Lucky bloke to be working alongside such a perfectionist 👍. Would love to work along side you for a month or so. ✌️. Keep up the great work Robin 👍
@brianpiney32312 жыл бұрын
Good to see someone who takes pride in their work!
@IAN1000IAN3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see someone with pride in his work , which I find is lacking nowadays .
@IAN1000IAN3 жыл бұрын
@Stephen Strange with gash workmanship , just doing the job quick to make a few quid then on to the next... hardly any proper apprentiships being served.
@garethjones80473 жыл бұрын
Great video, just about to re clad my front porch with new fascia and soffit. I'm a Hgv mechanic, not a builder, but with the help of your video i should be able to do it fine. I have found the hardest part researching and identifying materials needed, the terminology. Thanks
@ukconstruction3 жыл бұрын
Good luck! and thanks for watching Gareth
@GrahamS674 жыл бұрын
There is absolutely nothing wrong with this installation for a new build, not so practical for a replacement. It's kind of how I expect a chippy to do it, however plastic isn't quite the same as wood, particularly it is very flexible and will show up the slightest deviation. In my experience I've never come across rafter ends that are level or straight enough to give a perfect look. What I recommend is a square packer made from pvc fascia attached to every rafter end. You fix to the extreme rafters first then run two string lines one on the bottom front corner and one either higher up on the front edge or on the underside. This ensures that the fascia and soffit are at a perfect right angle and also dead straight. To level the fascia with a spirit level after the soffit is fixed I think is a bit too late, not really accurate enough but also if the soffit isn't level it won't locate in the groove at the back of the fascia board and you may have a gap between soffit and lip which looks unsightly particularly when looking out from inside the house. Another minor thing to go to the effort of fixing a ply soffit first just for the pin spacing seems unnecessary particularly as if you use a cladding pin with a flat head instead of a polytop on the from edge it is concealed by the lip of the fascia and looks a lot neater than two rows of pins. Generally the soffit sits on top of a course of bricks so can be wedged down with a packer so no pins are visible at all. If it does need a fixing then extend the square Packers back far enough to receive a pin. I'm not trying to be critical of what is an acceptable job just some tips from over 20 years of installing PVCu fascias.😀
@azarulahmed7893 жыл бұрын
This comment has completely put off any would-be DIY-ers like me
@justbreakingballs Жыл бұрын
@@azarulahmed789 why?
@justbreakingballs Жыл бұрын
Is it acceptable to use some form of adhesive to fix facia boards, I've fitted a ply facia with plans to fit 9mm capping board so I can fix gutters, poly tops etc where I please. I was thinking about using an adhesive with just a few concealed poly pins to hold it on. I've never seen it done but would give a very neat look. Any opinions?
@GrahamS67 Жыл бұрын
@@justbreakingballs It may well hold but over time I would be concerned that the glue would break down or if the integrity of the ply deteriorated with weather the glue would not be fixed to a secure surface. If you are pinning to ply I would still recommend pinning where the rafter ends are as pinning elsewhere would be bouncy and difficult to nail. If you've already fixed ply to the rafter ends you should be fine just double check that it's nice and straight and level.
@justbreakingballs Жыл бұрын
@@GrahamS67 cheers I'll see what I come up with, the ply is a bit in and out, I put up a string and hand cut the timbers but didn't get it perfect. I'll think up something.
@MarcusT864 жыл бұрын
It's a pleasure watching a master at work.
@Transformityourself Жыл бұрын
As per usual another classic RC video I’ll be using to complete the soffits on my bungalow to house project. Amazing work pal 🎉
@ukconstruction Жыл бұрын
Thats great!!
@matgurd4 жыл бұрын
If you use a starter/ J trim on the soffit you don’t need to pin it on, seamless and no fixings on show
@T.E.P.4 жыл бұрын
Superb video Robin thank you for them all and keeping your channel alive
@ukconstruction4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@derekrobinson2248 ай бұрын
Just love seeing a craftsman at work
@davetaylor47414 жыл бұрын
Plastic fascias I remember those. Just coming in about the time I left 22 years ago. Fascia in Oz is one of three things. Pine board, hardwood board or on a lot of new houses tin. Never seen plastic here yet. But then where I live 75% or more of the roofs are tin. My place is tin roof fascia, gutters the lot. Very neat job as usual and your weather looks nice too. Dreaded summer coming here. Working in temps way over 40C sucks.
