Ultegra 12 speed Super Compact is Super nice!

[@innocent7048]

This is by far my favorite channel. Very professional. Here you have a drop of oil.

[@ridesofjapan]

You are too kind sir 🙏

[@jacobbassboy7097]

Really apreciate your support for Ukraine. It gives me hope, that we would be able to ride as freely here as before. Cheers form UA

[@george.carlin]

Jacob, I visited Kharkiv about 6 years ago and was impressed by how many cyclists I saw on the central street during the cycling parade/event. Thousands! You guys are brave, keep kicking putler's invaders out and hopefully, states will send you enough M777 to do the job.

[@aaron___6014]

@@george.carlin 6 years later and post covid...people aren't cycling as much.

[@MrDtelson]

Thank You! I am an Allied Echo owner with 12 speed Ultegra D12 and this is the exact hack I was looking for. What others might not understand is this frameset only works with 12 speed Di2 due to limited wiring and cabling options thus we are stuck with the 12 speed DI2 world if using Shimano for the most part. I will consider the front crankset mod and or keep praying for GRX 12 speed Di2. Peace my brother!

[@ridesofjapan]

Cheers mate! Happy you found it useful. For whatever it’s worth I did run fully wired 11speed di2 before the 12speed came out. I’m with you on keeping my fingers crossed for 12speed grx soon!

[@CodyMH]

0:52 "It all started when I was a board one weekend..." Odd choice for a Halloween costume, but I like it!

[@chrikim67]

You might want to look into getting a Classified wheel set. Solves the issues with front derailleurs 🙂

[@JuvoII]

It's just that 2 different gear systems, to build something as simple as a bike, makes humans look abit dumb.

[@brauljo]

@@JuvoII What?

[@BrandonMeyer1641]

I approve of subcompact gearing. I run a 48-32 up front and initially an 11-34 out back. I found I wasn’t using the 11 much at all so when it was time for a new cassette I got a 12-36. Can’t say I’m disappointed. The times I’m spun out I wouldn’t want to go faster anyways because I wouldn’t have enough time to brake before flying off a mountain. Plus I get a lower gear for climbing up anything I want basically. Subcompact is the way to go for most riders imo especially if you ride gravel.

[@mattkavanaugh5623]

I run 48-31 GRX cranks with 11-36 cassette, and GRX RD. Works great. I did have an 11-42 cassette but that was overreaching the RD's capabilities... though the 31/42 ratio for climbing was almost like MTB gearing :)

[@swe223]

Adapt the gearing to your use and riding conditions. I often ride a TT bike with 1x 54t or 56t chainring, but I've gone as far as 42/28 and 11-36 on my gravel/bikepacking bike. Pretty good for long steep gravel climbs (endurance Z2) , perfect alignement when riding on the flat at ~30-35km/h. On the descents I spin out at 50km/h but when bikepacking, I prefer to rest anyway instead of pushing and wasting energy. So bigger doesn't really make any sense for that use.

[@andrep4435]

@@swe223 hey, how did you get to the 42/28. I’ve been thinking about doing something similar, looking at white industry’s crank set, for my gravel bike. Would be interested to know what components you used?

[@swe223]

@@andrep4435 My Gravel bike (Kona Sutra LTD) uses a MTB Bottom Bracket so it was a little bit easier for me. For example, I can use an XTR M980 crank which comes in 44-30 or 42-28, or any MTB crankset in 104/64 BCD and adapt any chainring on them. Personally I mounted Osymetric chainrings because I love them. With a road BB however it's hard to go below 30 because of the bigger BCD but it should still be good enough. For example GRX (46/30 natively with smaller BCD) or Absolute Black who makes 46/30 chainrings that go on 110BCD. But you can still compensate in the back with something like an XTR 11s 11-40.

[@andrep4435]

@@swe223 thx!

[@roberthealey6820]

A 200km ride the day before your gravel event?! Kudos!! Awesome video as always, thank you! 👍

[@n.heroep2786]

You can buy an adapter "Wickwerks Fit Link" to lower your FD. I transformed my 50/34 to 46/34 with this adapter.

[@galenkehler]

One of the cool things about SRAM's original front road derailleurs was they had 2 threaded holes on the derailleur so you could just mount in the upper hole for CX (or super compact)

[@stevethistle7974]

your rides scare me but i really enjoy your videos and content. Favourite bike site for sure. you are a funny man. Thanks for doing these.

