Ultimate Landlord Hack - Tenants Can’t Complain About Heat Ever Again!

[@BurcuSevgul]

Your team always goes above and beyond. Customer for life here!

[@atlasfueloilinc.2421]

Hey I caught the t-stat for sensor , hard one for most installers to catch. Also I didn’t see a lockbox installed over sensor, the tenants will place sensor in the refrigerator and get all the heat they want , please video any repeat calls on those thermostats , pro 8000 are the best thermostats but not always landlord friendly. Getting better at being an armchair mechanic. Great video

[@carmencristantiello5176]

or if the thermostat is in a lock box the tenant will put an ice pack to cool the sensor so the tenant is always one step ahead.

[@MuratMehmet-v6r]

Watching your HVAC videos helped me fix my own AC. Thank you!

[@SeckinHaci-l6i]

Flawless repair job 👌

[@stephanc9288]

Complaining about the heat. but the 2nd floor tenant still has a window AC unit in their window lol

[@nikosniko7092]

I always see that!!!

[@bobwhammer4237]

A friend of mine has to run their heat almost non-stop because he refuses to remove 4 very poorly installed air conditioners from the windows. When I'm over there you can feel the draft coming thru. I've offered to help remove the AC's in the off season to no avail.

[@drewstaf2955]

This is so common it’s not even funny. An always the tenants that don’t pay for their own fuel.

[@Daniel.Rodrigo-05Law]

@@drewstaf2955 actually the ones that don't pay for fuel is because it is part of the rent.

[@TC_Tris]

That's great option to have for landlords, great idea to solve his problem

[@CLAIRBryant-w4p]

Your advice on maintenance has saved me so much money over the years!

[@Tanneritefilledfido]

1 cycle per hour is wild. I always put at least 6 cus poorly insulated spaces need more cycles

[@EmreFunda-c1w]

Your fully stocked trucks are a lifesaver for emergency repairs 🚚💨

[@PAULAtkins-j9i]

Mikey Pipes, you’re not just fixing pipes; you’re fixing stress!

[@johnstraley9057]

Attention to detail does not go un-noticed while executing a well thought out plan. And educational at that!

[@JohnDavid-u8b]

Thermostat placement has a lot to do with comfort. Honeywell also has a portable remote control, with temperature sensor, allowing temperature measurement to occur wherever it is placed. With the remote sensor being placed higher on the wall, than the original controlling t-stat, the room temperature is now possibly cooler, while at the same setpoint, as the warm air rises and satisfies the thermostat set-point quicker, as the air higher in the room is warmer.

[@Daniel.Rodrigo-05Law]

They don't want the remote with the built in thermostat because they don't want the tenant to change the temp only the landlord.

[@johnnyprotalk3352]

I LIKE THIS IDEA. YOUR VIDEOS ARE ALWAYS GREAT. IM A FAN

[@fab1558]

I would have used the existing thermostat wires to connect to a wired sensor instead. No batteries.

[@starlite528]

I think he was going for 'keep the existing thermostat so the resident is clueless that it's just a decoy'

[@atlasfueloilinc.2421]

@@starlite528 correct but without a lock box , tenants will pop off the sensor and place it on the window sill outside or the refrigerator and heat as much as they want. Maybe Long Island tenants are not as internet savoy as bronx tenants.

[@spaceboy7192]

Remember the accustat thermostats with the mercury bulbs you would change out for desired temperature? Simple and effective

[@scotsmanofnewengland7713]

Those type had a problem with dust particles landing on the bulb there fore would weigh down the bulb and give a false setting. Learned that from an old timer.

[@spaceboy7192]

​@@scotsmanofnewengland7713Your old timer must of had one hell of a dirty house. Your not even in the same ballpark. Your thinking of the T87 stat. Accustats were mostly use in commercial application and meant to be tamper proof. Google it

[@DIEGORitchie-h4c]

Thank you for demystifying home repairs for us average folks!

[@PipeDoctor]

You're welcome!

[@sknight0391]

Not only did I enjoy the video, I thoroughly enjoyed the video. It was like a video extravaganza!!! Good work Mikey. 😎👍

[@atlasfueloilinc.2421]

Sensors are accessible to the tenants, most like that feature. You will be back !

