Ultimate Marhall Sim Shootout! TC Jims 800 Vs Joyo British Sound

[@martingalicia36695]

Impressed with the Joyo. Thanks!!

[@BudgetPedalChap]

Aye, it does very well 👍

[@jaketachermusic954]

It might be my headphones, or just my preference, but I liked the Joyo. I’d love to hear the fender sims shoot out.

[@BudgetPedalChap]

I'll see what I can do. I don't have the TC sim, but I do know someone who does 👍

[@justinpalmer6098]

The Joyos have internal cab sims too. I have the American and British on my board with a Boss line switcher. Fender cleans and Marshal dirt, running the effects with a Line 6 HX Effects. I've also got a Plumes and Fuzz Face before everything. I can make all the sounds. This board sees the stage a few times a month and sounds superb going directly to the board via DI box.

[@BudgetPedalChap]

They do indeed, they're not voiced particularly well as many chose to mod it to bypass the internal sim and run an external cab sim instead. Sounds like you've got a great little set up to get the best out of it though, I'm digging the plumes and fuzz face pairing too. I bet that sounds killer 👍

[@mspr100]

very interesting set-up !

[@mspr100]

Thanks for this interesting comparison.I AB'd them too. I like the TC better for clean, probably because of the oustanding CAB sim. It is much more clear. With the other Joyo's ; 'American Sound' and the 'Acetone', the difference in clarity compared to the digital amp sims is not so big as with the ''British sound compared to the JCM800. With the '''British sound the "cab simulation eq" is more nasal for the cleans. I am a big fan of those Truetone Harley Bentons/Joyo's. They all sound better to me with dirt then all the most recent digital amp sims I tried. And for the price... This JCM800 is a much fun to play and still okay pricewise. I really like it. Kind of an underdog ampsim for cleans.

[@BudgetPedalChap]

@@mspr100 yeah, the joyo ones have a kind of pleasant compressed quality to them that sounds better driven. I think there is definitely space in the market for both, but the joyo are incredible value for money too.

[@randoman81]

They both sound great

[@BudgetPedalChap]

Yup, I'd be happy to use either 👍

[@CZPavel-c1p]

Very good comparison, could have been a bit longer. The price difference is obvious, but I wouldn't dismiss the Joyo brand in any way, I like it, especially the R series. But this older pedal is also good, I have that too. Thanks for the video and I look forward to the next one. Pavel CZ.

[@BudgetPedalChap]

The Vs series has always been short videos, mainly because both already have full length videos. I think joyo do make some great stuff and these amp sim pedals are great 👍

[@CZPavel-c1p]

@@BudgetPedalChap I'm sorry, unfortunately I didn't know the shortened version mentioned on YT. My fault. Beautiful Friday evening. Hi Pavel CZ

[@jgmopar]

Both sounded good I own the Jims 800. I love it.

[@BudgetPedalChap]

Aye, I agree. I'd use both happily 👍

[@jgmopar]

@@BudgetPedalChap After seeing this I will probably get the Joyo, Dang these KZbin videos. making me spend money.

[@ZEGO24x]

This needed to be explored further - You've only JUST scraped the surface of what both of these pedals can do!

[@BudgetPedalChap]

Hi, this is the point of this show. A quick snapshot of a pedal versus another, I have done both pedals in depth where we look into each control and feature for both of these pedals so definitely do check those out 👍

[@vicentecarneiro4985]

Looking forward to this

[@BudgetPedalChap]

It's very interesting. I'll be curious to see which everyone prefers 👍

[@bomdelux]

Both are really impressive 👍

[@BudgetPedalChap]

Yeah, that's a great point. Both are great options

[@bengaren]

Sounds like a single coil pickup. Would be interested in a comparrison using humbuckers to really get a feel for the hot, overdriven Marshall sound.

[@BudgetPedalChap]

It is indeed using single coils. I use the same guitar for everything so the pedal is the only thing that changes 👍

[@spacepodi]

Over KZbin, the sound difference isn’t massive, but the TC looks significantly more professional on a pedalboard. On a budget board though, there’s no reason not to get the quarter price option. I’ve got the American sound version on my board at home and it is way better than my orange micro terror would be on its own, which I now use as a power amp only (plugs into fx return at the back). Since it comes out of the orange cab, it doesn’t need an IR sim.

[@BudgetPedalChap]

Yeah, that's fair. The joyo pedals are really great at putting in front of an amp to give them a different amp flavour too. I used to run the American sound on the clean channel of a blackstar amp to make it more fendery and it worked amazingly. Cheers for the comment 👍

[@AuntJoey]

I'm sitting at my desk waiting for my American sound to come in to put in my effects loop with my orange micro dark there that I've been swapping tubes around in. One of us one of us.

