The End of Globalization? | Doug Wilson

In this episode of Ask Doug, Pastor Doug Wilson discusses Peter Zeihan's book "The End of the World Is Just the Beginning: Mapping the Collapse of Globalization."
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[@jacobstaples8140]

Great to see a pastor who not only knows God's word, but it's also super practical and can address issues of the day. More pastors like Doug Wilson please! Thanks Doug for your wisdom and willingness to apply a Godly worldview to all of life.

[@williamnathanael412]

For me (a Southeast Asian), great to see a pastor who not only cares about practice and addresses the issues of the day, but also knows God's word. Here there are more pastors who likes to talk current events more than they like to talk Bible.

[@ChillAssTurtle]

Have any of you seen this guy get his back blown out by Christopher Hitchens? Non believers know more about the bible than this dork XD

[@SmoktimusPrime]

when an author I follow starts talking about another author I follow from a completely different domain, this is my clue to really pay attention

[@pyckiparen]

Amen

[@ryanprosper88]

Same! Been following both off and on for a few months now!

[@acortes7771]

"Man climbed down from the tree" - Doug Wilson. And this guy calls himself a Chrisitan. The end is coming soon!

[@pyckiparen]

@@acortes7771 ?

[@danscholl9972]

@@acortes7771 he's mocking the evolutionist

[@paulmcwhorter]

As a missionary permanently serving in East Africa, I was keenly interested in your commentary. You are spot on in what you are saying about the changing face of missions. We are already seeing instabilities on the ground here. On the need for mission boards to 'retool', part of it is those wanting to move to the mission field must be prepared for much more hardship than what has been seen in the past. The second part is mission boards need to refocus on building churches and church infrastructure that are sustainable with local resources. Constantly ask yourselves, if the ability to continue to send money for whatever reason ceases, how much of the work can continue and sustain itself? Will the indigenous pastor be able to sustain himself and keep the church open if support is no longer available? That is, build infrastructure that can sustain itself. Equip indigenous pastors be be bi-vocational. Rural churches do not need electronic sound systems. The landscape here is littered with well meaning projects that lasted only as long as foreign support continued. Great video as always.

[@mikebrabo7348]

Great insights. I’ve seen the same on other continents.

[@duncescotus2342]

Yep. Follow the old Spanish missions model and you'll be onto something. Teach them to make stuff, crafts, art, things to sell, things that they need. Farming, building, roads, wells, the list is long. And some, yes some a la the Free Burma Rangers need to teach them some arts of war. Too long the need was for converts, ears to hear, and hearts to bleed for doctrinal affirmation. Yeah, in fact, think of yourself as an immigrant who happens to be a Christian, rather than a missionary. It's so entitled.

[@tankiebot704]

instead of going abroad to convert people why not focus on your home nation? Christianity is dying in the west

[@duncescotus2342]

@@tankiebot704 Yes, the Africans will have to come and re-convert us soon. But there is some real boots on the ground poverty and education work that needs to be done in these places, which is a very legitimate calling to a Western man of God.

[@paulmcwhorter]

@@tankiebot704 I can answer that. In Africa I find tender hearts, open to the Gospel, and wanting to be discipled. Here people are enslaved by darkness, they hate it, and want you, through God's word and discipleship, to help them escape it. They no longer want the local witch doctor, and his dark powers to enslave them. In the US, I found people who loved the darkness, embraced it, and were consumed by it. Certainly I know that this is not universally true. In the US, yes, there were people whom I discipled, and I did see changed lives, yet my frustration was how few, even in the church, had any interest in truly learning Gods word, and truly being conformed to the Image of His son. Certainly Doug has a great thing going in Idaho, and would pray that could become a model of faith communities in more parts of the country. God bless.

[@leewilliams3014]

Read the book in June, and I took away much the same as Wilson. It is so easy to think that the material plenty we have been experiencing could never go away but the systems that brought it to us are not immortal.

[@bighands69]

Certain countries will be fine as they have everything they need, others will find it challenging and then there will be places that go through complete collapse. It is so sad when it can be seen what the potential of humans can really be when working hard.

[@justinhadley2583]

This excellently compliments Thomas Sowell's work in geography and the effect it has on history.

[@AdrienneJung.M]

This is so interesting...I love the variety of this channel

[@deadbod9306]

I love that Doug talks about this kind of stuff . I feel like a lot of pastors try not to get into this stuff and they should .

[@dominicgraham5310]

From what I've read from Peter Zeihan (which is not much - some of his first book) he doesn't understand a lot of history well and its causes - he tends to assume geography is always the cause, and doesn't understand how vital Christianity and belief is to the picture. His post-WWII explanation does have some interesting points. I'd say globalism as we've known it does seem to be ending, but the church needs its own godly thinking about the future - because following God - or not - is the key to a nation's future, far beyond geography (as Doug indicates with Venezuela as an example).

[@KalliBella1]

Thank you for this conversation/explanation. I'm inclined to think that ending globalization is a good thing even though it was good for lifting people out of poverty. Sadly, globalization turned into globalism in which a few are looking to rule over others. So, in that sense it is good to hinder them. May the Lord send His people to every nation and many open their eyes to His kingdom!

[@duncescotus2342]

Interesting distinction between "globalization" and "globalism." Care to elaborate. Also your name "Oly," I've only heard that once before, but it was spelled Ole, the infamous late anti-corruption crusader Ole Anthony.

