Ultimate Quest Link Cable Settings // ULTRA Graphics EA WRC

[@clouds5]

Thanks a lot for sharing your settings! I'm gonna try some of yours, as I have a similar system. I will definitely try using ASW forced on and see how it feels for me. I think this is key and it didn't occur to me to use it. From what I've heard modern UnrealEngine struggles a lot with high framerates and especially keeping up with frametimes (this is what causes sudden dips and stutters). Even in 2d mode everything is super smooth for me as long as I lock it to 60fps. But trying to achieve locked 120hz my monitor is set to is near impossible no matter what the settings are... Which is exactly why I can't play this game in VR so far. Even with ultra low settings and scaling down resolution it has issues staying at 90fps and at that point even Richard Burns Rally looks better :D The problem with WRC in VR for me though was not only the performance. Because of the forced temporal AA the game looks blurry, smeary and has ghosting no matter what you do (I even notice this without VR!). DLSS is great but it is also a "temporal" solution and it also introduces some amount of blur/ghosting... With ASW, TAA and DLSS we need three layers of temporal tricks to get this game to play reasonably :D So in the end, no matter what you do it won't look sharp. There are videos out there that explain it well but there is a reason why the TAA only goes to "low" and not off in WRC. If I understand correctly modern UE games are basically built with TAA from the ground up and they need a certain amount of TAA to function without bugs (keep in mind many studios make modifications to UE so this is not an issue in every UE game). And I think you can see some of that if you turn DLSS off and TAA to low. It's the closest to a sharp VR visual you can get but the vegetation is a complete shimmery mess, even with high resolutions. So yeah it's probably going to require additional coding, if they really wanna make it a solid VR experience and I think it's a real shame. Even in Dirt Rally 2.0 VR was basically a mod made by a different studios and it worked ok but it clearly wasn't optimized for VR and requires hardware that wasn't available when the game released to run well. So come to think that VR was even less of a focus 4 years later on the next game even though the Quest headsets sold really well... It's very disappointing.

[@MacInVR]

Great post, I've pinned it, thanks 😊

[@clouds5]

@@MacInVR

[@x1s1x]

@@clouds5 This game looks way better using Virtual Desktop and VDXR, you just need to add "-force -dx11" to the games launch settings. I have a quest 3 connected to a PrismXR Puppis S1 Specialized Router at 2,401 Mbps. This is the way.

[@Woopass90]

Great vid. Setting bitrate to 940 can add some latency however so I tend to go with around 700. That is the sweet spot. Love how your vid is direct and to the point.

[@MacInVR]

Thanks for the tip, will try that 🤩

[@dannyjones296]

I seem to spend more time in setting for VR games than actually playing them. Would you recommend those Nvidia settings when using Virtual Desktop?

[@MacInVR]

Yes, definitely. Those settings are beneficial for all VR games 😉

[@Carin7157]

great video, helped me a lot, now its really playable

[@AustenValentine]

This tutorial is perfect. Thank you!

[@MacInVR]

Awww....thanks mate 👌

[@eugenecia9424]

I'm going to try it out tomorrow on my PSVR2 on my computer, nice and without compression.

[@dorothydavis9280]

Thought psvr2 wasn't coming out till the 7th

[@eugenecia9424]

@dorothydavis9280 I already had my PS adapter on Saturday, in the Netherlands. The app can be downloaded on August 6 and is on Steam.

[@x1s1x]

This game looks better using Virtual Desktop and VDXR, you just need to add "-force -dx11" to the games launch settings. My setup is Quest 3 connected to PrismXR Puppis S1 Specialized Router at 2,401 Mbps. Then I have my link cable plugged into the Quest 3 charger and I can play indefinitely.

[@MacInVR]

Thanks for the tip. I will try that as soon as possible 😀

[@Calebanton]

He can play indefinitely with the cable he has because it has the ability to plug a charger into the cable

[@yogiii90er]

It Looks much much better with vdxr thank you !!!! But I have one big problem , my Game crash in the Second Race every time … i didnt have that with link cable , any ideas ? Ty

[@dipdipdip84]

Thanks for the tutorial! I followed all the steps but the game looks a lot more blurry on my headset... Everything that is close looks OK but the road doesn't look like in your footage.

