Ukraine Situation? | Doug Wilson

In this episode of Ask Doug, Pastor Doug Wilson discusses what we should think about the Ukraine situation at this point.
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[@mosesking2923]

In 1991, Russia was 31% Christian. Today, Russia is 78% Christian. The Orthodox Church has grown massively in Russia with a reversal of secularism. What does Doug attribute to this growth of Christianity in Russia? What can America emulate and learn from them to replicate this success?

[@anyanyanyanyanyany3551]

@@mosesking2923 Russians are barely Christians anymore. Only 7% attend church services at least once a month. Doesn't matter how many choose to identify as Christians. Actions speak louder than words.

[@reconcostarica2362]

Is preemptive war biblically justifiable?

[@mosesking2923]

@@anyanyanyanyanyany3551 you are judging the Russian church by the incorrect standard. Russian Orthodox do not have a requirement for Sunday mandatory attendance like the Roman Catholics so your standard doesn’t apply. Also, Christian identity is still important. Culture is not irrelevant. Culture oftentimes leads to practice.

[@grantarmbruster6591]

@@reconcostarica2362 was threats to go to war if Cuba got the bomb.

[@Joey-fq5rr]

I can only go halfway with Doug on this one. He brings up some good points about the deep-seeded issues here that go back centuries, that we need to have a full view of history, and about Russia invading over the *idea* that Ukraine might get nukes. I do have a few issues 1. This seems to not be an all out blitzkrieg as Russia hasn't taken out much, or if any, cellular infrastructure, internet, etc. This seems to be an extremely calculated measure, securing the parts of Ukraine that are ethnically Russian and who have previously voted to be apart of Russia. Don't forget that Ukraine has basically shut off water to Crimea, and has been shelling the Donbas region nonstop for at least the last 5 years. Russia drew a line in the sand years ago and western powers have kept poking the bear. 2. On top of that, Zelensky is a literal comedian installed by the US as a puppet president to launder money for western elites. He is only there to support the west's agenda of spreading liberalism and effectively turning the country into a degenerate hellhole. The west doesn't actually care about Ukraine or it's people otherwise they wouldn't be praising Zelensky for conscripting men 18-60, and handing out weapons effectively making his people meat shields to protect him and the west's façade. They only care about their idea of liberalism being spread to every nation. 3. Last, but most important, Ben brings up how everyone seems to be unified over this issue and hints that he thinks it is strange. I would just caution that this is exactly what this regime wants- to unify everyone that has previously defected from it. People have been slowly but surely defected since the War on Terror was sold to them and each year more people's eyes are opened to the absolute destruction and ugliness of this project of liberalism/globalism by western elites. Just yesterday these people were all lying to us about Covid, lied to us about WMDs, lied to us about the NSA, etc, etc. Why should we expect them to be telling the truth this time? They only care about their project of liberalism and it can only be accomplished if everyone is on the same page/unaware of what is actually happening. It is an extremely complex situation. We need to be in prayer and remember to have a clear head about all of this. The Lord is sovereign and in control of all.

[@craigward7691]

Amen to that brother. Thoughtful, considered response

[@MakeAmericaNiceAgainPlz]

PREACH!!!

[@demetriusjohnson5358]

A great response in my estimation...a great one.

[@cole141000]

I can agree with most of what you said, except I’m not so sure about Kharkiv fitting that agenda neatly. And it does seem like Moldova is next - but we’ll see.

[@johnvillasenior2355]

Hammer on the head. And of course the timing is perfect for Russia to be blamed for the economic collapse. $10/gallon gas...that's Russias fault. Don't look at the 5 trillion dollars we just printed up!

[@Tom67X]

I find 2 things very odd...and highly disconcerting: 1. We are so blind to our own faults as a nation- whatever we do is justified, but when someone else does it- it's wrong/a threat/over-exertion/what-have-you. 2. The talking points of the Church at large is almost indistinguishable from the mainstream/legacy/socials in the narrative du jour.

[@DallasNewman777]

Exactly

[@brian6455]

point number 2 is dead on. The "church" , or the wokey ones , need something to rally behind so people will stop accusing them of selling out to the 501c3. People have called them out and covid rules exposed where the enemy is. weak pastors sold their souls to put asses in the seats.

[@dunexapa1016]

Invasion of Iraq, No proof it was not controlled demolition that caused total collapse of WTC 1 and 2.

[@RussianBot4Christ]

I can't critique everything, and its not a horrible take but two points: On trade, Russia is both securing oil dominance and wheat dominance. It was already dominant in wheat exports, being the number #1 exporter in the world, and will only get more dominant with the disruption and control of the Ukrainian wheat supplies. On NATO expansion. Ukraine was openly posturing joining NATO. Once Ukraine would, Ukraine could harbor missiles, and Russia couldn't do anything about it. Russia is doing something about it right now.

[@breddythewinner]

agreed. i support Russia in this conflict and care very little for Ukraine. i only feel bad for some people within Ukraine but they must handle this themselves.

[@stojanjankovic5669]

Russia is doing what is necessary for its survival. Western oligarchs have Russian resources in crosshairs. Russia is a symbol of trust and given word and honorable warfare compared to NATO. Everyone cries about Ukraine where Russians are holding back big weapons to save people and infrastructure, while the west is sending and funding mercenaries and pumping weapons for further devastation to keep their puppet as president. Ukraine is mostly intact compared to what NATO did to Serbia. You should be ashamed of your double standards. Just because your Media wants to pump narrative, you all jump along. The US has the biggest gullible population to be used for distorting global perception. Such nationwide ignorance will eventually face righteous judgment.

