How to Batten a wall the easy way

[@michaelmay9935]

My first thought also was I’d just dot and dab the brickwork section but got to admit that’s a much nicer job 👍🏻

[@Transformityourself]

Robin, between you and a select few KZbinrs you’ve taught me to build 2 entire additional storeys onto my bungalow. Every video you do is used to help me. I had no experience prior to this and I’m not fully watertight and battening out walls !!! Thank you

[@tw8633]

And I bet you the quality in your work beats many out there doing it for a living

[@Transformityourself]

@@tw8633 haha your right. That’s what’s made me realise I couldn’t do it for a living ! The balance between care and time taken must be almost impossible to achieve. One has to give over the other ? Thanks though mate I’ll take that as a compliment!

[@jamestonks3042]

I work on sites mate the standard of work is terrible ​@@tw8633

[@stillloading2702]

Love what robin does but that wall could off been dot and dabded/ dry lined within 15 min labour and at less cost. Just needs a bit of plasterboard adhesive mixed up board cut to size etc etc etc. for the end consumer ie your client doing it robins way is going to be more labour intensive and not as cost effective . I know he says why it’s not dot and dabbed but its only a meter section of wall 🤦🏻‍♂️ dot and dab also wouldn’t lose as much of the internal floor space.

[@sb4642]

@@stillloading2702 yes but it’s not for and dab because there’s a kitchen going against that wall so it’s need to be strong and straight. Then you can also screw OSB to make the wall solid for fixings :)

[@nikthefix8918]

That was a real pleasure to watch. How nice to have so much space to work in too.

[@zedman442]

Lovely exactly how I do it. Also with the 25mm battens you can get a cheeky 25mm PIR insulation in between the batten if you want if it’s an external wall. 😊

[@fklwiseman]

I’m ex-military, have done a city and guilds carpentry course. These videos are invaluable! Kind of like a KZbin apprenticeship.

[@ukconstruction]

Hi Fraser, glad you like the videos mate and thank you for your service

[@Alexcustominstall]

lol. Just about to tackle an identical situation in own home, this couldn’t have came at a better time. Now I’ll keep this to myself and my mates will think I’m a genius 😊 Thanks Robin, another Glaswegian here

[@philipjones9297]

You are such a gentleman sharing your knowledge with us, I just wish you could have put this video out a couple of years ago 😂 I really struggled to get my wall and ceiling straight level and plumb by one batten at a time 🤬 brilliant video 👍

[@chrisgardner2597]

The time absolutely flies by watching this type of content! I picked up so much from this vid - thank you!

[@ukconstruction]

Glad it was helpful!

[@grotekleum]

Thoroughly enjoyed watching that, and filed away those processes for later use. Thanks for sharing.

[@alansutton2980]

It's such a pleasure watching a real professional at work. The attention to detail in order to create a perfect job is heart-warming. Thank you for sharing your knowledge in such a clear, well paced and detailed manner.

[@PaulChamberlain-of3dm]

Another great video. I bet a lot more youngsters would get into the trade if this was toured in schools in such a clear easy to understand manner.Really appreciate the time put into making these. Thanks Robin

[@wahreomcwario3154]

Good video and interesting technique. I would’ve dot and dabbed the brick wall and made sure the PB extended well over to the stud wall so I’d install a couple of sheets landscape to avoid cracks appearing.

[@paultaylor319]

Would never have thought of doing it that way. Great job man.

[@spanthefestaman]

If I was going to do a carpentry apprenticeship it would have to be with you because your processes are simple your quality excellent and your knowledge is 100%. Keep up the great work

[@brucefox6580]

Thanks for the detailed explanation Robin. I wish you built my house. 👍

[@gregdyar6451]

Thanks, Robin, for months of milling about over what to do in my own house. I totally overlooked this idea. Legend, thanks again.

