Love this channel. It has probably become the most trustworthy and informative golf Channel on KZbin. Thank you for all the great content and work that goes into providing these videos.
@bryanlloyd69242 жыл бұрын
Love that Apex Pro Dispersion
@marshallw44922 жыл бұрын
Going for a Callaway fit on Friday. This couldn't have come at a better time. Great to be able to go in with some comparison info. Thanks guys.
@ianshepherd64762 жыл бұрын
I think the dcb is firmly in the game improvement category for what it’s worth
@Victor797264 Жыл бұрын
Love my DCB
@chrisengland12 жыл бұрын
Great video - at last a Callaway comparison on irons - now drivers & woods 😉 👏👏👏👏
@golfish8589 Жыл бұрын
Please put the lofts next to club name Great review
@justinstephenson93602 жыл бұрын
10 different irons feels several too many in the Callaway range. Looking purely at the numbers the Rogue ST Pro and X Forged CB are functionally identical so I would question why both clubs exist - and then there is the Apex which once you take into account statistical significance again is so close to being functionally identical that I cannot see why there are 3 clubs rather than one in the range. At least I could see a little difference between Epic Max Star (didn't even realise that club existed) and Apex DCB - DCB flies higher, a lot higher, and has a steeper launch angle so I guess if you regularly play on windy courses there is a reason for both clubs to exist - and I really like a black finish on irons. For me the stand out clubs were Apex DCB, Rogue ST Pro and TCB and for the right golfer maybe the Max OS - although the MBs are seriously beautiful, I am just not good enough to play them. So the obvious question is why so many irons in the Callaway range?
@davidcole23372 жыл бұрын
There is so many option it is good to have summary of models. Also you should have someone swing clubs with higher handicap.
@Golf_Hack2 жыл бұрын
My buddy is left handed and bought the Rogue X’s in 2020. I was still gaming Tommy Armour 845’s from 35 years ago. lol. His friend bought some right handed Rogue X’s and couldn’t hit them, so my buddy bought them for me without asking. That was super nice of him and I greatly appreciated it. But, they aren’t exactly a good fit for my game. I am a lower handicap player and like to work the ball, and these huge game improvement irons have no feel for workability. I also don’t see the point in removing 3&4 irons by jacking down the loft’s, then leaving you at 41 degrees at PW. Now I need to add 4 wedges to my bag past the PW. How long will it take for one of these companies to slap the number 7 on a 1iron, and call it the longest club ever to be made? lol
@rogerk71422 жыл бұрын
Wondering about the difference in off set ? Do you think more off set can make you strike it lower on face.
@jeffreypino339 Жыл бұрын
Apex pro are my clubs and I’m just in love with them
@jhanick2 жыл бұрын
I got a set of rogue st max. Golf shop told me they’d go farther. Just had my third back surgery so I need all the help I can get!
@2ndswing2 жыл бұрын
Yes they will provide you with more distance! let us know how they work out - Thomas
@briangraham1725 Жыл бұрын
Love watching these comparisons with clubs. I, myself have the Apex21. I like it because it’s a ‘heavy’ club. Do you ever compare the clubs by weight? When I asked Callaway about upgrading to a more pro grade, he recommended the X-forged cb. I can’t find an x-at any golf store so I can’t compare the weight difference. Can you comment on the weight differences?
@johnnybq22 жыл бұрын
Thomas is a machine … great guy for this comparison.
@2ndswing2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you watching - Thomas
@JayJay-jx3zg Жыл бұрын
Great video! If I'm coming from JPX 900 Tours and am looking for a little bit more forgiveness, especially in the longer irons, would the Apex Pro or X-Forged CB be most comparable? Maybe I should look at an Apex, Apex Pro combo set?
@deniseckert2132 жыл бұрын
Your timing could not have been better for this comparison! I am 72, just getting back into golf after a 5-year layoff due to injury, etc. I have played RAC LT irons with Rifle shafts since 2003, but need something different now with newer technology and an easier swinging shaft. I have hit the APEX 21, APEX Pro and Rogue ST Pro. I see you also got great numbers out of the X-Forged CB and APEX DCB. The clubs on both ends of these are not of interest to me based on my ability. Callaway also does Combo sets. Based on my swing speed, both the Dart 75 and MMT 85 are shafts that work best. If I wanted to Combo the set, would you recommend X-Forged CB or APEX Pro for the 8-PW, and APEX 21 or APEX DCB for the 5-7? If I were just doing a straight set, I think I would lean toward the APEX 21. Thanks for your thoughts!
@2ndswing2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff Denis! I think we would initially recommend Apex Pro and Apex DCB. Based on your swing speed, you'll likely need a bit more launch and spin, and each of those models is designed to provide more spin than the counterparts you included. With that said, you could also try Apex Pro and Apex 21, or Apex 21 and Apex DCB as your combo.
@deniseckert2132 жыл бұрын
@@2ndswing Thanks guys! Will do. Keep up the great videos. You are always first on my list to watch!
@darrenbell63762 жыл бұрын
After testing a few of these i opted for the apex 21. Brilliant irons for me
@StrudlePie2 жыл бұрын
These Videos Rule Guys!!! Never stop making them please!
@2ndswing2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! - Thomas
@aholataken2 жыл бұрын
Where's the e19 epic forged star?? Smokes all these!
@roryheath95362 жыл бұрын
Great video and test. Thanks for doing this.
