Ultimate Arcane Mage Dragonflight Guide - Talents, Rotation & Stats

[@Toegrinder]

If you are playing Gem without Cascading Power - cast Gem with Nether Tempest or Arcane Surge

[@AngelsSaber]

what are your thoughts on gem build? can it pull the same ST and aoe as harmony? 10% less clearcasting and not having the chance to not consume harmony seems pretty big

[@Toegrinder]

@@AngelsSaber I'll be making a video on Gem vs Harmony in the next day or two

[@AngelsSaber]

or a better question though im not too sure how to phrase it, is the scenario in which you have to dump harmony stacks because you're low on mana not a parsing killer? i opted for gem build, because i feel i won't be good enough managing mana while managing harmony stacks

[@AngelsSaber]

@@Toegrinder thanks! i read the guide, and figure i'll give harmony another shot, i've been struggling with keeping up the dps. seeing some people doing 80 to 100k dps consistantly through the entire dungeon while i can only hit that much on bosses

[@lenskididdlesplaysoverwatc3180]

When do we use Presence of Mind?

[@romak3814]

This is a God send for us visual learners LOL. Thanks for all you do for the mage community!

[@KeptoKnight]

that is very true

[@Toegrinder]

This is my first video guide, all feedback is appreciated. I know its not high production quality but I don't want to invest that time without an editor when video guides don't last super long. www.twitch.tv/toegrinder Raid Talents - B4DAHVkVsxxZrVqBmAzlSR2f7TCIplIISBk0SIikIJSIhWg0SCAAAAAAAAAAAQSSSSikkkA Dungeon Talents - B4DAHVkVsxxZrVqBmAzlSR2f7TCIplIISBk0SIikIJSIhWg0SCAAAAAAAAAAAQSSSSikkkA 0:00 Intro 1:10 Raid Talents 4:07 Dungeon Talents 4:44 Single Target Burn 7:42 Single Target Mini Burn 8:54 Single Target Filler 9:33 Mana Management 11:20 Help I'm OOM 12:18 AOE Burn 14:12 AOE Mini Burn 15:38 AOE Filler 16:16 Arcane Harmony & Temporal Warp 17:45 Stats & Trinkets 18:51 Outro

[@Alex-oo3rl]

The guide was great. It was concise and covered almost all situations you can run into as an arcane mage. I've been using your sim resources for years, and I was thrilled when I saw your website and now this guide, it's like it's Winter's Veil already! Appreciate your work and you sharing it a lot! Thank you!

[@sky_rokit]

My only request is that you do the same guide for frost and fire!

[@vallin411]

Just a heads up, both import strings for the serparate builds are the identical and leads to the raid talent build. Thanks for the guide, it helped a lot!

[@antonaberg3806]

Oh boy I have been waiting for this one! Your resources keep coming in clutch informing me how to play the new builds and stuff. Appreciate it as always my man!

[@Toegrinder]

Thank you

[@abigbutterstick1780]

Having the rotation, broken into 2 phases, with numbers and duplicate cast included made learning this so easy. Phenomenal job.

[@savadragic1939]

Thanks so much for the video! Played frost and was annoyed I couldn't get my numbers up. Was afraid to try arcane as it seemed to complicated but you explained everything in a way that made the spec easy to understand. Hope you keep producing more content like this!

[@GODNATLIVE]

Bravo, work ethic is insane.

[@wiljosabre]

Thank you A LOT man! I started Arcane Mage for the first time in Dragonflight and was very overwhelming to understand all the procs/passives etc. Coming from MM hunter were you just press 3 buttons when tbey shine and win lol. And there are many guides in YT but this is the best one so far, very informative, visual and precise! Keep that good work man! You definitely earnt my lile and sub!

[@s_a_n_e]

this is the only person you should be watching!!!

[@Zergylol]

Thank you so much! You've answered basically every question that I've had after looking through some of the arcane guides out there. Everything is extremely clear and well explained. Thank you!

[@DtotheOtotheG]

This helped me out so much more than the other guides. Images help so much! Great work!

[@cbrdealer]

Of all the guides for arcane I have seen this was the easiest to understand and retain. Great job.

[@tapiowe]

Just the guide i was looking. Explaining why are we doing things not only what are we doing. Also good walk through on priorities and what to do meanwhile.

[@kamranqureshi266]

Thank you so much for this, appreciate it. I've used your website for years but always wished there was a video guide.