[@Oggmiestergeneral]

I’ve packed out plenty of batten walls, never done it this way… but will now - cheers Robin

[@AndrewLumsden]

👍👌👏 The only trouble with working off the floor is that, wherever you go, they always put the floor so low down! 🙄😖🤣

[@dougsaunders8109]

Not when you are Robin’s height he is half way there….. 😅 I am more Ed’s height and I thought that is along way away…..

[@BrucePierson]

Interesting video, along with the longest spirit level I've ever seen. Looks like you install the plasterboard vertically over there. Here in Australia, we usually install it horizontally.

[@Tom-hl7wc]

I did this for weeks and weeks many years ago. It almost made me change careers.

[@neiladdison4457]

I'm very much a novice at this stuff but have bought a Fixer-Upper and have got to learn! This channel might be just what I need! Thank you. I really enjoyed watching this☺️

[@ukconstruction]

Welcome aboard!

[@boriss.861]

Yes, ear defenders take it from one who has Tinnitus 24 / 7 just to re-iterate it never goes from industrial noise over several years. Just a constant F# at a very high pitch.

[@shaungahan6337]

Thank you kind sir for sharing your skills

[@ukconstruction]

Your welcome Shaun

[@MrBigMalT]

It’s an absolute joy watching a pro like you at work Robin 👍👍

[@andrewplatt]

Great video Robin, makes so much sense and simplifies the process of trying to pack individual battens, just done something similar 👍

[@ewanbruce7026]

Great to see this - it all seems so obvious when you explain it! Thanks for sharing all those tips. I'm framing a wall before putting up plasterboard, so really helpful 😁

[@ukconstruction]

Glad it was helpful!

[@jim99ful]

Robbin you just keep getting better, your like the UK equivalent to the US 'Essential Carpenter' 🙂

[@ukconstruction]

That is such a nice compliment!! He's a legend!!

[@jimosullivan1389]

Love watching RD working and thinking a head to make life simpler. Lots of little tips as well.

[@driftinblues]

Awesome work at speed! Wish I could find a carpenter like you who sees the bigger picture and does structural solutions and doesn’t just want to make a fast buck with mdf cupboards

[@leehotspur9679]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge Robin Many people give up on DIY after getting frustrated when things do not work out Your procedure's Make it easier for people to learn,Check , Plumb and square as i was taught Well done Regards from NZ

[@seancampbelton3154]

Had to pause the video just to say thanks for being an awesome KZbinr! Well explained and I see myself being as skilled as you one day!

[@ukconstruction]

I appreciate that!

[@jacobheitmann6795]

The only person I trust who uses screws for framing

[@Matt_Aquila]

Thank you Robin, I'm about to build a soundproof wall in my home studio and needed this exact information. You've presented it in a clear and easy to follow way. Can't wait to get started now, cheers!

[@ukconstruction]

Your welcome Matt!!

[@davidperry2306]

Very good Robin, I would say when I first started the only thing available was a Rawl Drill that was hammered into the brick then carve the plug from a piece of wood with a knife hahaha So yes this is much easier. One other point, was the screw that you almost caught you head on at 31:16 left there as a cup holder of coat hook haha. Always good to watch your vids. My wife said, "I wonder where Ed is" and you said, "here's Ed" as though you heard hahaha

[@allahdittababu4802]

Honestly this may look simple but the levelling is so awkward the way you've done it is awesome , Thankyou for sharing your knowledge it's priceless

[@ukconstruction]

My pleasure 😊

[@munawarhussain5730]

Robin people like you are blessings. Definitely made my job easy. Great work and many thanks for such videos.

[@ukconstruction]

Your welcome mate

[@MrFlyby34]

Simply lovely how you share your skills with us, very helpful Robin. Cheers, Bert.

[@neilcrookphotos]

Great video content as always. Never thought about drilling from one side for a pilot, then screw from the other side to make sure it lines up right. Awesome tip there. Thanks 😊

[@TheNomadicTrader]

Such a nice result, well done Robin

[@jamesrogers4761]

Thanks Rob. I need to board the inside of my outbuilding and this will be ideal! Just need to learn about what membrane and insulation to use now!

