Ulster Scots Journey - Part 1

Comedian Tim McGarry looks at the history of the Scots in Ulster up to the 1609 plantation. Along the way he discovers some Ulster-Scots heritage in his own family.
Please visit: www.forgedinulster.co.uk

[@DancinFool]

Having Tim McGarry as host has made this very entertaining, as well as, interesting.

[@willieclark2256]

Well, I say "host"

[@ginnysnyder9703]

His Sense of Humor is Great !!! Totally Enjoyable... Learn as you Laugh !!!!!

[@j.s.1816]

I laughed so much!

[@margaretdundas680]

I am very proud of my Scottish Irish grandad from Derry

[@fromireland8663]

Wales.

[@knockshinnoch1950]

Fascinating informative and highly entreating series. I retired recently. I'm Scottish born and bred. I decide to take a DNA test and begin to research my family genealogy. I've discovered I'm 55% Scots, 35% Irish and 10% Scandinavian. My Irish connections are strong on both my maternal and paternal lines. I have a whole new view of "self" and where I come from. I have been actively researching as much as I can about the many family/DNA connections across the globe- the Scots and Irish Diaspora links me to Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, India, USA, Canada, Norway & France, Wales and... ENGLAND. I keep adding to an ever expanding cast of amazing people with some incredible back stories. Excellent resources such as this have helped me make greater sense of and confirm much of what I've leaned so far. Thanks for posting this series.

[@ste2442]

Scouser here , my dna came Back as 35% Irish , 30% Scottish , 22% English , 17% Welsh and the rest was Norwegian. Got lots of 2nd to 5th cousins with a dna search in Alabama. Tennessee etc .

[@gigigiseleworld]

Guess what the descendants of the Ulster Plantation live in the USA and Australia. They are Convict's... Protestant's, Puritan's and ZEALOTS of the religion of their thieving Ancestors. American President Andrew Jackson..,was a Scot Irish.. he hated the British.

[@daithiocinnsealach1982]

A lovely documentary. Makes you remember just how complex the history of the people who occupied this little place really is.

[@catherinewylie6959]

This guy is hysterical. Love it. Thanks!

[@headbuttsforphaticcommunio3731]

humanist durht

[@ginnysnyder9703]

Me too !! Lol

[@xangpee8271]

You can also see Wales from Ireland if you go a few mile south into Wicklow, I often could see the Mountains of Wicklow from Ceredigion and one time on my couple of holidays to Ireland I actually went to Wicklow one hot July morning and to my shock could see some hills across the sea in either Ceredigion or Gwynedd or maybe even Pembrokeshire

[@WOLFanddBEAR]

Also from the north coast of Ireland you can see Scotland on a clear day.

[@josephfisher2100]

My grandmother lived in Tinapark Co Wicklow on a clear day you could see the hills of Wales from her kitchen window

[@janetmackinnon3411]

I'm so glad I found this!

[@lilybean1000]

I live in the Southern US in Georgia. Virginia, through North Carolina, Tennessee and south was settled by Ulster Scots. Also most areas of the Appalachian Mountains were settled by this group. I have traced my ancestors to England but I know I am related to the Ulster Scot group also. Just don’t have a paper trail for it yet.

[@kkunleashed7991]

Your ancestors who were Ulster Scots were basically a mixture of people who descended from the Scottish lowlands and far north of England (places like the Lake District or Durham etc).

[@ginnysnyder9703]

Have you gone to the Grandfather Mt. Scottish Games yet ??? I live in Wilkes Co., NC & every summer I say " I gotta GO !!"

[@sandracunningham2717]

Maybe dont

[@colinirwin8611]

I’m from Ireland and live in Appalachia.Morgantown WV to be precise.Lovely friendly people in this part of the US.

[@andreawheatley5528]

You forgot Eastern Kentucky

[@janet8418]

My ancestor was a Mullin from Ulster. I haven’t visited Ireland yet, but visited Scotland. In Sterling, there’s a stature of Robert the Bruce. He was 6’4 which was much taller than Mel Gibson.

[@allrounder7003]

Sterling is a furniture shop in Tillicoultry. No statues there.

[@janet8418]

@@allrounder7003 at sterling Castle

[@janet8418]

@@allrounder7003 there is a statue of Robert the Bruce at Sterling Castle. I have seen it. Mistake, not William Wallace. Isn’t Sterling Castle in or near Sterling? Visited Sterling, too.

[@allrounder7003]

@@janet8418 Sterling is or was a very large furniture shop in Tillicoultry which does happen to be near the town of Stirling. The difference was the main subject of their famous television advertising campaigns.

[@JillVITA]

My great great grandfather was born in Antrim. His descendants went over to Caithness later on. I do find may of us are descended from Fergues just as we are many of us descended from Charlemange, ONeil ,Edward III. ( Edward III and Scot Royalty share heritage) and Normans. We truly are all connected. The survivors after plague can truly show multiple lines to these ancients.

[@asonijay6230]

Charlemagne is tangentially related to every European.

[@billkeane528]

what this tells us is we fight over the smallest of things yet we are basiclly the same family, who fights all the time yes familys lol

[@misstuxbrandi]

I'm an Ulster Scott from North Carolina from the family Greer/ a descendant of the family McGregor and I'm very much looking forward to this.

[@MALEXI10]

People tend to believe that "Ulster Scots" refers only to Scottish migration to Ireland. The term encompasses northern English, and Welsh to a very small extent. There was also those who came from western Europe (France, Netherlands, Germany, Belgium). It's not hard to understand that Irish Catholics and Ulster Protestants are distantly related but the distance is enough to have separate cultures. The Ulster Scots were essentially the biggest players in the formation of the American Republic.

