Ultimate CP4 FIX! |

[@daviderickson6933]

Quick question why is it timed

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Noise nvh

[@Ian_SS]

During the DCR validation testing for 2011-2019 model years, S&S did not find a benefit to timing the DCR pump to the engine. However, for 2020+ model years there is a small NVH benefit to timing the pump specifically when the ECM commands a certain rail pressure control mode at light engine load. For this reason and to retain product commonality across the model years, S&S recommends to time the DCR on all model years according to the S&S installation instructions. A future change to the DCR pump in Q4 2023 will add a roll pin to the pump shaft at which point the timing process will match the OEM Ford CP4 timing procedure for all model years.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Thanks buddy

[@daviderickson6933]

Oh ok I see so same reason you would clock a cp3 on a Cummins is some sorta noise

[@JaegerWrenching]

The CP4 is originally timed to match the one of the two pumping heads to feed the rail/bank of cylinders that is currently firing. By timing them together it helps increase peak pressure, and keeps fuel flowing into the bank/fuel rail where it is needed most. A natural byproduct of doing this is less noise and vibration. This is because it's pumping fuel through an open door instead of a closed door. I'm assuming it also helps the injectors rate shape stay a little more consistent as well, but I am no fuel systems engineer or expert by any means...

[@michaelhines4600]

For anyone who has this truck and is going to self install. Please send this man a donation. I am a former tech who went i to the insurance business and I can tell you this guy is awesome on these fords.

[@nknaakco3966]

agreed, this was the best video I found, I'm 218k on my 2018 f-250, and glad the cp4 has had no issue so far, but will sleep better after I get this DCR installed

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Let us know brother, we are takin people from all over

[@kotech2003]

The LAST minute of this video is what I live for as a mechanic. You do a TON of work to a customer’s vehicle and when it comes to life AND doesn’t leak, it’s a great sense of accomplishment and reward for a lot of good attention to detail!

[@nbrowser]

As a mechanic that does install aftermarket things once in a while...full colour instructions with clear text as to what you have to do is vitally important. The little things that make the job go so much easier.

[@nickmorzella221]

10 outta 10 bro, nice work. The world needs more people committed to quality n craftsmanship like yourself n S&S diesel.

[@zekester1]

Totally agree 💯💯💯💯💯👍💪

[@RainmanRaysRepairs]

He’s a master of his craft 💪

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

🦸‍♀️🦸‍♀️🦸‍♀️🦸‍♀️

[@rayc5255]

People who have that old fashioned idea that pride in workmanship is worth it. Bravo, refreshing

[@cliffordmontana4562]

You’re smarter than a fricking brain surgeon! I’m impressed. I have a 7.3 Godzilla and still watched this whole video. The Godzilla meets my needs, and with me only having basic skills (oil changes, brakes) I’m kind of glad I don’t have the diesel. I’m sure this wasn’t cheap. Good work bro!

[@FatFendered39]

Hands down the best repair/install video on the web. Extremely detailed. I feel very comfortable completing this repair at home and saving $$$.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Hey, well thanks

[@jmad9294]

S&S killed it on the design and Arod with Great install video. I’ll be ordering one very soon. Glad I found this channel!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yes sssir

[@armedprophet3321]

Hey Aaron, I can tell you from experience that the blue loctite “GEL” is so so much better and easier to use. It stays where you put it and doesn’t make a mess that you have to clean. I build and repair firearms and loctite is always a MUST use item, before I found the gel it was ALWAYS messy pain in the tookus. Just thought I would give you another tool to place in your mental toolbox brother !

[@brandonthompson2936]

Love your videos bro! I wish dealers in my area had techs like you and diesel tech Ron God bless his soul.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

R.I.P. DTR, see you on the other side my friend

[@BarnStangz]

Man, that was one hell of a nice installation! S&S really did their homework with this new pump! I have a feeling you'll be installing a LOT of these for your customers because your attention to detail is 100%. Love watching you install this stuff, taking your time, doing it right... How you do anything, is how you do everything... Nice work man and happy Father's Day!

[@mopar_6148]

Because of his attention to the detail, I've got a December 15th appt to have him do mine. That's what caught my eye first and foremost. Detail detail detail... Added piece of mind.