[@Otso_66N]

Unusual stuff for this channel but my experience will build the gravelking SS tires fame ! I use them (700x35) on a tracklocross bike (48-19 ratio) and they are really awesome ! Amazing skid resistance and good dry off-road performance ! I might actually get another set for my road/CX/gravel Spé Crux

[@BetterShifting]

You’re one of my favourite lunatics :)

[@jennibristol7720]

We had the same front derailleur issue, not being able to lower it enough. We solved this by using the Shimano GRX front derailleur.

[@albertkikstra]

Nice setup! Looking forward to meeting you in Kashiwazaki.

[@danial17011]

Waow, i Wish we could see you actually riding more. Great filming

[@stevenpike7530]

Great fun…as always…

[@AdamQueen]

Exactly the same problem here, I tried 46/32 chain rings (extra 2mm offset inward to handle that 32t on Shimano cranks). The 2mm offset is not that bad, but the FD not low enough is a problem, causing chain drop and poor FD shifting performance. But that 46/32 chainring combined with 11/34 cassette provide some super awesome ratio. Although finally I go 38t + 11/40 M8000 cassette (with RX817 RD), despite the extra noise on that 40t cog, it's mostly fine. Now my desire for that super compact chainring is brought back!

[@Gabe73C]

Always love watching your videos. Educational and entertaining with great production quality. You always get me to laugh.👍

[@ucdescents]

Thank you for sharing this! It would be great if you displayed the speed on your descents.

[@savagepro9060]

11:23 GCN calls this Free Hub Sound Check. It's a sexy selling point!

[@otsuu]

Thanks!

[@ridesofjapan]

Det är jag som ska tacka! Tack!

[@ryanfrederick3557]

Great stuff lately; thank you! I picked up a laser level and it’s been one of my best investments ;) Now looking to go 12 speed but Ultegra is still semi-difficult to come by in Canada. Are you familiar with Alex’s cycle in Japan? Are they reputable?

[@ridesofjapan]

Cheers mate! Don't have any experience with Alex Cycle sorry. I'm a little bit confused though, if they are an authorized Shimano dealer, they should not be allowed to ship Shimano products overseas to different Shimano territories... Which makes me believe they are a "grey market" dealer. Just speculations though. Thanks again!

[@reinholdachleitner2069]

Awesome video and nice Sugino front derailleur adapter,stainless hardware and mount I'm sure,it sounded like you had a swarm of giant Japanese hornets behind you,no was just your freehub.Safe riding.💯✌🏻👌🏻

[@ohiomoto]

Great video as always. I haven't had slicks on my gravel bike in a few years now. I find that I'm fine with my Gravel King SK tires for the roads and speeds I ride. The extra comfort and confidence on broken roads along with the ability to explore a little off-road have changed "road-riding" for me. I want to try the SS next to see what they do in the gravel.

[@charlesblithfield6182]

Gravel King SS 38 is my favorite tire.

[@raceace]

That free wheel sounds like a Japanese Cicada through the bends. I miss those rural roads so much, such enjoyable rides. But those roads in Niigata are a bit rough in comparison, especially Joetsu.

[@bobcabot]

that´s a darn clean road! wow

[@MatthewLister]

Really interesting - thanks!

[@consistentwinner]

must be a real challenge to bike when cars drive on the wrong side of the road:) My next build is going to be Ultegra 12 speed !

[@aucklandtoday9847]

Awesome vids. Dam you have some nice bikes

[@tomcruz3774]

Mitsumine Ginger made me lol. I do something similar with my friends

[@SiopaoSauc3]

Love my GK SSs in 38, but I've been wanting a slightly wider tyre. Looking at the Maxxis Receptors in 40c which seems close enough to the SS without going up to the 43s. Also cool Hi-Ace camper at 13:55.

[@paulb9769]

Loved the down hill at least you ride on the correct side of the road in Japan!

[@awildcyclistappears]

Tobias, when you say "road surface takes a nose dive" you obviously never been to Poland :D Great video as always :)

[@ridesofjapan]

Its all relative in the end :) Cheers mate!

[@owenanstey436]

Nice descending, had me leaning over on the computer chair.

[@arturgdanski]

Great vid as usual, but this bonus clip.. stunning! I love descents on road as well as on a gravel bike but at 15:59 my brain just keeps telling "braaake" 😁

[@ridesofjapan]

Now be honest, you’re on rim brakes right? (I kid I kid) Cheers mate!