[@mcgruff7355]

Exqctly

[@MakeAmericaNiceAgainPlz]

@@stojanjankovic5669To quote Voddie Baucham "If you can't say amen, say ouch." As an American I must sadly agree with the fact most are gullible to the mainstream media for example covid-19 and the selection of Biden for president despite election fraud controversies.

[@breddythewinner]

@@stojanjankovic5669 as a proud American, i could not agree with you more. i support Russia and Putin and pray that they maintain their sovereignty as a nation.

[@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast]

Respect for attempting to navigate this when many pastors aren’t. Also, thank you for saying it’s complex. One quibble- the Cuban missile crisis analogy is brought up because: 1. Ukraine receives billions in both military funding and equipment from Western countries already. That number has risen since 2014. 2. Last year Zelensky vowed to take back Crimea and our secretary of state expressed solidarity in a joint press conference. 3. There is an ongoing conflict in eastern Ukraine involving militia groups and Ukrainian government against pro-Russian groups and some Russian forces already. This war has been going on for eight years already. This is an escalation in it. 4. If Ukraine joins NATO, and attempt to take back Crimea, or perhaps the ongoing conflict, would pull the entire West into conflict with Russia because of NATO’s engagement rules. 5. The Russian ambassador complained last year about five Wuhan style bio chemical weapons labs in Ukraine that are in fact American. As you can see it’s more complex then, “Well they don’t have a missile” even though zelensky wants one. Its more like, this is the death of a thousand cuts. Ukraine broke the Minsk agreement and so Russia has no guarantees from them or us, since we just told Russia last year Ukraine can join NATO, that Ukraine isn’t and won’t continue to be a stronger threat. Agree with most the the analysis. Putin invading seems very wrong to me, but if Mexico took the same steps Ukraine is taking with the backing of China I imagine similar conversations would be happening here. It’s a little bit closer to the Cuban missile crisis than it is Hitler invading the Sudentanland or something, for purely imperial motives couched in defending Germans when there wasn’t a threat.

[@raquelrobaert]

I wish Pastor Doug Wilson was my father in law because he is just awesome!

[@keithwilson6060]

Marry his son.

[@YourMom777-x3x]

Doug, what should believers think about you shoving undisclosed amount of food in your mouth 👄 and having a 52’ waist line? Hometown Buffet and Doug.

[@keithwilson6060]

@@YourMom777-x3x What’s your point? Can you point to some sinfulness if some behavior you’re imagining?

[@SpyderInsyder]

Don't fall into the sin of hero worship

[@ghosttrain4118]

@@YourMom777-x3x Yeah, he's fat. So?

[@krismckenzie7759]

Ukraine is geographically crucial. Ukraine as a staging ground for Nato tanks would leave Russia constantly vulnerable. From Ukraine Russia is a wide open flat plain versus armies coming over more difficult terrain from other Nato countries. Putin sees this as a vital security issue. Keep Nato and the EU out of Ukraine. Keep Ukraine as a buffer state between the West and Russia. Doing otherwise drives Putin into the arms of China and possibly WWIII.

[@tayzk5929]

True. The europeans and americans attacking Putin now, would want their leader to do the exact same thing if they were in his position, if they had any witts about them.

[@krismckenzie7759]

@@scotoftheanarchic.7903 Of course Ukraine is a sovereign state with the right to self determination. I wasn't meaning to imply that they should have their future determined by others.. Just offering a reasonable solution that allows both sides to back down with dignity and that doesn't include scorched earth and thousands to millions dead. Fortunately for you, I am not a trained diplomat and my proposed scenario will most likely will not take place.

[@waleed8530]

@@krismckenzie7759 Ukraine is a pillow state, at least from Russian perspective. I also think NATO wouldn't allow Ukraine to join, the latter is seen as a liability.

[@trevorharrison1989]

There’s a real big and obvious reason that this canard isn’t more than an excuse for what they’re doing. They have over 6000 nukes. Nobody with any, and i mean any, geopolitical knowledge thinks russia is an invadable nation. Its not. Nobody including putin thinks it is. The very reason we let russia get away with any of this is the nukes. Do you think the exsoviet states have a good reason to want protection from russia because there’s about a million of them. Russia doesn’t get my sympathy for nato encroachment nor does it threaten invasion and everyone knows that. The nukes. Uninvadable.

[@ghosttrain4118]

Ukriane is a buffer state, a pillow state, a fence state, a cushion state, s safety mattress state, an airbag state and, don't forget, a crotch gear state.

[@grantarmbruster6591]

Pray. Is the best answer. Pray for the civilians on both/all sides. Pray for soldiers that are doing what they believe is right. Pray that all corruption is laid bare. Bio labs are arguably worse than missiles. And yes nato put missiles in every country that boarders Russia.

[@khaccanhle1930]

And isn't it interesting how both the mainstream left in the mainstream right all fall right in line when it comes to these issues. I keep telling conservatives, you cannot have a peaceful prosperous and free country if you continually get involved in Foreign Wars. Naturally they would rather follow the policy of Woodrow Wilson than Thomas Jefferson when it comes to Foreign Affairs. Which is why their big government liberal opponents thrash them every single generation and will continue to do so. Conservatives buy into left-wing ideas about foreign policy and they don't even realize it.

[@neilnolte2587]

Is it true that Zelensky imprisoned his political opponents and shutdown the media outlets criticizing him?