[@BarnStangz]

He's one of the best for sure! And yeah, his attention to detail is what makes people go have him perform work. I've learned a lot from him too!@@mopar_6148

[@kevinmcquitery4543]

@@mopar_6148 what state is he in and how much is everything going to cost to have it done?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

@kevinmcquitery4543 hey brother email us. There is info we need to know before hand

[@tech3nc]

Hopefully S&S can get enough made to make this either an option or standard from the factory. Looks like it is very well engineered. Nice job on the install.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

NOT gonna be from the factory 😔

[@pncsmith2623]

Great detailed how to video as always! Installed the DCR on my 2018 F250 this weekend in my driveway. Having watched your video along with the detailed instructions from S&S made the job go smooth. About 300 miles on the new install and truck is running great. (FWIW…I opted to leave the clutch fan and bracket assembled and just removed the 5 bolts of the fan bracket to access the vacuum pump)

[@mwstonesr]

Legit work on the install. Would gladly own a 6.7 with the HPFP issue addressed.

[@bartorob]

Small world. I was in SC visiting a friend (Scott). He's friends with Andrew. They worked together back in the day. Great content!

[@michaelroth3471]

Good to see the real fix for the CP4 is out! Way to go S&S. I must be old school because I don't ever reuse gaskets, o-rings etc.

[@SSfueled]

Great install video, thank you for helping our customers out.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

We got chu, @ssfueled

[@zekester1]

Hey, @ssfueled running DPK now...got the DCR ordered & ARod is putting it on in July....WE NEED SOME MERCH!!!!🙏...would love to buy a shirt, hat, hoodie & wear it Proudly!!👍💪💯

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Yeahhhhhh!!!!

[@charlesklippel92]

A-Rod Don't think for one minute that I won't replace mine I just ordered one it's pricey but better than replacing a motor Good job sir 👏👏🤝🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Amen

[@peterthomas3882]

Awesome, awesome job on the install. This video will be a valuable reference! Now, I just gotta save my pennies....

[@MrJalyles]

Brother you’ve got the patience of Job!! Those lines almost never go back like yours did!! Great job!! 🤠

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Over 60 installs later.....🤣🤣

[@johnsukey9944]

Beautiful work! Kudos on doing the full install video. I'm sure it will help many people down the road. I just hope that Ford can get on the same page and eventually offer something like this from the factory.

[@prodieselrepair3218]

This is so awesome! These guys designed a great product and you made an awesome movie on how to install it. I'm defineatly going to recomend these pumps to my 6.7L customers.

[@Uncle_Fester24]

Very OEM looking. Great install and excellent camera work!

[@Drakovian51]

I don't know a lot about trucks but this video was fascinating. Thanks Arod

[@jamescooper1154]

And that's why your a freaking professional wish you were near me to do my work

[@armandomaldonado1559]

Very nice man it looks good. You're a good mechanic.

[@Ranger4banger]

Awesome install. Super factory looking. Definitely a game changer

[@davestewart9146]

That’s one well designed and thought out pump system, nicely done Sir 👍😁

[@herveyforward5956]

Very well documented, 50K on my CP4 every trip is a will I make it home ok. I'm excited to get one installed after I find a Surgeon to perform the operation vs Flat Rate man, Nice job-

[@zfilmmaker]

I hope S&S is paying Arod for all these videos he makes about their products…he deserves it!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

We love S&S

[@loganeley2342]

good stuff, glad there is an option for 6.7 guys

[@Unbleachd]

Love these SnSDiesel cp3 conversions! Done 2 this last year on customer trucks after cp4 disasters.

[@kingranch8516]

Makes want a 6.7, funny my local dealer got a 350 tremor want it bad but it’s the high out put, I don’t drive enough or I would kill it. Nicely done sir

[@ed389]

Just finished my installation. Took a bit longer than I expected because I cleaned all the parts . My upper and lower intakes were full of nasty dark soot. Also replaced the thermostate and a new drive belt since I had it all open. The return line seamed very hard to get on, I took the 8mm bolt on the valvecover and was able to get the line on and connected. Then put the 8mm bolt back on. Truck firred on first try. Your videoes are packed with info. Thanks for your skills and sharing.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Thanks for comin back and keepin it real

[@ed389]

Still need to do the EGR cooler newer guts from a 2017 6.7

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

We do em all day

[@ed389]

@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I bought a 2017 CCV FC3Z 6A785 F. My 2013 has a sensor and my new one does not. Wonder if I have to buy one that fits my truck DG 412 AB.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

@ed389 you will BUT if you had recall 17M04 done, the PCM no longer looks at that sensor

[@BG-xh5rb]

Hey Aron. Nice job. I installed mine last week, drove it about 1k miles, and it is running fine. Now I hope it last over time.

[@Hemi878]

How many hours did it take ya ?

