Ultimate Dust Collection Shop Vac Cyclone Cart Reduce Noise 75%

[@mrx-in4xh]

Hi, you kindly directed me to this video from your muffler video, and glad to see that you're building something along the lines of what I had in mind. I just ordered a Dust Deputy so will have that sitting on the top of the cart. Just wanted to share with you that when I cut styrofoam I use the soldering iron so that it cuts and seals at the same time and you don't end up with all the annoying little pieces. I also built a cutter using thin piano wire through which I run current from a few AA batteries, which heats up the wire very quickly and cuts styrofoam like a laser :). Thanks for your videos

[@Ledbringer67]

Wow! Glad I found your channel. I basically built a cart as a rolling base for my compound mitre saw. My noisiest shop vac on earth fits right in there!

[@victoryfirst2878]

Thank you Jeff for showing us the finer points of dust and noise collection. I will be building myself one with a few differences. The addige states that when one can stand on shoulders of giants he becomes one himself. The debris bucket will be more of see through, the hose will have an automatic reel, for both cord and hose. Size will be a lot smaller because of modular design.Finally, no coffee cup warmer, waste of space as I do not like the Java cup. You really did your homework for us on KZbin to make our life easier with less sneezing and no need for earplugs too.

[@woodworkingyoutube]

Sounds like some good thoughts on upgrades you are planning. Would love to see a picture of your cart when you're done. Thanks for watching.

[@victoryfirst2878]

@@woodworkingyoutube When I am done, I will send you a image WCP. Keep on making great videos too.

[@ronaldberger2170]

I've built a few sound studios. It's the reverse of confining sound in a space; for a recording studio you want to keep sound out. In any case, the principle is the same: that you stop sound transmission with Mass. I.e, something Dense. For a sound studio the best is 12" of concrete. My suggestion for soundproofing for your vac cart would be to build the enclosure out of a couple layers of MDF.

[@Ted_James]

Nice work! Great idea on the noise reduction, too.

[@user-ue7mw7hg7n]

What a badass. Never stop

[@RageTheNumbers]

Great idea with the magnets

[@woodworkingyoutube]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@marcusplywooder1907]

Nice i will be watching all the videos

[@woodworkingyoutube]

Thanks for watching the next one is already scheduled.

[@nateb4543]

Pretty slick with the magnets. The biggest issue with my first build was emptying the bucket. My fix for the on and off was a christmas tree light foot switch. I could out it anywhere including a few feet away from the unit wherever i am

[@TheCleric42]

What was the decibel level in your shop after incorporating the muffler boards? Did you also have your plastic plumbing based muffler inside of the muffler board box?

[@DIYtryer]

I like the carabiner clip for the cord holder!

[@VacFink]

Nicely done. I had come to a similar conclusion / strategy that used cheap moving blankets on hard board as lightweight panels to absorb sound for my CNC enclosure. I also wonder if a layer of automotive hush mat outside and/or in panels around the motor housing and canister would further soften the sound. I'm hoping to test that soon as I design and build my bench and dust collection. It was nice to see the blankets in practice and they appear to work as i expected. Thanks!

[@dennismacwilliams196]

Nice Video thanks

[@woodworkingyoutube]

Glad you liked it

[@cackleberryfarm4598]

Don't you need some sort of access to the vacuum itself to eventually dump it and clean the filter?

[@michaelbottalico]

Is your muffler inside the cabinet and how is the air exhausted,

[@nicklamacchia9955]

For the vacuum compartment are only the 4 side walls sound proofed or is the top and bottom panels insulated as well?

[@crackerjack3359]

Watched both videos now both great. Where is the air inlet for the vac in the box? Do you think this box would help with my air compressor? This video was very punctual for me since I have just thrown out my old vac and will be getting a new one. Thanks.

[@woodworkingyoutube]

This would absolutely help with a compressor as long as its not gas powered of course. Thanks for watching.

[@williammccain9790]

Does the foam restrict air from the vacuum cleaner. Will it make your vacuum cleaner hot And will it make your vacuum cleaner life shorter.

[@krperry2007]

Nice cart! Wondering if it might help to put a cone shaped transition to bridge the internal flange between the pails so you don’t collect dust on top of the flange? Or use an external flange? Or is this baffle a benefit?

[@woodworkingyoutube]

I do get a little build up on the lip, but nothing that really creates much of a mess because the parts are really moving inside the top bucket due to the vortex. If I did this again I would probably use an external flange like a gamma lid.