[@GoogleMe-en9sg]

Batteries in a tenants thermostat (or sensor) is a problem waiting to happen. Either the tenant breaks the device trying to change batteries or the landlord is on vacation when the batteries go out. Best to wire in a thermostat or use a non-powered one.

[@richarddesimone960]

Can i use the tempture probes on a regular boiler? Or just those outside central air units?

[@scottmaz4063]

Then the tenants puts frozen bags of peas ice cubes ect. To drop the temp. 😂😂😂

[@matthewwesthoff6100]

I’m confused, so the tenants in the first floor and second floor can’t control the temperature? Could you have done the Vision Pro 8000 with two interface modules? Enjoyed the video!

[@jaymarking7854]

The landloard wants to control the heat, otherwise the tenants will crank the heat up high and run up the gas bill

[@mikemaccracken3112]

Nice setup. My local energy supplier paid for two Emerson Sensi ST 25 thermostats and they are decent. No C wire required if you use batteries and I like that I can control the thermostats via app.

[@woodystokes1543]

Nice work man 😊

[@T.MacThePlumber-ny5dj]

That was awesome idea ! love it !

[@PipeDoctor]

Thank you! 😊

[@starlite528]

I guess we'll see how long it will be before they tamper with the wireless sensors. what do those thermostats do when they lose signal from the sensors? Do those thermostats have wifi or zigbee or z-wave? Is there a phone app or PC software that you can push the config to the stats without going through all those menus?

[@JWM1800]

I like that equipment is it app controlled as well

[@johnnyprotalk3352]

JUST A QUESTION COULD YOU HAVE USED THE EXISTING TSTAT WIRES TO HARD WIRE THE SENSORS. ASKING BECAUSE SOMETIMES WIRELESS STUFF DOESNT CONNECT IN SOME SITUATIONS DEPENDING WHAT SIGNAL HAS TO TRAVEL THRU

[@jhamm15]

You can also install the actual 8000 tstats on each floor and set the max heat set point on the 8000’s (if you wanted tenants to have some control). You can get the internet gateway module and then control the tstats with the Honeywell app remotely so if tenants are away, etc you can turn down/off the heat/AC. There’s also the REM5000R1001, which is a cute little table remote that can toggle between the floors in case the internet goes out since it pairs directly to the tstats. I’ve never had a tenant go into the installer setup menu (you need the 4 digit code) and tamper with the max heat set point.

[@PipeDoctor]

That’s great advice, I’ll give it a try!

[@mwolrich]

@@PipeDoctorif you do move the thermostats to each unit, the remote RF sensor can be put outside, and used for “anticipation” by the 8000’s, that makes it work a little quicker when there’s a sudden temperature drop

[@eDoc2020]

Isn't the installer password just the date code? If you have access to an Internet search engine it's easy to learn this.

[@jhamm15]

@ shhhh, you ruined the secret!

[@EvetteCochran]

Fixed it perfectly, thanks!

[@JOHNNIEFrazer]

Pipe Doctor is redefining customer service. Always on time and prepared!

[@scotsmanofnewengland7713]

I ran into a guy who owned a 2 family two story house. What he did was when remodeling was run the hot air duct thru the wall to the second floor thru a closet wall. During the winter he would open the closet door open the vent to the ductwork and get free heat from the second floor tenant. Talk about being a cheapskate and wonder if it was illegal ?

[@PipeDoctor]

Well, that’s just not right.

[@mwolrich]

I have Honeywell Redlink thermostats on my Mitsubishi Air Sourced Heat pump, 4 zones, linked to the Redlink Gateway connected to the internet.. you can adjust them remotely.. another upgrade you could suggest is setup the Redlink gateway for him, then if he’s away, he can check on the status of the 2 floors (or adjust), probably not needed in this situation, just a piece of mind bonus for the landlord, because when the tenants call, he can fire up his smartphone from anywhere, and say “I see your temperature is 72F” 😬

[@DerrickCook-m6n]

I have ecobee. You can read the current temp from your phone as long as you have wifi. You can also set temp. The owner could do all from his or her phone.

[@mickwolf1077]

so if the tenants want heat and use their thermostats nothing will happen until the landlord turns it on in the basement? what if they want half the heat. or is the wireless solution only serving as a maximum temperature limit?

