I have considered a Ultra anchor for years but never purchased one because it would require removing and re-welding our boats pulpit. My only other concern with the Ultra is that loosing an anchor can easily happen when anchoring in BC and Alaska due to fouling discarded logging camp equipment. It was pretty common that logging camps would just dump their hoist systems cables and sometime the winches, and if you are unlucky you can get fouled on them and loose your anchor kit. We had a close call on the outside of Baranof Island when we snagged a ghost commercial prawn trap that was full of giant starfish. So we are still utilizing the oversized Bruce anchor, which works well in our muddy PNW conditions and I have an unassembled flat packed Galvanized Steel Mantus M1 Anchor as a backup. (If I were to do it again, I would order a Mantus M2 as a backup, but it didn't exist in 2016.)
@SailHub11 ай бұрын
Hey, yeah…! What a worry to loose such a gem. We had a similar episode with a Rocna years back.. We spent ages retrieving it from a WW1 wreckage. Ultra have an intersection retrieval ring that’s looks like it may be good, I know that Steve and Judy from Fair Isle (KZbin) have one - it may be worth asking them what they think of it.
@svfairisle Жыл бұрын
Great video and I can only agree with what you have said. We’ve anchored every night for 4 years now with our Ultra with zero problems, before that with our Delta we had about 4 or 5 instances a year where it would let us down in some way. We have a 110bhp engine and a Maxprop so we get insane pull if we blast back at high revs but in anything other than weed I can’t get the anchor to drag with proper scope out, it’s ultimate holding power is excellent
@SailHub Жыл бұрын
Cheers guys. A true piece of marine innovation right there! Hope to catch up soon guys!
@SVImpavidus Жыл бұрын
Got ours on the strength of Steve's review. Undoubtedly the best anchor we have ever had!
@SailHub Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it’s a super good piece of kit - Fair isle certainly put it through its paces too, great guys and great reviews too!👍
@halvoraase1484 Жыл бұрын
We´ve used the Ultra 21 kg with swivel for 6 years now our Najad 361 (specs 7,5 tonn, but fully loaded closer to 9). It performs excellent, we´ve never had any problems and we sleep like babies when on anchor.
@SailHub Жыл бұрын
Awesome! It’s sure been an easy sleep for us for two years too! The thing is just awesome. 👍 p.s - nice boat you’ve got there too!
@scottkillam4923 Жыл бұрын
I finally was able to buy an Ultra anchor and swivel for my new Jeanneau SO 349, and it is definitely worth the price. It has lived up to its reputation and all of the reviews I’ve read over the past couple of years. You can’t put a price on anchoring peace of mind.
@SailHub Жыл бұрын
If we think of an anchor as an one off payment insurance policy it’s a clear winner… if one can afford the one off payment that is!
@jonoz1007 ай бұрын
I have an SO349 too and have been thinking of getting an Ultra. What size did you get?
@SailHub7 ай бұрын
Have you checked out the Ultra sizing chart, it’s remarkably good. We went the larger size as we were between options but I must be honest it really seems overkill. So this time we’ve gone with the smaller size. This time it’s 21kg on a 12m aluminium Berckemeyer and last time it was 21kg on a 10m Najad.
@scottkillam49237 ай бұрын
We got the recommended 16 kg/35lb anchor with 125 ft of 8mm G4 chain sliced to 175 ft of 8 plait braided nylon line. We also got the Ultra swivel, which is a must have to go with the anchor. Did over 1200 nms cruising last year and slept well every night.
@deerfootnz27 күн бұрын
Why did you buy a swivel? What exactly does it change for you?
@aarongoldberg3212 Жыл бұрын
Amazing footage! Love the test Video. Ultra is #1
@SailHub Жыл бұрын
Hey Aaron! Thanks very much!! 👍⛵️
@rickedwards7276Ай бұрын
I never know what to think about some of these Anchor tests. Here in Southeast Alaska more often than not we anchor on very narrow shelves at the end of a fjord or adjacent to a steep drop off. They’re almost no places where I could use a six to one or even four to one ratio. With a 20 foot tidal range I’d end up on the rocks or hard aground if I let the boat wander that much with that much rode. More commonly I’ll anchor With about a 2 1/2 to 3 times depth rode ratio. And we have currents that are 3 or 4 knots that change twice a day. My Rocna 15 has never dragged and in benign conditions I don’t even bother to set it with the engine, just let it set itself as the boat drifts around. I’m sure this is a very nice Anchor but at that price I would wanna mount it on a mahogany base in my living room and not throw it off into the unknown depths of the Alexander Archipelago.
@SailHubАй бұрын
Love it! Yeah, she’s a costly lump alright. I tried to show the short scope the best I could in the video but I’ve got to show the ‘recommended’ scope to keep the purists happy. Personally with the ultra and Rocna I settled for 4:1 and down to a 2.5:1 when I had too. Both worked well, the ultra I think is better in kelp and the likes and in softer ground. Aside from that I would suggest they are similar. Looking forward to sailing up your way one day! It’s certainly one of the reasons we’re buiding our boat! 👍
@SVImpavidus Жыл бұрын
The best anchor we have ever had in 40 years of boat ownership. Sail Safe Guys, Ant & Cid.
@SailHub Жыл бұрын
Probably the best nights sleep you have had in 40 year too! Cheers guys! 👍
@hafenkinoblog3 ай бұрын
thank you for your review! Very helpful your scope testing!
@SailHub3 ай бұрын
Glad you found it useful and thanks for letting us know too 👍
@burrows10011Ай бұрын
Incredible test results. I don’t have a boat nor do i live near an ocean and I’m going to buy it anyway.😅
@SailHubАй бұрын
😂 love it! We’re much the same.. Certainly can’t afford one for the new boat however it’s hard to want to buy anything else! I mean, if we lost our boat due to its anchor we will always know that we could have bought an Ultra. It’s tricky! Well, it’s not really. We’ve just got to save up!