[@Sean-sn9ld]

@Patrick Brannon the nore of this history becomes public knowledge, the closer both communities will become

[@gazzbhoy8950]

Ye are talking shite know fuck all !!!

[@ULYSSES-31]

Scots-Irish as they were known.

[@scotthewitt8575]

Olllłoo❤plle

[@jamesjames3146]

Well here's a good one. I am a McLellan Originally spelled, McClellan, Clelland, Gilfaolin. It's meaning is The son of the servants of St Finnian. Which I believe is wolf in Irish. We came to Canada in the late 1600's early 1700. From Derry

[@o-o2399]

lol

[@jaderiver1791]

I love this guy! He’s hilarious! :-)

[@billkenbridge]

Wonderful information!

[@Criostoirg]

Tim mcgarry a legend

[@johannaetrishamorgan6850]

Excellent 👌 thank you

[@MossyKong]

Excellent documentary. Let's you really see how we are all intertwined despite our cultural lines.

[@Absolutely_Cece]

Hello Ulsters!

[@danielkennedy9240]

Here in American Appalachia, we call Ulster Scots Scots-Irish. Irish and Scots have mixed for 2000 years.

[@SR-rv2jw]

I live in western NC and I got a DNA test done and have more Western European DNA than the average person that lives in Western Europe. It's kind of cool because over there everyone has mixed in with other peoples and whatnot and my ancestors were isolated in rural Appalachia. I'm a mix of Germanic (mostly Swiss), Scottish (Ulster Scots/scots Irish) English, Welsh, and Scandinavian. I love where we live the Appalachian culture is truly one of a kind - a mixture of influences from all over western Europe and even Africa. Most people don't know this but the banjo was a traditional African instrument brought over by slaves. The musical style of the Ulster Scots was influenced by African Americans and Germans to form what we now call bluegrass.

[@stevenvarner9806]

Robert, many Presbyterian Ulster Scots families moved westward to Illinois and other Midwestern states, then Kansas, and on to western states like Idaho. My Ulster Scots ancestors (Brown, McClure, Stormont, Nisbet, Frew) came to America, and many moved to southeastern Illinois. Many are buried in the Presbyterian cemeteries in places like Pinkneyville, IL.

[@johnpatrick5307]

@@SR-rv2jw Scottish? - what DNA is that? Irish?

[@zipperzoey2041]

@@stevenvarner9806 l

[@wingmanhoy3999]

Very much enjoyed, my ancestors O hEochaidh Dal Fiatach dynasty, Hoy Island Orkney Old Norse Haey, Hoey, Haughy, 1st high Kings of Ulster and red branch, a lot of heritage here, planning on visiting Northern Ireland and Orkney at some point, all the very best, health and happiness.

[@AISHAKhan-bt1eb]

Nice😘😘

[@sandrider1406]

We are all Celts, the Same people , it’s only the bigots who cause the divide.🇮🇪🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇮🇪🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇪🇺

[@Bmoney902]

I'm half Irish, half English, grew up in England, I heard from my grandmother that my grandfather is Scots Irish, and that's why he had the black hair. My DNA results show Ulster, and also Scotland (20%). His surname is Irish though, as far as I can tell. I tried to do a search for some documentation but couldn't find anything on paper.

[@agricola]

"Even if you want no part of this game, others will insist on doing it for you" you may not have an interest in politics but politics have taken an interest in you.....

[@jazmondo888]

Now I am totally baffled why us Islanders still desire to cut each other to ribbons . Must be a Clan thing. No sign of it abating ,woefully .

[@sandragruhle6288]

Corbett was Scott’s-Irish and remained Catholic, which probably cost them their land holdings. Arrowheads, tomahawk heads, and other stone artifacts were found on our Wisconsin homestead, claimed in 1849. That was the German immigration, a result of a farmers’ rebellionmih Germany. The Scotts-Irish connection moved to Wisconsin after having experienced an “endless winter,” in New England, where snow in late May and June caused problems for Yankee farmers.

[@mwingopoe7]

Ulster Plantation... Mitchell & David Poe 1667 "In 1667, a number of Scots were forced to leave Scotland following the Pentland Rising"

[@karinmoseley8694]

well there’s lots of ulster scot (attitude) still left in my family’s gene-pool. County Tyrone 👍🏻

[@kjmav10135]

My ancestor got kicked out of Ireland for being a part of the Irish Rebellion in 1798. He was a Presbyterian with the last name of Brown from somewhere in Ulster (maybe?) whose baptismal records were supposedly burned. I find the Irish Rebellion completely confusing as to who is on whose side. He wound up in Northeastern Vermont in a town full of Presbyterians where his descendants, my grandfather, met a MacNamara, my grandmother, who was Catholic. So, they wound up being United Irishmen after all!

[@poundlandbandit6124]

I was under the impression that St Patrick was welsh

[@lynnquillen4813]

Wasn't he Italian/Roman, raised in England and taken as a slave to Ireland when he was young?

[@matthewwilson3202]

He was a Briton albeit a romanized one, some say Wales some say southern scotland ( same language and culture at the time) some say he came from gaul. He was a construct of a few different early church figures in ireland, and the syncretism of pre Christian celtic religious figures

[@darrentodd3591]

@@lynnquillen4813 bollocks he was English

[@imastaycool]

@@darrentodd3591 ewww don't insult the man

[@thomaskourkoulis8527]

Scottish and Irish people living literally within stones throw of each other: "Omg! We're related???" Greeks and Armenians: 😳🙄

[@oldmanfromscenetwentyfour8164]

Tim McGarry and I are from the same Clan! Small world eh?

