Ultimate Admiral: Dreadnoughts - A Very American Battleship (Alpha 9) [Battleship]

[@zedoktor979]

This game really needs to increase barbette and tower placement freedom. The restrictions demonstrated in this are creativity crippling.

[@basmbee4325]

barbettes on turrets/barbettes on barbettes :)

[@christopherstone4336]

@@basmbee4325 uuuuu

[@o1dVersionGameWorld]

I was one of the guys who have mentioned a pitch/roll stat. Nice to hear you noticed them. But yeah, when you build super heavy BBs with a lot of guns, 30 - 40 roll/pitch is ok-ish, especialy with this amount of guns . Also it suits the the scenario - it says speciftcally to go after as many guns as possible, not after accuracy. However, i would like to give you and anyone who is interested a couple of tips to reduce the pitch/roll debuffs: Pitch: - Put main armament turrets as close as possible to the center/super structure. Downside: You will sacrifice the firing arks, make sure you have just enough angles for comfortable firing solutions. - Make center of the ship as heavy as possible. Heavy main belt/deck armor, heavy diesel engine with a lot of power (fast speed/funnels), heavy secondary armament at center, all or nothing citadel etc. all helps. - Reduce the extended armor. Like someone pointed out, historically, only crucial parts of the ship were heavily protected (with all or nothing armor scheme). I was testing 3-5" extended armor on bbs, never got flash fire or any destructive hits, only overpens. But dont quote me on this one. - Reduce the caliber of main guns. Sometimes, you can go lower caliber, which means lower weight on both ends of the ship, but still get similar performance (like 15"mk4 is alsmost as good in every aspect as 16"mk3) - Go for a longer/bigger ship hull. Yes, you will have a lot of free space on deck and a larger turn circle but the platform will become way more stable and weight distribution easier. Roll: - No wing main turrets. they will destroy your roll stat. - Heavy secondary should be put as close to centerline as possible. Preferably on superstructure or centerline barbets. - Torpedo tubes are also pretty heavy. Dont expect torpedo battleship to be particularly accurate for example. As you can see, almost every measure you can take is a bargain with other stats/gear. But i would like to see your attempt in building a "sniper battleship" in some scenario. P.S. If anyone who read this has any further tips or anything to add, please do.

[@derrickubay-ubay9503]

Stealth must see this

[@o1dVersionGameWorld]

@@derrickubay-ubay9503 He did. He upvoted this comment, but after i edited some spelling mistakes, his logo disappeared. Main thing is - he is aware of this mechanics now and we might see more interesting and diverse designs in the future.

[@o1dVersionGameWorld]

I just did a test run to verify what i listed in the post and give some kind of reference point. I will only give a broad information and accuracy results to not ruin the fun. Yamato shaped object: Displacement: 106,050t Main Armament: 3x3 18" Secondary Armament: 6x2 6"; 18x3 2" Armor: 3"- 25" (Specific information is top secret) Pitch: 8.9 Roll: 2.4 Fore Weight Offset: 2.5 Equipment: Radar II Sterioscopic Rangefinder V Weather condition debuffs: Morning Time -2.5% Accuracy 30 km: 3.5 - 3.8% BB Target@32knts 25 km: 6.8% Engine hit 20 km: 13% 15 km: 26% Target destroyed P.S. This was apparently a pretty lucky run, as enemy BB had very large profile. In my other runs, results were somewhere in between 50%-80% of shown accuracy results.

[@hugostiglitz7373]

I would like to see an extremely long range battleship as well.

[@soangkeareaksmey1034]

Didn’t expect the Japanese BB to perform emergency turret ejection that early

[@KaiserStormTracking]

@Reactivewheel11 Nat geo during a war in a nutshell

[@jamesgroccia644]

Timestamp for the whole explosion is 17:49

[@dilligafdude9434]

Somali pirate tactics. Cant be charged for anything if the evidence is at the bottom of the ocean.

[@lennartmeinke8861]

Hello everyone, this is Stealth. Today, I will build the USS Second Amendment for you, hope you like it

[@dimi2065]

Best home defense weapon: A Super battleship from 1940. And also that is the best name to possibly imagine.