@MrJFoster19844 жыл бұрын
Which state are you in mate?
@davetaylor47414 жыл бұрын
Qld
@northeastcorals4 жыл бұрын
Wood or some kind of metal look so much better, I hate the look of the UK plastic covered streets & can't wait to rip all the stuff off my house. Not saying Robin isn't doing a great job as usual, I just don't like plastic.
@MrJFoster19844 жыл бұрын
@@davetaylor4741 You can guess with my user name 👍
@Mr-T1234 жыл бұрын
If I knew I was buying a house built by you Robin and the estate agent suddenly turned around and told me I've got to pay 10% more all of a sudden my response would simply be... OK! 😂
@Toyotaamazon80series4 жыл бұрын
I always use a 12mm plywood sub soffit and a 12mm plywood sub fascia. Soffit vents are key as well.
@thetessellater91634 жыл бұрын
He did mention they'd use over fascia vents
@squintclinic4 жыл бұрын
Worth mentioning fascia height - it’s not random. If using concrete tile the top edge of fascia board is usually 25mm higher than top of batten. Basically one tile height. Change according to tile type.
@nathanharris2924 жыл бұрын
Hi Daniel that is the exact question I was going to ask as I am going to be doing the facia and soffit on my extension soon. Does it alter the height of the roof pitch is different? I am using concrete tiles so would I bring it up 50mm if the batten is 25mm? Cheers
@squintclinic4 жыл бұрын
Nathan Harris yep, that’s right. If you look at the verge (sloping edge) you’ll see that the bottom of each tile sits on the top of the next. Your aim is to replicate that height with the top of the fascia, so maintaining the same pitch all the way from the top of the roof to the eaves. That’s why you’d change the fascia height depending on what type of tile you’re using. 👍
@nathanharris2924 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply. Does the bottom tile not require a small kick? Cheers 👍🏻
@squintclinic4 жыл бұрын
Nathan Harris you’re kicking it up with the fascia. That’s the point of having it higher than the batten. Some situations may call for a double batten or some other solution and some roofers may prefer one method over another. It’s the same result.
@danthechippie44394 жыл бұрын
@@squintclinic perfect explanation
@markmarlow4 жыл бұрын
I do that so different to you. I put a timber on the rafter ends and use headless pins right at the front of the soffit and put the soffit on top of the bricks so I can’t see any nails or if it goes up to brick il fix a batten and nail to that. With a timber on the rafter ends it rides the undulation better to fix the fascia
@d2cdl4 жыл бұрын
That's exactly the way I also do. As you say, pin the outer edge of soffit behind fascia lip and inner edge on top of the brickwork with batten over that to hold it down. The other benefit of this method is its much easier to do it on your own, as once the soffit is fitted, you just hold the fascia against your timber backing and lift it upwards to nail it. I cant criticize Robins method though. He makes a fine job and is a credit to his trade.
@markmarlow4 жыл бұрын
Man Stuff oh yes he’s forgot more than most people know
@123b3n1234 жыл бұрын
When you say timber on the rafter ends do you mean a timber fascia under the upvc one? Or do you mean battens going down vertically at the front end of each rafter and then pin soffit into those. Cheers
@markmarlow4 жыл бұрын
Brotato id use 5x2 or something that’s not taller than the fascia and nail it on in long lengths to support the rafter ends and fascia
@rossmale87154 жыл бұрын
Prefer to sit the soffit onto the brickwork then fix the soffit with screws behind the fascia. Just weigh the soffit down with 4"x 1" or tile batten. Everything else pretty much the same 🙂
@Taterviewer763 жыл бұрын
Followed all your tips Robin and I now have perfect soffit & fascias, cheers 👍🏻👍🏻
@NikNiks13 жыл бұрын
Kicking myself not to have thought about pre-nailing the boards before offering up. DUH! For the fascia - I prefer fixing on to a timber board or plywood sub base instead of the rafter ends. I have read (but not seen) that plastic fascia even at 16mm can distort over time when supporting the weight of tiles. Likely a timber base for the fascia can make things a bit more easy when fixing gutter brackets.
