Thank you for the review. Was wondering about the INIU cable so glad to see it works well despite its price.
@simon84uk3 ай бұрын
I bought the £90 official one when I ordered the Q2 on launch day, used it maybe 3 times, before ditching it for Virtual Desktop. Interestingly, been circling back round to them on my Q3 having got back a little into "sim racing" (just wheel at my desk lol). Decided to try out that Iniu one you had on a live stream recently as was £13 at the time I saw it. Works very well, losing zero charge as you highlighted. I should probably run a side-by-side of my own two (Oculus vs Iniu), see if I can spot any visual difference...
@MacInVR3 ай бұрын
It's all down to your PC's USB-C port mate. Have you tried the new Raceroom update? It's mega 😉
@TheNick530126 күн бұрын
did you ever spot and visual dif? or everything was exactly the same in your eyes/opinion?
@MacInVR26 күн бұрын
They all performed exactly the same, as far as I could tell 😉
@bluebell13 ай бұрын
I mostly use desktop but when I don’t, I use the Kiwi. It’s a little heavy because I don’t have the cable management system. Great review. Thanks Mac!
@MacInVR3 ай бұрын
My pleasure mate 😉
@miklos1824 күн бұрын
THANKS MEN! WISH THS CHANNEL GROW!
@MacInVR4 күн бұрын
Thank you 😊
@RGEE19793 ай бұрын
I prefer to go wireless via 6E router (thanks to an earlier video from you). So far, it's done the job perfectly.
@tomc13803 ай бұрын
I also mainly use my Q3 with the official meta link cable for flight/racing sims at 500mbps encoding bitrate. I have a high end i913900k/rtx4090/z790mb and connected to my usb3.2 gen2 type-c port maintains my QPro headset battery at ~80% for like forever and I don't need to attach my Q3 charger to it like powered link cables. Also, the optical cable feels so light and flexible. Given the amount of $'s we spend for good PCVR, the cost of a good cable isn't all that significant imho. A Link cable always produces slightly better distance clarity and 5-8ms less latency than any wireless options. For most other PCVR games I prefer to use my Q3 wireless/wifi6 with either VD or Air Link. With the right settings both wireless options work very well imho. VD has a slight edge with hevc-10bit at 150mbps for reduced compression artifacts. But, Air Link at 200mbps Dynamic always seems to run a little smoother. I can make VD run as smooth by using SSW but this introduces some choppy/wavy artifacts with some games, and I don't like those (Air Link with ASW does the same btw). For wireless PCVR I prefer Air L:ink because it has better overall compatibility and it's easier to switch back and forth from Link. Also, I like to use the Oculus Tray tool because it's easy to create game profiles to control super sampling and ASW modes. Unfortunately, because VD does not have the official Oculus sdk's you cannot use OTT (or finetune with ODT). I just hope that Meta releases a hevc-10bit codec option in the near future. I have asked them to please do this and they say they are looking at introducing this soon (fingers crossed).
@jdogofoz36423 ай бұрын
@@tomc1380 you know you can go higher then 500 yeah? also your the first that agrees with me with using airlink over VD lol
@tomc13803 ай бұрын
@@jdogofoz3642 Ya, I often use 650mbps with msfs2020 for a little better distant clarity, but there's not a lot in it imho. Anything with Link at 450mbps or higher doesn't produce any noticeable compression artifacts. Anything above 700mbps can sometimes cause audio stutters. Higher bitrates, say 960mbps are also doable but seem to increase latency by ~10-15ms. Up to you to decide what works best for you imho. Cheers.
@MacInVR3 ай бұрын
Airlink is really janky for me. I tried it recently and was shocked how bad it was 🤔
@tomc13803 ай бұрын
@@MacInVR Really comes down to your router/wifi setup and ODT/Meta device settings. I have no problem with wireless PCVR using either Air Link or Virtual Desktop. Both wireless systems work very well and it comes down to personal preferences as to which one you like to use. Saying one wireless system is significantly better than the other is nonsense imho. Even Steam Link works pretty well with SteamVR apps.
@tomc13803 ай бұрын
@@jdogofoz3642 Ya, I can use up to 960mbps but I don't see a lot of difference in clarity much above 500mbps with msfs2020. Anything 450 or higher gets rid of compression artifacts, for me anyway. Latency is about 10-15ms higher with 960 compared to 500 and most of this seems to occur above 800mbps. Also, I seem to get some audio stuttering above 700mbps. Simple to copy/paste (or in my case simply using the Oculus tray Tool (OTT) to see which bitrate works best for you.