[@Daniel.Rodrigo-05Law]

It is set at max 70 which aint that warm in NY winters. If they get to hot open the window a crack

[@dmitrynetes3102]

Great work Mike!

[@mikehouser5430]

Great install

[@jackl9922]

I’ve fooled those before - a baggie of ice.

[@stevencossaboon3237]

Nice work Mike.

[@FeyzaRezan-j6f]

Quality work every time 💯

[@greghughes9736]

Nice

[@PipeDoctor]

Appreciate it!

[@20NewJourney23]

Your tenants can complain about the cold room/apartment if they buy Bluetooth thermometers and place them in the rooms. It will prove the furnace or A/C isn't working properly (to what they have it set to). You are gaslighting your tenants. It's disturbing behavior for an adult to be engaging in. If you don't want your tenants to have heating/cooling above/below a certain temperature you need to put it into the lease and explain that the thermostat is rigged in that way. People with certain health conditions need to be aware that they will not be able to be comfortable in your rentals because of your practices.

[@greekmaster1001]

I like that solution

[@Losi5t20]

Just pop it off put it in the refrigerator the heat will turn on nice and toasty

[@GrammarPoliceInvestigations]

It won’t take long for the tenants to figure that one out.

[@jacojanks5985]

Drywall anchors when mounted the sensor? When you have to replace the battery’s every year you are going to rip that thing off the wall. The you had hard wires up to the zones why not eliminate the need to replace batteries? Removing the stat And the confusion as to what is actually controlling the zone.

[@starlite528]

The only confusion is for the tenant, and that is by design. They're not supposed to be changing it.

[@jacojanks5985]

@@starlite528 🤔 landlord must be paying the gas bill then.

[@richroj]

very good Mike 👍

[@josephpuchel6497]

Hey established what was needed and getting the job done. ✅

[@dimaslespier2688]

Mikey pipes. By disabling the alert display function. When the batteries go dead on the remote sensors the thermostat will not alert the end user.

[@kamechanicalhvac2891]

Mike!!!!!! Great work brother 👍 . I would of definitely ordered the wired sensor the battery likes to play games sometimes . Installed 3 of these wireless sensors went back to that customer home 6 times already gave up and freely purchased the wire one's for the family lol . Gave up on the stupid battery games . But hopefully you don't go through that like I did 🙏🙏🙏🙏 happy New year brother many blessings for the new year

[@Bigbacon]

so the tenants have no control over the temp?

[@sunil1979dp]

Can this set up work for steam heating

[@starlite528]

ah so he went with the Honeywell's :D

[@ryandann9362]

Couldn't the tenet just take the little wifi thermometer off the wall and put it in their fridge or outside their window to trick the unit into kicking on?

[@MikeSeris]

I replaced the pressuretrol now the heater shuts off randomly and I have to hit the reset button on the pressuretrol for it to run again. It won’t ignite unless I hit the reset button on the Honeywell L4079B1033. Any help will be greatly appreciated

[@throttlebottle5906]

you do realize that's a high limit safety cutoff control right? it's not meant to cycle a boiler on/off maintaining pressure and will always need manual reset if it opens. if that's the case, you need a professional and to not be tinkering with a steam boiler, before you possibly harm yourself or someone. not meaning to be harsh sounding, but steam is nothing to play around with.

[@chuckq54]

Sweet Mikey! 👍👍🏆🏆

[@TheMrBrandonlewis]

So, now the tenants can’t control temperature at all?

[@GOPRepubliklan]

YEP! JUST THE WAY IT SHOULD BE

[@TheMrBrandonlewis]

@ lol good thing its wireless! just wait till they stick that thing in the refrigerator!

[@throttlebottle5906]

sure they can, call/text and knock on the the landlords door at all hours. 🤪

[@themovecrew7201]

Pretty cool, but what if they put something cool around the sensor like a bag of ice or blow a fan on it or something to fool the sensor to thinking it’s colder? If they messed around like they did previously breaking into box why wouldn’t they try something else. I like idea but there’s can always be a way around if they wanted to. Keep up the great work buddy, love the vids!

[@throttlebottle5906]

just cover it in a damp almost dripping towel/wash cloth.....