[@jfiery]

The Joyo more than held its own.

[@BudgetPedalChap]

Totally 👍 I don't think you'd be unhappy with either

[@ThorOskarsson]

Nice comparison ! But doesnt the joyo already have a built in ir ?

[@BudgetPedalChap]

Very well spotted. Though they say it does, I often find the joyo amp sims just sound a lot better when you run them with an amp sim as the built in one sounds a bit weak and thin 👍

[@riangarianga]

For my taste I think the JIMS 800 wins, at least based on what I just listened to. I loved that high end that the Joyo doesn't seem to have. Maybe I'm wrong, was it perhaps due to slightly different settings? However, I'm not dismissing the Joyo at all, it's a perfectly capable machine that holds its own, it works really well, and nobody would notice or care that you're using it. Price-wise it's the clear winner.

[@BudgetPedalChap]

The settings were at a very neutral setting for both, I think if you really wanted to then you could get a more trebly sound from the joyo and like wise a more mid focused sound from the TC. I think the real take away is that either is a good choice and suitable for different budgets 👍

[@riangarianga]

@@BudgetPedalChap I absolutely agree. We're living in the Golden Age of guitar gear.

[@jbh219]

Im hearing that the Jims has a bit of boost on the higher frequencies. That sounds better on the low gain comparison but doesn't sound as nice as gain goes up. At that point its level pegging

[@BudgetPedalChap]

Aye, I would definitely roll back that high in the gainer examples. The great thing about the TC is that you can set all the settings completely different for both channels and the unit will remember it when you switch between them. There is no denying the joyo is holding it's own against this unit which is probably £100 more expensive though

[@JasonWharton82]

Actually think I preferred the Joyo 😱

[@BudgetPedalChap]

It's ok to prefer the joyo, it's a great pedal 👍

[@Sykirobme]

The Joyo is fine but the TC has a bit more shimmer...at my current budget I'm happy with the Joyo sims, but if I was gigging regularly again or was making better money, I'd grab the TC.

[@BudgetPedalChap]

Aye, that's a fair assessment. The joyo is fab considering the price 👍

[@GunnarLoeb]

I think the Jims 800 sounds quite much better but the Joyo is a fun pedal for the price

[@BudgetPedalChap]

Yeah, the jims sound a bit more amp like, but the joyo is great fun for sure

[@oozeman23]

The only thing the joyo is missing is a decent Cab sim... it's actually astounding how close they are tonewise, but the joyo has no real cab sim, so it sounds or reacts more like a pedal... Pro Tip ... Put the Nux Solid Studio Power Amp & Microphone & Cabinet Sim after the Joyos ( no matter British, American, AC Tone , California or Oxford ) ... You will knock everything out of the park ... Promise !!!

[@BudgetPedalChap]

This example is running through a cab sim, I used the same cab sim for both to keep it fair. The joyo is great for the price, I really like their cab sim range 👍

[@mkrj2576]

Pretty sure this Joyo series has a cab sim built in. Running it through another cab sim I think dulls the sound?

[@BudgetPedalChap]

@@mkrj2576 they say it does, but it almost always sounds better when you run an external cab sim. My full demo of the pedal explorers it with and without the external cab sim 👍

[@sennasix]

the jims have a cabsim or not?

[@BudgetPedalChap]

Yes, it has 2 outputs - one with and one without 👍

[@sennasix]

@@BudgetPedalChap i dont understand, can u help me? my signal chain is Reverb < Jims 800 < Tube screamer is that right? i dont need cabsim pedal anymore?

[@BudgetPedalChap]

@@sennasix what is that all going into? If you are going into the front end of an amp, no cab sim needed. If you are going into a desk or daw, you'll need the cab sim out. If you already have a cab sim pedal, you could stick that on the non cab sim out for a coffee of cab or run them both for a wide stereo sound

[@jcwoodstl]

The jims sounds much more like the amp while the joyo sounds like an overdrive pedal

[@BudgetPedalChap]

I think that's a fair statement, you're spot on there

[@vitorcx1989]

Theres a point: joyo is much a plexi than a jcm.

[@bikeman1x11]

jims is 4X the price but not 4X better

[@BudgetPedalChap]

It depends what you need. The channel switching and boost are great features and the option for cab sim or direct. You could buy 4 of them though 😂😂

[@DanielDavis730]

Real amps

[@BudgetPedalChap]

@@DanielDavis730 they're good too