[@BG-xh5rb]

It took me about 6 hours. While you're at it, if the belt and ccv need to be changed out, do so. @@Hemi878

[@mikebennett5284]

I have already ordered mine from hill diesel can’t wait to get the email that it has shipped thanks A-rod

[@louie3552]

Well Done Sir! My order for the new pump is in. In hurry up and wait mode for it to arrive. I know there is a back-log already on the orders for these.

[@mathewdunacn5876]

I highly recommend this and or the disaster kit. I bought a used 2017 F250 and about a month in experienced issues, and after dropping it off the $12k bill to replace the entire fuel system wasn't enjoyable. So whatever you do spend the $650 on the disaster kit its better then thousands.

[@joer6571]

Just got mine installed. Did it in the garage a couple evenings after work. Highly do not recommend doing this yourself if you have low patience 😅

[@kurtbyars766]

😂😅😂😅

[@markgriffiths2698]

Very nice job. That's got to be the best video I've seen in 40 plus years

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Cmon...

[@dennistausky379]

I have the 6.7 in my RV super C... 25k miles and the CP4 is showing signs of failing & out of warranty... AaaaaH! Never new of this problem since this is my first diesel. I'm not new to fixing cars, fighter and cargo aircraft, tractors, boats, ect... but I am a novice at this attempt. You may have convinced me to DIY this.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Email us, we haven't come in from all over the united states

[@ed389]

Doing this next week. Also doing the egr cooler with the 2017 internals. Also a newer CCV version. A few more weeks will be changing the Turbo. Also doing the cold and hot pipes from H&S.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Watch our EGR video, just made 1 for that

[@gliv2]

Master level install, nice job man. That is a nice kit, well thought out with instruction detail.

[@3091752]

I have the kit I’ll probably run that til when or if my cp4 pump fails I think that’s a fair compromise for those that don’t want to run and buy a new pump now

[@mjbskidoo]

Awesome job bud, I will get one eventually, but for now I’ll let my DPK do it’s job. Only have 12,700 on my 22. One day 👍🏼❤️

[@jeffconley819]

I only have 6k in my 22’ and really want that new pump . But for now the DPK will have to work. I just gotta order one and find somebody to put it on.

[@wifeunit]

I don't usually watch KZbin videos, but when I do, I watch PTT w/AROD

[@tdotw77]

😅😅

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Now that is some funny $hit right therrrr

[@zekester1]

SWEET!!🤩Nice job!!👌...That's way I'm making the trip to Big D!!😉👍💪💯

[@paytongarcia7188]

Most anticipated video of the year

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Riiiiiight

[@Chris_nandez]

Just picked up a 2022 f350 lariat and been loving all your content. Was wondering if you have Google doc or PDF of a maintenance schedule/Log you recommend and at what intervals

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

I do not but have a video we did in maint when i was in front of a white board

[@cachebenson7837]

Hey arod! I'm about to do the dcr, question is, does piping kit really a must do? Whats the real world benefits? Thank you for the response 🙏

[@andrewspies1968]

If i only had an extra 2K...tech advances are awesome! thanks for doing these videos! i have the CP4 bypass that Ray talked to you about helping with a few months ago. Still need to get that done.

[@jerryknorr679]

Wow that was a great video ARod, thanks for sharing you make it look so easy. Thank you

[@walterk15able]

I can't wait for my kit arrive!!!!!

[@Rex-mw3xm]

My buddy is about to buy a 6.7 gonna save the money and this video for when he does

[@darrelwilson2875]

Very nice kit, and nice video!

[@ianwille5780]

Nice job on showing the installation of the new fuel pump!! What’s up with the jets taking off in the background?? Lots of background noise

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Star ship enterprise heater above my head

[@JoshHefnerX]

I'm kinda surprised at how long this 'fix' took to come about. These engines have been around quite a few years now, and many people have paid the price literally.. But looks fantastic. Good vid!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Over 10 years

[@laszlovass7326]

CARB

[@jtopdawg6]

Awesome. I can’t wait to get one of these after 2 cp4 failures on my previous truck.

[@jasoncox2132]

Was it fuel contamination?

[@jtopdawg6]

@@jasoncox2132 the first time they say it was. The time the pump gave up.

[@jasoncox2132]

@@jtopdawg6 Ok. Just curious cause I’m at 196k on my 17 and original pump. Little nervous about it and considering this DCR conversion.

[@jtopdawg6]

@@jasoncox2132 I’m so gun shy with my 17 now. I run fuel additive every fill up and stay on top of changing the filters and I don’t let it get low in fuel. Im definitely going with this new pump.