[@tayzk5929]

Yes, Ukraine has been an incredibly corrupt country

[@markmeyer6729]

Never let a good crisis go to waste

[@waleed8530]

@@tayzk5929 Ukraine corruption level is on par with Russia or might be an enhanced version after all.

[@justindomino]

It's also important to know that Doug is a pastor, not a politician, historian, or expert on the matter.

[@dabrupro]

Interestingly, the Westerner's "natural sympathy" for "the Ukraine" does not normally extend to Yemen, Afghanistan....Curious that.

[@horrificpleasantry9474]

Counterpoint: the Kurds

[@dabrupro]

@@horrificpleasantry9474 I hope you're correct. Many of the "westerners" I know think Iranians are Arabs. Not that they know that much more about Europe, but they tend to understand that Italians are not French, for example.

[@dylanmilks]

I would tend to support Russia in this issue (not to say that I agree with all of their actions). If Ukraine falls into NATO's hands, and sets up its missile defense system along Russia's border, the consequences of that would be far MORE instability and hostility. I believe Putin is acting preemptively. As a Canadian, I do NOT want Ukraine to fall to NATO.

[@tayzk5929]

True, the europeans and americans that hate putin would do the exact same thing Putin is doing, if they were in his shoes. If they had any witts about them. It's America that's unnecessarily caused this conflict, and are responsible for the Ukrainians and Russians that will suffer during this conflict.

[@JohnNewtoner]

As another fellow Canadian I totally agree with you. Also, Russian is actively opening up immigration to Canadians and Americans with Conservative Christian family values.

[@jeanettejeanette1199]

Youre right in saying it is so complicated, there are a lot of things that aren't mentioned by mainstream news. I sort of realised all I can do at least, is just pray, pray that God protects everyone involved and helps to de escalate the whole thing, because the world doesn't want or need another world war. Its some troubling times were living in :/

[@tayzk5929]

Watch Prof. John Mearsheimer to get a dissenting view from the mainstream view.

[@sheilasmith7779]

America historically gets it wrong and makes conditions worse. Russia has a valid concern about Ukraine having U.N. troops on its border. All this could have been avoided had we not pushed for Ukraine to join NATO. Also, Putin wants Ukraine back as part of Russia. Eastern Europe needs to settle this, not America.

[@justinedwards6390]

Need to also consider and mention what Ukraine has been doing for 7-8 years in the Donbass region

[@tayzk5929]

Very true

[@vaderetro264]

Like letting the ultra nationalists join the Ukranian army, instead of fighting them.

[@reconcostarica2362]

@@vaderetro264 Right. And now those neo Nazis even killed a Ukrainian general to make the point that they won't take orders from Ukraine's high command and suddenly the Nazi's headquarters got bombed. Ukraine has been a divided people killing itself in a civil war long before Russia made its advance.

[@khaccanhle1930]

No, we're all cry crocodile tears about Ukrainian people dying, and we will ignore the fact that the Ukraine regime has been killing its own citizens by the thousands for the past 8 years. Ukrainian lives matter only when it's the Russian army doing the killing, when it's the Ukrainian Army Ukrainian lives don't matter. And naturally Russian lives didn't matter either for the past eight years. It sounds like the same tactic that is used by BLM, maybe that's why the left-wing media is savagely supporting both Ukrainian regime and BLM is well. Maybe there's a connection

[@kelvyquayo]

@@khaccanhle1930 BLM are the one who call people Nazis to justify violence. Is the irony of what you’re selling really that lost on you or do you no care?

[@CornerTalker]

The most important thing about this is it's not our fight. "Whoever meddles in a quarrel not his own is like one who grabs a stray dog by the ears." Proverbs 26:17

[@craigward7691]

beautiful Proverb and incredibly pertinent

[@yayforeals]

I for once don’t agree but am slightly neutral and very skeptical when you have the same liars and dictators who for 2 years peddled lies fear and control and now they say to go for Ukraine without question? I honestly don’t know on this one and am just discerning for now esp you forgot to leave a huge component out of the possible invitation of nato which Putin said over and over again if they did not retract that it could lead to war and there are many years of Russian dissatisfaction in nato expansion along their borders. Also through various sources the president and those who set up the current form of govt from the us backed coup were a bunch of actual nazis and the current president silenced all pro Russian news outlets months ago which as you Pastor Doug even said with the scandemic that when those in power try to silence any dissent or discussion without ever letting it occur that’s a red flag and cause to not trust what they say . Personally though with how complicated it is and so many things don’t seem as they are like with the scandemic I have chosen to be neutral for now till more info comes out

[@kated4359]

Could you address the part Ukraine plays in the Great Reset?

[@Cinnamonbuns13]

Where can I find out more?

[@ljones98391]

And look also at the degree of meddling, corruption, effection of CIA a orchestrated coups, and money laundering by the US in Ukraine?

[@tayzk5929]

When Americans are unified in sentiment about a current political situation, the sentiment is always awful and ignorant. So that's not a good thing. The best thing for America is polarization.

[@nahumhabte6210]

Your insight is Gold.

[@khaccanhle1930]

A conservative should be real careful when he is on the same team as George Soros and HRC. And if you support Ukraine, that's what you are.

[@benharmon1211]

The best thing that could happen at this point is Zelensky (who was set in power by the West and is not Ukrainian) to get out of the way and allow Ukraine to negotiate peace and neutral status with Russia. That won't happen though because Zelensky is going to allow for maximum casualties of Ukrainian Christians and Russian Christians in the needless fighting.

[@johnwurfel2862]

Yes.