[@sahidsim]

Thank I was looking for a video like this. This is full of knowledge.

[@ukconstruction]

Glad it was helpful!

[@stuartjones2242]

Hi Robin , another simple video to follow👍👍😃😃, I find those brick/concrete screws a pain they damage the brick or wall to easy, I use framing Rawl plug and screw all in one , just a masonry bit for hole into wall, hit the Rawl plug into wall with hammer no messing around with different drill bits to fix ,what ever size your fixing is the size drill bit, and just unscrew with a Pozi driver .

[@christophermoore5405]

Brilliant video. Feel confident now to get my project underway. Thank so much for sharing

[@timbolton2241]

Quick tip I only buy packer sizes 1mm 2mm 5mm and 10mm as they can make up all the widths needed. Cheers keep up the good work .

[@TGS333]

Great video Robin, I hope to build my own house soon so will be checking out more videos!!! 🙂

[@awt]

I used this technique today, with a slight twist. I am battening a bathroom wall (DIY), but there isn't enough floor space to build on the floor like this - so I cut all the pieces first and assembled it up against the wall, without attaching to the wall. Then, with the perimeter assembled, I packed, drilled and screwed to the wall. I reasoned that the essential benefit of this technique is really that the assembled frame holds all the pieces in the right place, like a load of extra hands, making it dead easy to get the fixings in without having to hold the battens yourself. It was really easy, and perfectly flat at the end!

[@ukconstruction]

Well done Andy!! You smashed it today!! I feel super happy when I get a message like yours, you mention the fact that you are a Diy'er but.. that does not mean that you don't have great ability, common sense and good hand eye coordination that is what you need to become skilled at this kind of task!! I would love to see a picture of your result maybe pop one over to me on Insta!! Well done

[@awt]

Thanks Robin, it's really kind of you to give me such an encouraging reply! I will post some pics once I'm a bit further along - when one of my KZbin "heroes" asks to see my efforts, I'm going to make sure I've got something good to show :D

[@MrREHW]

Love your videos! You are my go to for carpentry. I'm off to batten a wall as opposed to dob and dab. 😃

[@tmenzella]

The thing I notice on all your videos is you still love doing the job. Good on ya mate 👍🏻

[@ukconstruction]

Yep I really enjoy my work!!

[@paulmetcalfe3721]

Having lovely plumb, flat, true walls makes a kitchen install soooo much easier and, in fact, longer-lasting.

[@tribalm0nkey]

I love these videos, I’ve learned a lot from them and would like to thank you for taking the time to make them. Anyone just starting out in the trade this Chanel can help you a a lot and is invaluable in its knowledge, I fully recommend 👍🏽

[@ukconstruction]

Thanks mate

[@michaelwilliams4086]

Very neat job. Best part of the day, having the sable Cocker Spaniel come and check on your well-being. A good day 😁

[@karma3101]

I've never thought of building a frame when battening a wall with lath. It's a no brainer when you see it done.

[@julianday5466]

So glad I watched this before starting my drylining project, am convinced this is the best way to go about it - many thanks for another excellent video.

[@ukconstruction]

Thanks Julian!!

[@roverboat2503]

Good timing! I'm doing a batten wall next week!

[@Hew.Jarsol]

Same

[@markhannan4712]

Love watching you work you are a genius with wood

[@ukconstruction]

Thank you so much 😀

[@jonathanpike5879]

Well done good to see a good Chippie

[@Patrick-xo4fq]

Very good system.. nice tools too

[@paulzirker706]

Great video Robin showing us great tips. Another great educational teaching points.

[@joshuamatheron1]

Use the same method. Sometimes I’ll clamp the level/straight edge to the stud work to save holding it whilst packing the batten. I’m not personally a huge fan of those fixings. Plugs can be a faff but they’re far stronger in my opinion. Especially into softer substrates. Great video as always.

[@AronW4]

Thank you, great tips!