[@Me_Pedestrian]

This just completed your website (text) guide, and what is better than Toegrinder himself teach you :) We want more of you with video guide and such!

[@hymn1337]

Great video! I think you're the first to explain the arcane harmony stipulation on pull so clearly, so i appreciate that!

[@Gidget2324]

Hi! I was wondering what addon or weak aura you have that shows the spell you need to use that is scrolling across your screen?

[@steffen7833]

yo bro nice guide but one question you didn't mention presence of mind. Do I use it inside the burn with 2 stacks of np?

[@mickyt4544]

I have just lived and breathed Fire, this was brilliant to help shift over into Arcane! thank you Toegrinder!

[@Worgslarg]

Hey, just wanted to say this was super helpful. Much appreciated :)

[@SupportTheseBands]

Great guide, thanks! Can always count on you for good content before a tier, really appreciate it.

[@Toegrinder]

Thank you

[@thooper76]

I've watched a lot of guides before, usually fire but sometimes others, and engaged with the mage community a lot. This is prob the best guide I've ever watched, for already knowing the abilities and core mage but wanting to properly understand min-max. Thank you.

[@Max-lw4hw]

Does anyone know which addon or WA creates that nice GCD tracker? It shows cast times, GCD, overlapping spells, current time and seems to be awesome to learn the rotation. I didn't manage to get TrufiGCD or Details streamer plug in to look like that. The only show icons without the cast time indicating bars I think. And apart from that. Nice video! Thanks! :D

[@SuperDezet]

Great work! Really in-depth details of every possible scenario. Really appreciate your work.

[@1blameonme1]

most informative guide out here there. Easy to follow and everything is well explained at a good phase

[@jephilos1]

Excellent guide. Move whatever you were looking at during the video so that your eyes appear to be focusing on the viewers.

[@TylerJBrown192]

Just wanted to drop a comment to thank you for this extremely helpful video, and an enormous thank you for all you've done for the Mage community. The game as a whole is made significantly better with folks like you in it. Cheers!

[@wilkins858]

Such a great guide thank you! Been waiting for a video guide for years!

[@Amnesia0000]

Hey toe, what are you using to have this gcd yellow bar tracker ?

[@nathanirvine2361]

Great guide with in-depth detail of different scenarios

[@MrSirZa]

amazing guide Toe! Thank you so much for putting in the time to assist us Magicians

[@Maxnotcry]

Wow thanks, thats the 4th guide im watching on yt after i read icy veins, even tho it seems everyone is saying the same i could follow you the best, definitly subbing and looking forwards to some content

[@Toegrinder]

Thank you

[@danchinan]

great job, especially for a first video guide. keep it up! :)

[@MoosePolo]

I’ve been an amazing frost mage in the days of old, I’ve been an all star fire mage in the days of recent, and now my time has come to finally learn arcane

[@pyrofusiondancer]

As a long term fire-only mage, all I can say is thank you tons for this.

[@nathanaelschramm7513]

Extremely informative guide Toegrinder, appreciate it tons - really helped me out! :)

[@pawsen9]

Fantastic job. Informative, great explanations and thank you for the visualisation. Merry Christmas

[@tykelly8236]

Thank you so much! This is so helpful as a new arcane mage player.

[@itsKyyyle]

The available resources in the mage community are unmatched. When I joined altered time during BfA it got me to the highest level of WoW I’ve ever played. Thanks for the work

[@peepeepooopoo]

love the visualisations

[@icyfork]

Are you using a tell me when profile for the visual rotation or was that just added in post for the video? Does one exist to help keep track of the opener/burn rotation?

[@brainlezz9906]

When do i use my on Use Trinket? in the ST opener? and racial?

[@Sonatafade]

Amazing guide! Thanks for all your hard work on the video, and also on the website. These are invaluable tools for anybody seeking to get better at mage!

[@SamirSadeek]

Great work! Really looking forward to more KZbin content from you =)

[@Toegrinder]

Thanks

[@DRG.2880]

Thanks a lot for this guide, tons of info and very detailed. I just have one question about Time-Breaching Talon, when should I use this trinket? After surge or before starting burst?

[@cryan8373]

Does anyone know how to go about getting the floating combat text seen here?

[@billy8140]

great guide, just a question when do you want to use your trinket/racial during your cds ?