@Subfightr3 ай бұрын
Wonderful stuff. Unfortunately I purchased a shoddy cable couple months back and I'm kind of stuck with it but it will certainly help many others out. On behalf of everyone else, thank you for this
@MacInVR3 ай бұрын
Only £17.99 for the Iniu? 😉
@adamsteinbacher26293 ай бұрын
I was using the JSAUX link cable which worked perfectly, but with Valve constantly updating and improving Steam Link, I gave the PrismXR Puppis S1 dedicated wireless access point a try and my eyes don't see any compression artifacts or lag whatsoever. I'll be sticking with that setup from now on. The wireless freedom is fantastic, as is Steam Link!
@MacInVR3 ай бұрын
I have the PrismXR to test, and hopefully, get it setup this week 😉
@SledderVR2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video mate!
@MacInVR2 ай бұрын
My pleasure 😉
@mondo50mКүн бұрын
Just ordered the INIU cable.
@MacInVR16 сағат бұрын
That's the one I use 😊
@jestersraven40826 күн бұрын
Have been looking for a Link Cable and this has helped me settle on the Inui one thanks
@MacInVR26 күн бұрын
You're welcome 🤗
@DeconstructingTheGame2 ай бұрын
Curious to know if you noticed any graphical variations with the different cables. Power consumption aside the quality is more important for me. Sometimes I experience pixelation or stutter with my current cable but I have a top spec pc, maybe even overkill.
@ronm65853 ай бұрын
Thanks Mac.
@MacInVR3 ай бұрын
Cheers Ron 🍻
@stevenmelling606812 күн бұрын
Good video straight to the point ,Sub
@MacInVR12 күн бұрын
Thanks mate 😁
@barakoas3 ай бұрын
My 10 eur cable from Aliexpress works flawlessly, giving me 2.8Gbps speed... it just doesnt have the external charger plug. The Virtual desktop + wifi 6e router is quite expensive solution but comfy...
@MacInVR3 ай бұрын
2.8gbps?? Wow!! That even beats the Official Meta Cable 😲
@barakoas3 ай бұрын
@@MacInVR I think the speed is more related to the motherboard tbh...
@tomc13803 ай бұрын
@@MacInVR I've found that the meta pc app usb speed test can give you different results at different times. My OG Link cable can show anything from 2.2 to 3.0 Gbps. The main purpose of the speed test is to ensure you have a good usb3 connection. Anything above 2.0Gbps should be ok imho.
@darrenwhitehouse76652 ай бұрын
Hi there Mac i originally brought the inui pcvr when i had quest 2 ages ago i still use inui with my quest 3 can i ask in what order did you connect the cables my method is power up pc power up quest 3 once into windows connect usb A to motherboard count 15 long secs the connect usb C to Q3 again count a long 15 secs then connect charger to dongle part i usually get 95% all the time still fully charged after use and i can sit on this for hours at a time but the odd 5% sometimes doesnt charge
@coolspider5002 ай бұрын
I get very tired playing vr so the kiwi one is perfect. even if it doesnt charge i wont be playing long enough for the battery to die idk how heavy it will be on me but i think it will be fine
@JulianKableАй бұрын
I read some reviews of the Iniu cable note that it works great for standalone games but has issues with not charging the headset when also connected to PC. did you notice any issues like this when testing?
@secondthought24 күн бұрын
Hi!, May I ask a question. Can I run flat-games ( non VR ) via usb cable from pc to Quest 3? ( as an Alternative to wireless Virtual Desktop route ) How would one go about doing this wired. Is meta link app good enough for this? is any worse than wireless route thru Virtual Desktop ( still talking about running flat-games on a virtual Screen )
@MacInVR4 күн бұрын
If you have Xbox game pass, there is a native app for playing on a giant screen. If you have virtual desktop, you could play on a virtual screen. I use the Xbox app to play Halo and BLOPS 6 so it works really well 😉
@onura271016 күн бұрын
Thank you
@michelfortin7055Ай бұрын
I just ordered the Iniu. Good price, 15% off the first order with a 30-day full refund, no questions asked guarantee and it keeps the headset charged indefinitely.
@MacInVRАй бұрын
That is the one I prefer, can basically play for hours on end without any battery anxiety 😅
@Ghostly-00Ай бұрын
Because of your comment plus the video I've also ordered an INIU for myself. So thanks lol
@Zer01neBDTDev22 күн бұрын
Bad idea, it will die soon enough.