[@patriciapalumbo]

8000 BC wow!

[@randomvintagefilm273]

The McDonald's had the last laugh as their food chain is now all over the world!

[@Polepfor]

I am a LITTLE from Banbridge. Still trying to locate the GGGF Johnathan Little and GGGM Jean Little nèe Smith.❤

[@Polepfor]

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[@brent4770]

Do they have records from the mid-18th century?

[@fuzzasco4896]

Yes indeed, although they were deathly afraid of trying to break them (second paragraph): www.goodwood.com/grr/columnists/doug-nye/2019/6/a-brief-history-of-land-speed-record-cars/

[@CinCee-]

Do the ulster scots see themselves as a dif group as their fellow brits of english/irish decent in the east of ulster?

[@gilbertgillispie581]

I know my ancestor's came to the US from Scotland, and that one married a woman from Ireland. Whether or not they were at any time settled in Ulster, I do not know, but I am wondering if they were.

[@GRIMSBONIAN13]

If they were protestant I would say Scotland

[@stephenmcloughlin7718]

Think Gillespie is an Ulster name.

[@ccrum1127]

Robert the Bruce was my 20th Great Gfather...my maiden name Crum aka MacCrum under the MacDonald Clan.. Mel Gibson my cousin x2, under Gibson and Sinclair...

[@Lugh444]

I traced him in my direct ancestry too! Perhaps we are very distant relatives.

[@earthminus10]

After all is said and done you know we're all cousins. My ancestry comes up with over 800 cousins (Ulsters) I have. Most of them are on the east coast in the eastern states. I wonder if any of them and let me come visit because my family hates (their mean) me here in California. 🌊🙄Maybe I don't belong in California.

[@BigRed2]

I live in cali and my ultser scott family came over in early 1700s , 5 brothers settled in Augusta Virginia

[@hanoitripper1809]

How can you trace it

[@Jamestele1]

@@BigRed2 We're probably related! So funny how almost all of our peeps were around Augusta/Botecourt counties at some point!

[@Jamestele1]

@@vikuly8 Historically, Augusta County was just beyond Anglican English society. The English generally disliked the "hillbilly" scot-irish. They called them that for supporting King William, and because they lived off in the hills. It does seems funny, finding 98 percent of this proud people, living in Augusta at some point in Colonial history. I help people sometimes, with tracking their ancestors. I almost kind of laugh and think to myself - this dude is probably my third cousin!

[@michael5265]

Loved it, my Clan, The Lamont originally came from Ulster to Cowel the from Cowel to Ulster. And there a Catholic Clan. 😆 🤣 😂

[@xangpee8271]

Also it would of been nice to have seen the relationship between Ulster Irish and Scottish Gaelic, just like the Ulster Scots language share a common origin on both sides of the North Channel. It’s mad because the Ulster Scots people ironically almost embody the relationship, heritage and connection between Scotland and Ireland, Ulster in particular obviously. But it’s cool that some of the Ulster Scots fowk could possibly be descendants of Ulster men who emigrated to Scotland in the Dal Riada times and then returned back to Ulster in the 15th and 16th century. I wonder what the Ulster Scots people think of that theory?

[@imastaycool]

You're referring to the Plantations of the 1600s which was intentionally carried out by the English as a way of colonising Ireland. To plant = to root oneself = to colonise hence why its official term is the Plantations. These people have never integrated on the island and have caused misery so it is *not* a simple case of a friendly return to Ireland based on an event back in 500AD.

[@thisphone4976]

@@imastaycool you realize the first wave of migration was specifically scots? King James own words are on record as having chose them because that's his people. Many of those very scots were descendants of ancient scot Gaels who were originally from Ireland back in time. The ones who were tamed by David I king of scots.

[@imastaycool]

@Patrick Brannon a return? Are you insane? All you're trying to do is make allowances for invaders and colonisers. Where are you from, by the way? The Irish (the Gaels) brought their language and culture to what was then Pictland. The Gaels spoke Archaic Irish which is the root language of Gaelic. Irish is its mother language. We went to Pictland in the Medieval Times! Just because the Gaels went to Pictland in the Medieval Times does not even come close to anyone "returning" here to Ireland. They never came from here to return in the first place! The one and only time these Scottish Planters came to Ireland was to intentionally colonise it as directed by the English.

[@imastaycool]

@@thisphone4976 Again and again and again.... The Irish (the Gaels) brought their language and culture to what was then Pictland. The Gaels spoke Archaic Irish which is the root language of Gaelic. Irish is its mother language. We went to Pictland in the Medieval Times! Just because the Gaels went to Pictland in the Medieval Times does not even come close to anyone "returning" here to Ireland. They never came from here to return in the first place! The one and only time these Scottish Planters came to Ireland was to intentionally colonise it as directed by the English. They are FOREIGNERS to Ireland. Still are.

[@thisphone4976]

@@imastaycool I don't think you have picked a book up about the emigration and immigration back and forth. Bless your false sense of history.

[@David-nb8tq]

As a descendant of The O Dalaigh/MacMhuirich Bardic Poets, O Dalaigh Wikipedia, in the annals of The Four Masters, are discribed as, Eireann Agus Ollamh of Ireland and Scotland.

[@Sean-sn9ld]

Strange pronunciation of Dál Ríada (ive always said and heard it as 'Dawl Reedah')

[@elizabethmatthews7992]

Any Dunbars or McClurgs out there watching this?

[@russellwood8822]

You can see the cost of Ireland from Girvan South Ayrshire on a good day

[@Jamestele1]

My grandmother Colleen Snodgrass' family were from Ayrshire!