[@lennartmeinke8861]

Dimi 206 I Pro: mean, no one gets up after getting hit by that. Con: Your neighborhood just stopped existing

[@dimi2065]

Edit: the 5 inch bazooka is the best home defense weapon

[@raychn8783]

Ahhh... Drach, oh no

[@JerrySmith_598]

Would you rather this or a girlfriend lol

[@blazingbl2gamingop794]

To quote Marcus from the borderlands franchise "Guns, guns, guns!" "You need them, I've got them!" "If you buy from another place I'll have you killed."

[@Stealth17Gaming]

Remember, no refunds.

[@rossboss8350]

Glad to see that I'm not the only one who's a fan of borderlands

[@dimi2065]

The USA Navy or by long: The United States of Armament Navy

[@JRock3091]

And the IJN like lightning ran from the guns of the USN

[@gregorytu8357]

'MERICA

[@Karagianis]

I love how a maximum size battleship hull is actually too long to fit in the drydock!

[@Western_1]

The devs really just need to give players more freedom with everything as far as the ship designer is concerned.

[@nightwolf2378]

A perfect situation, the AI builds something bigger, and much deadlier then what stealth builds, This is a rare occurrence, Great Video!

[@KaidenOZ]

they need to get rid of the hardpoint system and just have a grid overlay for the deck that you can snap too if you want. the hardpoint system is far to restrictive esp for barbetts

[@bruuh4842]

As an American and this makes me happy.

[@beware3586]

if this game had pvp world of warships would die overnight.

[@puki860]

Yes

[@wafflepack0199]

And probably all brings BB class to the battle xD

[@beware3586]

@@wafflepack0199 That would depend on the person but it wouldn't surprise me. Still would that be a bad thing? Nothing is more sexy than a bunch of big guns

[@wafflepack0199]

@@beware3586 ikr but at the end it wouldn't balance and sucks for the one who bring dd and cruiser's xD

[@beware3586]

@@wafflepack0199 Not really In this game as compared to wows using main batteries on cruisers is a waste. They dont do any significant damage to BB's (like real life) and you wont hit dds. So if you spend several salvos targetting cruisers youre going to get sunk by the enemy bbs. Meanwhile the dds are a threat but the cruisers will want to focus them. As would be in real life

[@stormybrain239]

If someone closes a door too fast or bumps into the side of a corridor in the end, the entire ship will be doomed

[@not2tired]

Sailor throws shoe at spider...

[@Stupid_lil_rat]

Captain: crew why are we tilting Crew: i close the door too fast... Captain: god dang it that why you should not close the door too fast!... wait...

[@gawrgurahololive-en1807]

Just fart or a sneeze'll be enough.

[@notazerg]

I sent in a scenario called "centralized power" that would really fit addressing the pitch issue. Not so much the roll though. Maybe it could jump the line to address the topic.

[@imapopo2924]

Maryland floating around on .5% structural integrity: I didn't hear no bell.

[@kevinrowe6902]

The devs should give you a red/green scale indicator for pitch roll and fore-aft offsets. Something like ship outlines or like an artificial horizon on an aircraft

[@captaindain7496]

Maryland uses special ability “Refuse to Die”: ITS SUPER EFFECTIVE

[@TrueRainsie]

Seems like ammo detonations don't affect how much ammo is actually left.

[@maximilianhaller4428]

17:47 Here you see the first Japanese space programm as they tried to lauch the first ever rocketturret into space.

[@六工業のカービィ]

if US keeps sending ships like that. Enemies just got overwhelmed by speed of building, and efficiency of ships,

[@Bulbasir130]

“Sir how many guns do you want on the ship?” “Yes”

[@mattc4013]

I can see that ship with "U.S.S. AMERICA F*CK YEAH" painted on the side of it.