@ianbutler19837 ай бұрын
He lays out the nails with a square. I thought I was the only person who did that. Excellent work, thanks.
@ukconstruction7 ай бұрын
No Ian you know the score!! Thanks for the comment!!
@scubasteves3214 Жыл бұрын
Obviously you know what you’re doing and are a brilliant carpenter but I’ve always found setting your plumb cuts back 2 inches and fixing a 6x2 (or whatever suits) all the way along the bottom of your rafters helps a great deal. Especially for keeping your nail positions neat
@ratkinson-uk4 жыл бұрын
Interesting video Robin. Any chance you can do a quick follow up showing how you worked how what height to cut the facia at, allowing for the ridge vent, eaves savers, and tiles. Cheers.
@johngreen86933 жыл бұрын
Useful video, I like the attention to detail - using the additional joint strip to make it look uniform.
@brenthanson13684 жыл бұрын
Lovely to see someone taking pride in there work 👍
@richardwaller9922 Жыл бұрын
Lovely workmanship and really useful tips. Thanks.
@ukconstruction Жыл бұрын
Your welcome Richard
@garagefaff4 жыл бұрын
Don’t know if it’s obvious but you didn’t mention not to send the nails all the way. One less tap than is needed, snug but not home 👍 as the plastic can distort (pan in) if over driven and the coloured facias can bruise 👍
@MrJFoster19844 жыл бұрын
Plus the poly head is likely to come off the nails if they are over driven
@ABW777 Жыл бұрын
I use screws with cap covers
@addierachramsey62183 жыл бұрын
I always tack my polytops in the fascia first before getting it into position, You'd be surprised how many people actually hold the fascia up and then start pinning it... If there are any Cowboys tuning in, Don't worry if you cut the soffit a bit small the fascia lip will cover it!! 😉. Nice job shaggy tidy
@TeeTee-zm2re10 ай бұрын
Shaggy tidy?
@RobNorman084 жыл бұрын
I do fascia and soffits on our jobs in a similar way, however i also put a ply facia on first then use capping fascia rather than maxi boards, you can then use the smaller soffit pins rather than the big ol fascia poly pins, i think this looks better, also with the soffit board use a single pin with a head near the building, on the front edge pull the pin head off and nail close to the edge, the overlap from the capping facia will cover the pin, leaves a much neater job. as always loving the videos, keep up the great work.
@bluevanmani4 жыл бұрын
Yep totally agree hate seeing the pin heads and like you put up a timber sub fascia first so unsquare joist ends don’t bend fascia
@RobNorman084 жыл бұрын
@@bluevanmani A tip if your installing without timber sub facia and the plumb cuts on the rafters aren't square, use a little off cut of DPM rolled up like a tube, tuck it behind the facia before pinning it, it takes out the deviations. An old chippie in his 70's showed me that one..all the best.
@kfcmalaysia55804 жыл бұрын
It's always interesting to see how construction are done in different parts of the world. Securing fascia boards are no easy tasks and safety is of utmost importance. Well done, Robin.
@davee84624 жыл бұрын
Another great video Robin! It would be good to see how you do your boxed ends and work out at what hight it should be to allow for tiles ect... thanks for all the useful tips, You are doing a real service by sharing your knowledge, especially for us younger aspiring carpenters! Superb work
@rareasfunk4 жыл бұрын
Another tip you didn't mention, just glue one side of the cover strip with the mitre fix otherwise it will crack in 6 months, plastic moves alot in the heat and cold..
@MrFullfatt4 жыл бұрын
Agreed 100%. Or you can pin one side because you already had nails in facia so two pins don't matter much. And peel plastic first before installing because it is pig to peeled over nails.
@callumlucas44444 жыл бұрын
@@MrFullfatt peel tape to check for marks too don’t wanna have to take it down when you see a dent
@frankief71114 жыл бұрын
Mine were glued with silicone, might not be as good a glue, but it's flexible right?
@GrahamS674 жыл бұрын
@@frankief7111 I have been a fascia installer for over 20 years glue or silicon works as someone else pointed out if using glue only on one side. I find silicon over all more reliable just make sure dry and clean. A fine smear on both services so you don't get it oozing out. Both surfaces give a suction grab so that it doesn't slide down.
