Uli Goes Off About Putting On The Disc Golf Pro Tour

[@michaelfontanarosa8161]

I'm with Uli 100% on this. There is a reason why professional golfers in ball golf putt gently closer to the hole then they putt further from the hole. Because the ball won't drop if you fire it over the hole at a 100mph. Same is true and reasonable in disc golf. The closer you get to the hole/basket the more touch/finesse is required. Physics.

[@rfinnegan7106]

Yup, touch should matter! Distance control.

[@DiscGolfDemastus]

This isn’t ball golf. We have to quit comparing this sport to golf, just because we borrowed the scoring system.

[@mattlaberge3130]

@@DiscGolfDemastuswhy can’t they be compared?

[@Buttonmasher12]

We’re comparing it to ball golf because it takes touch and it’s a learned skill. If you take the touch out of putting slope of greens doesn’t really matter and putting in golf becomes significantly easier. I don’t think baskets should catch everything thrown at them. The goal is to come to rest in the bottom of the baskets, chains are just an aid.

[@DiscGolfDemastus]

@@mattlaberge3130 the differences in possible throw angles compared to a hit ball’s angle are vastly different. So each athlete’s capability off the tee is different. The putting IS different. We don’t have to make it like golf, just because golf is in the name. We have rare opportunity, with a budding sport, to make it our own. We don’t have to try to make it a carbon copy of another sport.

[@cosmolean]

If the basket meets regulation and isn't damaged or defective in any way stfu and make the putt. The variety is part of the uniqueness of historic courses and the beauty of the game.

[@DayDayBear14]

I agree. You’re on the pro tour. Everyone wants a standardized basket. But let’s be real here, learn how to putt on a different basket. Not every course is the same and that goes with basket. Yes there should be a standard size but if some need more touch and less speed than other baskets. Welp learn it. As a fan and spectator, it makes it interesting when these guys have spit outs because they putt so hard. Keep the sport interesting.

[@ctb297]

I think it adds to the drama to have different baskets, put different ones on every hole. The difference between a old Innova 24 and the newer 28 is enough to make you switch from a soft plastic to a hard one or putt softer. The greens on a course need added elements to create excitement and placing a basket that is known not to catch like a MACH 3 at elevation is completely different than a chain star pro. The blame is on Gannon for not adapting. Experience helps overcome any basket.

[@Broken_Pixels]

Paul out here spitting facts. Love it

[@shanesaunders6156]

ulis right. Touch is a skill

[@alley8503]

I like how disc golf is one of the rare sports that still uses an array of “goal posts” Not many other sports offer the nuances that different baskets bring to disc golf That being said, wouldn’t be offended if pro tour had their own standard basket

[@chewitt608]

Not all Premiere League soccer pitches are the same size. Different baskets are part of the game. Not all golf greens play at the same speed. Standardizing them would maybe fix an issue, but nobody will agree on which basket is the one. This is my opinion of course.

[@DiscGolfDemastus]

Baseball fields are all different sizes in the MLB.

[@nickthompson1812]

Different baskets is part of capitalism. Time to set a standard, we don’t need 10 companies with their own baskets across the pro tour.

[@nickthompson1812]

@@DiscGolfDemastus are 1st and 2nd different distances? Courses are different too, but the bases, the foul lines, the strike zone is the same. I need some consistency.

[@curtisridenour]

This is true ​@@chewitt608. But the cup is always the same size. The greens in disc golf always vary just like golf. But the repository of the disc should be the same. That being said, Uli is correct. Learn the skill of touch if you don't want spit outs.

[@mikiah530]

Personally, I’m anti-standardized baskets. Why make it easier for pros who routinely shoot -12 by standardizing baskets? If you’re a pro, you should know how any given basket is going to react and adjust accordingly.

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

Yeah I agree. I like the difference in the baskets. It’s a unique perk of disc golf.

[@ztsb_koneko]

Especially when people act like high left spitouts are crazy. Or steep hyzer slipping through the chains, or getting bounce back from the pole with too flat disc angle. The goal is not to hit the space between the band and the cage, the goal is to stop and rest the disc in the basket.

[@eoghana315]

Uli is 100% right. If you think Veterans are trash then go play on Mach 3's. I've had spit outs on new Discatchers, Chainstar Pros, Mach X's, etc. Our targets are chains dangling around a pole. There is always going to be a significant degree of randomness thanks to the almost limitless amount of variables involved in the physics of our sport.

[@garygoulet4526]

If Uli is not the authority here , then who? Guy is >94% in C1

[@isCarsonMiller]

It’s just physics.. plenty of other sports (basketball, ball golf) rely on touch to score, so why shouldn’t disc golf? Don’t want it to spit out? Maybe don’t throw your disc 50mph at pieces of metal 10 ft away. Same reason you don’t see ball golfers rocketing close putts or basketball players lacing layups hard off the backboard. The goal is to get it in, not set yourself up to complain that it didn’t.