[@tommac4733]

Larne, near had me emptying myself heh, welcome to Ireland here's a toilet.

[@ulsterscotsman6648]

Llf leave Larne alone its got enough problems

[@alisonwilliams-bailey3561]

I have Ulster Scots Ancestry my grandfather.

[@lauriescott6275]

My grandfather on my Dad side of the family was Donald powers Scott So I am part Scottish and northern Ireland Scott Irish.

[@carljacobson7156]

Interestingly, Arthur Chichester's descendants also adopted the name 'O'Neill' from the lands that they conquered from the Gaelic O'Neills.

[@seanomaille8157]

The name Scotland derives from the Latin Scotia, land of the Scots, a Celtic people from Ireland who settled on the west coast of Great Britain about the 5th century ce.

[@terencemagee]

The Irish(including the Scots)came from the Basque Country 8.000 years ago. The Basques settled in all western parts of Europe ¬ France and England, too.

[@johnpatrick5307]

rubbish

[@johnpatrick5307]

The Irish are Indo-Europeans and they came from the Celtic Homeland (Austria, Northern France). They have been in Ireland since about 2000BC (they found a burial in County Antrim).

[@johnpatrick5307]

@Searlait Loughlin No, you're wrong: the Gaels(Irish) came from the Celtic Homeland, of Switzerland/Austria. They recently found 4000 year old skeletons in county Antrim, that they traced back to that area. Here is a pretty good summary of what we know: www.knowth.com/the-celts.htm The "true" Scottish were the Irish, since they gave rise to Scotland - there wasn't a Scotland before them.

[@johnpatrick5307]

@Searlait Loughlin You study genetics? Research has established thar R1b has subclades that are unique to the Celtic Homeland - hence the Irish came from there.

[@LemonThyme1933]

​@@johnpatrick5307The website link that you shared does say that they were on the Iberian Peninsula at one time. Perhaps, it is not where they originated from, but you could have at least shared that instead of being completely dismissive of the Basque area. I already knew they were in these areas based on the Rh Neg trait that I have. The largest concentration of Rh Neg blood is in the Basque region with the areas of Ireland and Scotland being the second largest concentration. It has been a while since I've studied the technical details of Rh Neg, but it is a medical necessity to know for females who give birth. Otherwise, thank you for sharing the link. I am one of the Ulster Scot descendants, but currently living in Poland. There were also Celtic settlements in Poland around 400 CE.

[@randomguy56789]

22:31

[@veng3r663]

Funny he should mention Braveheart. I ordered the DVD of it off Ebay just last night... :D

[@GRIMSBONIAN13]

That was Wallace who most likely Norman and Scottish

[@scotland638]

@@GRIMSBONIAN13 He was born in Scotland, so just Scottish, I believe his father may have had some connection to Wales.

[@GRIMSBONIAN13]

@@scotland638 Most of the Scottish lords had Norman connections from the 1066 invasion

[@scotland638]

@@GRIMSBONIAN13 Yes and he spoke French, so his grandfather might have been a Norman. If that makes Wallace part Norman you're correct, though I just go by place of birth.

[@GRIMSBONIAN13]

@@scotland638 What Wallace did that helped Scotland become independent.was that he formed connections with other Nations that helped them stay independence from England

[@sisyphus9787]

Batailla-abu!

[@WOLFanddBEAR]

Poor Abu, what did he do?

[@silverkitty2503]

It's do you eat tayto or walkers?

[@fixitright9709]

Face it, the Irish hiked north when the ice receded and settled Scotland, and called it Noiceland

[@whutteretbrock2181]

Many Scottish Presbyterians didn't officially marry

[@caoimheconroy4309]

poor Tim his great grandparents were schoolteachers thats just bad luck right there

[@sewing1243]

My Ewing immigrant ancestor to America immigrated from Ulster in the early 1700s but his family had migrated to Ulster from Scotland. The traditional history of Clan Ewen of Otter in Scotland (of which many Ewings are considered to be the descendants of the core family of Clan Ewen) and that the Clan founder, Ewen was a direct Donnsleibhe, who was said to be a descendant of an Irish prince of the O'Neill dynasty named Ánrothán Ua Néill who had migrated to who left Ireland for Kintyre in the 11th century.

[@Jamestele1]

I'm Scottish also, and I've discovered since doing DNA research just how much we Scots and Irish are so closely related. I get male line/Y-DNA matched at a high resolution for Northern Scotland men, as well as Irish Catholic-Gaelic folks.

[@brucecollins4729]

like the macs/mcs and o,s are scottish in origin. the macneils of barra thought they came from ireland(why i don,t know) but recent dna takes them straight back to scandinavia. www.heraldscotland.com/news/13197315.macneil-clan-shocked-dna

[@sewing1243]

@@brucecollins4729 I've had autosomal DNA tests done by both Family Tree DNA and Ancestry.com (and submitted both results to MyHeritage) and depending on the database each company compares my DNA to they say my DNA is either mostly Scottish or mostly Scandinavian. My Y-DNA is from the overall haplogroup what used to be called "Northwest Irish" (Formerly designated R1B1C7, it has changed over the years and now I'm way down the branches to R-BY18238 ).

[@sewing1243]

@@Jamestele1 My Y-DNA is from the overall haplogroup what used to be called "Northwest Irish" (Formerly designated R1B1C7, it has changed over the years and now I'm way down the branches to R-BY18238 ).