[@Toegrinder]

After Arcane surge

[@bquirky23]

great guide :) at the end when you mention it's ok to hardcast missles when we have enough haste , would it technically be worth spamming arcane explosion to fish for as many clearcasting procs as possible since were gonna be evocating to full anyway before the pull . even on pulls when you shouldnt cast missles on pull , its seems safer to know for sure you'll have clearcasting for touch of the magi rather then assuming you'll get them from surge.

[@Toegrinder]

Prepull technically you can AE to get one clearcasting, you cannot get multiple as AE will consume them

[@theorem27]

Excellent guide! Highly recommend.

[@michaelrodrigues6447]

I've watched this video like 20 times... thank you!!!

[@bloodthorn1186]

found out about mage-hub from Manather's video, great guide video, thank you very much.

[@hayderrp]

The Goat

[@avogel7937]

What are your thoughts on Azure Arcanic Amplifier trinket for m+. The one that procs 2.5k ish crit, seems to proc rather often.

[@Toegrinder]

I've been using it. It's good because its very accessible but it should get outclasses by raid/m+ trinkets when the season starts

[@gabrielscanavachi1662]

You did an amazing work here, Toe. I already asked you in live but, can we have access to your main aura? Thanks a lot for the content!

[@kristofferlundgren3404]

Ty for the video! How would u set up a short burn? Maximum AOE or single damage in 10 sec?

[@ImHir0]

Hey Toe, any tips on how to manage mana after the 1st burn with double lust?

[@Toegrinder]

if you're struggling with mana refresh NT at 4 charges and barrage right away

[@Ovenproofpanda]

Awesome guide, thanks a lot. Comparing what I see on magehub vs wowhead some things you didnt talk about (which makes me wonder how relevant they are / useful when looking to kinda understand where both guide writers are coming from) - clipping arcane missiles and then the arcane barrage macro + weakaura they mention in the wowhead guide. Are these things just not really relevant / what are the thoughts on them. Do I always want to finish my missles cast during ToTM?

[@newwyuk]

Hey toegrinder great video, just a quick question, in the video you say mastery is 5th stat in priority but your mage hub says it’s 1st (after intellect obv) Which one would you say was more accurate now you’ve had chance to see logs etc Cheers man

[@xlightninghawk6360]

do you use arcane barrage right after touch of the magi? or do you use arcane missiles, arcane blast x2, arcane missiles, arcane blast x2 and then arcane barrage? and why is that?

[@retsimskeeseem6866]

Thanks so much for all your time and efforts!

[@slagbergh3848]

Hi mate! Tnx for a great video! A question! Can you update WA for Fire/frost aswell? :)

[@cannons3713]

Video was good. Would certainly be great if you did more in the future. That's my feedback

[@cyrusmir1]

something that isnt clicking for me is why touch of magi is cast after arcane surge - wouldnt you want the arcane surge to be in the window of magi as its a big damage spike?

[@TheZlimshady]

Your UI is so clean, any chance you can pass it along? Also thanks for a great guide. Edit: The raid and dungeon import shows exact same talents for me?

[@imannemati25]

This is a God Tier guide ; Ty very much ; great job

[@davidoliveira6995]

hey @toegrinder, what is happening to me , and its the question for me its, most of the time when i change burn phase to mini burn ,after shifting power i most of the time still got rune of power in cd for 2 /3 seconds what im doing wrong there?

[@MrBaiKn]

Thanks very much for taking the time to make a video on top of your site! Stupid question, is the dungeon talent tree the best for M0’s and M+? Thanks again!

[@Toegrinder]

I create them with M+ in mind, though I imagine its completely fine in M0s (I played Frost for most of them)

[@MrBaiKn]

@@Toegrinder Yeah awesome, I am trying to learn Frost atm for keys. Are you planning on doing a video version of your Frost guide?

[@Toegrinder]

@@MrBaiKn Yes, but I plan on doing Fire next

[@andrewpugliese9927]

Toegrinder- thanks for the content- really appreciate it. Mage-hub is an AWESOME resource. Thanks for making my wow-life easier =)

[@andrewpugliese9927]

Any macro recommendations for using our use trinkets?

[@LuciusBurke]

im finally getting to where i can do the opener without really thinking about it lol

[@ebubekirsargul2513]

Thank you for doing this. It helps a lot, thank you very much :)

[@YourFavoriteChef]

Is a dps decrease expected immediately after specing from frost to arcane? Big burn (first rotation) only getting like 30k Ilvl 387 - have geared as frost the entire time.