[@KalliBella1]

@@duncescotus2342 Globalization is in a way the broadening of economic opportunities to all kinds of people who, with ability, training, and hard work would manage to stay away from poverty. Globalism is more a system seeking to manage economic activity with a more narrow purpose intended to amass power over others. It is in my mind a sort of tyranny not too dissimilar from other forms of tyrannies. Not being an expert in economics, I don't want to say more. However, I do read the Bible and it is from its pages that I have over the years arrived at my own convictions about this issue, and others. It's a spiritual issues as a tangible/material issue. By my comment above I meant to invoke the name of God Almighty to hinder the powers that seek to lord unfair and unconsented power over others. Oly is my nickname/family name.

[@duncescotus2342]

@@KalliBella1 Ok, good answer. Very good. Thanks and continued blessings of wisdom to you and yours in Christ.

[@KalliBella1]

@@duncescotus2342 Thank you. Blessings to you as well!

[@jasonponczoch4047]

Praise God for the both of you. Super compelling and definitely going to check those books out. I need to get back into reading anyway. Gonna share this with my pastor as well.

[@kylemcknight1775]

the reality of the world through the biblical lens is one of the many reasons I have so much respect for Doug and all God has done in Moscow. My wife and I have even considered becoming transplants to the city lol

[@georgeluke6382]

Thanks for sharing wisdom. Great stuff

[@ryanprosper88]

Interesting! Two of the big minds I've been following lately, Wilson and Zeihan, meet in a single video!

[@fredflintstone8048]

Luk 10:2 And he said to them, “The harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few. Therefore pray earnestly to the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into his harvest.

[@Shiloh3498]

Very interesting conversation. I'm going to be reading another book!

[@janpiet1530]

Very interesting conversation. Working in Supply Chain myself.

[@thewriterslens5689]

This is such an interesting discussion. America as the "Coast Guard" of the world post-WW II was very insightful. I had not considered that before but it makes sense in hindsight. Pretty powerful stuff.

[@ericp0012]

The idea of globalization ending is very interesting. I don’t think we are seeing the ending of globalization. But rather the beginning of globalization 4.0 or the 4th industrial revolution.

[@bighands69]

By ending it will have a new guise that will not be as productive or powerful.

[@treybarnes5549]

2008 I started preparing with food and water and Ammo and building defenses. I thought we were going to have a hard time getting things. I didn’t think we were going to lose our minds first. People are so crazy now there is nothing to save.

[@davidengelhardt]

I've been listening to Zeihan for a while. He seems incredibly logical and factually driven. Definitely a plausible future.

[@BrokTheLoneWolf]

Omgosh first 5 secs in, I’m currently reading this book as well. Wow.

[@coreymckeon1867]

I’ve followed Zeihan since 2016 and have trouble making out whether he’s a propagandist for the globalist elites or completely independent. He seems to have insider intel that would be hard to source without having solid connections. I put a decent amount of weight on his view either way because he’s been right a lot. I’d probably take him even more seriously if I knew absolutely that he was being fed talking points by the likes of WEF.

[@cydlovesmike]

He was interviewed on Dan Crenshaws page today and Dan Crenshaw is a WEF young global leader 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@bighands69]

What on earth does global elites even mean?

[@jasonhinkle4083]

@@cydlovesmike However, Crenshaw claims he isn't a WEF young global leader. 🤥

[@mxqi9858]

@@bighands69 A cabal.

[@danscholl9972]

I suspect that he was brought up in the globalist mindset, but he sees, and wants to say more, than he can and still be accepted in secular realms.

[@leewilliams3014]

Also not sure where to see what books Wilson is reading or to recommend, but Would love to hear his take on McCarraher’s Enchantments of Mammon.

[@lukedornon7799]

Never expected my Doug Wilson/Peter Zeihan interests to intersect....

[@kaylar3197]

Never underestimate Doug. 😄

[@LawlessNate]

The overall reasoning is right, that after WW2 the United States was in a unique position to take control, but the reasoning as to why we kept control is off in an important to understand way. It's an apocryphal notion that the US took control because of military might; it took control because of economic deception. I'll give a TL;DR at the very bottom of this comment after the long explanation. The US wasn't in that position just because we had a massive military and it wasn't because the war was fought overseas so the US homeland wasn't destroyed while Europe was. Those factors certainly played a part, but the largest, most important reason why the US was in that unique, favorable position is because much of Europe bought the supplies the US was supply with the gold they had stored up. At the end of WW2, the majority of the gold on the planet was owned by the US government. The US government issued US dollars that were supposedly backed by gold. US citizens couldn't trade their dollars for gold, but foreign countries' governments could. Also, other countries had their currencies tied to a fixed amount of US dollars, so by extension almost all currencies across the planet were tied to gold. Also, the US dollar was established as the world reserve currency. If one country wanted to buy or sell goods to another then those transactions were usually done in US dollars. After all, what would a Germany company do with French Franks received from selling goods to a French company? Most countries doing international business in US dollars created massive, artificial demand for US dollars. If you wanted to purchase goods from somewhere outside of your country then you needed to obtain US dollars somehow. The US government then then proceeded to print more currency than it had gold to back it up. This tricked other countries in to producing more goods and services to then send to the United States than the United States actually had real money to pay for it. Other countries started to catch on to the scam, and there's actually a video of a French president from a long time ago explaining the situation very well on national television. Foreign countries then started to cash-in their US dollars in the sense that they went to the US and said "if 35 US dollars is worth X amount of gold then here is Y amount of US dollars and I'd like the gold instead". During this time, the US's gold reserves were drained by about half until 1971 when Nixon officially and "temporarily" (but really permanently) ended the ability of foreign countries to exchange US dollars for US gold reserves. This also, by extension, made pretty much all currencies across the globe go from being loosely tied to gold to being purely fiat currency that's backed by absolutely nothing. This is also why inflation more or less wasn't that much of a thing prior to 1971, but then after 1971 inflation exploded and has proceeded to explode ever since. The US dollar being the world reserve currency is what gave the United States the tremendous amount of wealth that is has now. The US dollar is currency in the process of losing world reserve currency status and it has been for decades. This process has recently been accelerated with certain global macro-economic happenings like the US dollar being weaponized against Russia, and corresponding trade agreements between various countries (China, Russia, India, etc) that intentionally bypassing the US dollar and certain infrastructure like SWIFT. The less the US dollar is used as the global reserve currency the less demand there will be for it. The less demand there is for the US dollar means the US will not be able to give away as many worthless scraps of cloth and/or 0s and 1s in a computer in exchange for real goods and services, because those people producing the real goods and services overseas will be trading those goods and services to other nations that will provide something real in return. TL;DR: The US became the empire it is because of the fiat US dollar being the world reserve currency. As the US dollar loses that status, which it is in the process of doing right now, the less prosperous this nation will be. Instead of us giving fundamentally worthless US dollars to other countries in exchange for their real goods and services, The US will have no foreign goods and/or services and instead be stuck with our fundamentally worthless US dollars.

