Ampless Signal Paths Explained

[@CamBaldeon]

You’ve been doing a great service for our community, I wish you all the success.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Wow, thanks so much Cam!

[@middaymeds]

You don't know about his past, do ya?

[@CamBaldeon]

@@middaymeds I’m aware, but I don’t live in the past. You should consider life in the moment because failures tend to live in the past.

[@elielmartinez5095]

@@CamBaldeonagreed! Been a learning a lot from him lately.

[@eduardsiger1860]

@@middaymeds Everyone has a past and nobody is perfect, but the goal is growth and we should be lifting each other up

[@legionnairegonk4425]

Far too many pro's / hardware manufacturers just assume everyone knows this stuff. Thanks for being different and explaining everything clearly 😉.

[@tommyzai7038]

The depth of your tutorial is fantastic; yet, HOLY MOLY the complexity of a complete virtual rig is making me consider going acoustic and singing on a picnic blanket in the park . . . alone. ;-0

[@bakelite-era705]

Man this video answered questions I didn't even know I had. Thanks so much Mason, I'm going Ampless for my church Worship setup and you've just saved me heaps of stress and time I would have wasted otherwise!

[@karlkestermann]

I use the Bass Simplifier and it has changed my whole sound. I couldn't live without it!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Wow, that's great! Congrats!

[@MatthaeusEbonah]

These new amp pedals have truly changed the game for me personally. The genre of music I play the sound men usually run your rig directly into the DI and out of a DI into your amp. They don't care if you're playing a $20k two rock amp. They're not micing it up. So, even though the tone out of your amp and something like magic. That DI sound is like a kazoo if you have any type of drive on. The UA Dream 65 has changed this for me. I run two lines out the outputs. One to my monitor or "power in" section of my amp. The other to the DI box. The IR's and cam Sims on any of the UA pedals are CRAZY good. Now I don't lose my tone.

[@BrianVallotton]

I have never seen this explained better. Thanks so much. Keep up the great work! God bless.

[@patrickcarroll1754]

The graphics, the editing...the clarity. You keep evolving Mason. Thank you. I still think in metaphors and concepts more than technology and blueprints, but your delivery continues to be more focused and It's getting easier to follow along. Such a useful presentation on this topic 2 video suggestions: - Would you consider a video on a cable management of your brand new STUDIO and WORKSTATION? Beyond the pedalboard, I'm a firm believer you can apply that kind of tidiness elswhere in one's music space. And I'm fairly certain many cords behind an average computer are a rats nest, lit up by some sort of LED light to create the illusion all is well. Or maybe it just signals you like create. Either way, I bet you could make one mean video on it? - It's been asked before, but could you discuss and dedicate a whole video to HX STOMP specific routing? I've watched Line 6's demos and they're good, but boy do they fly past the material. To me the ports on the unit seem to connect a little differently to an effects loop or setting up cap Sims, etc. And I am simply not an engineer. Considering there's millions of users out there, perhaps I wouldn't be alone. Keep on what you're doing!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thanks Patrick. Full credit to Mejia who did the edit and graphics on this one. He knocked it out of the park! Thanks for those suggestions. We'll definitely add it to our list of possible future videos :)

[@AutismRocksOfficial]

Awesome video and good timing for me. I’m putting together an Ampless praise and worship board for church right now.✌️👍

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Great! Hope this helps! I hope we earned your subscription!

[@runefb]

Thanks a bunch! I placed my wet effects after the Dream as you suggested, and the sound got SO MUCH better! 👍

[@g-man7687]

Nice work, Mason and hats off to vertex effects for putting on this video very helpful. I was going up that path already and apparently hooking things up right this video just confirmed it. Thanks.

[@widmer64]

Mason, your content is very enriching! Love it!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

I'm so glad! Thanks for watching! Hope we earned your subscription!

[@michaelbast8250]

What a timely blessing this video is. I am reworking my rig to go amp less today with the Woodrow.

[@mattmitchell9298]

Thanks, this answered my question about using the boss ir-2 in a simple stereo ampless rig. 👍👍👍

[@lesliejamesmcauley-dj8sg]

Thanks!