[@holtrops]

I needed this, thank you!

[@FRESH-sr9kc]

you dont do any second Barrage in the Touch window? u just let touch expire and then u throw the 2nd barrage?

[@robert8198]

This is a very attractive man. Also thanks for the guide. Really helping out!

[@devinnshaun1299]

What about crafted gear with sparks? Is molten spell blade good? Which embellished gear should be created first?

[@Treanorium]

Where do u use Arcane barrage on 20 stack buff? Isn't it more beneficial to use it at the end of Magi instead of an arcane blast?

[@xenonzero360]

Would you use your trinkets/pots at start of ramping for your arcane surge burn?

[@Toegrinder]

Yes though usually pot usage is a fight by fight basis which is why I didnt mention it. I should've mentioned trinkets. Generally start of arcane surge but it depends on the trinket

[@naofabo]

I am learning m+ right now, but my aoe is kinda low. I am not sure how to improve on it. should I be using cd's as soon as they are available?

[@DemonSlayer922]

Do we just ignore all time anomaly procs if we have to run it? Does rotation change with those procs?

[@Toegrinder]

Rotation does not change

[@Beto.oliveira96]

Its viable play with arcane in m+ without radiant spark? I really hate this skill because is so hard to manage and we have little time to do this.

[@lunchbox4415]

your aoe section is completely different to the one on icy veins and wowhead, which is one is correct?

[@marcmalinowski1984]

how do you play without any action bars? im not clear how your WA replaces standard action bars?

[@jthomas7453]

It says in your guide that Iced Phial of Corrupting Rage is better than charged isolation, is this because the stats are better, or because isolation can lose the int if youre too close?

[@utah123ify]

Hey bro. Is it worth to drop impetus for improved arcane missiles? If we drop slipstream we lose slipstream+impetus and since we use arcane blasts inside our magi instead of just arcane missile spam, is it worth? Do you also know which embellishment we'll play? Thanks for the video!

[@borislavvelkov4669]

bro I am not getting this, I am 394 ilvl with the same talents and doing 1:1 the rotation and I've got overall 29,4k damage for like 20 minutes straight on the dummy. Whats up with that?

[@WorldofWandag]

appreciate this guide a lot. Thanks for putting a lot of work into this. Any chance we get to see this in action? For me, I'd love to see it streamed in m+ and see how we compare with other classes in m+

[@Toegrinder]

I'll be uploading/streaming raid/m+ when the season starts

[@svoho2896]

Have you done any research into the tailoring sets yet? Azure or Chrono?

[@svoho2896]

Great video. Keep up the great content!

[@Limemulberry]

Absolute state of that tauren

[@Toegrinder]

It's pretty rough

[@personalowlbear5897]

Seems like mana gem build sims a lot higher on anything 3+ targets. Why is basically nobody running that build though? Is it less in reality vs sims?

[@andresantoniocidsanchez4359]

really nice guide

[@Toegrinder]

Thank you

[@Mojzesz78]

Great guide, learned a lot from this! Also, is there any chance that you would share your ui? ^^

[@TheDOC1988]

Can I ask, your burns seem to just stop when Touch of the Magi drops. Is this where we consider the burns complete? I've been struggling with this part, as I seem to be in RNG heaven where I'm just weaving Clearcasting and Precision procs, but is throwing me massively out of whack

[@Toegrinder]

No, Touch of the Magi is important too, but isn't a set sequence and is less complicated

[@TheDOC1988]

@@Toegrinder Yeah I get TotM is important, but watched the vid a few more times and I guess answered my own question :D Thanks

[@physzix6240]

I noticed for raid talents on mage hub you use arcane cleave instead of improved arcane missiles. Is this intentional? I would think improved arcane missiles would be better for ST.

[@Toegrinder]

There is one single target encounter in the raid

[@promethul793]

How many targets do we swap from arcane blast to arcane explosion ?

[@jackphilipsen452]

I dont like Nethertempest, can i skip the talent without losing a lot of damage?

[@mr.mcgurt2679]

Great video, doubled my dps.

[@TLTeo]

Out of curiosity, does Orb Barrage gain any value at all over e.g. Spark/Echo for short aoe fights like in low keys?

[@Toegrinder]

It's just criminally undertuned, I don't think its ever good anywhere

[@agathoorr1662]

thanks you man, really great visual

[@GiraffesOnTehParade]

This is super useful thank you!