@southparkfunny5365 күн бұрын
@@Zer01neBDTDev shut up
@vidostrbenk590011 күн бұрын
whats the difference between link cable and tunderbolt 4? would thunderbolt 4 not work?
@MacInVR10 күн бұрын
The thunderbolt ports and USB- are compatible but can provide more power, which is probably why the Meta Link Cable manages to keep the headset fully charged
@adriking4272Ай бұрын
Why no link for inui cable in description :(
@MacInVRАй бұрын
Added to description: amzn.to/4fqUaBJ
@clamojoat85432 ай бұрын
ok so that explains Y the official cable is expensive. and also according to google usb 3.0 A isn't 2.4 capable. only C is and 2.4 is required to power and charge the quest. so that means ANY type A cable isn't gona cut it so that's Y them others include extra power. problem is the cable may not cut it do to the extra power going in hence Y some a reporting problems still.
@MacInVR2 ай бұрын
I was fine with charging because my mobo has a Thunderbolt USB4 port, which can keep the headset 100% 😉
@clamojoat85432 ай бұрын
@@MacInVR K i don't have a thunderbolt port so i may end up just getting a external battery. i don't see any of these cables working for any one without that port
@federicocorsini964013 күн бұрын
Thanks for your videos :) I have a type C 3.2 gen 2 port! Would it be able to charge it?
@MacInVR13 күн бұрын
Anything above USB 3.0 should be okay 👍
@RabbitFCB2 ай бұрын
The Iniu one is out of stock on Amazon for me for more than a month already :( I’ve tested two other cables, but they dropped like 20-30% of charge every hour
@MacInVR2 ай бұрын
Try the upgraded AMVR, then? It worked as well as the Iniu but is a bit more expensive
@bobskimaxx3 ай бұрын
I have an Eniu cable as in your video BUT Quest 3 & 6e router is the way to go for AMS2 👍
@MacInVR3 ай бұрын
It's hard for me, I'm such a VD fan-boy but people need options 😉
@smanders818Ай бұрын
This is probably a dumb question, but you need this cord for the wifi correct? I can play all these games wirelessly but I could experience lag. New to VR and own a meta quest 3.
@MacInVRАй бұрын
No such thing as a dumb question my friend. You don't need this to play wirelessly, just use air link or buy Virtual Desktop (I've done loads of tutorials on that app).
@RockysbeatsАй бұрын
are there any headsets that just use a single cable and keep full charge just for watching movies and basic steam gaming using virtual screens you can move around. (Not high powered VR games with hand controls) ?
@MacInVR28 күн бұрын
A Quest 3 with the Iniu link cable could do that, plus you can use virtual desktop to play your flat screen gaming on screens you can move about, resize etc
@AQUASURF2 ай бұрын
I heard they should be usb-c (headset) to usb-c (on the pc) NOT the usb A being shown... is this not the case ? Also the ones with double ends - what is point im kinda confused -if one is for charging - what is the other doing as it cant be video so to speak unless its doing it like a usb camera would to take the desktop that way rather than hmdi or DP...
@AQUASURF2 ай бұрын
So you like my comment but, dont answer it ?
@MacInVR2 ай бұрын
Sorry, I thought I had replied. The Meta cable is USB-C to USB-C, the Iniu cable I use is USB-C to USB 3.0. The cables with the extra USB-C port are purely for keeping the headset charged 😉
@MetalJudgement10 күн бұрын
What's that contraption youn have on the top of your headset ? The one that connects to the bobovr i mean because at the minute im trying to have the my pc connected while running the fan on my Bobovr headstrap and i dont know what type c splitter i need.
@MacInVR10 күн бұрын
It's a KKCOBVR K3 facial interface with integrated fan & I don't understand the question, sorry.
@MetalJudgement10 күн бұрын
@@MacInVR I see so it's part of your head strap. My question basically is how to have the head strap connected at the same time with a link cable to the headset and both working at the same time.
@MacInVR10 күн бұрын
Okay, just plug it into the USB connector on your headset, you DO NOT NEED THE BoboVR battery as the link cable will charge your headset
@MetalJudgement10 күн бұрын
@@MacInVR ok I got it sir. Thank you! I have the BoboVr s3 pro headstrap and I wanted the fan that's on the forehead to run independently in order to do this I just have to press the button firmly while the battery is attached to the headstrap and and it just works lol. Then my headset port is available for the pc link cable.