[@Ramius117]

Has he not been trying to negotiate for peace, or do you take all to that to be for show?

[@JohnCenaFan6298]

He hasnt. If he wanted to negotiate he would have agreed to negotiate as were the rules for the treaty he agreed with with Russia in December. But he and NATO didnt negotiate which caused escalation on Russia's part. He was supposed to negotiate with Putin the release of russian cities along the border with Russia. He is trying to attract as much European attention as possible

[@JustinVK]

Zelensky pro LGBT, Putin murderer but anti lgbt, pick your poison

[@marymagdalene774]

He is a clown and people are comparing him with King David

[@MAN-fq6bc]

“Full on blitzkrieg” spoken by your guest. Not really. A relatively small percentage of Russian firepower has been used. Quality military strategists know this. Let’s be careful about these statements. A full on invasion would have already seen hundreds of thousands dead. Remember that Ukrainian Azov battalion often operates in civilian areas leading to civilian deaths. It’s all terrible for the citizens. Also remember that 14,000 civilians in the breakaway republics of eastern Ukraine have been killed by Ukrainian forces since 2014.

[@grantarmbruster6591]

Russia has been gentle.

[@WhatAHorribleNight]

Agreed on the misuse of "full on" Blitzkrieg. If Russia went all-in on the invasion, they'd have flattened the Ukrainian military within days. This has been a relatively limited incursion. Not saying it's right, just not a "full on blitzkrieg".

[@benharmon1211]

Plus the fact that Russia is providing humanitarian aid to Ukraine. I'd hardly call that a blitzkrieg with the goal of maximum destruction.

[@RussianBot4Christ]

​@@AaronGrosch29 Russian Ministry of Defense KZbin channel has videos documenting the distribution of aid. Telegram channel "Intel Slava Z" has a lot of pro Russian stuff with English explanations. There's video of humanitarian aid on there as well.

[@johnwurfel2862]

Russia has done much better at "loving their neighbor" than the USA did in Afghanistan/Iraq/Vietnam. They offered terms but entrenched powers in Ukraine want to drag in the West. Russia does not want infighting afterwards. They are neighbors, after all.

[@WayCoolJr27]

I'd suggest viewers of this channel to watch Oliver's Stones documentary on Ukraine.

[@ljones98391]

That is an excellent documentary giving the complex history of this situation. Good post and recommendation. Called “Ukraine on Fire.”

[@jeffyoung2089]

In 1959 the US put icbms in Turkey, then in 1961 was when Russia put missle on Cuba.

[@joshuamichael2463]

Wonder if we could get pastor Doug to unpack the situation for us a little more in depth

[@jd-jw8hm]

Putin requested Russia to join NATO in 2000..not many people know that.. His request was denied..He was told "Russia is too big".. 🇺🇸 simply didn't want any competition..ruling over the NATO alliance... So pride is what's brought us to this point.. AND treating our Eastern brothers with disdain & contempt... definitely not Christian behavior..

[@robertdavidson9674]

Plus, Doug ignores or overlooks the fact that we've already got nukes on Putin's "front porch" (Putin's analogy) in numerous other former Eastern bloc nations, (including the Balkans on their border), when Reagan/Baker promised Gorbachev NATO would never go an inch East of Berlin. Russia already has less than a 5-minute response time, which makes it launch on warning for them and. So it's already worse than the Cuba-Florida analogy.

[@denverfletcher9419]

Ukraine's ground forces are 3/4 of the way to being encircled in eastern Ukraine BECAUSE they've been massing forces on the borders of the Donbas region. Now, if Russia's months long massing of forces on Ukraine's borders was an undeniable prelude to invasion, what was Ukraine's massing of forces on the Donbas borders? When you face this question, and when you face the double standards applied by the West, such as the Bush doctrine of "pre-emptive nuclear war", then the whole situation looks a lot less as it is commonly being described, and a lot more like a bear trap we stupidly stuck an arm and a leg into ...

[@craigward7691]

amen brother

[@toddfarr1460]

They don't have the right to take back their own region? The Donbas region belongs to Ukraine, not Russia. Ukraine wants independence. Period. They do not belong to Russia and do not need to answer to Russia for anything.

[@denverfletcher9419]

@@toddfarr1460 I'm not and never have been of the opinion that right and wrong have a lot to do with international relations. I believe that, in a better world they WOULD have a lot more to do with them, but in THIS world, they don't.

[@craigward7691]

@@toddfarr1460 more people there are pro Russia than anti Russia......so, pray tell.....what authority does Ukraine have there when THE PEOPLE have decided for themselves

[@toddfarr1460]

@@craigward7691 Really? Because of the millions of people forced to flee because of the Russian backed separatists taking control of the region in 2014? That's an absurd line of thinking.

[@jenniferherb5212]

After seeing zelenskyy in drag dancing in high heals like a stripper I really don't see manly courage. The people of Ukraine need our prayers with him as their leader

[@robertdavidson9674]

Yes, how can we judge his character on a sound bite, considering all the atrocities he has committed over the past 8 years and the FACT that he is a US/Deep-State/Soros puppet.

[@10Sethg]

The people who believed Jessie Smollet are telling us what to believe about Ukraine.

[@monologtube]

Where can we submit questions for the next session?

[@adamp2426]

Lets not forget Victoria Nulands role in the 2014 coup in Ukraine. Remember the leaked audio of her choosing the next Ukranian president.. And her husband, Robert Kagan, just happens to be one of the architects of the Iraq war.