[@markgarrett2971]

Great video. I was wondering if adding a wooden baffle for the air to escape would help with airflow and further reduce airflow noise. A year in, what would you do to improve? I see there is thicker noise reduction foam boards at my big box. Would a thicker air layor and switching from 1/4 inch board to 1/2 in board help?

[@lucassalvador4284]

Hi! Today found your channel and see that you understand very well how to reduce noise. I am making a table saw with my circular saw and i'm trying to figure out how to reduce the noise it generates. Do you think I can apply what you did here? O Is there a risk of the engine overheating? thank you

[@woodworkingyoutube]

Hey Lucas, yes the enclosure would work very well. You will want to put a few small venting holes in the bottom of the box to allow air movement. What benefits you with your saw is that you don't run it for long periods. The circular saw motor is pretty small so the enclosure should allow plenty of air space which is moved around by the saw itself whenever you turn it on. Let me know how you make out, and would love to see a picture when you are done.

[@pauldavidson4977]

A solution to the placement of the shop vac switch is to install an electrical box with a switch assembly, wiring the shop vac cord, and an extension cord to it, thereby plugging in and using the switch. Or a double box with a duplex and a switch, and keeping your shop vac cord intact.

[@woodworkingyoutube]

Thanks for watching

[@radiusnorth1675]

Thanks for your effort in making these videos. Did you keep the muffler you built in a previous video, in this design?

[@woodworkingyoutube]

No, I tried to make the box as small as possible and with the sound reduction I didn't feel it was necessary. Thanks for watching.

[@holman26]

how many Ridgid shop vacs do you have

[@woodworkingyoutube]

I have 2

[@carlkoepp1112]

While I found this video to be fantastic, informative and beneficial all the way through, my only question would be: does the vacuum motor ever oerheat inside such a restrictive enclosure? Do you have a cool air intake for the motor itself? And how does the outflow air escape the box, or did you have the outflow mufler mounted outside the noise box? Thanks again for a great video.

[@donobeirne]

Also wondering these things

[@cletusrobinson]

Simply Fabulous design! What size is the ShopVac?

[@woodworkingyoutube]

I have two a 6 hp and a 5 hp both rigids. I dont really have a preference for rigids they were just what the big box store near me has in stock. Thanks for watching.

[@fredscott413]

thanks.

[@woodworkingyoutube]

Thanks for the humor and watching.

[@rawbacon]

Nice design, I have what looks to be the same vacuum and you're right those little wheels are kinda worthless.

[@Borescoped]

Came here from the muffler video... found the rare P&W coffee cup! Wish I still had mine, think my wife broke them LOL.

[@woodworkingyoutube]

Thanks for watching.

[@Jeff1Jeff2Jeff3Jeff]

Interesting video .. I would like to see how the cyclone performs with a large volume of chips and shavings .. Four or five gallons .. Does that weight of chips make the magnetic bucket connection fail? I suppose you could place a wedge under the bottom bucket if failure occurs. Thanks

[@woodworkingyoutube]

Great question, I was wondering that myself which is why there is very little room under the lower bucket. That way it doesn't have any place to go. There are 6 neodymium magnets on top and bottom so I estimate there is at least 10 lbs of holding force. The rubber seal had more of an impact on the mag pull than I expected it to, but it still held nicely.

[@christopherlynch9369]

Can you add link for the magnets and coffee warmer?

[@morgandavidpatton]

In your other video, you made an exhaust muffler and provided some great math. In this video, I don't see what you do with the exhaust line. Are you still using a PVC muffler or is the exhaust just inside of the cabinet? Did the padded cabinet really offer that much more sound reduction then the muffler?

[@woodworkingyoutube]

The sound insulation reduced the sound significantly, so i decided not to include the muffler. This also helped keep the box size down a little. Thanks for watching.

[@williep3100]

In this video, he did exactly what I said in the comments for the other video, where I stated the effective method for reducing the sound on a shop vac. And my solution did not include a muffler. Know this: a muffler on a shop vac is like tits on a bull, because it's almost useless. He thanked everyone for their comments and input, but for me, his harshest critic who offered the best solution, all I got was a "thanks for watching...", as he scrapped that muffler doodad, never mentions it again, and comes out with an enclosed unit that is 75% quieter. What math...?