@Getinbedrn18 күн бұрын
Hey how old does a mother board need to be to can’t play it cause I wanted to get a meta quest link cable for Christmas
@MacInVR17 күн бұрын
As long as it has USB 3.0 or above, you should be okay 👍
@mikejonesuk3 ай бұрын
As usual, Mac, a well-researched and informative video. I can't get wireless to work reliably on my PC/router set up, so have to use cables. I have a cheap 5 metre cable I bought years ago (2020) as soon as I bought my first Quest, and a shorter cable I use when sitting down near my computer desk for seated games/UEVR/video, etc. Do you know whether the KIWI cable management clips are available to buy separately?
@MacInVR3 ай бұрын
I'm afraid not, maybe replace your older cable with the Kiwi, then you get 2 of them 🤔
@rafalpyszny8018Ай бұрын
Hi Mac. I wonder if you could help me out? What cable would you recommend to use for Xbox series X and oculus quest 2? At first I thought I would need a capture card, but I don't need to record or stream . I can also connect wirelessly using Xbox cloud gaming app but it requires something like 17 pound monthly subscription. Just looking for something not expensive but reliable. My TV is up to speed with series X but REALLY want to give a shot to Quest 2. Thanks in advance 👍
@rafalpyszny8018Ай бұрын
@Mac in VR
@MacInVRАй бұрын
Really sorry, my friend, I use Xbox Ultimate to play via Quest and Android. All done wirelessly 😳
@chizu_Ай бұрын
Meta released an app called "Hdmi link" If you plug in an Hdmi cable to quest, it should work fine
@nielst.3891Күн бұрын
My Syntech cable (5 mtr length) achieves 2.5Gbps.
@MacInVR16 сағат бұрын
That's pretty good 👍
@Red-MagicАй бұрын
My link cable of 4+ years recently died, and they weren't being made anymore. So to replace it, I bought a Syntech one. While it does similar charging to what you describe for the INIU one, the Syntech cable has horrible connection reliability issues. It's as if they made their USB-C end to a slightly different than standard dimension, so you get disconnects if you shake your head or wiggle the cable at the port, and that of course kicks you out of your game and the link itself. I bought an INIU one recently and it's expected to arrive next week, and I'm glad to see you recommend it as highly as you do. Hopefully they don't have manufacturing issues like Syntech
@MacInVRАй бұрын
Mine has worked flawlessly. I also use those awesome little cable management clips from Kiwi Design 😉
@AKCobra11203 ай бұрын
Honestly, I think virtual desktop with a wifi 6e router is superior to Meta's clunky wired solution. I can only imagine how good it COULD be if Guy Godin had access to the usb interface.
@RolandDobbins3 ай бұрын
These tech boomers just can’t fathom it.
@jdogofoz36423 ай бұрын
link cable quality is always better then VD if I want the best clarity in my q3 I'm always reaching for that cable in sim racing games amd skyrim etc I have a wifi6e router. I also have a 7800x3d paired with a 4090.
@ChrisJones-sw9il3 ай бұрын
@@jdogofoz3642does cable give u better fps too?
@jdogofoz36423 ай бұрын
@@ChrisJones-sw9il no bout the same. don't get me wrong though the wireless from VD and airl link etc are awesome and a great for 90% of pcvr but some benefit from that slight extra clarity of the cable but nothing is more free then being completely wireless
@jss48373 ай бұрын
Latency is significantly better with cable, and i think visuals are better and more stable too. But otherwise yeah vd is pretty good.
@mauriceshapero72002 ай бұрын
This is a great informative video - thank you. I'm trying to determine if it would be better to get a 5 or even a 10 Gbps cable, will the quality of the image be noticably better, ie. less compression. Especially at 120Hz.? Or is there a limit to what the quest 3 can handle, and 2.5 Gbps is more than enough?
@MacInVR2 ай бұрын
All of the encoding & decoding is done by the headset, so an higher rate cable wouldn't make a difference. 2.5gbps is perfectly acceptable 👌
@mauriceshapero72002 ай бұрын
@@MacInVR yep, I got a 5gbps cable and it made zero difference! Strangely the 5gps kiwi cable when tested says it’s 2.1gbps. But the 2.5 Iniu cable comes out at 2.4!
@MacInVR2 ай бұрын
That's close to what I got 😊
@mauriceshapero72002 ай бұрын
@@MacInVRdoes that mean the Kiwi cable isn’t really 5gbps? Or is it just the way oculus measures it?