@jakedeane30032 жыл бұрын
Well I'm definitely happy with my choice of the Rogue ST Max, especially since I'm a fairly new player
@Jaredxstp2 жыл бұрын
Did the st max make a good difference? I’m a new player too and bought a beginner set of strata clubs from scheels. Been thinking about upgrading since I golf basically every week now since July but I’m still learning golf and don’t have good distance
@jakedeane30032 жыл бұрын
@@Jaredxstp I had top flites before so it made a huge difference. They hit far when you get the sweet spot, I've been hitting my 6 iron about 210 off the t box. I golf just about every week and they've improved my game a lot
@Jaredxstp2 жыл бұрын
@@jakedeane3003 I’m gonna upgrade and see if it gives me more distance I can only hit my driver 220 haha I would like to get some distance out of my irons. Changing my ball from the Costco ball to Callaway supersoft seem to help but I feel my clubs aren’t the best since they are beginner Clubs
@jakedeane30032 жыл бұрын
@@Jaredxstp Yeah balls do make a difference, I went to a Callaway fitting which is where I got my clubs from and they recommended Chrome soft balls. I like the pro v 1's too but if you're swinging slower you want something soft. Honestly the stratas aren't horrible clubs, they're definitely better than my old top flites were. It helps to just get a consistent good swing down and then when you get your new clubs you'll be able to notice the difference
@Jaredxstp2 жыл бұрын
@@jakedeane3003 thanks for all the help and responses I appreciate it!
@DavidPetryk2 жыл бұрын
Great video and run down. Thanks
@nigellbutlerrr26382 жыл бұрын
The big Bertha is still a super club for me, graphite shafts. Quite sure that I will not be replacing them.
@2ndswing2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! - Thomas
@golfingmadeeasy Жыл бұрын
What about good knock-offs vs the original irons? Cost is definitely a concern.
@Murf18022 жыл бұрын
Great video , lots of information but surprisingly I followed you guys lol, you know I always liked the epic star but the price is insane so I never looked into that iron, I just purchased the apex tcb 8,9,pw idk if I made a mistake, I guess I'll find out in couple weeks ! I game the apex 19s and the lower scoring clubs and they go way to far for me! idk if that makes sense !! thanks guys
@randymahony81572 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this comparison guys. I think apex is going to be the 1.
@ieatcaribou7852 Жыл бұрын
I know you can’t for them, but you didn’t include the Edge. A very, very popular set due to price. Would’ve been awfully nice to see their comparison.
@danielfrancoeur83452 жыл бұрын
Are you considering a switch to Apex pro ? If I was your fitter, that's the iron I would suggest, based on dispertion, height, spin and small gain of distance between your gamer. What do youu think ?
@kwalter23232 жыл бұрын
I doubt Thomas Campbell will change out of his TCB irons
@SteveSmith-zz4ih2 жыл бұрын
i have the DCB but there is NOT a lot of feel and feedback for me, yes they are forgiving but so many shots feel dead (its probably my swing) so i stuffed up in my purchase process. manufacturers MUST start letting the customer play a round or 2 with a set of clubs it would help so much. The logistics would be a nightmare but they do make sh&t loads from we the consumer so i'm sure there is a easy compromise. Where i live we don't have access to trial sets. Not like the US and Can.
@R-J_Hopper Жыл бұрын
What's the spin like on the Rogue St max 8 iron. Because you wouldn't be hitting 7 vs 7, you'd be hitting your 8 or even 9 against your buddies
@richs81702 жыл бұрын
Thomas is swinging really, really well. Looks pretty
@2ndswing2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching - Thomas
@richs81702 жыл бұрын
@@2ndswing Good luck and play well in this year’s upcoming PGA Championship 👍🏻
@tellwilliams44932 жыл бұрын
I love your show before you hit each club please show a picture of it with the name otherwise we lose interest For those of us they don’t use these clubs every day what you’re doing helps us pick what we think would be good for us but without a picture and the name or lost
@ifonly.406311 ай бұрын
Are all these clubs blades?
@imagebybram2150 Жыл бұрын
So what would work best for a handicap 50 player, the MAX or MAX OS?
@derekwhyle1884Ай бұрын
Neither! Take some lessons first.
@andybarger8486 Жыл бұрын
The Epic Max is forged and is written on the hosel.
@Soul-Taker2 жыл бұрын
Shame you didn't test the Lite.
@bobpegram80422 жыл бұрын
There were so many heads it was jard to keep track.
@dry5092 жыл бұрын
For game improvement what about the Cleveland XL Launcher?
@TheDeepsilver2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure thats not a Callaway club?!
@barrick48072 жыл бұрын
I love the look of the max star wish it was made for the scratch golfer.
@2ndswing2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback - Thomas
@ianshepherd64762 жыл бұрын
I play apex pro 19 and love them but they sound terrible once you hit the 7 iron like crazy high pitch
@DavidPetryk2 жыл бұрын
What were you hitting range balls. The apex pro 19 is a great feeling and sounding club. Wish the 21 felt as nice and kept the shorter blade length.
@ianshepherd64762 жыл бұрын
@@DavidPetryk prov1 it just doesn’t have a soft sound compared to other players irons but I do still love them. They sound exactly like the 21s he hits here. P-8 is fine it’s when the cup face starts on the 4,5,6 that it starts to get that sound. It may even be the 7 but the short irons feel much better.
@oletreed4230 Жыл бұрын
Nice swing
@golfingmadeeasy Жыл бұрын
I really like my Ping G's but am afraid technology has passed them by. A senior golfer so money is limited.