[@gametakeaway]

What happens if you block the suction pipe completely with your hand or if you try to vacuum too much dust? I'm having problems with mine when the inlet pipe grabs the floor, the 30l plastic barrel I use starts to compress inwardly. Most of the dust ends up in the vac and a small amount of dust ends up in the barrel 😭. I experimented a bit and with a transparent view into the barrel, I blocked the inlet completely with my hand and I could swear I thought I saw the dust going up out of the barrel into the vac. Current theory is the barrel is too weak and I need to think about a pressure relief valve. Thoughts appreciated, Thanks.

[@woodworkingyoutube]

I have not seen the bucket collapse, but the black flex hose that connects the shop vac and bucket does collapse since it is far less rigid than bucket. Since the buckets are held together by magnets the rubber seal will probably lose contact if the bucket deforms at all.

[@gametakeaway]

@@woodworkingyoutube It could be that adding the extra bucket increases the volume and helps reduce the pressure on the total surface area inside the bucketsphere. I've got a fairly powerful shopvac and have used smooth pipes, the suction is too much for the plastic barrel when I block the pipe. will try a steel drum when I can. Thanks for sharing your experience 👍

[@zwiebec78]

I had the same problem, all I did was drill an 1/8" (it may be a bit bigger than that, I don't remember for sure now) hole in the lid of the bucket. problem solved, no noticeable difference in suction.

[@nelsonbrum8496]

If you are just using one bucket, drop it inside of another bucket, that second bucket doesn't have vacuum acting directly on it, and will keep the collection bucket from deforming and collapsing. Personally, I use a Dustopper from the same big orange store as the buckets. I started with a homemade Thien baffle built into the top of one bucket, that was riveted to the top,of a second collection bucket. The dustopper works just as well, but with less vertical wasted space.

[@petertombers8573]

Does the sound enclosure have any means to allow air in to cool the shop vac?

[@woodworkingyoutube]

Good question, there is a gap in the base to allow air circulation. For both heat and to avoid a delta P reduction of air flow. Thanks for watching.

[@Ashevillein]

Okay, not to sound like a dumb butt, but where does the external hose go? I can't quite tell from the video

[@woodworkingyoutube]

The hose from the shop vac goes up to the top connection and the hose from the side of the bucket is the pick up hose for cleaning. There is an outlet port were vac exhaust blows out which is just left open to the inside cavity. The bottom of the cart has an opening cut in it to allow for air circulation. Hopefully that answered your question. Thanks for watching. If its still not clear let me know and I will send you some pics.

[@vkhombal]

@@woodworkingyoutube crucial detail. thanks for clarifying

[@jeffryjax]

The sound of the vacuum is a pain in the ear for me , literally. Thanks for the solution. This will be one of my next shop builds. Two questions: 1) Are there any over heating issued with the vac in its sound reduced box? 2). Is there enough suction left to connect to some permanent PVC lines with blast gates to a couple of work stations such as a table saw, miter saw, router table etc...?

[@woodworkingyoutube]

Unfortunately even wide open a shop vac really doesn't move enough air for most larger power tools like a table saw. The problem is the fine dust is not trapped and goes airborn because of the low air volume. Take a look at my video on dust collection for a basic review of requirement for dust collection. Most power tools require 400-600 cfm and there is no way a shop vac could accomplish this. Thanks for watching.

[@RayZde]

Add a small trash can with a footer lever for the lid.

[@woodworkingyoutube]

Good thought, thanks for watching.

[@fredscott413]

could be used to make cotton candy.

[@seanflanagan5674]

ewww … that coffee looks like gramma's tea! Doubt getting PVC cement innit would hurt (your caution in last year's muffler vid)-prolly _improve_ the flavor! You have some great ideas. AND an admirable attitude with snarky nay-sayers. Kudos to you! Edit: Howcome you've got 1-1/2 minutes of black screen, then an additional 20 seconds of vid promos over black screen?

[@woodworkingyoutube]

I dont want to think about all of the stuff I have probably had in my coffee. Hmm, there should not be any black screen, I will look tomorrow. Thanks for watching.

[@woodworkingyoutube]

Yup you were correct some how a 1 1/2 minutes of black video was added to the end. I went in and edited this morning, thanks for the heads up.

[@fredscott413]

no cup holder.

[@carlos1000rr]

1:40 minutes to get to the point.

[@woodworkingyoutube]

Thanks for watching.

[@fredscott413]

it does have a cup holder,shut my mouth.

[@denniscasey4967]

❤❤❤. COFFEE,,,🙏🤡. GOOD FOR 10 DESABELLS