[@themovecrew7201]

@ yep. I like the other comment about taking off wall n putting in fridge/freezer. Not sure this was solution. Mighta been better if like other comments to hardwire in that way a lot harder to take off

[@throttlebottle5906]

@@themovecrew7201 thy could also just put it on a window sill or the floor against an exterior wall, inside kitchen cabinets that are on exterior walls. by the entrance doors/fire escapes. they're all many degrees cooler or outright cold. 🤣 been in construction for many years so I know where all the cool/colder spots are lurking.

[@OnusofStrife]

Didn't they have poor flow or something to the second floor?

[@PipeDoctor]

nope.

[@snownek-6236]

that one heat call per hours may not be a good selection. my house dose about 4 per hour but its not insulated well and it below zero most all winter.

[@PipeDoctor]

You're right, that was just for demonstration purposes.

[@michaelsannuti270]

I installed the same set up in an apartment building. And the tenant stole the sensor when they moved 🤦‍♂️

[@BoilerMaker56]

I put a lot of these vision pros in. I absolutely love them. Funny thing is Honeywell told me that I shouldn’t put the Vision Pro thermostats any closer than 6 feet away from each other. I did them anyway and never had an issue. They say the sensor sometimes get confused. I’m not sure if this is an issue that’s been corrected, but I love the way they work. Good job on that Mike.

[@PipeDoctor]

That’s interesting, I’ve never heard that one before.

[@starlite528]

I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't understand and thought you wanted to put the sensor right next to the thermostat.

[@jaymarking7854]

I see you did Cycle per hour(CPH) at 1 on the first floor, and 3CPH on the 2nd. Guess you didn't read the manual?? 1 is for steam heat, 2 is for hot water heat, and 3 HE forcced air and 5 for old forced air. . I can see you getting a call back on 1CPH!

[@jeffreyplumber1975]

service calls aint free he he

[@mobettaspice]

I think it would of been best if they didn’t know where the new temperature sensor was located. Now it could be tampered with.

[@PipeDoctor]

Nahh

[@bills6946]

Did you set thermostat sensor to control yes? Should be NO. THE REMOTE WILL CONTROL THE TEMPERATURE. Cycles per hour 1 Should be 3 or 5.

[@chrishorne2740]

And you hope the 2nd floor doesn't toss it into the refrigerator in the mornings...

[@jerrylockhart3069]

Which one of those has priority neither?😅

[@nickc6399]

One cycle per hour? That’s going to be an issue

[@MoonRambo702]

That’s what I came to comment. Callback in the making. Tenant gonna find out the other floor got 3😂

[@tekjunkie28]

I just max cycles for everything. Is there any situations where you want less cycles for heating?

[@nickc6399]

Over sized equipment

[@fab1558]

Mike, give me the credit. I told you on the last video the 8000 comes wifi. 😅

[@greekmaster1001]

You win a banana

[@spaceboy7192]

OK...should have told him to use the original thermostat wire and install a wired sensor. Won't have to mess around with dead batteries...😮

[@CaptainW1nky]

70 is cold for winter lol, glad I don't rent... I wouldn't pay

[@20NewJourney23]

I agree. It depends on the person whether 70 is fine or if it's too cold. Some people have health conditions which can cause problems for the temperature to be at or near 70 degrees in the winter 70 degrees is the minimum temperature I can handle but I normally have my thermostat set to 75 year round. That five degrees really makes a difference in keeping my hands and feet safely temperature controlled. I have Raynaud's Phenomenon which is a blood flow problem caused by autonomic nervous system dysfunction. My central nervous system tricks my feet and hands into shrinking the blood vessels and preventing proper blood flow when the temperature is near 70 degrees (or lower). My hands and feet turn white or blue depending on how bad the blood flow is restricted. The only protection I have for my feet and hands is warming them up to 75+ degrees. People have lost their hands or feet in non-freezing temperatures because of this health problem. I haven't (yet) but I've been able to control the temperature of my home on my own.

[@ChrisTopher284765490]

Done Deal on that one. Happy New Year Mike !

[@atlasfueloilinc.2421]

Sensors are accessible to the tenant, most tenants like that feature

[@tedlahm5740]

and who will change the battery EACH YEAR on the tenant floors? Knowing, it will not be done.