[@neilmackenzie4394]

Everywhere she goes, there is trouble for the locals. She is the epitome of a "Deep State" agent.

[@carlorsolorzano8943]

Pastor Doug please do a research is not any missiles but ucraine have a lot of biological labs searching for a biological weapons please pastor Doug do a research about it

[@BubbaGump777]

If the media is touting something most likely you should think the exact opposite from what they are trying to feed you. Pastor Doug summarized it very well...

[@davidwilliamson3517]

Maybe it wasn't well thought out the way the question was stated, but asking "what should Christians think about Ukraine" frames the question as asking Doug what our opinion should be. Instead of asking for any insight on the situation. In the church we often elevate teachers as the arbiters of all our opinions. I understand we live in a world of untrustworthy news sources and we as Christians are often left looking for words of wisdom from Men we trust. But might I suggest we pull back from having strong opinions on situations like these and being sucked into inadvertently siding with agendas we shouldn't. Much like the church was used to push masks and vaccines.

[@mbk3561]

Very good points and wise words! Thank you!

[@Cinnamonbuns13]

Zelensky's "courage" looks more like an act than legitimate. He is an actor by trade.

[@toughbiblepassages9082]

You mean he’s pretending to be brave even though he’s actually scared?? 😑😑😑 that’s literally what it means to be courageous

[@thetruthshed]

He seems to be protecting himself and sacrificing the people he is responsible for leading. Fear of losing power and reputation often descends to intimidating others instead of ascending to humility and bravery. Just my opinion, coming from a man who has too often sought to protect myself rather than humbly asking the Father for mercy and guidance.

[@chi-yangcheng8868]

The evilness of Zelensky is obvious: he dressed in female clothing and danced in a Satanic way to please Satan; Zelensky takes billions of US dollars from the US aid package; Zelensky acts as the money laundryman (FTX!) for the corrupt US politicians, including Biden; Zelensky banned opposition parties and Democratic elections; Zelensky openly adores Nazis and their atrocities; Zelensky completely ignores the lives of Ukrainians when he lets the Ukrainian forces fight a proxy war against Russia; Zelensky has been lying constantly in everything he says. No Christians, let alone a pastor. should praise Zelensky who is possibly the most evil clown since the end of the Cold War.

[@ginzaasakusa1829]

What’s the other game going on that we don’t see? The sudden love affair with Ukraine and Zelensky is at some level understandable but also begs the question of why? After the last few years how does the MSM have any credibility?

[@kelvyquayo]

I’ll tell you. I have no Special love for Ukraine…. But I do have a special hate for One Country doing Unrepentant Violence against the population of another country. Apparently this fact seems lost on many people whose minds seem utterly BROKEN by news media…. You speak of love affair for Ukraine? All I see are most people having Love affair for Russia and having a HATE affair with a Ukraine.. Who is being manipulated by whom here? Also I base my opinions on evidence…. Not parroted taking points. (God willing)

[@ljones98391]

@ Ginza Asakusa. US involvement in Ukraine is not sudden. They have been meddling in the politics and raking off money for quite awhile. The perpetrators include career politicians from both parties.

[@hgpilott]

I originally became suspicious of this whole situation when even conservative media started using terms like "baseless claims" referring to Russian persecution. I looked into it and found that these claims were not baseless at all. If you happen to read this Doug, would you think the "invasion" is justified if this is true?

[@DM-dk7js]

Literally nothing can justify this invasion lol.

[@hgpilott]

@@DM-dk7js I don't like what is happening either. But if what Putin claims is true, does it not justify a response? Even a little one?

[@ghosttrain4118]

@@DM-dk7js There you have it. D M has uttered its utterances and no more uttering is necessary.

[@Eskon2]

@@DM-dk7js Biden in 2014 instigated a coup with the Maidan revolution. (see Nuland audio) As a result Hunter biden became CEO of Burisma. In Odessa hundreds were killed in a fire, etc. So since 2014 Russia has been at (proxy)war with Ukraine. Joining Nato of such a beligerent nation on your borders is political suicide. During its annual exercise as per ABC news admission US intellegence guessed an invasion to occur. This revealed to Russia that: 1 US intelligence was lacking and pridefull hogwash. 2. As per Bidens reaction sending some weapons meant nuclear war was not concidered. Thus war became a viable option. So on 21 feb. 2022 Luhansk and Donetsk independance was recognised. And some extremist Ukranian idiots resumed shelling the Donbas region, even intensifying this to vent. So a cassus bellie was established, and war was justified.

[@marendse6561]

I'm pretty sure that whole "I don't need a ride I just need ammo" line was propaganda.

[@martycombs5]

Ukraine also split the Russian Orthodox Church in Dec 2018...

[@RussianBot4Christ]

A split undeniably supported by the CIA.

[@martycombs5]

@@RussianBot4Christ the GloboHomo Empire

[@cachinnation448]

Brilliant Doug Wilson - For Such A TIme As This

[@SincerelyHannah9]

Of course Doug is a completely reasonable and intelligent man. He demonstrated an immense amount of humility by taking a very nuanced approach to this incredibly complex issue.

[@anyanyanyanyanyany3551]

Nah. Doug completely missed on this one. He didn't even touch on the religious dimension of this invasion. Not a single word on the Protestants in Ukraine who will most likely be killed under Putin's regime.

[@JakeRuzi]

@@anyanyanyanyanyany3551 You watched a small section of what I imagine was a much larger conversation

[@cole141000]

I’d like to hear Doug give the longer version of this.