[@Tappedline]

And Russia has Oil, Land and Gold, and a Church that is growing. One more thing it does not promote L G B T XY Z

[@Mr_Fairdale]

I don’t see the dollar losing reserve status anytime soon. What takes its place?

[@davmatheophilus159]

@@Mr_Fairdale The national currencies of each individual nation maybe?

[@ArtsCraftsAntiquity]

I feel like I’ve read this before. At the same time I have to wonder if the US accepted war bonds for all the goods they were producing, I used to think China was deceptive and maybe they are, by using the bonds they got from the purchase of US debt, to invest in the western stock market. This is how China has had such an economic since 2008.

[@ArtsCraftsAntiquity]

@@Mr_Fairdale cryptocurrency. The WEF banks want global cryptocurrency, Maxine Waters and an SC rep just introduced a bill for a U.S. cryptocurrency, both ideas are laughable and ridiculous since they go against the point of crypto which is having a noncentralized currency, relying on decentralized blockchain technology to have peer to peer exchanges of currency.

[@kate60]

Handsome haircut. Good conversation.

[@gearbarrel6237]

Timeframe that this might Transpire??? Thank you 🙏🏻

[@hakujyan]

Haven't seen Wade in a while! Must be very busy up there in Moscow

[@raquelaguiar2397]

I know I'm a little off-topic here, but what a beautiful shirt Doug's wearing!

[@billhesford6098]

We are speaking of a billion or two dying, but the shirt is definitely worth a plug.

[@kristianbennett941]

Thanks to your video on Zeihan I have been reading his work which is why when Jordan Peterson posted an interview last week with Michael Yon on the possibility of a widespread food and energy shortage in Europe and around the world due to the hostilities with Russia and resulting lack of food from Ukraine which provides a substantial part of the grain consumed by Europe and the world at large. That combined with Holland’s shuddering of the their farm production and insufficient oil and natural gas for heating, transportation and fertilizer for the coming year of farming in their estimation will lead to deglobalization. Have you heard this interview and if so what do you think about? Would you be open to sharing your thoughts on it in a future video? Thank so much for time and insight!

[@ButGOD-Eph2.1-10]

There is much about this. Here is a channel and sights articles from around the world so you'll have plenty of resources to check out... Michael Mc Coy Ward

[@ButGOD-Eph2.1-10]

@Renee *'Here's the link. I got his name wrong. It's Neil McCoy-Ward Blessings kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4W0hKd9bLF6d7M

[@wishuhadmyname]

I wonder how many books Zeihan has sold because of Doug Wilson. I'd love to see a conversation between these two

[@helmsscotta]

Zeihan is way too cocky to mesh well with Wilson. I listen to Zeihan a lot, but I do recognize some of his drawbacks.

[@EternalDiet]

The recommendation of Peter’s book is on spot and timely. Never heard of him but looking forward to my exposure to his somewhat eschatological perspective.

[@chasefoster8092]

Is that the guy that did one of Steven Crowders joke skits? The polite racist? Lol it was hilarious. If it's not him it looks just like him. Glasses and all!

[@acolchad83]

Thought he looked familiar!

[@the32712]

No, just looks like him. Zeihan is a lot skinnier than Crowder's guy there.

[@getbucker11]

Audio Wade!

[@harposhizzle]

If you're worried about a crisis, start with being ready for a 1 week power outage. Having a generator set up, a non-electric heat source, and a non-electric cooking option is not a huge project. Doing a little, is much better than nothing at all.

[@Jazzshadow2]

Is the fact about the rivers accurate, because Google says China has 3x as many rivers as the us.

[@BoronBobcat]

Excellent summary of the book. I'm in the middle of reading it as we speak. One of the factors it (the book) seems to lack is the effect of Ideology. But the other factors may have a great effect. I found the most interesting parts were about how weak China is and will be.

[@danscholl9972]

I think he purposely tried to be ideologically ambiguous, so as to not "piss off 50% of his readers." My gut feeling after reading his book was that he used to be a Globalist, but now realizes the follies involved... he just can't be too overt in expressing these feelings .... yet.

[@godsson491]

The stage is set and the man of sin is about to be revealed....