[@jasoncox2132]

@@jtopdawg6 Right there with ya! I put 8 oz of Amsoil fuel additives every fill up. And I’m picky about where I fuel up. Only the newest stations that sell a lot of fuel. And filters every 10k

[@jackylsmith8138]

Nice job. I’ll be getting a 6.7 soon. The old 7.3 is now 22 years old and the Salt in New England hasn’t been nice to it. I was shying away from the 6.7 for this issue and leaning to the 7.3 gas, now they have lifter and cam issues. Why Ford, why.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

6.7 all day

[@CPsGarage]

Should just go south and get another 7.3 😂

[@07glide5]

truly impressive !!!

[@rangervapes571]

Is it possible to keep the S&S DPK filter in line? Acknowledge it's not needed but redundancy is good should the pump grenade.

[@pooroledaddyfishing8132]

Awesome video. Do you have to time the pump with the timing marks on 2020.

[@CPsGarage]

They should be pinned in the correct location. If not I believe PTT has the correct location for timing. Timing is mainly for NVH.

[@nor-calminer1441]

Hell yeah man, def gonna have to do it!! Great install vid.

[@crasher88]

That intake is a work of art far superior to the factory intake

[@popeshaxx422]

I’m wondering how much shops will charge to install this, or should I tackle this myself? I’m no mechanic but I’d be willing to pay 1500 for install, after that I feel like if I take it slow I think I could pull it off, especially with this video! Great video as always man!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Come see us

[@popeshaxx422]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I would love to but I’m sure it’s to far I’m in south eastern Texas !

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Cmon...texans are always comin thru even NM

[@JustinKingOffroad]

beautiful install, probably more than i can handle missing some of those specialty tools but i'll have to consider this for my 19.

[@d.a3446]

Terrific video, very impressive! May have to come see for this one.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Lets do it

[@georgelewis9729]

Thanks AROD! Awesome work and videography DS!!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Ehhhh that @DSTRUCKS he's an okay fella 🤪

[@darrendavis7781]

Awesome video! Can’t wait to have you install mine brother!

[@corbinfairweather]

How bout just leaving that ccv box out for good measure. I think there is a kit for that 🤘🏼

[@corbinfairweather]

Take my money and make a trip to OK 😂 or I guess I can do some wrenching. Great video! As always 🧐

[@realcdcruze3558]

Do you recommend using copper thread dope to help facilitate removal in the future. If the stuff works, why doesn’t Ford use it especially for the manifold bolts?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

To help facilitate what coming apart

[@Ltngdrvr]

So, S&S says their kit doesn't work on the 2020+ engines yet, but here you are installing one on a 2021, any idea why S&S says it isn't set up for 2020+ trucks???

[@sammy9452]

Got one coming, Thoroughbred Diesel

[@Sasquatch7.62]

Id like to know what intake system is used on that truck, brand or manufacturer? Great detail on the install, absolutely looks like factory!

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

I think the old guy said it was a Pusher system

[@Sasquatch7.62]

​@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARodthanks for the info! Do you think the pusher system is better than the spe system or vise versa?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

After using their products and actually TALKING to them, Pusher by FAR is TOP tier 👌 Jacob will help you along the way

[@Sasquatch7.62]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thanks for the great insight! I appreciate your time and videos! Thank you

[@mjmjersey]

Excellent video I'm doing my research because I'm debating between getting a 67 powerstroke diesel in a 6.2 L gas engine I'm just wondering about the leading in this is a different way of deleting everything right

[@raider762]

A 15mm magnetic socket with a QD extension would work well for those bolts.

[@BeardedFordTech]

I cannot wait to install these

[@JeepBigE]

Badass video bud. Nice lookin parts. 👍

[@magnuseriksson5721]

Tahat looks sooo nice

[@au2thestin]

I know you mentioned it, but I assume this would void the Ford warranty? Or does it not because it's certified? Great work as always

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Why you think it wld void it

[@beetleberries]

I ordered my kit for a 17' w/ 90k and I was wondering what suggestions you have for other maintenance. Installing a new belt of course but what about the fan bracket/bearing, idler pulleys, water pump, or hoses etc?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Maybe the hoses but no pulleys or idlers

[@keithkelley8913]

If you could would be neat to see rail pressure while driving. Great job as always.