[@ashishdhakal6630]

Thank you for this wonderful guideline . Helped a lot . Keep posting such videos related to signal path and Mainly using pedals on recording

[@saurodino8459]

Best video about ampless signal chain. Simple, clear, good examples. Thank u for sharing. Keep doing these stuff. Best luck for your work 🍻🤟

[@chilidogcowboy]

Super handy video. I have to go amp-less at a church and have been coping by using my Mesa boogie vtwin. I was stuck using the clean channel til I realized I could put my time based stuff after the boogie’s output and could set the calibration on my nova delay….now I’ve got cleaner delays, can run the boogie like a dirty amp, and can go stereo with two direct boxes if I get greedy.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thanks for watching!

[@louishwu]

Thank you for instantly answering questions/fears I had about my UA lion and solutions given in a straightforward concise video!

[@dpinskey]

Being a drummer, I never got a lot of experience setting up effect pedal signal paths. Now that I have my home studio set up, I want to make sure I have a nice assortment of effects and pedals available for my partner and I to dabble with to get tones for guitar, vocals, drums and whatever else comes down the proverbial pike. I am glad to see I have somewhat approximated the kind of setups demonstrated here. But definitely learned a few alternatives. One cool addition you might find of interest that I added to my signal flow is the Erica Synths Matrix Mixer which I am using to program and automate from what and to where I can send my signal path for up to 16 inputs to 16 outputs. It can get really interesting. Thanks again for what you do. Cheers!

[@paulngardner]

Absolutely spot on explanation, thanks! Been trying to understand half of this stuff for years!!

[@torzsok949]

So many good tips, Uncle Mase, idk what the pedal world would do without you. I've been playing digital for about 4 years now. I have a stomp, and I've always put my wet effects last on the chain and go straight into the stomp. But if your digital rig has an fx loop, run the wet effects into it either mono or stereo because it takes away so much digital harshness. Having your drives smash the amp and putting the wet effects post is amazing. Also, if you're running the stomp, axe fx, quad cortex, etc. put a compressor with a low mix after your amp and cab before your reverb tames a lot of digital noise coming from driving the amps into the delay/verbs. Because a lot of modelers are frfr, so you just get so many crazy signals coming through that you won't get with a regular amp. Love your content always!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thanks for watching and the thoughtful comment!

[@sosborniv]

You can also get into your global settings on the Stomp and set a high and low cut to taste. It will remove a lot of that extra signal and stay in the traditional amp spectrum.

[@geo5772]

Mase! Right out of the park! A walkoff winner. 😎

[@crafalgar9719]

5:57 I understand that a lot of amp sims have an Xlr output, while other pedals usually dont. So isn't it better to hit the mixer/foh with an xlr cable coming out of the preamp than with a quarter inch jack (out of the reverb here) ? Isn't the Xlr output usually more balanced ?

[@angrybirds2472]

Thanks, doc! Your rundowns are always clear crispy and concise, and also superlative!

[@YanYeiDei]

unexpected result from watching this video, I finally understand Wet/Dry/Wet set ups!! thanks!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Wow, great news! Hope we earned your sub!

[@Widdy5150]

Good video. I do the same idea within the helix using the DSM Humboldt DLX 4cm. Love this sort of content 👍🏼

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thanks so much! Hope we earned your subscription!

[@Widdy5150]

@@VertexEffectsInc of course

[@anthonydellorusso9554]

EXCELLENT video! I have always struggled with the concepts of "wet-dry-wet" rigs, and this made it much more clear

[@scottyruss1990]

Nice to see something about this, I came back to guitar about 1.5 years ago and have joined a band, using just a pedal board. And it's taken a while to get the set up right, Iridium really helped to create the amp feel, and a DI box, and a whole host of pedal swapping. Can be hard to get your head around how to create all the tones you need. (Without using digital modelling. As that's just not for me!)

[@kmickp1166]

Excellent, clearly explained and easy to understand. I use an Iridium when not using regular amps and use it in a stereo set up. What I learned from your demo is that I have my boost and volume pedal in the wrong place, many thanks for helping me understand why! Keep up the great work! 👍🎶

[@carlosalves4444]

Your channel Mason is guitar signal university, man great job, really appreciate your content.

[@johnpaulpatton9786]

Living in an apartment, a loud tube amp is just not really an option. So, I decided to go with an Iridium and I'm very happy with it. I have struggled with placement of pedals around it, though, so this video is very helpful. Thank you!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

I'm so glad! Hopefully it's useful!