[@tayzk5929]

Watch Prof. John Mearsheimer to get a dissenting view from the mainstream view.

[@cole141000]

@@tayzk5929 👍🏼 got it

[@nattamused9074]

I don’t know much about the conflict in Russia and Ukraine, but I have heard directly from some Ukrainian refugees here where I live in Texas. They shared some of the atrocities which took place in their hometown by order of the Russian military. It was shocking. And while the situation most certainly is very complicated indeed, it’s little wonder so many Americans have sided with Ukraine. On the other hand, my husband has told me of Russian News articles he has read which detail similar atrocities from the Ukrainians against the Russians for decades. Which doesn’t exonerate Russian war crimes, but it might explain them. All in all, as an American who is watching my own borders trampled down by legions of foreign trespassers, I cannot understand why our Commander In Chief has sent our soldiers and resources to Ukraine.

[@caedmoncoley8140]

Wow, I got here first! Good insights into the current situation in Ukraine.

[@Ca_Tule_Ninja]

Congratulations, here’s a cookie.

[@MrTexaspreacher]

"Everybody gravitated to it" No, the magicians in the media told the people to gravitate to it.

[@Jimmymcgee2]

No, it was natural. Human nature

[@onehumanhistory]

How dare you try and see it from all sides! Haha

[@richardrichard5319]

We have 11 bio weapons labs in Ukraine! But no missiles😂

[@Saratogan]

Pray for Christians in Ukraine. Provide practical support to Christians in the surrounding countries who are providing practical aid and spiritual comfort to those fleeing the conflict.

[@tropicalgarden2884]

Dear brother's & sisters PLEASE PRAY for Ukraine🇺🇦 THEY NEED PRAYERS!!!! MORE Prayers🙏🙏🙏 PRAYERS especially at night when they are being bombed 😭😭😭 please just PRAY 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@craigward7691]

nice gaslighting

[@mlwilson2956]

Were you asking for prayers when the Ukrainian military was murdering civilians in Eastern Ukraine?

[@VladimirRussia29]

Manly courage? He since has fled to Poland.

[@tayzk5929]

Watch Prof. John Mearsheimer to get a dissenting view from the mainstream view.

[@TheSolarAge]

“I don’t need a ride I need amo” - scripted ... it is smoke screen.

[@gregshock]

Sounds just like a line from a movie. It makes you sick that people don’t see the BS.

[@gnc623]

Ooh, you had me right up until the end when you said Zelenskyy displayed "manly courage."

[@danmannz]

Ukraine leader would be out of his mind not to develop nuclear weapons? are you crazy? if Russia gets wind of this, then they will be back all over again. Russia doesn't want to go back in again, I get the feeling that Putin will create safeguards to prevent this from happening as one of the conditions of them leaving.

[@leadguitar5665]

The intention wasn't to avoid it, rather provoke it.

[@ancil57]

It isn't hard to imagine Mr. Wilson defending the Roman occupation of Jerusalem. Now, you have to understand, Caesar had some conservative policies with which I agree, and he did allow the Pharisees and Sadducees some degree of autonomy relative to management of the Temple. Now, was he complicit in the execution of the Son of God? Perhaps, but one has to place those events into their proper historical context.

[@mlwilson2956]

That's now the "own" you think it is. You're really just showing you know as little about theology as you do geopolitics

[@ancil57]

@@mlwilson2956 There is an elegant symmetry between the quality of your reply and your blithely ignorant commentary. Did not Jesus live in an occupied Israel? Did not Pilate give some degree of autonomy to the Jewish religious leaders? Did not Pilate condemn Jesus to death? I only discovered your videos today and they remind me of what Jesus said to Pilate: "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place." You, sir, are among those whose kingdom is of this world, offering subtle apologies for Putin. "For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." Perhaps you should spend more time contemplating that message instead of wallowing in self-aggrandizement.

[@jeffreyfisher4854]

Full-on blitzkrieg? Just wipe it out? Are you serious? If that is true why is the lightning attack taking so long against such an inferior force? Could it be that you too are promoting a warped perspective of what is actually happening?

[@mattdoyle6871]

How does Doug leave out that Putin signed that agreement, too, not just the USA?

[@benjaminperez1149]

Pastor Doug, your analysis is spot on. God bless you.

[@--i-am-root]

2:00 but there were missiles in Turkey and Italy.

[@kramsdrawde8159]

I noticed the soviet flag also... I, like Doug, pay attention to small details like that. I DO NOT THINK ZELENSKYY a hero, he should have made every effort to get civilians out and negotiated for such concessions with Putin from day 1. When Zelenskyy started giving out firearms to civilians, he forced Putin to consider all citizens as armed forces. At some point Putin will decide to cut-off all supplies, military or not from returning into east Ukraine especially Kyiv.

[@JimJohn5555]

As a Christian, and having listened to Putin for a number of years answering in depth questions front up delivered by top journalists internationally and his Genuine support of Christian values, I trust him much more than any other western leader. (ANY ONE)

[@chemovourneen6810]

Good Job

[@jackrichardsen9271]

It's not just Cuba. Compare our reaction to Cuba and 2003 Iraq which was based, among other things, on Saddam's development of WMD. You have different options based on the situation. We couldn't directly attack Cuba because the missiles were there. We could attack Saddam because his capacity to hit us back here wasn't completely developed. That's what Russia's doing. And based on our past actions, what we would be doing in their place. Secondly, take a look at who immediately jumped to cancel Russia and the tactics they're using, seizing bank accounts and such. They're a bigger threat to us than Russia is (in any situation short of a nuclear exchange, of course) and are more like to act against us as they did during the covid hysteria.