[@Zoveo_]

Great information ℹ️

[@MacInVR]

Thanks 👍

[@linzkirk]

I use my quest 3 for iRacing and other sms, spent a lot of time on these settings. These are very efferent to mine so ill give this a try. Im also looking forward to the pSVR2 PCVR adaptor so I can try a headset without compression and a direct display port.

[@MacInVR]

Can't wait for this to release, 7th August I believe 🤩

[@SethTaylor1]

Did you ever try and did it improve? Same question for the psvr2 😋

[@linzkirk]

@@SethTaylor1 I Did Try it. Much better black levels and colours pop more, I did notice the lack of compression but the headset only runs at 90fps or 120, which I think seemed to give FPS a bit of a hit, Also ran through steam which I think added to it. Ive gone back to quest 3 as the pancake lenses make it a better headset for me, and after trying both I realise the compression is barely noticeable once you dial in ODT. But the PSVR2 does make a good PCVR headset, I wouldn't recommend buying one just for that, but if you have PS5 and a gaming PC it makes sense.

[@SethTaylor1]

@@linzkirk perfect reply thanks, I have a quest 2 and trying to decide between the PSVR2 or Quest 3. I think that's settled it for me. Quest 3 can do so much more as well.

[@KiLDELTA]

perhaps same with what we did on ACC, modifying the engine.ini will make the game run and look better at the same time. Might have to experiment on this game further.

[@MacInVR]

I originally did alter the engine.ini but after V1.9.0 I felt it wasn't necessary 🤔

[@MrBeerscuits]

I can only play this with everything on Low settings and to remove the blurry mess I use TAA, that's the only solution I found, what a terrible mess on VR. Recently went back to DR2.0, wow VR is amazing in there. What a shame.

[@ronm6585]

You da man Vac. Cheers. 😉😊

[@MacInVR]

U da man Von 🤣

[@TheGreatRepeller]

I ordered the Iniu cable on your recommendations and it isnt charging correctly. I can use Link with it but the battery doesn't charge the headset at all. I bought a Kuject MT005 and it keeps everything charged as I assumed the Iniu would. Funny thing is the Iniu looks like a superior cable in every way except that it didn't work, lol. And was a few dollar cheaper.

[@MacInVR]

You have to use your Quest 3 charger, it's the only one that works

[@TheGreatRepeller]

@@MacInVR I was. The cable is bad.

[@AustenValentine]

This tutorial is great. Unfortunately, the Oculus software broke and it can't connect games anymore. The software shows the headset is connected. It tests as having a usb3 connection with a high bitrate. But the headset just shows the black screen with the loading dots and logo. I've tried both the Iniu cable and the official Quest cable. Neither is working anymore. Meta made some great hardware, but the software is a total mess. And the installation "repair" button in the application tells me they know it's bad too.

[@MacInVR]

This is odd, try uninstall/re-install maybe??

[@moosedawgatlantaproductions]

Fantastic!

[@MacInVR]

🤩🤩🤩

[@babit65]

I just bought that cable the other day and I haven't been able to get it to work. I just get the never ending infinity three dot loading screen. Quest 3.

[@MacInVR]

I had this problem but can't remember how I got round it? I think you have to make sure that the link software isn't running on Quest 3, then run the setup using Meta Link software on PC 😉

[@PPekka]

Thanks for the vid. EA WRC is actually Unreal 4 title not 5. I don´t know why so many people still get that wrong.

[@MacInVR]

Probably because I'm a dufus 😂 Thanks for the correction 😉

[@louiejenkins6369]

Silly question, but how did you get your resolution to show as custom?

[@karlallen6055]

Exactly the same for me, just gives me different resolutions

[@buzzfunk]

I have a Q3 and i do not see oculus diagnostics anywhere on my PC???

[@TheSheriff187]

anyone else having problems copy & pasting (In Bite Rate) tried word & notepad but doesnt seem to let me paste?!

[@MacInVR]

Copy then use CTRL V to paste 😉 Sorry, forgot to mention that 😅

[@Cyteez]

But what should you do if you have AMD gpu?

[@MacInVR]

I have no experience with AMD, sorry. Can anybody help us?

[@Mark_Blanes]

Quest 3 here on 4080 super, since the v1.9 update I can no longer get VR to work as there is no option. Anyboody know how to get it running ??

[@MacInVR]

Open steam vr, open the game through the library. It will ask you to launch in vr

[@Mark_Blanes]

@@MacInVR Thanks, since then I have updated to Nvidia 560.81 and it is now working like before the update. I think they may have pushed a small vr update because it now says v1.9_vr_beta whereas before it just said v1.9 when I tried to load it.