[@arturgdanski]

@@ridesofjapan … haha, reminded me that I need your #DiscBrakeDeathSquad tshirt. Just so there’s no confusion out on the streets 😎😁

[@leftymadrid]

At that speed on that descent with cars. I would not even be able to talk!!

[@mozismobile]

I normally watch everything at 2x speed. But the downhill ride videos get a bit scary at 2x speed.

[@JibbaJabber]

@11:23 And there's me thinking - I wish he'd just keep pedaling, that buzz is killing my chill 😁 #ASMR

[@vincentvolmer5076]

You’ve got balls 🚵🏻‍♂️ 🔥, what a speed level🙈

[@roberthealey6820]

Oh and a sweet descend! 😁

[@pierrehennion717]

Super nice cap! 😎

[@Konzuug]

Definitely a like for that intro haha

[@keithc5729]

Wickwerks also sells a part that will lower the front D. But when I tried this, the front D. hit the seat tube. On some bikes the seat tube flares out where it joins the bottom bracket. My front D. hit the seat tube.

[@martinhotan8946]

GRX 11 Speed or the new 12 Speed version would have cured some of the issues - right ? Anyhow, as always - way cool show 👍🤟👍

[@Kermitonwheels]

Still looked like a lovely flowy descent. Appreciate your videos and you count on at least one person laughing at your jokes haha.

[@maxbucky24]

1yr later and grx 12spd is finally seen on a pros bike

[@markanderson7412]

Gday and how’s it going? Please have you had any issues with the Easton ec90 crank/cinch system? Spindle inserts into cranks and pedal threads. Also have you had a look at the cinch power meter Thanks for all the great info with effort put into all the videos. 👍🤙

[@ridesofjapan]

Zero insert issues. (I follow the instructions and always use the included washers) Cheers!

[@robertwilliams9322]

I’ve snapped a Dura Ace big ring. I’ve been using ultegra ever since

[@hiimjonpaul]

Damn Dude, those perspective shots make me want to get out like now.How do you get those perfect perspective shots on your descent ?

[@donttouchthisatall]

yaay new video! I bet its a banger!

[@desmondyap5391]

Looking forward for the 105 di2.

[@JohnyPedaluga]

я плохо знаю английский но я все нахуй понял!))) и "бонус" концовка отличная

[@martinhartmann3121]

How did you get those gravel king SS so neatly shaved? Don't tell me you plucked out hair by hair, please..

[@nick37781]

RIDES OF JAPAN please try a wick work chainring and compare it to your setup to see if it truly shifts faster than dura ace. Especially on a standard 53 tooth setup

[@monty2078]

Your my favourite presenter👍I know you are a Shimano fan boy. I have 2 11 speed Shimano Ultegra bikes, but this year I was building a new bike ( Argon 18, Krypton Pro) so in reviewing groupsets ( I live in a hilly area and am an olderr rider) I decided to go Sram Axs as I could get a 43/30 with a 12 speed 10/36. One 1 of my Shimanos I use Standard compact and an 11/34 and on the other one I use a standard compact with an 11/40. Shimano is back in the dark (racing) ages when it comes to road groupsets and I am fed up with constantly fiddling to get the gearing I need.

[@corvus400]

Looks like very few cars.Roads are smooth enough.

[@Losman0007]

I knew OCD was your Super Power....great!

[@GLAJMAN]

I'm a bicycle noob. Do you use brakes while you are cornering? Can't differentiate between freehub noise and disk brakes. Really cool channel.

[@ridesofjapan]

You can't hear the brakes because they don't make any noise :) Majority of braking happen before the corner. If there is any breaking through a corner it just light feathering of the brakes.

[@GLAJMAN]

@@ridesofjapan Thank you for the reply! Those downhills look really amazing. Makes me want to try them.

[@alexdyke7176]

What's the weight now with Easton and 2x compared to thm?

[@Sam-fg6bt]

Please review planet x tempest would love to see your opinions etc bought one as my first propper bike cheers guys

[@rasmusfjordside]

@ridesofjapan Thank you for another great video! I was wondering how the road rear derailleur (with no clutch!) handles gravel (light gravel / cad 2 / cad 3) compared to the GRX Di2 rear derailleur in your opinion?