[@KaiserStormTracking]

Y E S

[@invadegreece9281]

*FREEDOM IS THE ONLY WAY YEAH*

[@ogscarl3t375]

Yeah unfortunately 10 inches of belt on a battleship in this game isn't really considered tanky that's actually what the ww1 era british battlecruisers were sailing around with and the only one's that didn't blow were HMS Tiger and a few others if your gonna go for max tank build 15 inch is probably the largest caliber you can go with without sacrificing all other aspects of the ship highly recommend a minimum of 13 inch main & extended belt for future builds.

[@derweltenbauer269]

She's about as American as a diabetes epidemic, and I can almost hear the Fortunate Son roaring from her in the distance, but unfortunately, her efficacy cannot be denied.

[@PaDDy7389]

17:54 The moment Japan started its space program.

[@Oryb]

the game: How many guns do you want? Stealth17: Uhhhh, yes

[@lustvolleswolfchen7784]

A little scenario I thought about would be a BB with minimun armor and only the smallest caliber guns on it.

[@thedyingmeme6]

That would be a PT boat. _fast boi go pew pew_

[@KG-1]

6" fight where 5" go IRL American tower.

[@SpartanGaming7739]

He’s created a battleship to challenge the Bismarck

[@Prestiged_peck]

He forgot the little baby emplacements right at the tips of the bow and stern for 2/3 inchers!

[@drtidrow]

Rather rude of them bringing 20" guns... knew that you didn't have enough armor, probably would have been better off sacrificing that central turret and using the tonnage on more armor.

[@alyx8522]

north Dakota was the saddest anime death

[@oilczar]

You just gave Wargames another idea for a Montana hybrid (like Ohio) 😉

[@juicemeister1984]

How the hell do you balance a ship with the 20 of these 16in guns for it's main battery, and not counting all the secondaries. It will be atleast a tier 13

[@ronaldmcreagann6343]

Didn’t even notice till a rewatch; there are gun points at the very front and f the ship. Wont help much, but neat to know.

[@leandrobalino475]

Battleship conning towers weighed hundreds of tons. 1 ton for every inch of armor is just ridiculous. The british even dropped them entirely after WWI, because they were not used and weren't really efective.

[@farhanrahmaddani3218]

that one bolt that keeps the meryland float

[@Starfleet8555]

These two ships were probably the most poorly protected battleships. 10 inches of armor? No wonder they sank. But, Armaments on those things are ridiculous lol. Anyway great video.

[@AdamSmith-kq6ys]

If you're that close you can probably cut big chunks off your deck armour. Unless they're firing mortars at you, nothing's going to come crashing down into your deck...

[@KaiserStormTracking]

Mortars mean nothing to his ship We shall call it The Washington class battleship HAIL THE GLORIOUS US NAVY

[@aaronp3411]

I’d like to see the same battle but with a focus on survivability and less on secondaries. Maybe bigger main guns. I’d say you could pull it off then.

[@SYSSMouse]

Think of the center of mass of the battleship. The main/secondary tower in later tech tends to be close to the center of the ship so they will not affect the pitch and roll much. Pitch is affected by the heavy objects placed at the bow/stern of the ship away from the center of mass - mostly centerline guns Likewise the roll is affected by heavy objects placed at the poert/starboard side of the ship - mostly heavy secondaries and wing turrets

[@gawrgurahololive-en1807]

Behind the scene Maryland wasn't scuttled after Second Battle of Guadalcanal, it was towed to nearest US Navy/Marine base and due to her damage turned into floating coastal battery.

[@warbirdgaming8091]

Youy got unlucky with the AI choice of ships, but yeah, i would say you sunk the Japanese home fleet.

[@thedyingmeme6]

*Taffy 3 flashbacks*

[@KaiserStormTracking]

Midway flashbacks

[@jacksondavis8940]

If the Maryland made it back it might be repaired for propaganda purposes as a lucky or unsinkable ship

[@barleysixseventwo6665]

The only improvement I can think of is putting the Z-Turret on top of a Barbette if possible so you could fit more 5" guns along the side of the ship without obstructing the turret's firing arcs.

[@noone-nr2kk]

I just tried it. You can put two barbettes for main guns on the stern, together with a tall secondary barbette . Also one of the smaller barbettes can be put between the a and b turret to place another secondary turret. That allows for 5 centerline main turrets, two centerline secondaries on barbettes and a lot of secondaries around the barbettes.