@michaelgibson47053 жыл бұрын
Good tip someone glued both sides on my facia’s.resulting in six cracked covering strips
@diddywright61654 жыл бұрын
Another tip, make sure the face of your hammer is clean when using polytops
@GARRY37544 жыл бұрын
Sorry I thought that gauge was what fascia was. You made me think though so that’s good. I like the job safety of scaffolding. And convenience. Thanks. Been working on old houses in Detroit Mich. a adventure in renovation!
@samposton91014 жыл бұрын
Loving the regular uploads 👍🏻 nice work Robin
@dg17863 жыл бұрын
Word of advise to any1 trying this out. Take the plastic protection film of first. Otherwise you might come across a nasty pigmentation in the board or dents or scratches etc. After you pined it. The only way to get it off is to break it. And good luck getting a new one from the supplier after that.
@slimjimpotter80444 жыл бұрын
I like the nail layout, its a nice attention to detail.
@Simonsimps4 жыл бұрын
Surprised you didn't mention that tip and the reason you didn't send the nails in all the way in before you removed the protective film. Nightmare to get it off if you do. Brilliant video. Cheers.
@avtarsinghhoonjan66603 жыл бұрын
Brilliant to see someone doing proper way 👏 👌
@parkymanutd4 жыл бұрын
I like to pre drill the fascia joining and corners pieces and fix neatly will soffit pins also gives a nice look and fixes them nice and secure
@ukconstruction4 жыл бұрын
thats a belt and braces approach, like it!!!!
@parkymanutd4 жыл бұрын
@@ukconstruction I think it gives it a lovely look aswell I will tag you on my Instagram post
@TeeTee-zm2re10 ай бұрын
Very tidy job. You're a perfectionist.
@ukconstruction10 ай бұрын
I try!! Cheers
@TeeTee-zm2re10 ай бұрын
@@ukconstruction and succeed. Id hire you but couldn't afford you lol
@MrJFoster19844 жыл бұрын
Nice one Robin. Exactly how I used to install them except I would carefully nail through the cover strip and fascia in one go after gluing the strip on. Cheers
@jamiehalpin99214 жыл бұрын
Ply on the joist ends too? Makes for an easier fit.
@jjamo54 жыл бұрын
The Sofit method is Genius many thanks love that!
@Pes6011 ай бұрын
Always better to nail down from one side and work your way along or you can get gaps/ripples where it is not flat.
@mrb18644 жыл бұрын
good tips on speed square and fascia off-cut for fixing markings ... that the sort of thing i overlook, quick and accurate ...
@BuildWithAE4 жыл бұрын
Cracking tips and tricks nice one Robin all the best Tony 👍
@tobybeswick364 жыл бұрын
i usually pull the heads off the pins and get the fixings behind where the guttering brackets are going to sit, screw guttering on with screws into joists/ply backer and it's solid. Also superglue and sticks like sh*t for them joining strips and they don't go anywhere. Liked the tip of just cutting the join in the other side of the facia to make it symmetrical, I've wasted so much facia getting the join dead in the center
@gregdyar64514 жыл бұрын
Thanks Robin every days a school day
@nialloconnell58954 жыл бұрын
Morning Robin.......30k people late for work !! What's your excuse ? oh Robin uploaded a video !!
@deanwilliams68594 жыл бұрын
I'm also suffering the same daily routine of using this excuse.😅
@ukconstruction4 жыл бұрын
That made me chuckle Niall, nice one mate
@quintenpuckett33994 жыл бұрын
@@ukconstruction What's the oz of the estwing framing hammer Sir
@tomreviews96684 жыл бұрын
Robin- as an extension to this video, can you please do a demo on how to construct PVC "box ends". Great stuff, cheers.
@Grhrthtutututuuttjjttjtjjt4 жыл бұрын
Please do!!
@stillloading27023 жыл бұрын
I’m constantly repairing peoples soffits and facia where facia corners or joiners have been glued with miter fast or miter mate etc. It doesn’t allow for any expansion or contraction and breaks away over time, If your going to glue it use a polomer based glue if not just pin on one side that then allows for any expansion etc. Mitre mate is just super glue it was not designed to deal with the changing of humidity and temperatures nor the expansion or contraction that timber or upvc will have.