[@zekester1]

You can!!!...it's called Banks idash with OBDII connectivity...you can read fuel rail pressure & many more items ...love mine!!👍💪💯

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Love mine

[@louie3552]

@@zekester1 Exactly. I have the dual Banks gauges now, and the 3rd Banks gauge waiting on the triple pillar mount in route.

[@zekester1]

@@louie3552 I too have two....one Super Gauge & one Data Monster with the dual suction mount...waiting on the dual stealth pods (ships next week) so I can keep grab handle...the knee some times acts up & grab handle is needed🙄!... Damn old knee any how!!!🥺👍💪💯

[@louie3552]

Decided to go with Ortiz for my triple pod (with the speaker supported). Have talked to a few people that got dual and triple pillar mounts and most were not that happy with the plastic build quality. Ortiz takes a factory Ford pillar, takes them apart, and builds their triple gauge pillar mounts around the OEM pillar. A bit pricy but I only want to do this once with a quality pillar set-up. Found the Banks dual suction cup started coming apart on the windshield rubber after heat buildup. Last week was 2nd time I have had to superglue it in the 18 months I have had the Banks windshield mount. Do I really need the 2nd Supergauge with the the super and data monster I have… eh likely not but I am a data junky with my SD and there are a couple of additional items I would like to keep an eye on.

[@johnnyrizzo8057]

I love it buddy awsome job. Nice to see she on a diet plan. Now all we have to do is stop the Chinese from copying this pump.😮

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

It is a nice kit!!!

[@markmoniz7472]

very nice product! Can't wait for mine to show up!!

[@colt4528]

Nice clean install now how can I get you to install one for me?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Hey buddy, email us...were standing by

[@pwayne6923]

I need to get you to do this to my truck. 2012 powerstroke

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Can u email us [e-mail]

[@raider762]

Just a thought to S&S. Make the the end of the studs end in an external torx size like E12.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Theyre now allens

[@michaelahlers307]

Very well done as usual! After watching manufacturers video as well couple questions. What about timing pump and installing gear? 2 Important Steps that seem to be skipped over quickly. Timing Marks not required to line up? Lock-tite Factory Nut? I am Master Technician myself and member of DTS. Thanks for your attention to detail. Making these training videos can't be easy! PS, Who made your Intake Tube System? Looks Awsome!! Mine is ordered! 15 F350 60k.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

[e-mail]

[@willf2896]

Will get one for my 2023 when its released! Whats the average labor cost to install?

[@hernandelgado5986]

Aaron iam picking my 23 6.7 High out put on Monday should I change that fuel pump of should I put the disaster kit on for now what is your thoughts on that

[@CPsGarage]

Can't really go wrong either way. Throw a DPK on it until the pump goes then do a DCR pump since you won't have to do a complete system.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Either or buddy, we'd love to put it on for ya

[@sakoboomer2420]

Great video!!! Thanks for sharing!

[@JMSynthetics]

AROD is that the pusher intake system. How did it all work together?

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Flawless, customer insisted on the blue. I likes their copper color & black one 😍

[@JMSynthetics]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod gloss black would look great with the banks setup. That's what I am leaning towards.

[@egidijusmickevicius5741]

Hello Aaron thats an awesome video Where are you located? If i were to order dcr pump would like to ask for your time for installation. 2021 F350 DRW 110k miles thank you

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

[e-mail]

[@egidijusmickevicius5741]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Which state are you in

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Detroit

[@davidwoods7360]

I have got to have this pump.

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

U will like

[@rustyrobinson8027]

was already subscribed saw you on rainman rays repairs

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

Hey buddy

[@rustyrobinson8027]

@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thanks for being on Ray's channel it's really cool to see two highly experienced automotive technicians in action simultaneously 👍

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

We have lots of fun. Just got off the phone with him

[@carl2591]

this make a "glitter bomb" ford worth owning now.. If i ha d a ford with any miles with the CP4 this is teh FIRST thing i would get changed out. the pump is like 2k.. installing if you are not able is what a grand.. 3 k to save a 12K issues. OH HELL yeah.. too bad ford would not do them on all new fords in 2024.. thanks man..

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

....lik more than that pal

[@Mark-qb5ip]

Ok, just take my money... 🤑 Did you say this will not void the factory warranty? I mean it does improve on the design... just take my money already...

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

No void pal🫶

[@natey891]

That’s a nice ass kit

[@tws7242]

Awsome video! Question: I have a 2020 f350 no foglight bumper can tell me what I need to get/buy to have it done, not sure if my truck already has a factory harness need your knowledge brother thank you 🙏🏼

[@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod]

I havent done one of those