[@billhesford6098]

Nero.

[@cpjorgeeduardopenajimenez6373]

Yeah, to considere it seriously

[@smacd1978]

I think I'll try and read the book. But makes me a bit skeptical of his geopolitical expertise if he said that US has over half of worlds navigable waterways. I can't believe that's even close to accurate but maybe I'm wrong. Going to look into that considering it would be important to his argument.

[@josephkoon2727]

In my searching, it looks like China has roughly 79,000 miles of navigable waterways, while the US has only 25,000.

[@smacd1978]

@@josephkoon2727 Thanks for sharing, I found similar. US consistently ranked 5 in world behind China, Russia, Brazil & Vietnam (surprise). I wish Zeihan would list sources in his books. He makes this claim in both Accidental Superpower (with more specifics) and End of the World. Guessing he differentiates from the normal use of term navigable to get there.

[@bighands69]

Navigable waterways means those that can take commercial scale not some small river with a few boats on it. The US waterways can service from the top of America to the bottom and reach from the east coast to west. China does not have a water system that can service its whole country nor even between its major centres.

[@caseycampbell1]

There are a lot of missing things here: what about the large amounts of land other countries are buying here? What about a one world government as described in the bible? What about our allies overseas? What about the fact that we get massive amounts of goods from China? What about exports? What about a massive amount of American money overseas in investments and such? What about the internet? We are literally tied now to other countries in every way via the internet. Seeing so much going towards globalization, I'm not sure how it could falter.

[@KennethSee]

Doug is a Post-Millenialist he doesn't believe in a "one world government" nor a tribulation period.

[@rickyrodriguez5744]

CANE’S and Doug.

[@pdd60absorbed12]

Dismissing Russia and PRC is naive. Arsenal's speak louder than words.

[@Aviewofmyworld]

First 😊😊😊😊 Love your channel Doug!!!!!

[@slimpickens0000]

I think that we have all the more reason to think that an invasion of some sort or a Cyber attack that would make us vulnerable for an invasion could be possible because of how well suited we are to do well in the potential coming blunders of the downfall of globalization.

[@bighands69]

The US is extremely difficult to invade. There is no one hack that can take down the US defense system. There are no countries for that have the naval ability to deliver troops to the US. Texas has about 20000 national guard which is more than most european countries have as a national full time defence force. The US air national guard would be able to repel any naval invasion force never mind the tens of millions of Americans that have guns that would be a sniper behind every blade of grass.

[@gbear34]

There is still the matter of 500 million (give or take 50 million) guns in civilian hands that would make a successful invasion very difficult. No power? Great, now the civilians are hungry and angry and still have their guns. Granted, such a massive disruption would also cause Americans (who have not known real difficulty) to turn on each other to some degree.

[@anaquaduck5252]

Its not like Joseph 'prepared' for old Egypt. But I get what you are saying. The ability to improvise in terms of food & safety is an important thing to consider (as preppers do). WW2 changed the landscape of immigration & business. I guess corporate business do this all the time when it comes to competition, politics and wars. There are pros & cons to everything, even a nations geographic situation. Much like material wealth or even medicine, that can be a blessing or a curse.

[@mountaingirl8124]

So, then what about Klaus Schwab's 4th Industrial Revolution? Does this go out the window then?

[@4beam747]

Great question, it could be the Great Reset is an attempt to diverge or possibly avoid the expected (beneficial outcomes) outcomes of this plausible de-globalization.

[@timbushong4387]

"Dentistry." My man... or rather, "my men."

[@dre6289]

In this post globalist America, what skills should I sharpen, or what career should I get into that would be best fit for survival in that environment.

[@bighands69]

It depends on what age you are and your intellect. Are you gifted educationally, do you gravitate towards making things or do you prefer to run technical systems. There are many things you can do that will have value in the world. Take medicine for example it will always been needed so anybody in that field will be required by society but a Plumber is also an important skill because how are people to have sanitary and heating systems in their homes. America is going to start retooling its manufacturing and the process has already begun so if you are an entrepreneurial type there can be advantages to be made.

[@ghytd766]

And trucks, 145 miles/ton/gal

[@Steblu74]

Revelation chapter 13 is not a picture of globalism? But then, Mr. Wilson is a Preterist . .

[@BossBattle21]

The theories sound as plausible as a Civ VI AI game.

[@kelletttothechad]

Was the petro dollar overlooked here? 👀 We supply defense for Saudi oil fields while they have to exchange in 💵 which creates continued demand for Federal Reserve Notes & allows the Fed to hit print & keeps $US from washing ashore. Seems big to me, but perhaps not as important as geography.

[@traviscrooks7038]

I’m still leaning towards things are going to get more globalized

[@ter8330]

The economies are bifurcating. The East is rising, the West is collapsing, right now.

[@TheSergio1021]

I normally dont buy books (terrible, I know), but this... this has very extremely intrigued.

[@jenniferherb5212]

Can anyone who read the book let me know how he thinks Australia will fair?

[@bighands69]

Australia has everything it needs to do well. What it decides to do is an entirely different things. Australia has the ability to project far into the pacific and be a joint force with the US. What Australia needs to do is to become a manufacturing nation as it has all the raw ingredients.

[@rosefortheKing]

The movie "Captain Phillips" is a solid micro example of what's being talked about. When the US Navy shows up in it, they're the ones one would want on their side.