[@simoncolvex]

Great vid, i can always count on you to answer/ preempt my questions.

[@benchambers1173]

It's good to be validated. I have a set up almost exactly like this. My guitar signal is like this: Guitar Tuner Compressor Distortion (amp sim preamp pedal) Overdrive Noise gate Mooer D.I. box. ^it has cab sim, d.i. xlr out [dry], and an unbalanced out to continue the chain. Univibe Chorus Mono female to dual mono male adapter Stereo in EQD Avalanche Run delay/reverb Left Stereo out to Joyo JDI-01 #1 [Wet Left] Right stereo out to Joyo JDI-01 #2 [Wet Right] Both of those have XLR outs to FoH or Interface.

[@miker701]

Thank you! Very informative and the images really helped!

[@karl1949]

OUTSTANDING advice and information ~ exceptionally presented and super generous, wow Mason thank you! I'll be gearing up with some of your buffers and boosts 100%! I have on my agenda to get help from a Rig Dr. consultation too. You could 'aka' this channel as Rock Star University man. The effort you put into your business and channel really comes across and the quality shines, super positive vibes. Great input and tips from the community also thanks all ~ awesome!!!

[@TRUELOUTUBE]

This so helpful Mason ! I watched many other signal chain videos for Amp-less rigs and only your detailed video gives me all the understanding and options w my Strymon Iridium. NICE ONE !!!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Wow, great news!

[@Prettynoise]

Thank you for the explanation. When I build my next pedalboards I am selling my Pedaltrain board and picking up one of yours.

[@andisadiku1819]

Hey Mason, amazing video as always :)) I use the DSM & Humbolt Simplifier Classic which has an integrated FX loop and balanced XLR outputs. I’ve been using the pedal live for months now and couldn’t be more happy with it. Just plug in the board and run the front of house. A save for any giging guitarist!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Wow, great news!

[@elielmartinez5095]

Hey I’m thinking about getting the same pedal myself. Which pedals would you send to the FX loop?

[@theGaroudini]

It has good buffer on it right?

[@nielsdonnelly6027]

Nice vid and clear explanation. I am using the ruby to create an ampless rig and loving it. My modulation and wet effects are after the ruby to make them more pristine. I run a boss EQ pedal last in chain to create a clean volume boost for solos as I run the ruby dirty and have noticed that the reverb pedal I have tends to distort when boosted. Works like a charm!

[@pauldncn1]

Thank you This was the best explanation I’ve seen Amazingly simplified with all the pitfalls 👍👍

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Wow, thanks! Hope we earned your subscription!

[@pauldncn1]

@@VertexEffectsInc I was already subscribed Sometimes the chairmen of the board are a little late for me but I watch eventually 👍

[@El...Presidente]

The Boss IR-200 is so underrated. It has an effects loops which you can program to before or after amp, 2 eqs, reverb, noise gate, stereo with 2 different amp/cab combos u can split L/R, can act as simple midi controller, u can upload your IRs, tons of amps including bass…. It’s amazing, sounds amazing.

[@rockyfolksy8639]

Thank you so much for this Doc. It would be interesting to hear next time if you can talk about Fractal Axe Efx, Neural DSP Quad Cortex, Kemper, Line6 Helix and the likes of it on how you set up this type of rigs on a live situation or how you incorporate this on a pedalboard set up along with some analog pedals. Thank You!

[@Kwaician]

I have the UAFX Dream. Do I need an output buffer for this ampless rig or is the buffer included in the dream good enough by your standards? Thanks!

[@wfqsfg]

I go back to when we brought our 30 watt amp to church and mic'd it or used the line out if it had one. Some people even tried using just a pedal with some boost like an overdrive pedal with the gain turned down to go to the board. Sometimes there were 3 amps up there all blaring. Thank God for these amp simulators.

[@eoinc_Ire]

0:21 Not all are digital! Kingsley Amps make amazing ‘Pre Amp’ pedals that are all analog! Love the content! Thanks for all your commitment to educating us ❤

[@VertexEffectsInc]

It's not really the same as these all-in-one amplifier simulators that have preamp, power amp, speaker/cabinet, and mics in the same box. To make the Kingsley behave as an amplifier like these you're still required to use some sort of power amp and cabinet or something like a Two Notes Cab M to complete the signal path of an amplifier.

