The most useful adjustments for Tonex are the Depth and Presence controls. May need a v2 to include IR-2, Simplifier and the updated ACS. Turn the level on the KOT a little bit to cook that frontend of the amp sims. You’d really hear the difference between these units.
@scottbecker34858 ай бұрын
This cries out for a sequel with the ACSI updated to its 2.0 firmware. That would make it a truly „ultimate“ comparison with no omissions.
@lightfootfx8 ай бұрын
I know! It breaks my heart that we missed that update. We might try and do this again when we have time. Thanks for watching!
@gonebymidnight28816 ай бұрын
@@lightfootfxPlease do, it’s a whole different pedal now!
@stringedaz6 ай бұрын
I have the UAFX Ruby, Lion, and Dream 65. I love them.
@lightfootfx6 ай бұрын
I still need to try the Lion I hope to have one soon. They are awesome pedals!
@jordan-c-bay2 ай бұрын
Awesome video, this helped me decide to get a Ruby. If my honeymoon phase with it lasts (I love it so far) I might end up getting a Dream as well. I already have a Deluxe Reverb, but would be nice not to have to lug it to gigs… too much risk of damage or theft.
@lightfootfx2 ай бұрын
Great choice! Both those pedals are amazing! Thanks for watching!
@KempStrings2 ай бұрын
The Dream 65 having reverb built in was a deciding factor for me over the Iridium (one great sounding pedal to PA).
@lematrix013 ай бұрын
Superb video , really real world !! Thank you
@lightfootfx3 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for watching!
@jonathane4010 ай бұрын
Wonderful video! Thanks for making it! I wonder how close you can get to an AC30 sounds with the Dream and a Vox in a box pedal in front of it
@lightfootfx10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Yeah that would be interesting to try sometime!
@GhostofMozart3 ай бұрын
for those watching please keep in mind that you are: 1. listening to this through youtube which is processing it it's own way. 2 you're getting the direct out sound only when the guitar is playing. you hear the drastic difference when their mics come back on. All of that being said, there will be slight differences IRL if you were to play all of these at the same settings with the same guitar. I do think this was the best way to do this video though and it's extremely helpful :) PS: Most comparison videos I see drive me INSANE because what they are playing changes dramatically between models they are comparing. it will be full strum open chords and then all of the sudden some blistering solo above the 12th fret with new effects added. Super annyoing. With this video I really appreciate that basically the same thing was played for every comparison. Well done. For what it's worth i have a tonex being shipped to me as we speak but after watching this video i personally liked the Ruby the most. might return the tonex now if i cant get it to sound the way I want
@lightfootfx3 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for watching and for your kind run down! Ruby and Tonex are definitely my top 2 of anything on the market right now for amp modeling.
@JudgeFredd9 ай бұрын
Great video
@lightfootfx9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for watching!
@sundaytone9 ай бұрын
Great comparison!
@lightfootfx9 ай бұрын
Hey thanks so much!
@PedalPoopers9 ай бұрын
Okay everyone, let's be honest here.... Round 1: ACS1 Blew the Iridium out of the water on cleans while the Iridium sounded only slightly better than ACS1 with the KOT. ACS1 won. Round 2: Ruby beat out the ToneX, the ToneX sounded muddy'd up and underwater compared to the Ruby. That didn't surprise me. Ruby won. It's not surprising that the ToneX and the Iridium sound sterile and feel digital. Round 3: Dream sounds like an actual Deluxe Reverb, ToneX sounds like a digital model trying to emulate a Deluxe Reverb but something was missing - I'm not sure what. Round 4: ACS1 and ToneX were pretty neck in neck here. If I had to pick one, I would probably go with ACS1, felt like it had more high end which you'd need in a live situation, and the clean was popping out the overdrive in a pleasing way. Listen to the video with a good set of speakers or headphones and you'll hear why Universal Audio rises to the top above anything else. You really need a UAFX Lion, a Friedman IR-X, AmpliTube X and a Boss IR-200 so you can compare those 4 next!