[@ridesofjapan]

Not really ridden any proper gravel.. but I can already say that it’s more chainslap for sure without that clutch. I’m definitely picking up a clutch 12speed di2 RD as soon as they release one. Question is, will it be XTR or GRX that comes first? 🫣

[@rasmusfjordside9755]

Thank you for your reply! I was looking at the 105 di2 for an all road build on a gravel frame - with the possible future upgrade to a GRX 12 speed rear mech. But I don’t like the idea of scraping the paint off my chainstays before that GRX mech maybe or maybe not turns up. Maybe I’ll just go full bonanza with the EKAR group - it sure is light…

[@christianwparker]

Allied bikes routinely mount there front derailleur braze on too hi. Even with a 50 tooth ring, the gap is too big. This is a big oversight not shared by other brands.

[@M9IN0G]

Freehub sounds like a swarm of angry bees. :D

[@11robotics]

It being Di2 and disc brake only made me switch irrevocably to Campagnolo :( aside from the crankset, the 48/31 GRX being just perfect for my gearing needs

[@j18ter]

@11robotics wrote: "switch to Campagnolo ... aside from ... 48/31 GRX crankset". I would love something like this. What is your exact setup, 11 or 12 speed RD? Do you use a GRX FD with Campy shifter? Or Campy FD? How reliable is the front shifting?

[@11robotics]

@@j18ter here's my setup: Campagnolo Centaur 11 levers and rear derailleur, Campagnolo Chorus 11 front derailleur (had a Centaur 11 before, the Chorus 11 is like 15g lighter and 100% compatible), Shimano GRX FC-RX810-2 crankset (originally with 48/31 chainrings, now with Specialités TA 46/30 chainrings), Campagnolo Potenza 11-32 cassette, Campagnolo Potenza chain. It shifts perfectly well in the front, with either the Centaur 11 or the Chorus 11 FD and with either the 48/31 original chainrings or the 46/30 Specialités TA ones. One minor issue though: the larger chainline of the GRX chainset compared to the standard road double chainline. Even though it shifts perfectly fine, the chainrings being 2.5-3 mm further out than they're supposed to be means that the chain is noisier when you use the large chainring with the largest 3-4 sprockets. The Campagnolo chain is also noisier in this scenario than the Shimano ones, which is why I will soon switch back to Shimano Ultegra cassettes and Shimano chains. With this setup, the chain is only slightly noisy when on the largest chainring and the two largest sprockets, which I seldom/never use as gear ratios anyway. Also, if you have a braze-on front derailleur, make sure it can slide down low enough to accomodate the 48 or 46 chainrings. Some frames don't allow you to go lower than the position for a 50 chainring. Mine has a round seat tube and a clamp mount, so I had no issue in setting the front derailleur at the correct height.

[@j18ter]

@@11robotics, the quick and very detailed reply is much appreciated. I'll have to think this over. The chain line issue is a good point (and to a lesser extent Q factor as well). I've considered the Rene Herse cranks for this very reason. They claim compatibility with Campy, even 12 speed. The required square taper BB is a little unorthodox for a modern bike, but maybe not out of place for my steel bike. Lowering the FD should not be difficult, as it's mounted with a clamp like yours.

[@11robotics]

@@j18ter you're welcome! You may also want to consider the 12-speed Chorus 48/32 crankset. I nearly bought it twice, but decided to stick to the GRX one so I can have access to decently priced chainrings. The GRX is a really versatile crankset for what it's worth, there are even 44/28 chainrings from Specialités TA for it if such a need should arise, and the default 48/31 gear combo is largely sufficient for typical road bike use cases.

[@EndoplasmicReticulum7]

Haha, I‘d love to know what the car driver thought as he/she was overtaken by a bike 😂😂😂😂.

[@mmiqdad]

will you be documenting the gravel event?

[@ridesofjapan]

Strava and Instagram most likely yes. Not a “produced” video here on KZbin since I’ll be busy riding the event.

[@Goriaas]

Shimano should sell a sub compact 46-30 or something or it should even be standard 90% of riders are not strong enough to require a 50-11 let's just be honest. And 46 is exactly the same gear as a 50-12

[@floam11]

Amazing videos, really appreciate them :) Can you tell which is the handlebar tape on the Allied? Thanks!

[@ridesofjapan]

Most superlight Cheers!

[@grahamwynde1176]

I’m enjoying GK semi-slicks at the moment. My Farsport Gravel wheels with DT Swiss 350 hubs (yeah, I know but match my 650b set) are almost SILENT, seriously

[@jaro6985]

DT350 hubs are super loud unless theyve been freshly packed or replaced with thicker grease than stock.