[@AthelstanEngland]

​@@VertexEffectsIncthese are the sort of comment threads that's are so useful. The original poster putting over a view very politely and complementing your channel. And then your detailed, but positive, explanation if the misunderstanding/difference. Useful because I read his and thought "er I don't think they are the same" so to so detailed confirmation of that really helps on the learning curve. Thanks to you both.

[@gsbguitarsgsb679]

Truly the easiest explanation and examples out there thanks man…

[@hollowify_tensa_zangetsu]

HAPPY NEW YEAR. I know it's late but still. Before I became a Gear head, I knew the basics, got my big muff,cry baby,CH-1,Boss digital delay ( I dont remember if it was DD3) and the DS-1. And then in 2014 got a Digitech RP360XP for xmas. I loved it, later went to pedals again. I got into TPS and learned more about everything.amp+cab simulation were in that RP360XP. Let me tell you the Heads and Cabinet or DEAD ON. This for me is a Sleeper pedal, I go to guitar center and bring the pedal and when compared to the real deal its extremely close

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Nice! Thanks for the comment!

[@TheOtherOtherJoey]

There I am trying to figure out an amp less option, and thank goodness you have a video about this. Everybody else is a bunch of fluff.

[@shroompicn-shrooman]

I use just a Boss multi effect board.. most of the time in the garage.. directly in to the board we have setup... works great and way lighter than my tube amp .. and way less wear and tear on it also ... but playing out i drag my amp and just run the Boss right in the front...like a drive pedal.. matter of fact i also run a Boss Combo Drive after the board.. and it just add the slightest bit of chime the board just doesn't have... i have always wanted to try others but i own this and it works well... Great video thanks... ✌👽👍

[@son-of-a-schmidt]

This is EXACTLY THE VIDEO I NEEDED

[@zaccaria-dribi]

Thank you! I was waiting for this 🙏🙏🙏

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Wow, great!

[@jimicunningable]

This was great, tyvm! I"m back for review cuz I got a Walrus last payday. I was enjoying my humble Mooer, but the Walrus is just awesome. HF all.

[@jenzzz]

That was super-helpful and very well explained! Thank you! 🤘

[@MattCiprianoMusic]

This makes soo much sense. Thanks for making this video. Super clear

[@MikeHenrick1]

Thanks 🙏. Been doing both and not sure if it was right. Been trying to find info on this for a while. 🎉

[@veerchasm1]

Great diagrams and explanations

[@MrLittleblindshakey]

Your good Mason, very good. And you keep getting better over the years.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

I appreciate that!

[@karlkitchen1382]

@VertexEffectsInc Thanks for this! I have questions, though. In my case, I actually have my ampless rig set up a bit differently and I'd like to get your take on it. On my board, I have some effects (compressor, drive) set before the amp sim/IR loader (in my case, a Tonex). Other effects (mod, delay, reverb) are set up after the Tonex. The drive pedals and the Tonex are looped thru the send-return loop on a TC Sentry noise gate. The entire signal chain is looped thru an Empress Buffer+ that also serves as an input boost when needed (it also makes for a nice neat I/O point for the rig). The output from the Buffer+ feeds into a DI to FOH. The board is my entire stage rig if I'm using the house monitors, but I can also have a "tone neutral" power amp and cab pushing signal from the DI's THRU OUT jack. In our rehearsal space, I leave out the DI and send the Buffer+ output to the power-amp + cab kit. Thoughts?

[@rootshers]

Vertex makes pedals that feel awesome. Now you know why! 🎉 thanks for the video

[@tmead07]

Solid video! Well thought out and easy to follow. 👍

[@jeremyweiss4845]

Great suggestions for alternate routing with amp sims! I’ll have to try some of these.

[@97guitarzan]

I'm thinking of getting one of these ampsims pedals, probably the UA Dream 65....there are almost too many options today. This is good information. Thanks Mason

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Hope it helps!