[@DarkestVampire92]

As a hobby naval engineer and historian, this hurts me physically. "Why cant i place a turret there? Why cant i place a turret here? Why dont 8inch guns fit into slots made for 40mm AA guns?" The "Empty deck space" is there because of boilers and engines below deck, by the way. They have to be put somewhere or your ship doesnt move.

[@tentacultist34-36]

That moment when it’s still on semi-oil

[@shawa666]

O I L

[@o1dVersionGameWorld]

50% Oil 50% gun recoil propultion. Sounds very american to me...

[@tentacultist34-36]

We Americans need maximum oil

[@KaiserStormTracking]

@@o1dVersionGameWorld No maximum oil. We sail to the middle east for maximum oil bois

[@juangonzalez9848]

Not saying it’s a good idea to split your fire all the time, but when the Akagi was angled you should have fired at the one giving you full broadsides.

[@KaiserStormTracking]

Game:how many guns you want on your ship? Stealth:Y E S Viewers: He has become a god!

[@mikhailiagacesa3406]

A confused Japanese Admiral snatches defeat from the very jaws of victory...again.

[@EliB207]

It looks like a mix of the Nelson and the Uss Florida

[@skwal5464]

"A Very American Battleship" * use french quadruple gun turret *

[@gawrgurahololive-en1807]

Actually first quads where developed by americans and russians together in 1908. Than in 1910 appeared so called "french design" with "two-twins" in a turret.

[@LuvLikeTruck]

Tillman would be proud

[@NaenaeGaming]

Title: A Very American Battleship Thumbnail: British style quad turrets

[@joef-s8048]

dreadnoughts were british

[@NaenaeGaming]

@@joef-s8048 HMS Dreadnought was British, and gave rise to the dreadnought battleships, however not all of them were British

[@KaiserStormTracking]

when America builds a battleship that can't be countered in 2010 China in 2030:RUN DAMNIT

[@Yoko_Grim]

I mean, I see it like this. If there's 4+ of these ships, they're going to WRECK HOUSE. 2 wrecked house as is, but FOUR?... This design is the kinda design that made Yamato so strong, big, bulky, but LOADED with guns.

[@ChesapeakeHammockandOutdoors]

That's my Maryland!

[@nicholasuszko]

In regards to the pitchbof the ship, you have a tendency to move you main battery as far apart as possible trying to fix the weight offset. This you eng up with main battery spead out one the ends of the ship instead of grouped in the middle. You want them as close together as possible on the center line.

[@BTebus]

If you have never played a call of duty game, you have never experienced real rage

[@silascargan8315]

Fabricant: How many guns should the ship have. Murica: yes

[@cccaaawww8685]

No you can’t just call it very American because it has a lot of guns You need a shotgun hamburger and bacon

[@KaiserStormTracking]

F A C T S I call his ship the Washington Class

[@cccaaawww8685]

@@KaiserStormTracking no call it the kfc Kentucky

[@KaiserStormTracking]

@@cccaaawww8685 NO CALL IT THE WASHINGTON CLASS DAMNIT

[@cccaaawww8685]

@@KaiserStormTracking sir yes sir

[@trainboi777yall6]

@@KaiserStormTracking first ship: uss washington secondship: uss FREEDOM

[@slayedice1647]

I think this would be a lose lose situation, because the Japanese lost two BB's equaling to about 240,000 tons and the US basically lost both BB's because I mean, it barely floats and If a storm hits or you run out of fuel, which is possible counting 2 out of the 3 engines are dead. That BB may as well call for destroyers and get picked up to go home.

[@warlord8525]

This was basically a Tillman class battleship.

[@KaiserStormTracking]

No this was a Washington class super battleship HAIL US NAVY

[@nigelwigglwattle]

A certain senator Tillman would approve of this monstrosity

[@btemplar428]

I AINT HEAR NO BELL! *DINGDING*

[@matthewcaughey8898]

This ship would be abandoned and scuttled

[@caryeckland3038]

I always knew my home state would be the most powerful ship ever built! mwahahahaha!!!