[@grahamwynde1176]

@@jaro6985 Maybe Farsports is a fan of RoJ and knows that quiet hubs make us happy? I know they loud AF normally. My 650b GR1600 are...

[@jaro6985]

@@grahamwynde1176 yeah possibly theyve been tweaked. When you clean them youll find out I guess

[@Azbram]

What camera do you use for the POV shots?

[@PKownzthem]

Just when I though „man would be nice to have a speed overlay“ you made an annotation haha Speed limits generally are for motor vehicles though (in europe), is that different in japan?

[@siffoine]

That is not true in this European country

[@Kirinji1kirinji]

Bicycles in Japan belong to the "unmotorized vehicle" category - so they're still considered "vehicles" and hence expected to abide by the same traffic rules as the motorized counterparts. PLUS some odd regulations, like "you're allowed to ride on the sidewalk at a speed that is slow enough for you to a complete stop at any given time IF said sidewalk is wider than 3 meters."

[@PKownzthem]

@@Kirinji1kirinji thank you!

[@jorenvandaele1301]

Have you had the problem with the easton cranks were they get a round crack on the inside of the crankarm? I love my easton ec90sl cranks but I just found the crack.

[@ridesofjapan]

No problems

[@ridethelakes]

I had what looked like cracks on the inside of my Easton ec90sl cranks, see reply I got from Stif Sports below: "They have confirmed that the marks you have spotted are from the production of the crank and do not affect its structure. The item is safe to use but please keep an eye on them, if any further marks appear get in touch straight away and we can investigate these for you. I have seen similar markings on Race Face cranks (Race Face and Easton are owned by the same company) and these are also marks from the production of the arm which do not affect the structure."

[@MrKruucks]

Is using an xtr rear derailleur not an option anymore? Edit: looks like that is not an option… yet

[@malteweling4010]

That Cap of yours is amazing🤩, how is it called or where can i buy it😬 i would appreciate a hint✌️

[@Hippiehansie]

Well, try buying something from Shimano. That is almost impossible in the Netherlands

[@Ropetable]

I love that freehub sound. Luckily haha...

[@hanziel]

what camera are you using for descent footage like that? it looks super clean! keep up the good stuff (:

[@ridesofjapan]

DJI pocket 2

[@hanziel]

@@ridesofjapan thanks (: quite impressive!

[@mareklesniak8768]

​ @Rides of Japan How does Ultegra perform compared to Dura Ace? Any noticeable difference in gear changes and durability?

[@el3ktrik0]

Huh... And I am still in a hunt for a 2nd hand 11s DA Di2 for my road bike

[@Kirinji1kirinji]

Same here. Ultegra 11-spd in my case 🥲

[@bengt_axle]

Does Ultegra Di2 use a position (cadence) sensor to time the shift so that the derailleur moves the cage so ramps on the chain ring pick up the chain at just the right moment? In other words, if you press the shift button at the wrong time, will the system compensate to wait until the ramps are in the right spot?

[@ridesofjapan]

no, shift happens at the time of pressing the button

[@projectcycling]

Have you ever tought about switching to sram axs wireless setup? I'm a shimano guy but I have to say that ditching the di2 battery and cabling is a total win imho

[@ridesofjapan]

Not even for a single second :)

[@paulb9769]

I am currently running a 2x9 and I love it. Is a 1x worth the sacrifice?

[@savagepro9060]

11:50 Rider: Finally a proper corner! Corner: Hmm, finally a proper potential victim!

[@DirkSachse]

How much does it set the FD back towards the rear wheel? Could you measure it please?

[@TheBRad704]

8:53 wait how'd you cross you first finger over your middle finger so smoothly...

[@luisguanzon]

Do you think my current Cannondale 10 arm spider ring (direct mount crank), currently on 11 speed setup, would work with three new ultegra 12 speed setup?

[@peterliljebladh]

Why don't frame manufacturers just make a mounting bracket that accommodates sizes from 28-60? I have the same problem with trying to fit a 58-tooth chainring on my time trial bike.

[@markachternaam5207]

Especially surprised that the allroad bike doesn't provide a mount that allows to go lower.

[@jonathanwoo6597]

Thanks for the video. I'll be attempting to put 9250 on my GRX equipped bike. I'm worried about the GRX's 47mm chainline. Your Easton crank has a 45mm chainline. On the big-small combo what is your FD's trim setting (-19 to +19)? I'm hoping I won't have to setup my GRX crank asymmetrically to accommodate the 9250 FD. Thanks.