@Ianf1x4 жыл бұрын
Great job . I haven't fitted much plastic . But when I have fitted fascia I nail every other rafter and gutter clips go on the rest so as to get a Good fixing
@brenthanson13684 жыл бұрын
Lovely to someone taking pride in there work 👍
@johnyearsley79703 жыл бұрын
You are brilliant to watch. Thank you Scottish John.
@ukconstruction3 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly Scottish John!!
@phillipjenkins27094 жыл бұрын
Quick tip in cold weather. Heat the end of poly pins so they ease through the fascia/soffit
@aaronhelliadis33514 жыл бұрын
shut up
@oddities-whatnot4 жыл бұрын
Ok, thanks. Couldn't sleep without knowing that.
@jonners154 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the content Robin. Would love a tutorial on how you do fascias for box ends on gable roof if the opportunity ever comes up!
@dazshirley56904 жыл бұрын
Good idea with the square to space the pins so it all matchs
@andrewplatt4 жыл бұрын
Love your channel Robin 👍I do the same with nail spacing on rafter feet small offcut of fascia hooked on top of the fascia, shame you couldn't show us how you form your bootends (probably a cut gable with no barge boards on this one 👍) great work as always.
@AndrewFroude4 жыл бұрын
Perfect job as always. I love your attention to detail!
@philtucker12244 жыл бұрын
Great video, good guidance and instruction, live long and prosper buddy! 🖖 😊
@ukconstruction4 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly
@markmarlow4 жыл бұрын
Nice video to make me late for work 😂
@markellison959028 күн бұрын
Hi Robin how do you work out the correct distance above the rafters ???
@iangregoryhome Жыл бұрын
I think new home builders need to watch this 😂
@stef219819 күн бұрын
A quick question or two, you have ply on the underside, guessing just WBP is fine? Who no ply on the fascia side?
@ryanm43423 жыл бұрын
Hi there, I'm fitting wooden fascia onto a flat roof joists and trimmers before felting. What fixings are good to use? I assume you want to avoid water getting through fixings and into joists?
@ukconstruction3 жыл бұрын
Try a decent corrosion proof fixing it can be a nail or screw and it wants to be over 60mm ideally, any facia needs to be treated or properly painted if exposed to the weather
@6string3273 жыл бұрын
We use paper thin metal facia cover in Canada lol. It goes over the wood facia board. So it's basically a two step process.
@BahianoReno4 жыл бұрын
Great job my friend, very informative, thank you very much for sharing, keep safe
@chippyminton87112 жыл бұрын
Nice height scaffold Robin, lost track of the amount of times I've done a roof and the scaffold is about 6 inches below soffit height and all the inside poles are going through the soffit
@garyaustin72542 жыл бұрын
Cracking video pal really helpful 👍
@mikebryan544 Жыл бұрын
Cracking mate thank you some smashing tip there. Glad i watched
@ukconstruction Жыл бұрын
No problem 👍
@thinkFishcatchFish4 жыл бұрын
Love the way you work and present. I’ve learnt so much from your videos 👍
@ukconstruction4 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear that!
@ruheluddin93847 ай бұрын
Cover strip, can you use small polytop nails? I’ve not used mitre fast but used silicon etc in past and it’s fallen off!
@stonecoldjaneausten926 Жыл бұрын
Cheers Robin. Can you show us how you do it when the tiles are still in place. 😃
@MrKanga12314 жыл бұрын
I know there might be a risk of wrist fatigue but, have you tried using a larger hammer to get those stubborn nails home?
@TheCanadianBubba Жыл бұрын
Thank you 👍 That big Estwing has it pretty easy LOL !
@BillyMustang1014 жыл бұрын
Better to use a PU hammer on poly pins as well. Doesn't mark them like a steel one does.
@aerialrescuesolutions32774 жыл бұрын
Well done, lots of tips there. Thank you, Jim
@ukconstruction4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@quintenpuckett33994 жыл бұрын
What's the oz of the estwing framing hammer Sir
@leeshilling72514 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Robin, really helpful 👍 keep it up!
@tonymcfeisty24784 жыл бұрын
No Sub-Fascia?