[@Hunterb-wb9vd]

Calvin has more rounds on coverage over the last 2 years than pretty much anyone and I don’t recall ever seeing a putt from Calvin spit out

[@Archaedes797]

well thats cuz 60% of his putts hit cage

[@Hunterb-wb9vd]

@@Archaedes797 oh thats cuz?

[@Archaedes797]

​@@Hunterb-wb9vd Thats cuz who knows Im not Calvin.... Its just a comment meant to be funny dude, lighten up

[@jdk0777]

Yea, lighten up! You don't have to get a big dick about it.

[@williamsturdevant3905]

I think Climo said something similar about why his putt looks so different, the baskets in his day did not catch as well so the disc had to hit the chains softer to catch.

[@Chillydall02]

For sure, back in the day on those baskets a 20 footer would be about as hard as a 30-35 foot putt today.

[@robertjones1730]

100% Uli. Putting is a learned skill with no ceiling. With throwing distance there is a ceiling. No matter how I practice of work out, my body will not throw as far as Barela or Gannon. Same in running, some people have a genetic advantage and no matter what I do I will not be able to equal that. I can always get a lot BETTER, but my ceiling is lower than theirs.

[@bam_mab9190]

Yeah, imagine a new viewer watching and just seeing Gannon cry about baskets not catching his bullets all round. That viewer probably not coming back

[@snowballman77]

Paul is such a G. Seems like the most likeable person and gives such advice

[@prattacaster]

Ive been playing 4 years now, and I cant ever remember having a pole spit out. More often then not Ive been pleasantly surprised by bad putts that have caught. Only spit out Ive had was a dead center pole hit ace spit out on a Prodigy basket. So, I have Prodigy baskets for life😅😅

[@johnmaher5887]

Ball golf is the same way. If you hit it too hard sometimes it bounces off the back of the cup and bounces out. Or if you chip onto the green, sometimes it hits the flagpole and bounces off. You don’t see professional golf players complaining about the holes on greens, or the flag poles. It’s just part of the game. (And yes, I know that golf holes and flags are largely standardized, but I think it’s more about the putt in any case)

[@PastranaDigital]

Nice. Is the website still in progress? FDNSports isn’t loading.

[@discgolflife]

Personally I think my local course has better baskets than the pro tour does lol. At least the back row of chains have hog rings with extra chain links. I haven't had a spit out in a couple of years. It rarely happens. Mach x baskets are my favorite. That being said, I have a dynamic disc basket in my backyard. It's the nice one, solid metal, couple of hundred bucks. The back row of chains have no hog rings, or extra chain links. I find myself getting spit outs quite often. Moral of the story, it's the basket, not the putter! I play three days a week on average for the last 5 years straight. This is what I've observed...

[@jordanlamarca7709]

I want to relate this to Golf if you go to putt an 8 footer and you blast the thing it’s going to skip over the hole. It’s the same with disc golf you have to control the speed at which your disc is coming in. If you don’t do that you have a good chance of spitting out. Like Uli said I think you need some touch.

[@d0ubleAR0N]

Preach ULI! 👏

[@oneopinion6806]

Bring back cones. Make Burr put on cones. I want to see his face when he slams one in and it energetically rebounds back out again, or hits just high and sends one 100' deep. But kidding aside I love what Uli is saying here. There's positives and negatives to the various forms of putting. Hyzer angle limits lateral variation but can slip through chains and sail with wind. Push putts have problem with wind but are more likely to land soft. Spin putts limit wind impact but (in this case) can lead to discers slamming chains so boisterously they rebound. In the end it's up to the discer. They play the baskets presented in the same way the play the course or the conditions as presented. If a set of baskets seems to return energy on the disc a bit more then the discer needs to make the adjustment in the same way they would shifting wind conditions. I'll even add, without trying to pile on Burr specifically too much, it is not unusual to see younger pros (and younger players in general) putting with aggressive spin putt methods while older players or more season pros start to chill out more on the putting pace. I mean I have a very soft push putt because I'm an absolute coward wanting to avoid long return putts, but just a look at the spin putt clinic Simon put a week ago being able to fire from deep in C2 without the disc hammering the chains. Keep talking sense Uli!

[@martingriggs9865]

If you want to make putting harder, go back to Mach 1 baskets. Everyone will be forced to putt softer.

[@michaelmeisinger7476]

Haven’t seen any comments giving Brodie props for his take. 100% agree with everything Uli said but I really liked when Brodie brought up the 50/50 putts. I know the moment it leaves my hand if it’s a guaranteed make, questionable, or a guaranteed miss. For every “spit out” on a questionable putt there’s gonna be one that drops in. I’ve heard Sexton say similar things when talking about his mental game.