[@ridesofjapan]

Nothing extreme like that, -6 / +6 or something like that, don’t remember exactly

[@jonathanwoo6597]

@@ridesofjapan Thanks. I put the -19/+19 there as each trim setting has different extreme end values.

[@pakelly99]

Ok, I’ll be the estupido one and ask, is this completely fine, being an 11 speed chainring / crankset within a 12 speed dura ace setup? Most particularly not asking for a friend, asking for my own personal benefit. 😅

[@ridesofjapan]

Unfortunately is hard to give a general answer that will cover all 11speed chainrings. But I’d say that most 2x 11speed chainrings will work fine with Shimano 12speed chains. However, 11speed 1x narrow-wide chainrings will generally NOT work with Shimano 12speed chain, as is the case with the Easton 1x 11speed chainrings.

[@markuspirker]

1x is the solution :)

[@Ropetable]

You should sell cycling caps, expert over there. Im sitting here dry

[@jabzero1]

He man, what socks are you wearing in your vids? Been looking for simple, clean pair.

[@ridesofjapan]

Fingers crossed socks

[@zhuangchenzhou1172]

Really interesting that the tires only blew up to close to 38mm! Are the rims on the narrow side?

[@ridesofjapan]

Gravelking tires seem to stay true to size in my experience. Rims are 21mm internal

[@spin2win721]

Look into E Thirteen cassettes. Get yourself a 9 tooth to match that sub compact 😀 all the gears you’ll ever want or need both on the high end and low end.

[@indorock]

Loud freehubs are indeed a solution made for the young folks, those who are too cool to install a bell or too socially awkward to shout "On your left!" (or I suppose in Japan something else) to slower cyclists.

[@robbeelsas]

What is this "bell" you are talking about? 🤣

[@rainbowlable]

In my experience people hear my free hub earlier than my bell. So I don't have to brake as often... 😁

[@IdolOracle]

Any issues with a 34t cassette on a standard rear derailleur? Do you have any kind of adapter for that, or is the cage long enough?

[@ridesofjapan]

New 12speed Shimano (Ultegra and dura ace) take 11-34 by design.

[@Clashing0N]

Currently trying to get lighter gears on my gravel bike with Shimano 12-speed di2 groupset. I’m a bit lost with what components I can mix and match. Found a 110bcd 46/30 chainring from Bikingreen that would solve the gearing issue but then I’d still have a rear derailleur without clutch. Would you happen to know if a 12-speed XT di2 derailleur would work with my setup? Thanks in advance for your reply!

[@ridesofjapan]

To my knowlege there’s no 12speed di2 clutch derailleur that work with the wireless 12speed shifters. The only one Shimano makes at the moment is e-bike specific one, and from what I’ve gathered it’s not compatible. I’m eagerly awaiting GRX 12speed di2 rumors for this year.

[@Clashing0N]

@@ridesofjapan A GRX 12-speed di2 would be the perfect solution… hopefully they will release it this year. For now settled on a 49/33 chainring that was readily available, paired with the 11-36 cassette that got released with the 105 groupset. Should get me up most mountains. Hopefully the gravel is smooth enough to not throw my chain off without a clutch 😅

[@ridesofjapan]

@Clashing0N having a front mech on will help a lot there 👍 We used to ride MTBs without clutches after all :)

[@TimboCruz]

Hey Tobias! I was wondering if you have had the issue with a noisy 5th cog with your Ultegra cassette? I just upgraded to 12 speed Ultegra and my 5th cog is ticking like it isn't indexed properly. It seems to be a known issue, so wondering if you've experienced it too.

[@ridesofjapan]

My ultegra is spot on, my DA setup on the other hand gave me more noise from the cassette area… the extralite HG freehub is a pretty loose fit with the 12speed cassettes, so did experiment with removing the adhesive ring behind the cassette. Got it pretty quiet now, but I still would say my Ultegra setup is quieter.

[@TimboCruz]

Interesting, my Ultegra has been really hard to set up right. I am hoping it will improve once it wears in. Last question - I’m running the same crank and chainrings and it has a tendency in the small ring to such the chain between the frame and the chainring. Wondering if you had any other tips or tricks to set up the Ultegra front mech with the Easton crank and chainrings?

[@Ninja_Revenge]

Too complicated setup; I would stay with brilliant grx di2 1x setup. Mitsumine hillclimb/descent tis great, but lowest part of the road is awful, plenty of pretty nasty potholes