[@Xenotric]

Pitch and roll seem entirely there to try and make you limit guns added but not really enough of an issue to outweigh the benefits of more gun

[@worththesqueeze1386]

Maybe she hits a penguin on the way home and goes down

[@johnchambers9949]

Merry Christmas to you from England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🎄

[@danielshapiro7169]

Something's been bugging me, and I cannot find it in the game's "Help" section. What do the rings labeled "F1G Near" and "F1G Far" indicate?

[@Stealth17Gaming]

It's the flagship. If ships are closer to the flagship then they get a bonus to accuracy.

[@danielshapiro7169]

@@Stealth17Gaming Oh! Thank you so much, I couldn't figure that out. I thought it was zones of invulnerability or something like that, but their placement just didn't make sense. Thanks Stealth, please keep the great content coming!

[@CharliMorganMusic]

If at least half of it's armament isn't 50 cals, it isn't an American weapon system

[@KingJeager1]

Stealth, you need to start putting on more deck and top turret armor, deck armor would have helped with those shells coming in from above

[@KingJeager1]

@john smith exactly, if you want a lot of belt armor, ya gotta close in, which seeing your battleship tactics so far; you need to out on some deck, extended deck, and top turret armor. Cause those turrets right there, have one shell pen the top and go into the turret, and what's right below the turret? The magazine of the ship. Its probably how that German Frankenstein of a ship you made lost its two front turrets now that I think back on it

[@luciancondon]

I know this is an old video, but I think once the Americans come out, it would hilarious if you went with an all guns campaign where if it fits it sits

[@mkevilempire]

Could redo this, rule out enemy torpedoes, saving on the protection and making it possible to start off at point blank distance

[@ThePanzerKorps]

Have you tried the casemates?

[@floatingfortress9789]

Ok we need a bb that has lots and lost of guns bit no aa guns

[@ldowney0127]

Think the US template needs some work. More real estate in the back? Tower more forward?

[@OrbInDaFrame]

When I saw a trailer for this game it seemed very interesting Now I get to see if its worth it or not

[@aaronp3411]

It’s really odd that 30-some 20s got put down by 40 16s, especially when maneuvering wasn’t much of an option and they had dozens of smaller barrels plus torpedo launchers thrown in to boot.

[@aaronp3411]

@john smith The USN did build 18” guns (18"/48 caliber Mark 1), as did the British with the BL18"/45 (45.7 cm) Mark II , and the French developed the 450mm Mle 1920 (17.7”). The reason no one deployed them (other than the Japanese) was the Washington and then London Naval Treaties, followed by the issues with lead times involved large naval guns built and deployed with the time crunches associated with the war after the Treaties fell apart (the same reasons the King George Vs had 14s when everyone else had 15s/16s, including the British). If the US had known the Japanese built the Yamatos with 18s, the US would have responded in kind.

[@aaronp3411]

@john smith They were well aware of the Yamato class, true. However it was after they’d been built, launched, commissioned, and in service for a few years that they learned they had 18” guns. They went with 16”/45 then 16”/50 after the Japanese backed out of the treaty system because they thought that was the largest guns the Japanese industry could produce. If the USN had been aware of the 18s, they would have built their own based on the Mark Is already developed. Saying that anything over 16” isn’t more effective is fallacy to begin with. That’s why the competing navies always upped the caliber from 12s etc over time. Larger projectiles carry more energy and are inherently more destructive. A 1400 lbs projectile at 2700 fps (14”/45 AP) is less destructive than a 2700 lbs projectile @ 2500 fps (16”/50 super heavy AP) and a 3200 lbs projectile @ 2600 fps is more destructive still. If they’d ever done something with still larger guns (the 51 cm/45 Type 98), it’s 4400 lbs projectile would have been even more destructive than the 46cm guns.

[@awhahoo]

Gonna have to get this game

[@walterengler5709]

OK not sure if this ship would meet the details in the Second London Naval Treaty - But it is an American ship sooooo ... Tally Hoooo!!! Nice.