[@RGBNeves]

I honestly don’t see how Brazil could cease to be LatAm hegemon (historically Chile has been more of a formidable opponent regionally Argentina)…

[@JasonJrake]

Even more than with geography, P. Zeihan is a “demographic determinist.” The U.S., France, and Australia are the only highly industrialized countries whose baby-boomer generation had anything close to replacement-levels of children: millennials. He believes this to be a big long term predictor of economic direction, for a dozen reasons worth reading the book to consider. More short term, the Ukrain-Russia war has stopped export of a avery large percentage of the world’s grain and fertilizer market, as well as threatened the industrial 🏭 electric supply of Germany, Europe’s largest economy. China, and many parts of Africa (North and South of the Sahara) rely heavily on imported food and fertilizer. This is a potential ministry opportunity for churches with the willingness and expertise to bring sustainable agriculture to those areas.

[@gustavoabreu3097]

9:41 every time I hear that argentina will be a superpower I cringe maybe it's my brazilian bias 🤣

[@baswenmakers6846]

Resource wars do not seem to be the driver. It is the result. The real driver seems to be ideological or even religious. Only when you become corrupted do you steal other people's stuff, or convince yourself that they stole it from the rightful owner, which is always, magically, you.

[@Vitlaus]

Peter Zion: ironic name for such a corporate stooge.

[@alstroemeria227again4]

The last name is Zeihan.

[@jlettizard6465]

I listened to Michael Yon on the Jordan Peterson podcast the other day and he estimates with almost 100% certainty the famines will wipe out over a billion people on the African continent in the very near future. That’s horrifying.

[@rexrobo2512]

It's the end of the world as we know it, it's the end of the world as we know it, And I feel.....erm....

[@marshalllucky7020]

Shades of tribulations with America absent

[@Zxuma]

It is stupid to think China wouldn't exist or be a hegemon. Countries. are too resourceful now to just wish or soothsay away.

[@spencerroyal4109]

Don't go overboard. The Church is worldwide and should place His Kingdom number one in mind. Avoid placing local culture as a priority, since truth is location independent and works cross culture, just like the Lord's word and His kingdom.

[@youtubeisdying929]

ok globalist

[@charlesfeltham8528]

Hey maybe if doug could put on the correct theological eyeglasses he would recognize that america just happens to fit so well with Revelation 18 and mystery babylon. What do you think world trade is all about.

[@Mr_Fairdale]

Very good summary of the Zeihan’s latest. Hard to see China making it much longer. Maybe they can pull off a miracle with their soy and rice in Hainan but that still leaves an energy issue that seems like death knell currently.

[@JenniferoftheSea]

If China falls so will we and vice versa. Mutually assured destruction, economically speaking.

[@Mr_Fairdale]

@@JenniferoftheSea that’s far from a certainty. We don’t food or energy from overseas. Mexico and Canada have nearly everything we can’t get from home. China has lost a lot of manufacturing to neighboring countries like Vietnam. Semiconductors are huge in Taiwan but the designs come from the USA and we’re investing in making them in Texas in the future. The machinery that makes them is produced in the Netherlands. Bottom line is that China is an importer and not an exporter like most assume.

[@riders.oregon4474]

What will happen to a country that kills most of it’s female babies? Population decline.

[@alstroemeria227again4]

I have to see it to believe it. Steel, coal, lots of manufacturing. And once they get Taiwan back, I can’t see their power fading. If China does fall, I wonder if that will benefit Christians living under persecution over there.

[@Mr_Fairdale]

@@alstroemeria227again4 Chinese steel sucks. Just a fact. And coal? They import that. Once they get Taiwan back? Everyone thought Russia would steamroll Ukraine in a few days or weeks. Invading Taiwan would be the largest amphibious assault since D Day. Going over water makes this invasion multitudes more difficult. And don’t forget about economic sanctions. If the rest of rhe world bands together to cut out China from the world economy like we just did with Russia, it would be crushing for China. And they know it and can’t do much about it.

[@mountaingirl8124]

It doesn't appear that Peter Zeihan is a believer either. He's not taking the Bible into account, so why should we listen to him? I'm not saying we shouldn't take into account others' thoughts, but the end of the world is a pretty big idea, so why would we listen to an athiest?

[@betrion7]

Uncle Doug, do try fasting.

[@martinrea8548]

The guy's name is Zion ffs!

[@LoftOfTheUniverse]

Poland is pretty based. I'd hate to see it fall. This looks more like pre millennialism, if there's 10 hegemonies (10 kings) who give their power to the beast...

[@whatcameofgrace]

I trust dougs opinion more than my own - is that bad?

[@owenduck]

Everyone needs a mentor.

[@BrandonGray]

Only if you knew who America was in the Bible.

[@aqqibabs]

Friend, I don't understand why you keep coming back if all you do is disagree... why not watch Arminian pastors who hate America? That's what you like so go ahead.

[@BrandonGray]

@@aqqibabs Who said I hate America? America is a blessed nation by God. God will rescue them in the end.

[@gideon4773]

@@BrandonGray not sure why you think God will rescue them in the end. He's rescued those who believe in Him and keep His word, those who hate Him will perish, which is why we have to stay in constant prayer and endure until the end.

[@BrandonGray]

@@gideon4773 I agree that we have to endure to the end but know this mystery, that the lands which are now Christian were promised to Abraham and his seed, that is Christ. So then Israel is no longer captive to the land of Israel which you now know to be physical Israel but know that Israel has spread out from east to west and from north to south in the person of Jesus Christ. Therefore, it is Jesus, through His body who are ruling on earth and Christ the Head. And the inheritance's which were given to Jacob's son's are fulfilled in Israel, that is in Christ.