@scottpeterson75389 ай бұрын
Agreed
@peponline889 ай бұрын
I really like the comparison... but also i think that it could be great to add the real amps to hear wich one sounds closer to the them. I think that maybe the Acs1 sounds crispier or cleaner because it sounds more boosted in some frecuencies that make it sounds like that.
@lightfootfx9 ай бұрын
That’s a good point I’ll have to keep in mind for future videos. Thanks for watching!
@singpraize29 ай бұрын
So the older Tone Factor Tone matched IR's were supposedly more EQ settings specific where they needed to be how Tone Factor Set them, The New XR IRs are suppose to be more flexible when it comes to eq settings
@lightfootfx9 ай бұрын
Yeah I was reading about that as well. Might have to do a round 2 in the future with all the udpated firmware and new XR IRs because I am genuinely curious on how much of an improvement it is.
@GraeMcCullough8 ай бұрын
I greatly enjoyed this! I have an acs1 on the way. It will be my third time owning one 😂 I want to try out the new firmware update. Anyway, I also just bought the Tone Factor XR Chimera pack. Do you know specifically which IR from this pack that you loaded onto the acs1 for this video?
@lightfootfx8 ай бұрын
I’m glad you enjoyed it! Yeah on all of them we used the 545 mic
@GraeMcCullough8 ай бұрын
@@lightfootfx thanks!
@FakeGlasses7 ай бұрын
I always prefer the Oxford in the dream, I a/b’d it with my vintage 67 deluxe and they are indistinguishable when recorded
@lightfootfx7 ай бұрын
Love it! Thanks for sharing!
@FakeGlasses2 ай бұрын
@@lightfootfx Took the plunge on a Tonex One to try out the Tonex universe, and initial impressions are that I'm sticking with the Ruby and Dream. Found the app lacking, and was very disappointed by the 'matchless' and a lot of other models on the LIbrarian app. Haven't found a Vox AC model that stands up to the Ruby, which is a shame as I think the Ruby is weaker than the Dream and sometimes responds to fuzzes differently/oddly than the Dream. There's some decent stuff to be sure and for the money the Tonex One is a great deal, but it feels a tier below the UAD stuff in terms of feel and clarity of sound. Everything on the Tonex with any gain to it feels muddy to me. I was hoping it would knock the Ruby off my board and allow me to swap/match things with the dream and get a matchless into play (my amps are a 67 deluxe reverb and a DC-30) or a super reverb/bassman from time to time, etc. Thanks for the video and discussion.
@TheSaintBrad3 ай бұрын
As a Vox user, I think the Ruby by a mile!
@lightfootfx3 ай бұрын
Another one for the ruby! That’s for sharing
@jaribu27589 ай бұрын
Two words in defense of the Iridium. Input trim. Also perhaps a bit to wet for comparison.
@johannmunoz_gtr9 ай бұрын
Please a 5 minute video without talking, between ACS1 (updated) vs ToneX - Including some delays and reverbs, and drives. (New sub)
@lightfootfx9 ай бұрын
I would like to do more in the future! Thanks for watching
@Jayrawk5 ай бұрын
Capture the Ruby in the Tonex.
@lightfootfx5 ай бұрын
Hey now there’s an idea!
@andym19667 ай бұрын
Time to include a Marshall comparison now that UA have released the Lion...
@lightfootfx7 ай бұрын
Yes! It’s on my list to review
@brandnewyou52547 ай бұрын
You have to put on some headphones and then dial it into a mix to see it really shine then you'll understand they've been selling you the same thing in different boxes for 30 years
@brandnewyou52547 ай бұрын
The old rp355 has it all in one box does it all and everything
@MartinVazChannel8 ай бұрын
Simplifier DLX, the best one for me.
@lightfootfx8 ай бұрын
I had that one and sold it, I wish I had it still to compare, I thought it sounded great while I had it!
@MartinVazChannel8 ай бұрын
@@lightfootfx That’s what I have now and freakin love the thing, it’s very cool that it has XLR to go FOH and also two outs to use with a real cab with no irs, effects loop, I mean this device is insane, for me it’s the best in market for this kind of devices.