[@brucecollins4729]

@@sewing1243 there is a lot of scandinavian blood in the east of scotland and it,s isles.the picts were the original settlers in scotland and it,s isles. then the gaels arrived from europe into england but were pushed up to the west and east coasts of scotland where the set up permanent camp. the gaels on the east assimilated with the picts. then the vikings came and also settled. this mix became known commonly as the norse gaels. the gaels on the west were frequent raiders into ancient briton where the were labeled scotti(raiders) hence the name scotland. look up clan ranald.

[@warriorhomestead5914]

He journeys to find if he's got any Scots-Irish in him...Throw a rock over here and be sure to hit one...and with a Cherokee grandma!

[@pollysshore2539]

Actually it's not hard to find people in America with Cherokee grandmothers. They do exist!!! It's Cherokee Princesses that don't.

[@pollysshore2539]

PS- Don't be a PC Millennial. They're not good at it.

[@enidsnarb]

In America if it is Mc that is Ulster Scott and if it is Mac it is Scottish !

[@thenextshenanigantownandth4393]

Mc is a Anglicization of mostly Irish surnames not Ulster-scots, although I'm sure there are a few with Mc surnames, these however are not ulster-scots because ulster-scots is not a real identity. You're getting Irish-Americans confused with Scots-Irish, they're not the samething. Irish surnames beginning with Mc/mac include (MacCarthy), (MacDermott), (MacDonnell), (MacMahon) (Maguire)), (McDonagh), (MacNamara), (McInerney), (MacGrath), (McEnery), (McGee), (Magennis), (McCann), (McCaffrey), (McLaughlin) and (McNally) ect Mac/mc in Irish means son of. Irish surnames were more commonly anglicized to Mc than scottish surnames. What you're stating here is a reinvention/misunderstanding of the old myth that mc is always Irish and mac is always scottish. You just changed it from Irish to ulster-scots.

[@grey9102]

Any Curry's in here?

[@JillVITA]

St Patrick was born in England. And of Roman decent.

[@tommac4733]

This documentary is mildly diverting but the comments are quality. No Surrender.. Up the Hoods etc

[@tommac4733]

+Robert Kelly Bien sûr muppet. really halfwit tell me where you from where do you want to meet? Where i can fill you in regarding the gaps in your education. What a prize plum. This net thing is a red rag, eh? I hope you are a pisstaker like myself because if you are for real? ..... thats a shame...

[@tommac4733]

Hilarious, and a wee bit sad...

[@yoyoholck]

my ancient irish surname originates from ulster before any brits got here, its an ancient IRISH name. but people with names like fraiser, fisher, harbinson... have a cheek to just claim its part of THEIR heritage.. LOL. My ancestors lived in harmony with nature in ulster for THOUSANDS of years. This land is for the irish but you occupiers came and turned it into s shithole claiming its yours and claiming that gods with you. cavemen. we have ancient stone circles, scripts, art, language and history here.. you have flute bands singing about genocide and hate..

[@celticscribe7887]

Fergus mór wasn't the first Scottish king, there'd been a thousand kings in Scotland before the irish.

[@celticscribe7887]

@Searlait Loughlin talorcan, brude, Durst, etc.

[@NiallM333]

@@celticscribe7887 wasn't Scotland then though was it? It was Pictland

[@celticscribe7887]

@@NiallM333 talking about the modern region that is Scotland

[@NiallM333]

@@celticscribe7887 Aye but it wasn't Scotland until Fergus Mor. All those previous kings were Picts.

[@celticscribe7887]

@@NiallM333 it wasn't Scotland until Kenneth Mac Alpin. Not wee fergie

[@JungleJargon]

Fergus Mór mac Earc, Rí na Dál Riata is my 38th great grandfather!

[@aquarius5264]

the first king of scotland was just buried in some random farmer's backyard near dublin. that's so irish lmao.

[@brucecollins4729]

nonsense, is he buried near queen scota.

[@darrentodd3591]

Only a Irish man find that funny yi dummy, Yous Ave always been the poor man of Europe ruled by peados

[@imastaycool]

@@darrentodd3591 we're now one of the richest in Europe and even the world hahaha and we were feeding Britain back in the 1800s! Thanks to Brexit, you're getting poorer and not a single country can stand the lot of you. Don't worry, we're still feeding you lot as we export more to you AGAIN, but this time we're making lots of money 🤣 you're sending your meat here to be butchered and we're sending it back to you 🤣

[@slimboyross]

Aquarius, the “Monkstown” referred to in this program, is the Monkstown located in County Antrim - a few miles outside Carrickfergus - not to be confused with the same-named Monkstown you’re referring to near Dublin.

[@margaretmooney8031]

I have come across Patrick McGarry and Mary Ann Cleland before. I was looking up McClellands for a friend. There is a website based in Dublin where marriages births and deaths can be found, and the actual certificate can be seen. www.irishgenealogy.ie. The North of Ireland is covered until the partition of Ireland. There is a marriage for Patrick and Mary Ann in a Catholic Church in Rasharkin Co Antrim. Same details. Saw the other one too, somewhere I think but not on a certificate.

[@margaretmooney8031]

Sorry I got confused as I couldn't see the details. They went past too quickly. I see now what the details were. McClellands I was looking for were said to be related to the Rev James Porter.

[@evo3455]

I thought St.Patrick was Welsh??

[@houndofzoltan]

thought so too, but a quick look at wikipedia informs me they now think he was most likely from Cumbria in England. And he's also inaccurate about Ireland being only country unsettled by the Romans: Scotland wasn't settled either.

[@1984Oranje]

@@houndofzoltan Scotland was settled by the Romans. Would be very hard to build the Antonine well as well as the numerous Roman fortifications.