[@MacInVR]

I'll double check, thanks for the update 😊

[@sveininge]

tried this and it still seems washed out. the capture you have here seems very good but is just as good in your headset? i have a 4070ti super and ryzen 9850x3d cpu

[@MacInVR]

Yeah, pretty much looks the same. Are you on V1.9.0? If it's still washed out, try the engine.ini file fix (Google EA WRC engine.ini).

[@sveininge]

@@MacInVR yes is the latest one, tried the engine ini file fix but that just chrash the game when loading. not sure if i pasted the right one in. found one at reddit 0.3 beta

[@trevorjlewis]

Im a firm believer in that old saying "it it ain't broke, don't try to fix it" well FFS i saw your video and thought ok maybe thete is an improvement to be had. PC spec, 5600x and rx6900xt on an x570 board. My quest 2 was playing wrc 2023 at 90fps on mostly high and some ultra settings. Just some shimmering on the night stages was annoying. So i followed your steps and its basically fucked up the whole thing. For some reason now only the left side is being mirrored on the PC display, but in the headset i have a good left side image but it is also being partially replicated in the right eye now which is a total fuckup and undriveable. So i put everything back to hiw i had it, including the debug tool, but now after clicking on the vr preference on the pc screen the game dlows to 1fps, yes one fucking fps, its basically doing nothing now, it is unable to continue to load the game. Spent 2 hours trying to sort it. Short of uninstalling the whole Meta suite and started again. Oh and the ASW set at 45? Total bollocks. The performance was diabolical. Ive always had ASW disabled until this tutorial. Not amused in the slightest.

[@MacInVR]

I have no experience with AMD, sorry. If those settings screwed up your game then there must be something else gone awry. They are just settings, like I always say, if it goes wrong, reset to default. Maybe join my discord and ask in there? I know some of my members are AMD evangelists

[@angryhitman6181]

Any idea to why when I use link cable my pc detects it as USB 2 when I only have USB 3 on my pc. Its really messing with performance.?

[@MacInVR]

Could it be your cable? What brand is it?

[@angryhitman6181]

@@MacInVRive tried a few cables now. And even reinstalled software. Use to work fine with usb 3 but now it don't at all. I just don't understand how it's detecting usb 2 when usb 2 don't exist on my motherboard.

[@uncle_fword]

@@angryhitman6181 It's your cable. I've ordered my 6m cable from aliexpress for about $10. Working great. But you have to read comments under the item if it's good or not.

[@AndreS-yc9gb]

@@angryhitman6181 I just purchased an additional USB-C cable and the Quest Link app said I should use USB 3. So it was obvious that I purchased the wrong cable (it was a USB 2 cable). Your cable may be the limiting factor.

[@angryhitman6181]

@@AndreS-yc9gb the cable I been using has been working fine for a long time as USB 3 but now don't. I'm not sure what's goin on but I'm using wireless now I stead but on the meta app it's saying headset has no audio 🙄 I just do t no what is goin on with it lol.

[@gaminginstilllife9429]

i have a a pimax crystal light, 5800x3d and 4080 super, when i try dlss or anything like it i get a wseird graphics glitch where i only see everything in front of me but not the rear. also game crashes.. anyone else getting this... also looks blurry, had to turn down setting to high

[@ricepony33]

Steam VR settings?

[@MacInVR]

Everything on default, let the Meta software and debug tool handle everything else.

[@ricepony33]

@@MacInVR I’m using a PSVR 2

[@desmond3245]

Anyone with a 3070 how's your performance? My bottom line is 72fps at an acceptable resolution that doesnt make the game too pixelated.

[@MacInVR]

I'm on a 4080 but never thought of running at 72fps, I'll give it a go, thanks 😊

[@IvanFamanni]

About openxr?🙏

[@MacInVR]

Don't use it, so I can not comment and pretend to be an expert 😉

[@IvanFamanni]

@@MacInVR 👍

[@zwenkwiel816]

After getting virtual desktop and a decent router (think i got one you suggested) ive never even looked at any of the meta shit....

[@metalceesie219]

virtual desktop is nice,but the compression in the image with big open games is too much.. with the right link cable settings its way less..

[@zwenkwiel816]

@@metalceesie219 I've found virtual desktop's compression to be far better than Meta's link stuff though. though again I haven't used it in years.