[@jmartinianovlogging1482]

thank you for making time on this!🍻

[@BRAG450]

As someone who just bought a dream 65 and ruby this came at the perfect time for me. I’m running them kind of different than what you show here. But most likely I’ll switch it up. I’m running polytune> Nobels>obne visitor(modulation)> obne sunlight( tape reverb) > DL4 mk2> ruby> gfi specular tempus for reverb> walrus audio canvas in stereo. Signal chain starts in stereo after my dl4 . Run stereo xlr out through the canvas into interface or frfr. With the dream I don’t need the reverb as it has one so I just run that as the end of chain before canvas. The obne sunlight I have I kind of use separate even though it’s on the board. Mostly use it di into interface no amp modeling for pad sounds. So that explains why it’s in a weird place in my signal chain. I do recommend if you like reverb to set it after the ruby and not in front. I messed around with that for a while.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

I would suggest trying the Modulation, Tape Reverb, and DL4 all after the amp sims in stereo into your Canvas.

[@BRAG450]

@@VertexEffectsInc yes. I agree I’m literally tinkering as we speak. I just got it and first setup was kind of a simple tone test. I’m also rewatching and picked up some other stuff I might try with wet dry wet. Thanks again Mason

[@sosborniv]

You may be aware, but if you run them in stereo with the ruby on the brilliant channel (I think it’s just the brilliant?) you’ll need to flip the phase on one of them at FOH or with a pedal that does it for you if FOH can’t.

[@abhishekkapadia4687]

No one talks of OG amp pedal maker tech 21 the best ANALOGUE amp pedal maker. The Blonde / California / Liverpool and British Sansamp charatcter pedals are still the best in the market

[@Jason22Douce]

This is great stuff. I would love to see a breakdown of signal path once the foh gets it. Ij the variety of options for monitoring ( wedges, iem, etc )

[@hoosierdaddy2308]

Very cool. I use more high gain and I used to always play tube amps, but not allowed much anymore. So, I'm looking at the Boss IR2 and some saturation pedals like a boss SD1 or maybe a boost before and after the amp, and some delay and a micro pitch and reverb and my Morley wah for sure, and maybe a phaser or flange from time to time and I was so wondering about XLR to FOH. You answered that, so thanks. I might just end up with the UA plexi amp sim pedal because it sounds so damn good on the brown sound. I love this channel, but I wish you would do more on High gain stuff. Just blues rock type stuff. Like Thin Lizzy, and Lynard Skynard and tones like that from pedals or amps . Best regards and great channel. I always like and I'm subscribed..❤

[@digital-guitars-uk]

Thought this was brilliant. Thanks for sharing this with us. All my best wishes from the UK. 😎😎😎😎👍👍👍👍

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Wow, thanks so much!

[@jash500]

This is great. You may have just sold me on getting a UA Ruby (side note: I wish there only there was stand-alone modeling for Matchless. IRs to the rescue?). Anyway, I feel like the perfect follow up to this would be a discussion on stereo width techniques i.e haas effect vs LCR and then for live mono FOH, optimizing a guitar’s place in the mix given the mono restrictions. You can even talk about Goodwoods new RCV box and the difference between “mix” and “sum”. I know I’d appreciate it! Good stuff today 👍🏼

[@everonlyallforthee]

I second this 👆🏻

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thanks for the comments and suggestions!

[@gregholmberg2]

Very helpful. Thank you. Now do it with an amp-sim pedal that has an effects loop!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

I think between this video and our advanced signal paths video you can caveat based on the main principles laid out here :). I believe in you!

[@316word]

Thank you so much for this info am really considering trying these individual amp sims verses the the all in one multi effects deep dive menu situations

[@MasterSplinterPDX]

I use a Shure GLDX16+ wireless guitar setup, in which the transmitter is also a tuner pedal and placed on the pedalboard. If I were to add an input buffer to my pedalboard, the only way to use the wireless system as intended would be to have the buffer pedal AFTER the Shure transmitter, because putting the buffer before the transmitter would require a wired setup, if I'm not mistaken. The transmitter pedal has a 100 ohm output, but the input is 900k ohms, falling short of your minimum that you recommend. So, is it the case that in order to have a properly "buffered" setup, I'll need to give up playing wireless? Cheers for your informative content.

[@denitoch]

Is it okay to run a pedal to a power amp pedal like the 44 magnum by electro harmonix, for example hx stomp->> reverb pedal ->> 44 magnum! Or do I need a DI box after the reverb pedal? Thank again for all the knowledge

[@Jay-fp4ii]

Amazing content!!! Ampless was my next question, lol

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Great! Sounds like this was right on time!

