Ultimate Psytrance Grid Hack: GridFather by Altar of Wisdom (Review)

[@AltarofWisdom]

Thanks for this thorough review, yeah no need to go through all the params as long as you achieve something ;-) . For DAWs setup there is a full 40 pages PDF file provided with the software where you can pretty much set it up in most DAWs: FL, Logic, Studio, Cubase at least are covered

[@psykick_music]

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[@DaddaPsy]

Nice walkthrough of the Gridfather! To clarify it's AutoPlay and AutoGrid in one plugin while in Ableton Live they act as two separate devices. The Acolyte is the VST version of AutoPlay. Also regarding the probabilities it's time based actually afaik. So if you have 25% 1/16th, 50% 1/8th and 25% 1/4th, it's going to translate that into time on whatever the seed is chosen within the plugin. So if a phrase with whatever seed you get is 16 bars, 25% of the time for that seed will be 1/16 notes, 50% of the time will be 1/8th and 25% of the time will be 1/4th. If Altar of Wisdom see's this he might give a better explanation of it :)

[@psykick_music]

Lol yeah I already feel like I am making calculations to go to space 😅 when you say 'seed', what does that translate to? I am not sure if the VST plugin have that term in the jargon.

[@DaddaPsy]

@@psykick_music A seed is referring to the starting point in generating random numbers, it specifies the start point when a computer generates a random number sequence. In the M4L versions you can "freeze" the random engine and thus know which seed is causing this particular pattern. With the last update to his M4L devices, he shares which seed the plugin is currently using and this enables the user to save the random seed number it has generated in case we like that specific pattern and want it looping. It's useful for saving certain seeds as presets or simply recycle the pattern a bit further. It's really really handy because if you freeze the random engine, you can play and tweak the parameters within that specific seed once it's "frozen" For example automating the Note probability over time which will give the effect of the pattern emerging before it reaches 100% note prob. Not sure if it's implemented into The Gridfather. IIRC it's due to the limitations of the framework he's developing it in. Though you can save the seed in Acolyte plugin. So you get controlled chaos =D

[@AltarofWisdom]

@@DaddaPsy Yeah that's it for the note length probas you nailed it my man lol. For the phrases, I used that term as it's as in a conversation, think of the notes as words, and the phrases as... sentences. So one given channel will tell a phrase of several words before passing to the next one, and the min and max length of each phrase are set downright. I actually cannot add the engine freeze in the Gridfather unless I remove for example one of the note lengths at least and one channel, I'm currently limited to 48 params total by the framework, the devs of it don't have time to upgrade (it's the guys from BlueCat Audio) and switching to JUCE, which is a full professional one is really a big deal :(

[@psykick_music]

@@AltarofWisdom I guess this gives me a good reason to grab a copy of Acolyte as well :)

[@AltarofWisdom]

@@psykick_music I promise it's not on purpose lool

[@steelssystem]

Great! Highly recommend it.

[@psykick_music]

Thanks for the support!

[@steelssystem]

@@psykick_music I got the plugin before it was released :) lucky enough to be able to help with manual on Studio One

[@RussianArmsVDV]

Why bitwig, or cubase?

[@DaKingof]

Are you fully switched to BW now?

[@psykick_music]

Yes, I use it as the sole DAW at the moment. I had used Ableton before I was even using Cubase, so switching to Bitwig was not as hard as I thought.