[@houndofzoltan]

@@1984Oranje The Romans invaded Scotland and build a string of fortifications, but they never settled there: it seems that after Agricola was recalled to Rome circa 85 CE the Romans retreated back behind the Solway Firth.

[@thenextshenanigantownandth4393]

@@houndofzoltan They didn't invade Scotland because there was no Scotland or the scottish during the roman empire. Scot was a generic term for the Irish by the romans.

[@houndofzoltan]

@@thenextshenanigantownandth4393 A fellow pedant. They invaded Hibernia, which is modern day Scotland.

[@BackInTheDayTunes]

But like all invaders, they liked the look of the place :-)

[@danielkennedy9240]

Romans called Hibernia and Scotland was called Caledonia

[@thenextshenanigantownandth4393]

Hibernia was a older term for Ireland most likely coined before contact, the romans called the Irish scotti or scotia. Scotland was called Albania not Caledonia, Caledonia was a tribe in what's now Scotland.

[@danielkennedy9240]

My ancestors were farmers and fought at Londonderry

[@tommac4733]

+tom mac It's a fucking dump anyway so relax lads

[@jennifershelley6938]

LondonDerry - the only word in the English language where the first six letters are silent. :P

[@connorshekelstein6432]

Daniel Kennedy irs derry not Londonderry people get offended

[@scotlandsaidno9475]

LONDONDERRY

[@paulritchie5868]

After a bevy ?

[@CailenCambeul]

In Australia, I believe it's pronounced Who the F. d'ya think ya're. EDIT: We have Scottish and Irish history in our "language".

[@cumbco]

I took a dna test last year to find out if I was mostly Irish or Scottish. The test said I was 50 percent Irish/Scottish lol.

[@johnpatrick5307]

That means you're 50% Irish! Its the same DNA! - but the Scottish also have DNA from all over the place: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-17740638

[@brucecollins4729]

well, the scots are a mix of gaels who came over from europe into england but fled to the west and east coasts and islands. of scotland. they would have assimilated with the native picts. then the vikings came from scandinavia and settled in the isles and the north east of scotland and became known as the norse gaels. they were called scotti because they made frequent raids into ancient briton. thus, emerges scotland.

[@raymondhaskin9449]

@@brucecollins4729 No they are not. The Scots are a mix of Britons and Anglo saxons. Hence the Scots language is Germanic.

[@brucecollins4729]

@@raymondhaskin9449 part of the scots language is germanic....not all.gaelic is still spoken in the highlands and islands.the scotti being an irish tribe is a made up story by irish monks in medieval times to give ireland an identity.. scotlands name comes from greece. skota in greek means dark , hence scotland land of darkness.you might want to look up the anglo-saxon invasion of ireland in 684 where they took irish slaves and settled parts of ireland.also, the anglo-norman ivasion in the 12th century, where they acquired large swathes of land. also, they irish hired scottish clans to fight the normans and were given huge tracts of land in return. also the cambro-norman invasion where the welsh settled parts of ireland. also, scottish redshanks in the late 1500s who were hired by the irish. also the scottish and english planters who settled ireland from 1601 onwards. so, you are a mixed bag of accents too. as one irish historian writes the irish accent would have come from the west of england. have a good delve into your own history.

[@raymondhaskin9449]

@@brucecollins4729 The Scots language is Germanic. Not Gaelic. And never in history were the Scots classed as an “Irish tribe”. The term Scotii was the Roman term for raiders, people grouped by their activity. Not tribal affiliation.

[@josoapification]

They say that Ireland was regarded by the romans as an ancient and mythical place. Apparently they had a mythical fear of the powers of the druids ?. The romans may not have invaded Ireland but they found evidence they traded for flint from Antrim coast . So technically the romans were in Ireland. As for Saint Patrick he was sent to rid Ireland of the Druid’s. Or the snakes as they refer to in the story of Saint Patrick.

[@matthewwilson3202]

There's finds near Dublin that would suggest a trading post. Rome was beginning to collapse under its own weight. In the British Isles Caledonian and Irish tribes like the Scoti and Attacoti were harassing the Romans on the fringes of their empire. Rome did it's usual thing of paying these tribes off and co opting into their armies as mercenaries. They were intimate strangers. Their were Christians in ireland pre saint Patrick, some scholars think that he's an amalgamation of a load of early Irish Christian figures as well as pre christian ones. Pelagius the cleric that started the pelagian heresy was of Irish stock , albeit born in the empire to mercenary parents. As I say roman and ireland were intimate strangers

[@merelybrainrot]

Hey guys, I need to watch this for history so, pretend I said something about the video

[@cillianennis9921]

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[@amanb8698]

You know the Irish and Scottish and thus the Ulster-Scottish* come from the same stock right? Gaels. They the same folk originally. I don't care what your take on some Middle Eastern religion that's not European is, both Catholicism and Protestantism are originally non European faiths and thus not native, they are Semitic. I always wondered what they'd classify you if you simply declared yourself a Pagan Germanic-Celt mix lol.

[@stephaniemoore1930]

Scots is German language. Nothing to do with Celtics

[@Motofanable]

@@stephaniemoore1930 Scots are named after gaels. Scots is an old name for the gaelic.

[@stephaniemoore1930]

@@Motofanable Scots is a German language! Not Celtic

[@Motofanable]

​@@stephaniemoore1930 learn how to read

[@stephaniemoore1930]

@@Motofanable I'm sorry that you're allergic to correct information

[@brianc3817]

Good watch, but saint Patrick was the grandson of raman diplomats in Wales, this is quite well established

[@danbit5]

i thought st paddy was of welsh origin:)

[@barbarawatson1116]

Yes Mike Is Rite! Let Ms. Jodi Know This,,lol ;)

[@houndofzoltan]

I thought so too, but a quick look at wikipedia informs me they now think he was most likely from Cumbria in England.