[@20thisisme]

Thanks for the explanation. Was considering a UA lion, UA Dream, and a UA Ox Stomp as a 3 pedal board. Im not sure if I need a power amp in a box - to be able to send one signal to a onstage FRFR cabinet. The other to go through a DI to front of house.

[@Gutch220]

At 9:00 does it matter that you have the standard, mic-level, Low-Z, balanced XLR cables going into the mixer, but.....for the dry, you still have a high-Z, unbalanced, instrument or line level 1/4-inch jack also going into the mixer? Two completely different signal-types.

[@farber2]

Flanger after the EQ, this is a life saver.

[@tokingreens]

Thanks...Your videos are always so clear and informative.

[@livcrash]

Hi, i have a little question: when you use the Dream before mods and time based effects do you have cab simulation active? If you'd like to use this configuration with a real amp, you need to exclude the Dream from the chain, don't you?

[@mattsb17]

Exact pedal I needed , thank you !

[@douglas3103]

This helps out so many people, Thank you!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

I hope so!

[@marzbitenhaussen]

Hi Doctor, I have purchased a Walrus Audio ASC1, and using it with my large pedalboard in mono at the end of the chain, from there goes to my Sound Interface, what I hear in my speaker monitors/headphones is a very muddy and dark sound that sounds nothing like an amp or like in the examples in videos I see in KZbin, when I use the ASC1 headphones output the sound improves greatly and even using the default pre-sets on the ASC1 I have a fairly good dynamics and sound, I noticed when i bypass the pedal the sound that goes to my Audio Interface is way better closer to the original which made me wonder what is the point of this pedal, what can I do to improve or connect it to my interface to get a better sound, the issue I am having is that the output to the headphone in the pedal and the output of the pedal to 1/4 are very different, this is what confuses me, hope you can give me some pointers, thank you for all your videos, I am also in Oakland, M

[@jbert6793]

What a wealth of knowledge. I have a DSM Humboldt Electronics Simplifier. I just got it. Still learning it on how I want to run it. Have you messed around with this device? Thank you.

[@thechahal]

thanks for this breakdown

[@chilidogcowboy]

Let’s talk about the buffer. If we A/B a rig with/without one, what’s the effect? Can a fella get away with running an gently dialed-in always-on compressor up front after the fuzz and get a similar benefit as with a buffer? Additionally-without an amp and without an amp modeling unit (just a boogie vtwin pre-amp) I’ve experimented with using a lightly dialed in always-on compressor (Keeley mini comp) to try to restore the ‘feel’ of amp/speaker …it helps…. The boogie vtwin direct signal is pretty darn useful this way….I’d like to see a shootout with direct vs preamp vs modeler just to know what can be known.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Rory, check out our videos on buffers and also cable shootouts with and without buffers and how the quality of the buffer matters in terms of color and transparency. We have a few videos on this specifically on our channel. The bottom line is that most pedals don't have quality buffers built into them separate from the effect their trying to perform. In other words, a compressor is built to be a compressor, any buffering is an afterthought for most manufacturers and rarely ensure they meet the minimum standards of 1K output impedance, but almost never the optimal output impedance of 100 ohms (or lower). Secondly, the don't always load the guitar correctly with a 1M input impedance, and I've seen compressors range from 10K, to 250K, to 500K, and on occasion 1M. Ideally you have 1M as that's what the guitar would see if it were plugged into the amp. This is all to say that maybe 1 in 20 times you'll get a pedal that's spec'd well to be a a decent buffer along with the pedal it's supposed to be (e.g. a good buffer and good compressor). However, most aren't - even among the brands we all know and love and expect would be at a high level buffer-wise.

[@KUKO23]

I use my Boss NS2 in conjunction with my Moore XP Live's effects loop to do a 4 cable method and keep my time based effects nice and separate from my Digitech ricochet and Octaver running clean close to my guitar signal. All distorted and clean amp.sounds are run directly from the Moore.

[@mauricemusician7636]

Any changes or tips for Bass rigs?

[@VertexEffectsInc]

No, this would pretty much be 1:1. You can also reference our bass signal path video as well for a bit more in depth understanding of the pedalboard order before the amp.

[@massi2403]

This has been so helpful... thank you! :)

[@cardosoguitarra]

Great! Flawless explanation! I’ll try the wet/dry examples with Strymon Iridium! Many thanks! Best! Regards 👏👏👏

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Enjoy!