@SundayMorningGuitars10 ай бұрын
I was wondering where this video went hahahaha
@lightfootfx10 ай бұрын
😆 we had some technical difficulties and had to repost haha. Thanks for watching!
@SundayMorningGuitars10 ай бұрын
@@lightfootfx yes of course, great sounds from this video. I’m curious if you saw the new “Lion” from UAFX 😂
@lightfootfx10 ай бұрын
@@SundayMorningGuitars indeed I did see that release. I’m not a huge marshal guy but if I can get my hands on one I’ll definitely film something with it.
@SundayMorningGuitars10 ай бұрын
@@lightfootfx if I get my hands on one before you do, I’ll let you borrow it!
@tzmathew4 ай бұрын
How does an HX stomp compare to these based on amp modeling ?
@lightfootfx4 ай бұрын
I used to have the hx stomp and was not a fan compared to these, that was back in 2021 or so and I know it’s had many improvements since then so if I tried it again I may like it now!
@LEUNN_4 ай бұрын
No real AC30 sounds like the ACS1 sounded here, no AC30 has that much low end.
@brandnewyou52547 ай бұрын
If you ain't got an old digit tech RP355 you ain't played with a real modeler yet all you need is a few good IRs and you're good to go
@lightfootfx7 ай бұрын
Haha I can’t tell if you’re trolling. I’ve played one of those they sound terrible compared to the stuff that’s out today like fractal, helix, kemper or quad cortex. But you do you man!
@BkBk-gy6vr8 ай бұрын
Tonex sounded like what it is..digital. hands down the UA Dream wins.
@lightfootfx8 ай бұрын
Interesting, thanks for sharing! I won’t lie the dream is very good.
@marks45532 ай бұрын
Why you guys sound like you bout to kiss...
@daveandrew70148 ай бұрын
Ruby is least favorite to me. I don't like the bass and highs on it. KOT into it sounds horrible. Sounds bloated.
@lightfootfx8 ай бұрын
Interesting take! I wonder if that is due to the era of ac30 they are trying to capture. Thanks for sharing!
@TheBluesineАй бұрын
BLAH BNLAH BLAH --- Shut up about your guitar bro ---- this is suspsoe to be about the modelers..
@aliengrey60522 ай бұрын
Why all the damned effects?????? We want to hear the modelers not the effects. Same on all of these types of posts.
@brandnewyou52547 ай бұрын
I cannot believe what you guys will pay for this stuff when you can go to a pawn shop for less than a hundred bucks and get a model that will go straight in your interface and kick all that ass
@clintwhite30217 ай бұрын
Alright alright I’ll bite, what is it 😂?
@brandnewyou52547 ай бұрын
@@clintwhite3021 rp355 digitech
@brandnewyou52547 ай бұрын
10 seconds into the video and I can tell you you're doing it wrong if you ain't running it straight to the interface and to tape and then maybe compress it a bit or something and on the KZbin you ain't doing it right
@yessitsme688410 ай бұрын
"Ultimate"... Yet does not include Helix, Fractal, Kemper, Tone Master or Headrush. People, please stop calling everything "ultimate"
@adamricard941010 ай бұрын
“Ultimate mid tier modeler shootout”
@chrisgarciaj1610 ай бұрын
He explains why in the video.
@saltstream9 ай бұрын
Pretty sure the guys were dealing with single guitar fx pedals for Amp's and IR's. I really enjoyed it. Helix, Fractal etc are a completely different situation as they are "all in one units" that offer a lot more than Amp modelling.
@yessitsme68849 ай бұрын
@@saltstream Then rename the video. It's called "Ultimate amp modeller showdown". Sorry, I'm on a losing battle against the overuse of the word "ultimate". Also, tribute bands stop saying yours is the ultimate tribute, it is not.
@saltstream9 ай бұрын
@@yessitsme6884 Chill dude. There is no issue. All is good. The title doesn't matter. It's just a vid looking at various amp pedals. Some are better than others. This amp pedal stuff is very subjective. Some love it ... Others not so much..