also have samurai swords (ornamental) and an 11" Lofty Wiseman that I've had for over 25 yrs, what a fuckin pointless appeasement exercise, I despair.