[@blacksheepbear6382]

Lol… “we” I don’t think “we” did anything… our media did.

[@raquelrobaert]

Argentina is doing almost as bad as Venezuela this part of this conversation and the argument it just doesn't make any sense.

[@gideon4773]

when man reasons about future events without revelation it's inevitable that there will be hosts of inaccuracies; it's actually sad to see this book being endorsed.

[@TimeToFlush]

Who builds civilizations? Not everyone. Geography determines a lot but does it determine more than race? Western Civ still has 1000 year old building standing despite the geography. This assertion about the role of geography is limited and appears to be a distraction in my opinion. Some people represent less than 2% of their occupation in countries yet control up to 70% of media, government, education, banking, etc. They don't count on geography controlling what they want to do. Rather they control what they want you to think - like look at geography while they take your country out from underneath you. We each have a responsibility to preserve and protect our family and race. Jesus put His ahead of others. When God sought to revive His people in the Old Testament He always had them separate from other races. Geography was secondary. If Gen 1:27 can be used to preserve God's intent for male and female, then can Gen 10:4; 11:8 be used to restore His intent for nations? Is there a strong natural order we fight against when we don't?

[@epicofgilgamesh9964]

*The Enuma Elish would later be the inspiration for the Hebrew scribes who created the text now known as the biblical Book of Genesis.* Prior to the 19th century CE, the Bible was considered the oldest book in the world and its narratives were thought to be completely original. In the mid-19th century CE, however, European museums, as well as academic and religious institutions, sponsored excavations in Mesopotamia to find physical evidence for historical corroboration of the stories in the Bible. ***These excavations found quite the opposite, however, in that, once cuneiform was translated, it was understood that a number of biblical narratives were Mesopotamian in origin.*** *Famous stories such as the Fall of Man and the Great Flood were originally conceived and written down in Sumer,* translated and modified later in Babylon, and reworked by the Assyrians ***before they were used by the Hebrew scribes for the versions which appear in the Bible.*** ***In revising the Mesopotamian creation story for their own ends, the Hebrew scribes tightened the narrative and the focus but retained the concept of the all-powerful deity who brings order from chaos.*** Marduk, in the Enuma Elish, establishes the recognizable order of the world - *just as God does in the Genesis tale* - and human beings are expected to recognize this great gift and honor the deity through service. Google *"Enuma Elish - The Babylonian Epic of Creation - Full Text - World History Encyclopedia"* Also discussed by Professor Christine Hayes at Yale University in her first lecture of the series on the Hebrew Bible from 8:50 to 14:30 minutes and lecture 3 from 38:15 to 41:35 minutes. From a Biblical scholar: "Many stories in the ancient world have their origins in other stories and were borrowed and modified from other or earlier peoples. *For instance, many of the stories now preserved in the Bible are* ***modified*** *versions of stories that existed in the cultures and traditions of Israel’s* ***older*** *contemporaries.* Stories about the creation of the universe, a cataclysmic universal flood, digging wells as land markers, the naming of important cultic sites, gods giving laws to their people, and even stories about gods decreeing the possession of land to their people were all part of the cultural and literary matrix of the ancient Near East. *Biblical scribes freely* ***adopted and modified*** *these stories as a means to express their own identity, origins, and customs."* *"Stories from the Bible"* by Dr Steven DiMattei, from his website *"Biblical Contradictions"* ------------------------------------------------------------------ In addition, look up the below articles. *"Debunking the Devil - Michael A. Sherlock (Author)"* *"10 Ways The Bible Was Influenced By Other Religions - Listverse"* *"Top Ten Reasons Noah’s Flood is Mythology - The Sensuous Curmudgeon"* *"The Adam and Eve myth - News24"* *"Are The Ten Commandments Based On The Forty-Two Principles Of Maat That Appeared 2,000 Years Earlier? - Ancient Pages"* *"Before Adam and Eve - Psychology Today"* *"Gilgamesh vs. Noah - Wordpress"* *"No, Humans Are Probably Not All Descended From A Single Couple Who Lived 200,000 Years Ago"* *"Adam & Eve: Theologians Try to Reconcile Science and Fail - The New Republic"* *"Adam and Eve: the ultimate standoff between science and faith (and a contest!) - Why Evolution Is True"* *"Bogus accommodationism: The return of Adam and Eve as real people, as proposed by a wonky quasi-scientific theory - Why Evolution Is True"* *"How many scientists question evolution? - **sciencemeetsreligion.org**"* *"What is the evidence for evolution? - Common-questions - BioLogos"* (A Christian organisation) *"Why scientists dismiss 'intelligent design' - Science"* *"Old Testament Tales Were Stolen From Other Cultures - Griffin"* *"Parallelism between “The Hymn to Aten” and Psalm 104 - Project Augustine"* *"Contradictions in the Bible | Identified verse by verse and explained using the most up-to-date scholarly information about the Bible, its texts, and the men who wrote them -- by Dr. Steven DiMattei"* *"How do we know that the biblical writers were* ***not*** *writing history? -- by Dr Steven DiMattei"*

[@epicofgilgamesh9964]