@flyingjackcarpentry93944 жыл бұрын
wish swanson would do a metric speedsuare at 150-160mm. The 5mm incremental notches are ever so handy but the size of the thing means I end up using the imperial one for everyday use.
@lloydunett2063 жыл бұрын
What is the easiest way to determine whats size soffit board and facia board is required and how high the facia board needs to finish above the rafters.
@Harriscool69420_ROBLOX4 жыл бұрын
Any chance i could work for you voluntarily for a month so i could get some experience. Im amazed by your videos. How clearly you explain things.
@MrTomomahony2 жыл бұрын
nice work Robin ,why not cut the rafters back 50 mm. and add a 4x2 along the front of rafters to give more support and nailing options ?
@MrJohnnynapalm74 жыл бұрын
Really helpful top tips - thanks for sharing 👍
@tlangdon124 жыл бұрын
I find a blunt cross-cut saw is much better for plastic than a hacksaw. I keep my old saws for just this purpose.
@petersmrek76172 жыл бұрын
Hi Didn’t you just cover the ventilation for roof with that long board for soffits/facia??🤔
@ukconstruction2 жыл бұрын
We use an over facia vent
@shanewiltshire58694 жыл бұрын
Great content as always! I'm torn between leaving the protective film on the facia or taking it off prior to tacking it up. On previous installations I have sometimes found damage to the facia only after peeling the film off and its a pain in the arse when it's already been cut to size and tacked!!
@ironpirate84 жыл бұрын
Yes, although if that wall is being rendered later, I might have left the film on the soffit until after.
@martyncattermoul71802 жыл бұрын
I tend to partially secure the fascia leave the poly tops out by say 5mm then peel the tape off as you get a clean break around tops, then just tap the polys home. Pain in the arse trying to faff around In the winter
@andyb33314 жыл бұрын
Surprised you had your level out to check the Fascia was level Robin - Was the Chippy who cut the roof in a bit dodgy??!! 😆😜
@kendavies20162 жыл бұрын
What hammer you using there robin
@jordantruesdale72445 ай бұрын
How do you do pcv facia if it is going onto concrete?
@rodgermyles287110 ай бұрын
How do you work out how far the rafter should stich beyond the wall? Is there a formula?
@ukconstruction10 ай бұрын
Generally set by the window heads in some cases or a written dimension on a plan
@wellanbromnall71264 жыл бұрын
How high above the rafters do you leave the fascia? Is it the height of the baton?? Is there a set distance, (after installing the baton) - for the tiles to sit correctly when overlapping the height of the fascia?
@MrSmid8884 жыл бұрын
Who else reads the comments to get the tips and tricks off other guys in the trade? 😎 Kids have no wonder nowadays. Google tradesmen everywhere. 🙈✌🏻✌🏻
@garethmurt2 жыл бұрын
That was nicely explained but why didn’t you just use your speed square for the nails on the second part like you did on the first piece
@doncodman9133 жыл бұрын
Hi Robin . AAhh not banging nails in so you can peel without problem . Could see what you meant about the fascia being pulled down .please help .regards Don
@Senna-xi1gr Жыл бұрын
Quality & experience 👍🏆🇬🇧
@shaunhennessy6034 жыл бұрын
Why no ply behind the facia? Helps to have something solid to fix the gutter brackets to and space them evenly? Otherwise the gutter ends up being fixed to a 10mm bit of plastic facia?
@ukconstruction4 жыл бұрын
This fascia we use is 18mm thick and we have a screw that is designed to be used anywhere on the face, thanks for the comment
@shaunhennessy6034 жыл бұрын
@@ukconstruction Fair enough. What screws are they? Do you have a link?
@leemarriott82474 жыл бұрын
hi robin silly question but what make are your trousers im struggling to find good quality combats
@anthonyskilton86343 жыл бұрын
Robin, where did you get that large headed claw hammer please ? I'm struggling not to destroy some of the polyheads (diy). Thank you for your tips and videos in general.
@philmillard46054 жыл бұрын
Hi Robin, I use a dws780, I get deflection in cuts, especially when doing a high bevel cut on a piece of skirting, even with a new blade(Freud, 100 teeth). Is that something you experience with your DeWalt?