[@signal12hvac]

you set tstat to read temps never mind you caught it

[@sircampbell1249]

Should have 3 zones..... one for each floor

[@TheReduxGB]

He did say he would be back to make the basement a third zone

[@craig1611]

Should have used wired sensors. Batteries suck

[@RobertDeFreitas-q5r]

you set the thermostat to use its internal temp sensor. you do realize that dont you?

[@Vigilante-k4q]

You sound like Tony soprano

[@tedlahm5740]

“Let’s take this outside.”. please

[@throttlebottle5906]

woah, 1 cycle per hour is far too low, for a drafty old place. it will end up yo-yo swinging and them still complaining, which they likely will anyway, not being able to set it at what they feel comfortable.

[@PipeDoctor]

It’s a test

[@speedy4829]

Why leave the thermostats in the apartment? Just going to create more drama…cranking and playing with them while not hitting any crazy set points used above 70. Should have just eliminated the apt thermostats, recycle the existing wire to use direct wire sensors vs batteries and tell the tenants to suck it. Most restrictive laws require 68….LL is providing 70.

[@peter-pg5yc]

why rent when scumbag landlord prevents you from heating comfort Cheap arse landlord needs seperate meters and systems for the renters. if not renters go some where else. with rents like they are we demand control not scummy landlords. Plus landlords set up a proper rental with seperate meters etc, easy done. This will surly piss off tennants..

[@bobshanery5152]

Rent is up due to Government and monopolies who control said government. People seem to ignore this.

[@bobwhammer4237]

Landlords rent out space to make money; they're not a public service to provide you with comfort so that u can walk around in your undies in the winter. We all know that when heat and electric is included, renters abuse it. Get your own damn house and run the thermostat to 75 in the winter. Let us know what your heating bills are. Maybe you're expecting the "gov" to help u?

[@JimmydaGooch]

​@@bobwhammer4237 They only will run the thermostat that high when they ain't paying the bill lol

[@SlayerDork]

@@bobshanery5152 Don't forget the property tax cost that the landlords just pass on to the tenants.

[@nxsecuresucks]

this is why renters want out of renting.. but can't buy a house do to the scam house market. Houses DO NOT INCREASE IN VALUE! this is a scam. regardless... the tenants should have full control over their own heat but yes at their cost when possible.. I could soooo easily see a tenant putting this in a fridge or by a window to trick the system into heating. hahahahaha.

[@joshuabest100]

You should have put the sensor in a lock box the tenant just gunna put the sensor outside and have infinite heat

[@jerrylockhart3069]

There in the hallways? Are there any heat in the hallways since normally the perimeter of the house is on the hydraulic water feed loop unless the hallways are on the edge?😅❤🤔😎

[@patram4880]

Too complicated you can keep it

[@PipeDoctor]

Easy

[@throttlebottle5906]

I have removed more of that junk, than I have ever installed. over complicated, failures, they tend to randomly reset, lose sensor connectivity(RF noisy environments) which is pretty much every home and device people use now.

[@kens.3729]

Probably a Tenant who likes it Hot Indoors and Opens Windows to get Comfortable. 🤪👎

[@charlespipitone2324]

Now, if you understood how system 2000 worked as good as these Honeywell, You will agree how good the system 2000 systems are. Lmmfao

[@ricktodessa3562]

If you're renting an apartment you should be allowed to set your thermostat at any temperature you desire you're renting it it's your home the landlord has no right to set your heating temperature that's b******* the landlord should be put in jail

[@PipeDoctor]

You must be a “have not” Have not a fucking thing positive to say in life.

[@TheRAMBO9191]

🥃👍🏻

[@JAYJAYJAY53]

Get new tenants

[@lonewolf1401]

landlord could use that for nefarious reasons also... slumlords

[@steveblake8766]

508th thumbs up

[@fred-qy4lo]

Nice.😀

[@PlymouthVT]

Should have brought the thermostat wire sheath all the way under that plate instead you got a butch'ed up sheath before it enters the base of the plate. Looks like you could have drilled a hole and brought it in from behind the plate. And they make better staples than those big ugly ones you use.

[@t.a.servicehvact.a.service3189]

heating fašizmus

[@charlespipitone2324]

Now, if you understood how system 2000 worked as good as these Honeywell, You will agree how good the system 2000 systems are. Lmmfao