[@MacInVR]

VD doesn't like EA WRC for some reason?

[@zwenkwiel816]

@@MacInVR oh if it's just that game I'm not gonna bother. will just stick to dirt 2 when I feel the need to rally (which I rarely do these days)

[@MacInVR]

@zwenkwiel816 Dirt Rally 2.0 runs beautifully in VR. Apparently, they switched to UE5 so they could make much longer stages 😉

[@ChrisJones-sw9il]

Is this better than virtual desktop?

[@MacInVR]

It's better for playing simulators, like sim-racing, flight, or space sims where you're sitting down. I prefer VD for everything else 😉

[@zyguli]

​@@MacInVRwhy do you think it's better?

[@MacInVR]

It's flexible, reliable, frequently updated plus once you've bought it on Meta, it's yours for life 😉

[@SethTaylor1]

EA WRC is built on UE4 not 5

[@MacInVR]

Didn't know that, thanks for the correlation 🤩

[@djhindsight]

Great video… now do No Man’s Sky! That thing is a mess.

[@MacInVR]

I've only played No Man's Sky on PSVR2, and that looks and runs amazingly well 👌

[@steveambrose-y8q]

was this recorded before EA introduced their anti cheat , i havent been able to use VR since that update and many other people appear to have the same problem ,never mind how invasive the software is ,what a waste of money

[@MacInVR]

Before I think, haven't played for a few weeks 🤔

[@ivan-j4l9x]

Who still uses a cable. Doesn't virtual desktop have better compression?

[@cristalumati]

you will never have the same bitrate and latency using wifi, using a cable drops the latency from 40-50ms to 20ms even with higher bitrate

[@robertodolsak3566]

​@@cristalumatiI use link cable and bitrate 750 and never went belove 40ms in simrace games

[@linzkirk]

Most sim racers use a link cable. you cant afford for you batter to run out on a Ranked race.

[@cristalumati]

@@robertodolsak3566 depends on your system, better gpu lower render time and encoding time

[@robertodolsak3566]

@@cristalumati i have rtx 4090 and 7800x3d.

[@simon84uk]

Might be time to dig out that (90 fecking pounds) link cable I was conned into getting at Quest 2 launch....

[@MacInVR]

Haha...it doesn't even keep the Quest 3 charged!! Get the Iniu one, only £17.99 & keeps your Q3 100% charged.

[@simon84uk]

@@MacInVR got one coming tomorrow, curious to try it out for racing sims over wireless, only £15 on sale.

[@MacInVR]

Good choice 👌

[@Mandrake42]

I could never actually go back to a link cable. I used one for the first week of owning my Quest 2 until I got a decent router. Going wireless was an utter revelation, like a night and day difference for how accessible VR became. To use an analogy, it was like I was stuck in a Victorian prison with ball and chain shackled to me and suddenly I was set free. Going back to a link cable would be like going back to that ball and chain. I just couldn't do it. The joy and central attraction of the Quest headsets (I now have the Quest 3) is wireless VR. Gimme a good router and virtual desktop. Id rather not be back in shackles.

[@MacInVR]

All very good points & I do agree mostly BUT for sim-racing & flight Sims (where you are seated) link cable is a good option 👍

[@Mandrake42]

@@MacInVR This is true. I don't play either of those very much so for me personally its not really an issue. For those that love it I do wish there was a way to get that fidelity without a cable. Also I wasn't trying to dis your video or what you are trying to say in it. You have been extremely helpful, especially when I was first getting into VR. I just really find the cables an obstacle :)

[@MacInVR]

No problems mate, glad I could help 👍

[@renstillmann]

One of the main reasons I bought the Quest 3. Pancake lenses, lay down mode and wireless. Did some tests today and it works really well via 6GHz, I got a 6e router the Tplink axe75. I couldn't really get wrc to render nicely without having low fps. Dirt 2 worked more or less out of the box for me. I am sure they will keep improving ea wrc for VR though.

[@MacInVR]

EA WRC is a hot mess currently, probably down to UE5 being very bad at running VR

[@DmAnd11]

Would be great if the game felt smooth on lower refresh rates like other racing games do. Anything under 120hz feels like a stuttery mess. I can watch my performance metrics hold 90fps and it still feels and looks like 45. Doesn't seem to matter if ASW is off, on, forced. Very disappointing