*Let's briefly run through the 'ten plagues':* First the rivers are turned to blood, all the fish die and the waters stink. No one has any water to drink. This lasted for seven days and would have resulted in mass deaths due to dehydration. Amongst the first to die would have been the children. *The author doesn't think to explain how the Hebrews were saved from this. No record of it was made anywhere in any Egyptian records.* Exodus 7:17-25. This is followed by a plague of frogs which had somehow survived the rivers of blood that had killed all the fish. A mere inconvenience, nothing more, and a big stink when they all died, *but no record anywhere.* Exodus 8:2-13. Next we have the plague of lice about which very little is said *and of course no record was made.* To a people who would have been accustomed to lice this would probably have been nothing remarkable. Exodus 8:16-18. Then the flies. Apart from the land being 'corrupted', whatever that means, there don't appear to have been any ill effects from this and they disappear as quickly as they came a few days later. *Nothing worth recording there, obviously.* Exodus 8:21-31. Now the author seems to begin to lose the plot and describes a 'grievous murrain' *which kills all the Egyptians' cattle, horses, camels and sheep.* ***They all died - hold that thought.*** *No Egyptian historian or keeper of official records deems it worthy of mention.* Exodus 9:3-6. Next come the boils which afflict everyone and everything, including all the livestock ***even though they had been killed by the 'grievous murrain' a few days earlier,*** *apparently, and yet no-one thought to write anything down anywhere.* Of course, anyone who understood anything about microorganisms and the aeteology of boils would have described this as an infestation with Staphylococcus - the signs of faecal contamination - but the author was obviously unaware of these. Maybe he was just in too much of a muddle by now to care. Exodus 9:8-11. Now it's hailstones so bad that every plant, every tree, every servant (for servant read slave) ***and even the livestock (that our story-teller has forgotten already that he killed off in the fifth plague before given them boils in the sixth) were harmed.*** It looks like our story-teller has learned from his earlier silly mistake with killing all the livestock too soon then having to resurrect them later. He mentions that some plants survive. Do I smell stinking fish again? *The greatest hail storm in all Egyptian history, apparently, but not worthy of being recorded.* Exodus 9:18-25. It's the turn of the locusts and it's suddenly obvious why some plants had to survive. *How could the locusts turn Egypt into a barren desert if the hail storm had done it earlier?* Good thinking there. Shame about the earlier boob! *Mysteriously, no Egyptian scribe appears to notice any of this or the inevitable famine and mass starvation which would have ensued.* Exodus 10:4-15. And for the penultimate trick, it's going to be dark for three days. *No one makes a record of this, obviously.* Exodus 10:21-23. The last 'plague' is not so much a plague as a ritual genocide. *Here our tale takes a nasty turn and the true character of the Hebrew god is revealed in all its glory - a petty, vindictive, homicidal psychopath who has not yet acquired the omniscience he will be granted later. He kills every firstborn Egyptian in a single night,* ***including the firstborn of all the cattle that died in the fifth plague.*** *For some reason he needs the Hebrews to leave a secret sign so he doesn't kill them too. Weirdly, he can't tell his own chosen people from ordinary Egyptians and doesn't even know where they live.* And he had been leading up to this, apparently, because after every plague he 'hardens the heart' of Pharaoh so that he wouldn't let the Hebrews go. He had actually been planning this genocide all along just to impress people with his powers. *And still no-one thought even this mass killing in a single night worth making a note of in any Egyptian records.* Exodus 12:1-30. And then, of course, Pharaoh could muster up 600 horses to pull the chariots ***from amongst all the dead livestock from the 5th plague*** (Exodus 14:7). Google *"Rosa Rubicondior: Origins Of The Exodus Myth"* ------------------------------------------------------------------ In addition, look up the below articles. *"Debunking Christianity: PATTERNS OF POOR RESEARCH- A Critique of Patterns of Evidence:Exodus"* *"For you were (not) slaves in Egypt: The ancient memories behind the Exodus myth - Archaeology - **Haaretz.com**"* *"Why the Exodus Story Has Value Despite Being Complete Myth - Psychology Today Australia"* *"Is the Exodus a Myth? - Worlds Beyond"* *"Historicity of Exodus and Moses - The Creatively Maladjusted"* *"Biblical Contradiction #81. When did the Exodus allegedly happen: during the reign of Rameses II (1279-1213 BC) OR in 1447 BC?"* *"Ten Reasons Why the Bible’s Story of the Exodus is Not True - by Tim Zeak - ExCommunications - Medium"* *"Why Moses Did Not Write the Torah - Thomas Shoemaker"* *"Sargon the Great and Moses - The Word of Me… Wordpress"* *"Contradictions in the Bible | Identified verse by verse and explained using the most up-to-date scholarly information about the Bible, its texts, and the men who wrote them -- by Dr. Steven DiMattei"* *"How do we know that the biblical writers were* ***not*** *writing history? -- by Dr Steven DiMattei"*

[@felixayala05]

Seems Pastor Doug went to a barber school to get a free cut.

[@tbe0116]

There’s no end to conservative leaning Christian’s who get drawn into apocalyptic predictions once they past 60. Must be a retirement thing.

[@ArtsCraftsAntiquity]

That’s not what this was about. You missed the entire point of the book review.

[@the32712]

Nothing apocalyptic about a change in global trade and a return to early 1900s type trade.

[@alstroemeria227again4]

But isn’t Doug a postmillenialist? They don’t believe the world is going to end like premillennialists do.

[@bighands69]

The world is about to change and people just need to accept that. It does not mean the end of the world it means change.

[@loeweal5641]

For me that rather sound like MAGA book because the whole interview gave me no proof to believe that globalisation anytime soon.

[@donmoss568]

Thls is wierd to say the least.

[@tjkhan4541]

This is completely off topic, but Wilson needs a new barber.