[@painterman8863]

Should be done by Christmas mate😁😁😅😂 Coming along nice Darren 👌

[@aaronslator8006]

Jaysus mate I've a job there Tommorow at work big 5 metre span wall to be battened out and it's like a fiddlers elbow gonna give this a try and see how I get on 👍

[@TineBeo]

So good. So so good. Thx man from Ireland

[@ukconstruction]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@SmallWonda]

Thanks Robin & Ed, very handy lesson, one for the files as it will come in handy one day. Cheers guys.

[@Simon-qw7wz]

I have done it this way and just dot dabbed over which is much quicker. Looks like the floor is newly laid to raise level so probably above doc level so need to add more under battens

[@Doug....]

Nicely done Robin. Great solution to an out of plumb wall. 👍👍

[@garyengland5326]

Great video, but I would still dot and dab that wall as I think it's faster. I'd install the plasterboard horizontal, so the sheet landed on the studs and the masonry so there was no vertical join between the substrates. Doing this also gives you the stud wall to tap off, guaranteeing it stays plumb and flat

[@MrSamuelatkinson1]

Great video mate. Very helpful 👍

[@DjGiluk]

Brilliant video, thanks

[@ukconstruction]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@neiljones7137]

i so wish i would have seen this about six months ago when i was trying to straighten a Victorian brick loft wall. So simple

[@BrianGayAnglingImages]

Excellent.

[@nickrider815]

There are still a couple of issues you need to take into consideration. First is, you will always get flex at the point of joining so plasterboard should never butt up at a joint between brickwork and studwork. The other issue I found out the hard way is sound proofing is impossible with dot and dab and on framed plasterboard, you need to ensure there are zero voids and fill with something like rockwool slabs.

[@johncowie3092]

Good info here I do get good results but I do individual battens the pre build is better cheers

[@andrewwallace7574]

Use expanding foam down back wood makes super strong

[@tobywhalley9406]

Love your videos as always robin! You’re a big inspiration to me thank you 🙏🏻

[@ukconstruction]

Thank you so much!

[@RATHER5KEPTICAL]

QUESTION: I have 200+ year old 700mm sandstone walls. To improve moisture management in the walls can you put vents in the plasterboard into the void?

[@deadlevelwillie]

Top job again Robin

[@carlosibbotson710]

Fantastic video as always. On the video you have created a framing for that specific space. If you are doing a full room what size frames would you use? Assuming there is a maximum size. Thanks

[@plummetplum]

Lovely dog. 😍

[@Messimagician83]

Would the screws rust over time being in treated timber? Would they be better being stainless steel?

[@yorrick1971]

One other question - let's say the wall you were battening on to was old Victorian plaster, so you couldn't see the brick coursing. Would you havk off all the plaster so you could see the bricks and centre your fixings, or leave the plaster on and take your chances?

[@cglees]

Great video Robin

[@paulsmith6032]

Great video thank you - out of interest is there a reason you don’t clamp the level to the stud wall to free up your hands around 27:30?

[@Samxronn]

Fantastic video Robin!

[@phillnavin1212]

Nice video, neat work. What do you do if the floor isn’t level, therefore the frame you built wouldn’t fit tight? Cheers

[@stepbackandthink]

The first potential solution (plastering) is always a bad idea anyway because no matter how well you think you join it, there will always be a likely vertical crack where the materials meet.

[@ninety1464]

Why not just put a board over the join? On side dabbed the other side fixed

[@stepbackandthink]

@@ninety1464 I think here because the wall was not plumb.

[@ninety1464]

@stepbackandthink doesnt matter, you can dab a board square if the masonry is 2 inches out of plumb or more. And as he described you'd just build your studwork using the outermost point of the masonry wall as the datum

[@stepbackandthink]

I’m not disagreeing with you.