[@mattdoyle6871]

In 1994 the Budapest Memorandum was signed by the USA, Great Britain, and Russia. Putin signed this agreement for Russia. Here is what was agreed to: "On the pledge by Ukraine to give up their nuclear weapons the three signatories pledge to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine"

[@ljones98391]

@ Matt Doyle. The Ukraine agreed to refrain from joining NATO in the Minsk Agreements which they seem to have forgotten. In addition the western faction of the Ukrainian army has been shelling their own Russian speaking countrymen in eastern Ukraine for the last 8 years killing over 13,000 of them.

[@robertdavidson9674]

@@ljones98391 Not to mention U.S./DeepState/Soros $5 Billion to overthrow the elected President of Ukraine in 2014 as the "use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine" and subsequently install Zelensky as their puppet.

[@lesliegavinsneddon7828]

Zelensky’s manly courage? The manly courage he showed by dressing up in leather spandex (yes there is such a thing) stiletto hills and a plunging neckline, twerking?

[@Bduej563]

Now Zelensky is not Zelensky of 2016

[@lesliegavinsneddon7828]

@@Bduej563 has he been born again? That’s the only way you become a new creation. And what flows from this new birth? “The renewed man acts upon new principles, by new rules, with new ends, and in new company. The believer is created anew; his heart is not merely set right, but a new heart is given him. He is the workmanship of God, created in Christ Jesus unto good works.”

[@tayzk5929]

@@Bduej563 Yes he is. He's a wicked puppet of the most wicked world power.

[@lesliegavinsneddon7828]

@@Bduej563 He’s one and the same because he’s a Jew and doesn’t believe God’s Son the Savior and LORD

[@aceblade]

Ad hominem. Category error. 👎🏼

[@TheMidnightModder]

I don't worship Ukraine, and I don't worship Russia. I worship the LORD, and I desire peace. That is all I need to say about this.

[@gregshock]

Five years ago, we did go all in on domestic oil production and became energy independent. Gee, what happened to that?

[@paulrimmer2853]

We need to understand Ukraine. Large sections of the East are Russian speaking & inclined to unity with Russia not Kiev.

[@danamo5601]

really ? what makes you say that?

[@mlwilson2956]

@@danamo5601 uh...that's an undisputed fact. Do you really know nothing about Ukraine? If so, you should probably stop opining about the current situation

[@danamo5601]

@@mlwilson2956 I could say the same about you. I am eastern European and my interest in the matter is far superior to anything you could come up with. Lol

[@helenel4126]

That line about the inability to arrange a two car funeral was priceless. I agree with Doug's point concerning NATO. We should never have made those promises to Ukraine; by doing so we poked the very xenophobic Russian bear. We are now stuck in this tar baby situation - the notion of permitting a country to invade and take over a sovereign state is horrid, but we are wasting resources we will need very shortly to defend ourselves from the Communist Chinese. That country will first take over Taiwan, a nation with which we have strategic needs (all the high tech manufacturing we foolishly gave up fifty years ago), and then, using biowarfare (wuflu was just an early experiment that went awry before it was perfected), EMP, and neurostrike weapons to defeat us before we can even launch one of our outdated missiles.

[@Erwin70000]

Before every war there's a long period of mental conditioning and psychological preparation. No one wins a war-all are losers. Many lives are lost and even more are shattered. Countries and economies are destroyed; bodies are broken; suffering and sorrow flourish. Children lose the innocence of childhood, young men and women lose the joy of youth, the elderly lose the peace of their twilight years. Everyone loses in the wars of man. Even those who wage war and think they win because they come out on top lose also, for evil gives no reward. Those who live by the sword will also die by the sword. Are the so called diplomats ,on all sides, that allowed this tragedy going to be held accountable for their failure?

[@tayzk5929]

Watch Prof. John Mearsheimer to get a dissenting view from the mainstream view.

[@Erwin70000]

@@tayzk5929 will check it out thank you

[@robertdavidson9674]

There is such a thing as a Biblically just war, as for example, when Russian civilians (the innocent men, women and children of whom you speak) are subjected to genocidal attack for 5-8 years. Or perhaps when 30 years of promises, peace treaties and solemn agreements are broken by one country at the expense of another. A just governor "does not bear the sword in vain" (Romans 13-1-5).

[@Erwin70000]

@@robertdavidson9674 War is an indictment on the participating parties, on the failure of the negotiators, on the greed of the warmongering weapon manufacturers and the physical manifestation of humanities fallen state. I understand your point and in this case the western self-deceived rulers bare the brunt of the blame. The war has long been going on. Smoldering under the polite façade.

[@hapaxlegomenon4990]

Super Intelligent Analysis. By brother Wilson.

[@catholiccrusaderfilms3974]

Arsonists don’t screw up, they intend to start a fire.

[@lewismortimer2573]

Why complicate all of this. If someone comes to your house with a gun, do you defend or surrender? Obviously defend.

[@ericcarson4513]

Won't be long now before the statue topplers come for the cancelling the name of your home town of Moscow, Idaho.

[@garysanders2176]

We shouldn’t be too pro Ukraine because Putin is not pro LGBTQ and is a defender of the Christian faith? Are you out of your mind? Giving Russia cover because Putin is a “traditionalist” is beyond stupid. Especially from a pastor.

[@anyanyanyanyanyany3551]

This whole comment section is full of folks fawning over Putin for defending traditional views as if that gives him a free pass to invade Ukraine.