[@epicofgilgamesh9964]

"When we say…Jesus Christ…was produced without sexual union, and was crucified and died, and rose again, and ascended to heaven, ***we propound nothing new or different*** *from what you believe regarding those whom you call Sons of God. [In fact]…if anybody objects that [Jesus] was crucified, this is in* ***common*** *with the sons of Zeus (as you call them) who suffered, as previously listed [he listed Dionysus, Hercules, and Asclepius].* Since their fatal sufferings are all narrated as not similar but different, so his unique passion should not seem to be any worse." *Note how Justin (Martyr) is less of a fool than modern Christian apologists. He admits that differences don’t matter.* Since each and every one of the suffering and dying gods are slain by different means, one cannot argue the mytheme requires exactly the same means of death. “But Osiris can’t have inspired the Jesus myth because Osiris wasn’t nailed to a cross” is a stupid argument. The mytheme is simply death. Being killed. Suffering and dying. The exact mode of death can vary freely. It makes no difference to the existence and influence of the mytheme. It’s simply the particular instantiation of a generic abstraction. *And Justin’s argument (that Satan invented these fake religions to confuse people) entails Justin agreed the mytheme existed: indeed, it was demonically promulgated, multiple times. Intentionally.* *Likewise, Justin notices the mytheme is not virgin birth, but sexless conception. Of which many examples had already been popularized in pagan mythology (there just happens to also have been examples of actual virgin born gods as well). And by his argument (that the Devil was deliberately emulating the Jesus mytheme, in advance), Justin clearly accepted the same principle for “rising again” after death:* the particular exact metaphysics of the resurrection could, like the exact method of death or conception, vary freely. The mytheme consists solely of the abstraction: returning to life. Somehow. Some way. We will say bodily, at the very least. But what sort of body (the same one, a new one, a mortal one, an immortal one), didn’t matter. *If it had, Justin would have made the argument that “those gods” weren’t really resurrected. But that argument, never occurs to him. Nor did it to any other apologist of the first three centuries.* *Ancient Christians well knew there was nothing new about their dying-and-rising god. Not in respect to the mytheme.* Their claims were solely that his particular instantiation of it was better, and the only one that actually happened. *They didn’t make up the stupid modern arguments that dying-and-rising god myths didn’t exist or weren’t part of a common mytheme everyone knew about. For example, in the same century, Tertullian, in Prescription against Heretics 40, makes exactly the same argument as Justin. Funny that. They had better access to the evidence than we do. They knew what was really and widely the case. We should listen to them.* Google *"Dying-and-Rising Gods: It's Pagan, Guys. Get Over It. • Richard Carrier"* ------------------------------------------------------------------ In addition, look up the below articles. *"Ehrman Errs: Yes, Bart, There Were Dying & Rising Gods - atheologica"* Watch *"Dying & Rising Gods: A Response to William Lane Craig"* by Derreck Bennett at Atheologica. *"The First Easters: Death and Resurrection Before Christ | atheologica"* *"The Christs Before Christ: Tammuz-Adonis | atheologica"* Watch *"Asclepius: The Pre-Christian Healer & Savior"* by Derreck Bennett at Atheologica *"Virgin Birth: It's Pagan, Guys. Get Over It. • Richard Carrier"* *"5 Pagan Parallels to Jesus That Actually Aren’t Bullshit - Atheomedy"* *"Christian Apologetics: The Art of Deceit - Atheomedy"* *"Isaiah 53 & the Suffering Servant | atheologica"* *"Defending the Resurrection: It’s Easy if You Lie! - Atheomedy"* *"Rising Gods, Pagan Parallels, and Cultural Context: A Response to M. David Litwa | atheologica"* *"An Evidence Attested Resurrection? - chromosome two"* *"The Empty Tomb: A Rhetorical Dead End - atheologica"* *"Theological Dodgeball: On the Posturing of Faith over Reason | atheologica"* *"Majority of Scholars agree: The Gospels were not written by Eyewitnesses - Escaping Christian Fundamentalism"* A good site written by an actual Biblical scholar. *"Contradictions in the Bible | Identified verse by verse and explained using the most up-to-date scholarly information about the Bible, its texts, and the men who wrote them -- by Dr. Steven DiMattei"* *"How do we know that the biblical writers were* ***not*** *writing history? -- by Dr Steven DiMattei"* Also: *"How Did The Gospel Writers Know? - The Doston Jones Blog"* *"Yes, the Four Gospels Were Originally Anonymous: Part 1 - The Doston Jones Blog"* *"Are Stories in the Bible Influenced by Popular Greco-Roman Literature? - The Doston Jones Blog"* *"Gospels Not Written By Matthew, Mark, Luke or John - The Church Of Truth"*

[@ChillAssTurtle]

The notion of global solidarity scares christians as much as it did their false deity.

[@jameswatts2338]

It doesn't scare us at all it just proves that the prophecies in the Bible are true that there will be a one world government a one more religion whom the man of sin will take over and rule for 7 years. We look forward to the fact that these things are happening because it means the coming of Our Lord is soon.

[@ChillAssTurtle]

@@jameswatts2338 pretty much every prophecy failed to come true.. you obviously havent read the bible, please return when you have.

[@ChillAssTurtle]

@@jameswatts2338 the bronze age war god of ancient palestine yawheh.. your god.. murdered everyone and made it impossible for them to communicate with one another.. not for being evil or doing immoral stuff.. he was upset that they wouldnt need to rely on him, he was afraid an organized humankind would actually murder him.. this god thought humans could end his life* so he freaked out and did even more genocide XD

[@AustrianDuration]

Wilson, Peter Zeihan is flat out wrong.