[@ConsensusReality]

Everybody uses the same baskets in a tournament.

[@SkeletorJenkins]

It's just that simple.

[@livinlifeoverfifty]

Best comment

[@curtisridenour]

This is true. But, they could be the same basket in every tournament.

[@fountainofyouth5]

Excellent point Uli!

[@ThroneDiscs]

It’s important to understand that the goal isn’t to just “hit the chains” and then use any degree of speed on your putt to do that. Putting can be a delicate art form at times. Sure, using a lot of speed in your putt may give you greater consistency and equate to more made putts in the long run, but it’s not without certain tradeoffs. Most pro’s are happy to make that tradeoff.

[@MM-qq8fb]

This is why I love Uli. He knows the game very well. We all know this sport isn’t about just power. Finesse and shot shape are way more important. Unfortunately with the way the DGPT promotes the sport, it’s all about power and distance. The game was made about finesse and shot shaping. Something going 50mph shouldn’t catch from 15 feet out. PUTT ACCORDINGLY!!

[@E.Williams-z9y]

Hockey light comment reminds me of Tonal targets. Hit the target and it rings. No spits out. Touch the pole and done. Could even add a light to go with the bell so everyone can know the result.

[@untrustworthyshelfing9953]

I think Simon is an excellent model for how to adjust one's putt.

[@scottmartinelli8185]

One way of solving this problem, as stated by Uli in the past, is standardized baskets. The problem with that is, it brings in a lack of individualized product and a lack of competition. Think of the European ones with the wine glass looking cage and base.(just a beautiful looking basket) That problem could be solved by standardizing ONLY the chain requirements. So, we all end up putting on the same chains.

[@oneopinion6806]

If they standardized the only way it should work is DGPT has their own baskets they install in a courses collars. They should take on the cost. But we know whatever they pick they would still have some segment of the pros carping about how they picked the wrong one.

[@discgolfsurgeon27440]

I wish I could “love” this video 100 times. The commentators need to shut the hell up about putts coming out too. Instead try commenting “That one came in a little hot. Hopefully he’ll make an adjustment”. Putting is a skill. Learn it. Learn some touch.

[@chrisschuster9828]

I’ve been saying this forever!! 😂🙌

[@aaronhackett5889]

It sounds like players want the sport adjust to them.

[@callawaycass5148]

Genuine "should have caught" spit outs are very rare. Most of the time it's either bad location or bad touch. I think if we make a basket that catches everything that touches chain will make the sport worse.

[@00bdog00]

I definitely agree

[@ekleduden]

I agree with you here Uli 🤗🐸

[@calebwalin8754]

Preach

[@JakeLaPutka]

Louder in the back for the soft putters!

[@InitiallyJayKay]

"Standardize baskets are a must" They are standardized if they're PDGA approved targets

[@JinGalactica]

Exactly what Uli says. Gannon if you’re watching and reading this, and actually listening . And I know you prolly won’t. Learn some touch buh-RO. 20 footers don’t need a f*cking 100 ft power throw. If baskets were the problem, why haven’t we heard it from other pros.

[@HeadlessBourgeoisie]

100%, Uli. Dead on.

[@curtisridenour]

Standardized baskets are must. If only to end the whining from the players every week, it would be well worth it. I 100% agree with Uli. We want the best one with the least spitouts. But he is definitely happy when it is veterans and prodigy because he will gain strokes on the field on the putting green.

[@tfilipow7]

yes please, as a former 15 year ball golfer you get “spit outs” on ball putts all the time. The harder you putt, the more likely you are to get a spit out.

[@ragesuper7858]

Off topic, but a good rant topic... Scoring Stats and how the Pro Tour barely marks circle 2, 1 and the bulls eye. How do they expect accuracy when you can't tell visually because the gaps are SO LARGE between those whiskers. I'm watching Champions Cup now and it looks like the bulls eye is marked by 4 whiskers. REALLY? A circle being marked by a square of whiskers? MSO was marked really bad too. I did stats and sometimes couldn't find any C2 whiskers. Seemed like they only marked the close side on some holes. Players do go long from time to time. They need to spray paint some dashes between the whiskers. Or how about just paint the whole circle! Okay, I'm done lol

[@KillRoy117]

The objective of the game is to get the disc into the basket not fire it at the chains. Uli is right.

[@markr7131]

I agree with uli because if they made a basket that would catch everything then they would say it's too easy and make a smaller target

[@matthewclark534]

Gotta have touch when you get closer to the basket, can’t just jam it in.

[@gregrussell1787]

Unless the basket physically changes during your throw. It is never the baskets fault.