[@vaderetro264]

You really need to study what's actually been going on, instead of listening to mainstream anti Russia propaganda.

[@ljones98391]

@@anyanyanyanyanyany3551 Perhaps you might take a look at Oliver Stone’s documentary on the complex history of Ukraine. It’s called “Ukraine on Fire.” You will get something that is not being mentioned by the MSM. I found a complete version on KZbin.

[@philipmcniel4908]

Could somebody please tell the American Conservatives that they're supposed to _oppose_ Stalin apologists and Soviet Union glorification, even if it happens to briefly put them on the same side as the MSM (which usually pushes aside stories of Communism's death toll)?

[@philipmcniel4908]

p.s. I'm not saying you have to agree with all of Zelenskyy's policy preferences (I've been told that he wants free abortions), but a Soviet wannabe is hardly a step up.

[@gregshock]

Christians are supposed to oppose lies and promote the truth. We know the communists in the US media and most of our government are liars and should be fought at all times.

[@manasavuibaubatiwale3593]

Totally agree 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@sardinah70]

And was there any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, hmmm or just oil?

[@neilmackenzie4394]

A word about Mr. Zelensky. Geraldo Lira, who has lived in Ukraine, for a long time says that Mr. Zelensky, is a cocaine addicted actor supported by the Israeli, Cypriot, Ukranian, Oligarch, Igor Kolimoisky. Mr. Kolimoisky, who is worth billions of dollars, tapped Mr. Zelensky, to play the president of Ukraine, on a TV show that aired on Mr. Kolimoisky's TV Network. The show, called "Servant of the People" was very popular. Next, Mr. Kolimoisky, funded a Ukranian political Party, also named Servant of the People, with Mr. Zelensky, as their candidate. Mr. Zelensky, has received large sums of money from Mr. Kolimoisky. So has the Son of the man who presently occupies the White house of the Un ited States. Mr. Kolimoisky, was a principle investor in Burisma Gas. The company that paid Hunter Biden, fifty thousand dollars a month to be one of the company's board members. Mr Zelensky, may be a brave man, but I want nothing to do with him, or his country.

[@michaelmaestri4071]

Almost got it right, but US has been much more provocative than allowed

[@jhausa8274]

It’s interesting because that quote of ‘needing ammunition, not a ride’ isn’t actually a verifiable quote. A lot of propaganda coming from both sides, naturally

[@otispage5746]

He should have been been an actor and played pro Russia.

[@shaemurphy8193]

As is a matter of priorities - Isn't fundamental human freed a more important concept than LGBQT+ rights? Those Christians who support Putin's correct stand on LGBQT+ issues, aren't those same Christians missing the boat when it comes to the dignity that God gave humans when He wants us to enjoy ordered liberty?

[@leonpope861]

We placed missiles in Italy,and Turkey back in 1962 🧩🧭🧠

[@ronin8898]

The missiles are in Poland. We need to pray for our brethren in Ukraine and Russia. The weather wants a proxy war in Ukraine against Russia.

[@gsmiro]

However as of today 3/4/22 Zelensky is reported to have fled to Poland already.

[@andreyemelyanenko5230]

As pastor Wilson once said: It is our cookies

[@bengongillbonny7377]

Nwo is Ukraine

[@LFJ10.]

He is a fake those videos of him looking courageous are yrs old

[@MarreOfficial]

Usa didint put missiles but they built like 10 biolabs focused on genetic specific bioweapons for slavik race people. So it might be worse in some ways

[@DM-dk7js]

LOLOLOL

[@jtvandizzle643]

It's Ukraine not The Ukraine. Thats like saying the America instead of America. FYI.

[@tayzk5929]

Well people do say the usa, but whatever.

[@katiefaith5381]

So much peace and world Cooperation when DJT led this country...

[@robertdavidson9674]

Yeah, like when DJT twice sent 100 cruise missiles against Syria with no declaration of war killing innocent civilians - proven no gas attacks. Yeah, like when DJT did nothing to stop or slow U.S. civilian death toll of up to 1 million with our undeclared 20-year war in Iraq -- refusing to let civilians evacuate cities. Yeah, like when DJT broke the nuclear arms agreement with Iran after they got their impounded money back - only 20 or so U.S. bases surrounding Iran. Truly, Trump put Ghandi to shame.

[@dunexapa1016]

America's Commander in Chief is senile.

[@johnvillasenior2355]

Here Zelensky your hero Doug: kzbin.info/www/bejne/epTQqoiOrauGf68

[@ta3p-theannex3project84]

Al eastern europa countrys are manufactured. Conflicts are there if you want.

[@roberteckert]

If

[@israelmacario3853]

Bad take on this. Russian is the aggressor and what does him giving freedom to the orthodox church which is a false gospel have to do with this conflict. We are energy independent. At what cost would it take to get oil to Europe? That is why they buy from Russia.

[@GideonWallace]

"The" Ukraine...

[@michaelmaestri4071]

Russia did not invade Ukraine “hard”

[@miguelbayne4506]

Am I to understand from this video Doug is approving of the treatment of gay people and the way the topic of homosexuality in general is treated in Russia? Please clarify!

[@miguelbayne4506]

@@83c91 I mean, does he realize homosexuals in Russia fear for their lives? I guess that's ok as long as Putin is on the side of christians. Proof Doug and most christians truly don't care about the lives of gay people. They treat the topic of homosexuality almost like gays exist only in theory. It's always about "those people" who must suppress all romantic desires for their entire life.