@MacInVR2 ай бұрын
The theoretical speed is 5gbps, all the cables claim that (even the fibre optic Meta link cable). In reality, between 2-2.5gbps 😲
@Belthorian2 ай бұрын
Question, if you have a USB 3.2 port and a 10 gig cable, will it work better than the cables listed? Also if I am connected through virtual desktop with a WiFi-6 connection don't I have more bandwidth than a direct cable connection?
@MacInVR2 ай бұрын
1) Interesting question, from what I can discern, 5gb is a theoretical speed, but really only 2.5gb is feasible. Would be interesting to try and see what you get though. 2) The bottleneck is the Quest encode/decode cycle, so the answer is no.
@Belthorian2 ай бұрын
@@MacInVR I was getting 2.6 gb in the test. I had the quest app running on the PC with quest link active. Inside MSFS I hit the Control Tab combo to go into VR mode and it said headset not detected. I have always used Virtual Desktop so I am not even sure how to do VR in quest link for MSFS 2020.
@MacInVR2 ай бұрын
In the Quest headset, open the quick settings menu (bottom left) then click link (there is an option to launch automatically if Quest detects a link cable as well).
@Belthorian2 ай бұрын
@@MacInVR I did that, I was successfully linked but Microsoft Flight Simulator could not detect the headset.
@oohkaay2 ай бұрын
Hi Mac, do ineed to plug in and out every session? Or can i leave the cable connected to pc and quest 3, and turn the headset on and off when i want to play in vr after starting the pc? thx
@MacInVR2 ай бұрын
I often leave my Q3 plugged and hanging up, won't do it any harm 😉
@oohkaay2 ай бұрын
@@MacInVR Thanks, for helping and your nice review! I remove the quest adapter, when i don' t use it, but the green light indicates that it is still charging? I thought constant charging makes the accu go bad over time... Also, i was wondering if it has to be plugged in and out for each new session (after shutting donw pc) for some reason. To make it even more confusing, Sebastian from MRTV and some other guys tell us to connect in a different order: PC-Quest3-power cable instead of what is in my manual: power cable-Quest3-pc 🤪
@oohkaay2 ай бұрын
@@MacInVR TY, mate!
@Face_WASPS3 ай бұрын
Great vid, have the official cable, but try not to use any.
@MacInVR3 ай бұрын
Too busy making little Faces 😂
@Face_WASPS3 ай бұрын
@@MacInVR well keeping them feed and watered mostly
@GrodstarkАй бұрын
On reddit etc I see alot of people completely sh!t on the Iniu cable for some reason. They say it wont work etc, is it just rookie errors from these people or what?
@MacInVRАй бұрын
The problem is that everyone PC's are different, they may not have their drivers up to date etc BUT because it doesn't work (even though it's their fault) the product is crap. Me? Everything is up to date. My Iniu cable gets used for all my sim-racing live streams and keeps my headset at 100% 🤩
@GrodstarkАй бұрын
@@MacInVR Update, it does not work flawlessly. It refuse to detect USB 3.0 and it only goes to 350mbps, not 2.5gbps. I've tried connecting my Rift cv1 in the same USB and it detects 3.0 without a problem. This cable refuse to detect any of my USB 3 ports and only gives me a USB 2.0 which is unplayable.
@Zer01neBDTDev22 күн бұрын
Mine just died, so yeah, it won't work for long.
@tasosm7x3 ай бұрын
INIU is the GOAT
@MacInVR3 ай бұрын
For the price, it's pretty amazing 😉
@bryn-plays24 күн бұрын
Can a link cables damage a quest 3
@MacInVR24 күн бұрын
No 😉
@bryn-plays23 күн бұрын
@MacInVR but can't It over charger the vr and damaged the battery
@MacInVR23 күн бұрын
No, it cannot. I've been using link cables since the OG Quest and have never had any problems 😉
@bryn-plays22 күн бұрын
@@MacInVR thank you
@shingetsu1026 күн бұрын
Surely any old USB-C cable will work
@MacInVR26 күн бұрын
Needs to be a high quality data cable that can also carry a charge, so no 😉
@Zer01neBDTDev22 күн бұрын
Do not buy INUI Cable, the Cable will stop working soon enough, mine stopped working after less than 10 Usage. The cable is not reliable in time. Again do not buy it. (And stop removing my comment, are you paid by INUI ?).
@MacInVR21 күн бұрын
I'm not paid by Iniu, I've had my cable for 6 months & have had no problems