[@agharta42]

Heres a question, Amp FX loop vs Modeler FX loop, which to use in which situation? Do FX Loops have a 'tone'? do some sound better? When you convert to a full Ampless pedalboard, have to swap a cable or two for the loop usually. Tried to think of a solution for that since I still use a tube at home.

[@Cinnemax77]

Mason- no bias- one sentence- what's the best cab sim out there for gigging musician? Thx love your stuff- God Bless

[@andrea.declementi]

Great video and useful information as usual! I just got a Simplifier classic, not sure the tone is better than the alternatives but the opportunities in terms of connectivity are way better than Iridium & co

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Great! Hope you enjoy it!

[@thejoetandy]

This was great, thankyou!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Thanks for watching! Hope we earned your sub!

[@joeemenaker]

1) I don't think you need a boost at the end of the first half of your chain. The "Volume" on your distortion pedal is there for adjusting the output level. Right after that, you have an EQ with, again, a dedicated all-frequency boost/cut control (which you have shown at max boost). 2) A wah isn't a dynamic effect; it's a filter. It works by boosting/cutting select ranges of frequencies (just like your modulation effects like chorus, phaser, and flanger do). Just like the modulation effects, it has the most effect _after_ the distortion has filled the signal with lots of overtone frequencies.

[@brettmarlar4154]

I saw the Simplifier in the thumbnail, and was hoping that you would've covered that in W/D/W configuration as it does have an effects loop and stereo XLR/unbalanced outputs.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Shouldn't be too much different however, you can use the SEND as an output to the wet effects and don't need to split out the main outputs.

[@scottolgard]

Agreed, came for the simplifier section, as the unit addresses some of the issues mentioned in this video with other amp style boxes. Would you consider doing a video on it and it's possibilities in the future?

[@brettmarlar4154]

@@VertexEffectsInc But wouldn't that mean that you would then need 3 additional speaker simulated D.I. devices? The Simplifier has stereo return, and dual XLR/line outs.

[@AdamGarrett72]

@@brettmarlar4154 My current setup utilizes the stereo returns in the fx loop, then going out stereo XLR (which are balanced.) I use the 1/4" Left output on the THRU setting. The only problem I have with this, is that it bypasses the Simplifier entirely, preamp and all. I'm only recording at home, so on my dry signal, I use a cab sim plugin. If I were to go live, I'd probably send that through an actual amp

[@brettmarlar4154]

@@AdamGarrett72 Of course, I want to use the preamp sound in the mix as well. Of course I have another preamp I would like to use as well to get a couple other tones that the Simplifier doesn't have. That would require a switchable loop pedal that has two outputs and another speaker simulated DI (which I do have from a previous mono version of my rig). When recording, I plug directly into a D.I. box that is always connected to my interface, and use its throughput to connect to my pedalboard which comes back to the interface in stereo with the left and right XLR's. I can always re-amp the straight D.I. track through the pedalboard in mono without the effectsif I wish not to blend another amp tone to the sound.

[@martinpeterblackgainpjreax409]

great Video.....one Question I´m never shure about it....Fuzz and then Distortion....or Distortion and then tha Fuzz...??

[@Alemski]

could you pleas help me. I use dream 65 in small clubs and going out of the dream outpoot into walrus canvas and then to FOH.. So how can I bypass the dream 65 pedal without plugging cables to go straight to my tone king and how could I use dream for splitting the chain to FOH and my Toneking?. I just don't want to plug cables out of the dream or canvas. Thanks in advance

[@stickman55100]

Always great guidance and information. I always learn something new from you!

[@VertexEffectsInc]

So glad it was helpful! Hope we earned your sub!

[@stickman55100]

@@VertexEffectsInc I’ve been a subscriber for a while as well as a customer. You guys make some great pedals. Still considering buying the new amp.

[@VertexEffectsInc]

@@stickman55100 Wow, thank you! If you want the amp, I just sent one to Chicago Music Exchange this morning. And they have three more on the way, then I'll be sold out for another 3 months. If you want want be sure to check in with them :)

[@ManuelAlonsoBlasco]

I use a Boss IR-200, and I don't know if I made the right choice... I'm looking forward to what you are going to say Dr.! 😁

[@VertexEffectsInc]

Paul Jackson Jr. loves these, they're nice. I have not objections.