[@nigelwigglwattle]

You could always just lie about how much it weighs

[@walterengler5709]

@@nigelwigglwattle Or just reclassify things as incidental and not included in weight calcs. Ammo, not bolted down so not part of ship incidental. Anchors and chains easily removable so not part of weight. Fuel pumps in as needed so not included. Look there the guns actually move up and down .. why they aren't bolted to the ship the really rest and balance on it so lets not include. Yep that would be American accounting lol

[@raxsavvage]

at least someone gets to play this

[@ethanquillen7368]

Are you ever going to do War Game Red Dragon anymore?

[@Stealth17Gaming]

Yes

[@justsoicanfingcomment5814]

Should have sacrificed that restricted rear turret for more armor and better stability, also lose that rear bartbett so only two quad 16 inch in rear no Barnett lot more armor.

[@YourNeighborhoodCIAAgentN5]

Murica', f*ck yeah. Coming to save the motherf*cking day yeah

[@SilentGamin102]

This ship be like: more guns and better guns

[@Kairgester]

Could you try making the most British ships and put it against Germany

[@IronWarhorsesFun]

THE USS VOTER SUPRESSOR!

[@icevlad148]

10 more km could've saved North Dacota :`( UPD and Maryland. Maybe

[@VuldEdone]

I don't know. From what I understand +18'' are made for long-range fighting, so if anything that early start (especially with the lack of japanese torpedoes...) favored the US. Starting at +20km would have prevented the same damage output, leaving 3 enemy BBs dishing out more accurate fire. I wouldn't have fancied the odds.

[@gavincleary9618]

It was looking good until you added the quad 16s.

[@nicolasloud995]

What game is this called?

[@mackgriffin7397]

You have alot of ads on your video is that youtube ?

[@Stealth17Gaming]

Yeah that's KZbin's doing.

[@mackgriffin7397]

@@Stealth17Gaming i suppose you dont get money from it ?

[@doktork3406]

there's browsers with integrated adblock for mobile and adblock extensions for desktop so there is ZERO excuse to still be seeing ads in 2020

[@relatiivity3461]

I'm highly disappointed that I'll never be able to play this game seeing as though it'll never be on Consoles and I cant afford to buy a PC anytime soon. 😔 The closest I can get is WoWs Legends but its cancer.

[@Stealth17Gaming]

Cancer is a disease that kills people. I think you mean to say that WoWs Legends is a game that's not to your liking.

[@relatiivity3461]

@@Stealth17Gaming exactly.

[@doktork3406]

just built a good PC for 200 eur a week ago RX570 , i5 3rd gen, 8gb ram, ssd(forgot how big), good PSU

[@edhikurniawan]

@@doktork3406 i5 3rd gen? I think i3 9th gen or higher is a better bargain than older i5. They have the same core numbers. I would say it starts at 8th gen i3, but 9th gen is cheaper (as they omit the on-chip VGA) and could use the same Motherboard.

[@badkingjohn5235]

Twelve Ads are a bit excessive, I think.

[@Stealth17Gaming]

Lately I've been putting them in manually. I leave it to KZbin for *one* video (I forgot this tone) and boom, 12 ads. The editor only says 3 ads though, interestingly. At what times did you get the ads? According to the editor they're at 1:29, 14:19 and 18:00.

[@doktork3406]

ADBLOCK my dear god.....ads are a plague of the past there's browsers with integrated adblock for mobile and adblock extensions for desktop you have no excuse

[@ooflord4506]

gungungungungungungungungun

[@vladstanciu334]

Do you mean guns put on guns

[@BlueOrion-dc9yk]

Day 2 of requesting a Graf Spee build

[@trentonblair3795]

Uss overcompensation

[@vy_you-vy_anybody]

Merrlin

[@country_flyboy]

Ha! This isn't American enough! Why do you have empty spaces? You can fit hundreds more 40mm Bofors in those!

[@KaiserStormTracking]

NO ROCKETS!

[@ultimatebigbrainhelth3161]

jesus stealth take an ffing break

[@federicoviolino6784]

guns guns guns