[@chrismartell6135]

He doesn’t trust the plasterers (wise)

[@yourmasterrenovator86]

Very vert smart and intelligent 👍👌👌👌👌👏👏👏👏

[@Toyotaamazon80series]

Try putting a pouch on the right hand side of your Diamond Back rig Robin. That way you can holster your 12v impact or drill/driver. I do most of my drilling and driving with a Bosch 12V impact and Bosch 12v drill/driver. I usually have one of them holstered like a side arm on my right hand side. It's always there when i need it, 👍💪🔨🇮🇪

[@ukconstruction]

I need to adjust my rig to enable that, I had a belt clip on the M12 Milwaukee but It fell of and that was great as it hooked on the pouch!!!!

[@Toyotaamazon80series]

@@ukconstruction Indeed, if you switched over to the post type battery Rather than the platform type. The 12v impact and drill/driver's fit better that way. To be clear I'm not telling you what to do, just thinking out loud, 👍💪🔨🇮🇪

[@padandy1971]

Gypline lad and expansion joint where 2 substrates meet ,other way ,6a on roof 6a on floor place top hat @ 400 centers pack behind and with packers bonding or expandion foam , This is good but time consuming, Loads of ways to do the same job, 100 % for effort, Keep it up

[@Tephnos]

Robin, have you ever worked with metal studwork? I had never really thought about it before, but discovered it is actually the norm in residential properties in France to completely build them out of metal, and it kind of baffles me that we don't use it more here. Metal never warps, never bows, is always true (these points are especially important as someone dealing with an old house - it makes me hate wood!) and it doesn't rot or decay (also great for a rainy climate like ours). About the main con I can think of, it is that it is absolutely terrible for insulation, transferring heat about 400x more than wood. But if you're building a metal framed house from scratch, you could account for that with external insulation and a warm roof. I suppose you could also add on that the quality of wood in recent years is becoming utter crap, something you don't need to worry about with steel.

[@chrisbradshaw7273]

In a different situation, on a party wall for example, I wonder if you could use a different fixing method to improve sound insulation?

[@ookoro]

For old buildings with an unfilled cavity would you use metal or wooen battens?

[@gbbman2409]

what screws do you use to attach it to the brick wall?

[@andrewrobinson7797]

What's your view on clearing dust out of the hole before driving the concrete screws in? I always clear it in case the screw spins.

[@ukconstruction]

With any injected fixing like chemical resin I would always clear the hole. with the masonry screws the dust binds it all together and probably makes it stronger!!!

[@muhammada5178]

Thank you

[@thisguy8581]

Hi, I recently had to strip my bathroom down it has layers of tile and plaster would this be something that could be implemented in this situation, as the brickwork is warped in quite a few places? i think the framing would have to attach to joists under the floor of the upstairs bedroom but havn't gotten that far yet.

[@kevinwooldridge2127]

Brilliant thank you

[@PeterHunt-v6t]

If you had aa 30ft long wall would you make up several frames and what would be the maximum width you would make each one.

[@dickiedubs3137]

I have a question, will a battened wall support heavy items. We have a battened wall fitted to a solid brick wall and we need a boiler hanging on that wall. The plan is to remove some plaster board and fix some ply to the batten.

[@ukconstruction]

Yes it will, there are fixings such as corefix that will enable you to fix a heavy item such as a boiler to a wall such as this by incorporating a strong steel sleeve that gives the strength you will need to hold into the plasterboard through to the brickwall see here amzn.to/4d5XlgX

[@dickiedubs3137]

@@ukconstruction I've looked into the corefix and unfortunately because the wall has been insulated and battened each side the depth is too big for the sleeve. They have used roofing battens like your self and my plan is to remove the plasterboard and then fix section of plywood or sterling to the battens to support the weight of the boiler. The battens have masonry screws secured into the solid brick wall behind it. My worry was whether such small battens would be adequate....or whether I'd need a 2x2 or cls

[@Jogmaster9]

Have you tried expanding foam grab adhesive instead of packers? Squirt the foam then tighten screw down until battern is level then nip up when foam is solid. Ok if you have other jobs to while waiting.

[@db7948]

I use it all the time.. brilliant stuff