[@miakeogh6844]

Northern st Patrick was apparently from Brittany

[@fromireland8663]

Since when was St. Patrick Scottish? We all know that he was a Welsh Roman kidnapped into slavery in Ireland. And that his follower St. Columcille took christianity to Scotland.

[@ruairijoseph]

Ulster Scots language 🤣

[@miakeogh6844]

Sorry the other way around the Irish went to Scotland and populated Scotland

[@brucecollins4729]

myth

[@imastaycool]

@@brucecollins4729 instead of saying it's a myth, back up your own version like an adult.

[@brucecollins4729]

@@imastaycool it was the early scots who populated ireland. the neolithic and mesolithic peoples. the scotti myth is what it is...a made up tale to give ireland an identity on a par with roman and greek mythology who also made up tales. just type in...the dna of the irish gael and read parts one and two. even ignoring the dna it,s the most obvious route.

[@Valhalla88888]

Caledonia was already populated with Picts!

[@SB-wr7hf]

Nonsense

[@michaelwhite8031]

Brave Fart

[@LM-pm2ir]

Of course the Ulster Scots in the north of Ireland were planted there inevitably taking away land from the Irish folks who already there

[@georgebrowne5935]

The Irish People know their own History as it is very well recorded in the Archives. It's the British unfortunately that don't know their own History, and indeed those that do, don't admit it because it is difficult to be proud of it. The British School Curriculum to this very day, avoid these past times of History in Ireland.

[@markmccracken6700]

Unfortunately our Irish history and its interpretation is not balanced at all. Catholics don’t know the whole story and what they are taught is taken out of context immensely. The Vatican and papal crown under lies of Roman Catholic bishops encouraged Norman conquest to extort tax and destroy ancient Irish biblical evangelical Christianity. History has made hypocrites of both the catholic and the Protestant narrative. Irelands future of peace of unity depends largely on an honest view.

[@gingerbaker4390]

I highly doubt the Irish could fight the English in the time of Elizabeth I. The English troops were better trained equipped and organised. They were as proffessional as u get in those days.

[@cambs0181]

No they weren't. England wouldn't have a professional standing army until the middle of the 1600s. Elizabeth had to make do with standing militias to defend her lands. It's lucky her navy and the weather chased of the armada, King Phillip of Spain had two standing armies me would not of met too much resistance if they had landed.

[@gingerbaker4390]

@@cambs0181 Elizabeth I gathered a fleet of nobles, privateer condemned criminals, cut throats, cattle rustlers, thieves and debtors etc and put them onto the high seas as pirates in the service of the Crown. They chased and robbed Spanish gsllions of all their stolen gold, silver and other wealth from the Americas and Caribbean It's why the English were called pirates. They were really fortune hunters.

[@fromireland8663]

They did fight the English in a way that suited the Irish landscape. As I understand it, the problem the Normans had, when they initially invaded in 1169, was that they could never find the people who were in charge. The Irish did not live in towns/villages as such ( European style), but were in dispersed settlements ( now townlands ) across the land. The Irish used guerrilla style tactics, rather than head on battles, against the invaders. Also, terrain like the bog of Allan, was not kind to an armoured Norman fighter. Also many of the Norman settlers integrated with the Irish, becoming "more Irish than the Irish themselves"', to the extent that some of the Norman lords spoke Irish at home. Notably, this integration was not impeded by religious difference, as it was after the Ulster plantation, as they were all the same religion in Norman times. Prior to the Ulster Plantation, Anglo-Norman/English control was never established to any great extent outside the main cities and towns Dublin, Wexford Waterford, Cork etc. and an area called the "Pale" which covered mainly Co. Dublin and east Co. Meath. Outside of these strongholds the Gaelic chieftains/lords were still in control, particularly in Ulster. During Elizabethan times, there was a concerted effort to break Gaelic control, particularly the very powerful O'Neill and O'Donnell clans of Ulster, by a continuous "scorched earth" campaign by Crown forces out of Dublin Castle. The "Nine Years war", as it was called, left Ulster destroyed, the people on the point of starvation and the province ripe for plantation. The final nail in the coffin for gaelic Ulster was when the O'Neill chieftain/lord was summoned to court in London by the Queen. He was certain it was a death sentence. So, in 1607, the leaders of the O'Neill and O'Donnell clans set sail from Rathmullan, Co. Donegal for Europe to enlist they help of European monarchs. They never returned. This left Ulster without leadership and wide open for the plantation of James I. Resistance was little to none. Getting back to styles if fighting, the loss of the Irish at the battle of Kinsale was partly due to being persuaded by their European generals to fight a head-on European style battle. The Irish fighters had no experience of this kind of battle. Had they stuck to their traditional guerrilla-style of attack, the outcome might have been different.

[@jodidarling4141]

Some folks may not know that St. Patrick was neither Irish nor Scottish. He was Italian! The son of a Roman diplomat living in England.

[@barbarawatson1116]

So St. Patrick>Must Of Been a Big Lier? My Hubby Is Scots/Irish Decent, And Has Studied n Still Is, And When He Read This Comment He LOL, Becuz He Had Never Heard This B.S. HaHa,,And I'm Italian, 'nd Know My Own Race n The History Behind It All,,Bottom Line>Jodi, Your Sadly Mistaken Or Off Your Rocker!! Or Where Ever You Got That Info..Must Of Smoked Way Too Much>Weed lol,,, Besides Just Say That St.Patrick was even Half Italian/Scots-Irish ,,Then One Of The Parent Of St. Blah Blah, Who Named Him Patrick? Becoz A Full Blooded Italian Would Have Named Their Son>Patrick!! Not an Italian's Heritige,Name, At All! Jus Sayin>Jodi, We Can Believe> Columbus Was From Spain!! Well Jodi We Don't Time To Get Down To The Nety-Grety lol with All This!