[@ToniHintikka]

Facts :)

[@DiscGolfDemastus]

His take, like many other takes: “more people should play like me”. We borrowed the scoring system from golf, but this isn’t golf. It’s in so many ways not golf and it never will be.

[@pinhighdiscdyes]

Amen.

[@Gaffy05]

I 10000000% agree with Uli. You want to putt nose down at 100% power every putt aka Gannon you are going to get spit outs learn some touch or quit bitching about it.

[@bbd1254]

I think we need a super Mario bros flag on every basket. When the flag is at the top you get a better score.

[@cyle46]

The only part of this I take issue with is that uli likes veteran baskets. I putt with a Glo-G Arrowana and even I've ended up with weird cut throughs and just odd reactions. Veterans are by far the worse basket I've putted on and my home course is veterans.

[@paulschneider2856]

Bros the game is fluky and never will change come on y’all! 😅 I mean I have chronic migraines and there is no cure (only masking mediums), it just is what it is. What’s awesome is how people can conquer the flukiness and continue to battle.

[@SiLVeRSuRFiNN]

Gannon Buhr on his worst day out putts Brodie on his best day. Stick with the criticism Brodie, it's what you do best.

[@hoodrich4375]

Can't slam a golf ball in the hole either. Just saying

[@ETXB]

I don't throw far but I can putt - some days better than others- but I can putt. I see it all the time: someone misses and has 100 excuses but it's never That was a bad putt. 99.9% of the time, if you missed - you did something wrong. Blaming it on the basket and continuing to throw bad putts will not improve your game.

[@tadmckowski3348]

Uli is absolutely right. The old school players had to putt very specifically to get baskets to catch. Just because the new baskets catch better, doesn’t mean you can just chuck it in there and not expect spit outs.

[@bernan1]

Surprised Gannon doesn't just blame it on the flashing....

[@NathanielLR888]

I’ve always said that different baskets (both new and old ) are good for disc golf. Inside of 20’ it’s a very easy sport. It’s our own “reading the greens” If all the baskets caught the same it would be like 10’ and in being totally flat on the ball course green

[@sadboydjohm3362]

Just think about golf.. If they would putt too hard it's not falling in the hole

[@MA-mb7yk]

Hear's the deal....like any other sport where the person is throwing/hitting/kicking something to a target, you have to have the right speed, or it's a miss. I love Gannon and felt bad for him, but these are pros and most, if not all have a good head on their shoulders, so adjust as needed. As everyone knows, the definition of insanity is....

[@MegaFlorest]

Baskets catch so well these days...from all manufactureres. Learn the nuances of each one, and adjust. I hate ball golf comparisons, but if you want to make one, our different baskets are like their different putting green grass varietals, which also react differently to moisture and temperature changes.

[@logant9437]

We dont need to go to one basket. Doing that would just stop innovation and immediately waste a bunch of money. As it has been said-everyone is using the same baskets.

[@gfuqua70]

Still, yes, but those Veteran baskets still suck compared to others on tour. Yes everyone is putting on the same baskets but they are not a consistent and predictable catching basket, period, There needs to be a effin standard basket on tour.

[@LanceBeckman]

Didn't the guy on the left used to play ball golf?

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

They both do. Brodie to a more serious degree.

[@Chillydall02]

Brodie got absolutely massive on Yt doing trick shots and ultimate frisbee wayyy back in the day. He played golf as well. And then got into disc golf.

[@clawshooter5867]

I would say the same thing too if I was constantly being outdrived

[@Logan_MZR]

Well when your putt is hitting the basket at Mach 3…..

[@theoddtopics5562]

I like to think about it like ball golf! You hit your putt too, hard - That ball is not going in the hole no matter the angle of entry or how on line. Period.

[@evelyneverlasting9038]

I can putt @550ft

[@jonah8778]

Brodie should go back to dude perfect

[@triplespace007]

Does Brodie record his end off a laptop? If so please buy a new webcam man. If it's your phone...what the.

[@wacoblaze]

Hockey light on top of baskets......mmmm disc golf of the future lol

[@Loggjamm]

Ewww no, do not offer hockey net style. Make the putt or it doesn't count.

[@mike808d]

I hate to say it, but like "ball golf", putting is very much a touch and feel aspect of the game

[@danielmorningstar4680]

Absolutely nothing against uli But just clicked on this video to dislike Trash baskets need to be banned Spit outs will always happen but there’s no denying there are some baskets that are way better than others and we shouldn’t have trash ones on the pro tour

[@eoghana315]

Good thing they don't play on any trash baskets on the tour then.

[@oneopinion6806]

Back when I was in college there was a 9 hole on campus that the baskets were created by the art department. They had a form of the DGA Mach III but the gotcha was the vertical chains were actually holding up the cage--meaning they were taught. Loved the home-brew effort but those were the only thing I would term a "trash" basket.