[@jodidarling4141]

1. "Must have" is surely what you meant to say, not "must of,"as you wrote. 2. Italian is not a race. 3. Columbus was an Italian and and when he sailed, he served the Queen of Spain. 4. No need to call me names like "off your rocker," or to suggest weed. No, in fact I do not smoke anything. 5. Have you studied punctuation? It seems not, but if so, you have many, many typos. The vast number of your errors make it hard to take you seriously. Are you joking? 6. St Patrick was not actually Irish. His exact birthplace and date is not known. However it is believed he was born around 375AD in Scotland. His parents were Calpurnius and Conchessa, were Romans living in Britain in charge of the colonies. His real name is believed to be Maewyn Succat and he took on the name Patrick upon becoming a priest. 7. Peace to all; you are free to believe whatever you like.

[@Lite_Fare]

@@barbarawatson1116 Lay off the Benzadrine.

[@matthewwilson3202]

His ancestors were 'of the purple' I.e part of the roman administration this doesnt mean he was a from rome merely the descendant of the romanized celtic brythonic people the Roman's had incorporated into their empire

[@scotsexile1]

I am a Scot from Glasgow with Irish descent on one side of my Family so I know a lot about the Ulster connection but I think lfewer cheap jokes would have made this more interesting.

[@bexfun]

You're obviously not too in touch with your ulster heritage if you don't find Tim McGarry funny 😄

[@columbannon9134]

This is completely wrong, it was the Irish that went first to Scotland for the Scots was an Irish tribe.

[@christopherphillipskeates9194]

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[@amanb8698]

The Irish, Scottish, Ulster Scots, and Welsh, look nothing like the English. The real English look like the Germans and Dutch. Just a fact look at DNA charts. The Irish, Scottish, Ulster Scots, Welsh, Manx, and Cornish cluster in one area, and the English cluster with Germans and Dutch on the mainland. Sure many English have Briton in them and thus many cluster in between the Irish/Scottish Gaelic group and the German/Dutch group. But overall the Isles can be divided between Celtic and Germanic. Both groups have DNA admixture from Vikings and Norman's. Now as an American with mainly Germanic and Celtic forebears with some Baltic admixture, of both continental and isles origins, and with Protestant Lutheran, Huguenot, Methodist, Anglican and Roman Catholic ancestors I could care less about religion, nor any of that in the US I'm just a White person, or White/European American. I look Germanic-Celtic primarily such as Ewan McGregor, Tim Roth, Daniel Craig, and Michael Fassbender but also have features like more Germanic folk from the mainland like Thomas Kretschmann, Til Schweiger, and Matthias Schweighöfer. I think what gives me a Germanic-Celtic mix is my dark blonde hair and red beard. I notice many people of this phenotype typically have blonde hair and reddish beards with a mixture of Germanic and Celtic features. Germanics and Celtics (mainland) had mixed before, but the Isles Celts show differences with Mainland Celts. Now I have some Baltic and maybe Slavic from the German side mixing with them as well. Thus German DNA changed a bit in appearance when they absorbed Balto-Slavic peoples. Whereas the Germanic English absorbed only Isles Celts so changed a bit more in Celtic direction.

[@joehiggs100]

Yeah, can tell that from your picture.

[@ulsterscotsman6648]

@@joehiggs100 lol

[@davehoward22]

That is the biggest load of stereotypical cobblers ive ever heard in my life. The "scots irish" are scots /english for a start.The vikings and the normans have both invaded ireland and england,and dna has shown the anglo saxons invasion wasnt anywhere near as large as previously thought. You honestly think that the english,irish,scots and welsh have all strictly lived and worked and bred within set borders,with just their own "people"? The people of these islands have been constantly moving around,invading and immigrating and breeding for thousands of years.. Theres over twice as many people of celtic heritage in england then Ireland,scotland and Wales combined by the way

[@raleighburner1589]

Apparently Tom hardy is of Irish decent ,so are the krays, so Is the smiths,so Is oasis , so Is paddy McGuiness , so is the sex pistols ,so Is pier's Morgan ,so is half the Beatles, also when the Norse Vikings founded cork city in 800 ad a lot of southern Irish blood is from Norway

[@Gamenetreviews]

Love old timy race science

[@conormirgan8917]

Brexit. The final episode of Ulsters Crotch

[@boabcuthill6372]

Scotland was named after Princess Scotia the Egyptian Princess, Ireland was known as Scotia major and Scotland Scotia minor, also the term Gael came from her Greek husband King Gaythelos, a lot of so called myths and legends regarding Ireland and Scotland are actually based on fact. England is also Gaelic you can tell by the spelling in it's old form Angle/land before that An/Gael/land

[@cabbott85va]

i call bullshit on that

[@tommac4733]

+Boab Cuthill Yer ma's in the Ra and yer da's in the stickys, speaking as a high priest of Atlantis (twinned with Ards)

[@gordondarker6835]

London =lun dun ie Gaelic Luns fort

[@DMG118]

I hate the fact that when I googled "ulster scots" that silly "language" pops up. It's an embarrassment to the Ulster Scots culture.

[@ayelads]

Please don't tell me these people call themselves Ulster-Scots