@herberthahn6964 Жыл бұрын
Great under water video is an informative an fun to watch, immpressed.
@SailHub Жыл бұрын
Hey! Thanks very much, really appreciate it 👍
@rafaelmalhado7585 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video full of useful information... as usual in this channel. The Anchor really shines on the pressure test but, I wonder, would the values be so insanely good without that little fish helping along the way ? hehehe All the best guys !!!
@SailHub Жыл бұрын
Mate, the sea was so clear. A dream! Probably even warm enough for you to swim in! 👍⛵️
@petertaylor8922 Жыл бұрын
The SCOPE is the "RATIO" between distance from sea bed to anchor roller & the length of rode let out. A 6:1 ratio would mean 6 times the distance from sea bed to anchor roller. Testing should include a varied number of sea beds.
@SailHub Жыл бұрын
Yup, you got that right! That’s exactly what scope is! For reference we cruised with the anchor for two years straight as permanent live-aboards with no other abode and anchored in pretty much everything you could throw at it. 👍 We class our reviews as proper reviews by marine professionals, I hope you can understand this is a review based upon our experiences with videography used to show the product in action.
@petertaylor8922 Жыл бұрын
@@SailHub I'm a Keelboat cruising instructor (over 30 years)...& a little pedantic. I'm also a little obsessive regarding boat terminology & safety.
@SailHub Жыл бұрын
@@petertaylor8922 good stuff, I’m a little confused - is that not what I said scope was?
@svenrump32875 ай бұрын
the sand shown almost looks clinical...
@akseakayaker3 ай бұрын
In future testing you should include information on your anchor rod used. Size of chain, chain line combination for example. Chain adds weight to the system and absorbs wind gusts helping to keep angle of attack down so obviously the deployment of all heavy chain gives an advantage over lighter chain of chain/line combinations
@SVMojito Жыл бұрын
We just bought a Sarca Excel based on the SV Panope review. Will let you know how we get on.
@SailHub Жыл бұрын
Hey guys, nice to hear from you both. Awesome, interesting choice. Would love to hear how you get on with it 👍 What happened to the Lewmar plan? ⚓️
@ThierrySRA Жыл бұрын
Ultra Anchor, after one year, the very best, the most secure, the best investment for successful cruising.
@SailHub Жыл бұрын
Great to hear! 👌👍
@jerryburrage32388 ай бұрын
using ultra 27kg for almost 10 years long distance on 17 ton long keel cutter no complaints at all, however if I can ever afford it I will upgrade to 33kg.
@SailHub8 ай бұрын
Cool, great to hear. If it’s been so good, why the potential upgrade?
@svenrump32875 ай бұрын
In my experience the first reset you do pushed by the wind? I would expect in the near windless situation you are in that the boat is held by the chain only with a 6:1 scope. The anchor would not turn around as violently as you show it. Did you use the motor for that? As you yourself said many times in the video ' I can't believe it? Nice video, thx
@SailHub5 ай бұрын
Hi, you can take what you want from the video, all one want to say is that I was not paid and I have the anchor back. I’m also not in the business of giving people poor information. That’s not fair nor right. As for the anchor moving quickly, think about 6tonne of boat traveling on a chain around 80m in a straight line. SOG was around 2.5kn from memory, so personally I would expect a fair snatch. You’ve got to remember I was motoring completely against the wind before I let her go too.
@psr1868 Жыл бұрын
Question? Is the ultra anchor rated for your boat size/displacement? Or is it oversized?.
@SailHub Жыл бұрын
Hey, it is a 21kg that was sized correctly for its displacement, and one size over for the boats length (basically we used to carry an entire boatbuilding workshop on that boat! So she was really overweight). For reference, the holding power really is incredible and when we come to put an anchor in our next boat I hope it’s an Ultra and we will go with their recommendation table - I don’t believe you need to spec up.
@psr1868 Жыл бұрын
Cheers for answering my questions..I'm in my 60's I've just downsized my boat from a 42ft yawl to a 28ft cutter .I'm in the middle of a refit ,Sailed twice around the dirtball on my previous boat over many years .. I'm originally from New Zealand in the USA right now.
@SailHub Жыл бұрын
@@psr1868 Wow! What an amazing story! Will you be documenting your refit? I would love to see it 😬👍
@svenrump32875 ай бұрын
looks large indeed, however the chain rather thin?
@SailHub5 ай бұрын
@svenrump3287 sure it is, it’s duplex stainless. Pretty much twice the strength of the same sized g40 galvanised chain. You can save a lot of weight and space in the bow with it. It allowed us to carry 100m with ease.
@mymobile5014 Жыл бұрын
But the anchor was set before you reduced to 2.5 ratio. What if you set it to begin with at 2.5? Would it set properly?
@SailHub Жыл бұрын
Hi, as mentioned in the video I really would not suggest setting at anything other than a 6:1 ratio of you want the anchor to hold. For reference, if I’m setting for a 3:1 or lower I would usually set at 4:1 if it’s good weather or 6:1 for bad weather and then shorten the scope. In my opinion setting at 2.5:1 would not be sensible, the angles are not sufficient. If you try it (with whatever anchor) let us know how you get on!
@Lana_Warwick9 ай бұрын
I'd trust a simple Bow/Double jaw swivel setup with chafe sleeve to keep it quite in the roller vs what's on that anchor, potentially bending, snapping during an overnight turn. ~$15 vs mantus bow swivel @~$150
@SailHub9 ай бұрын
Yeah, that’s a fab set up for saftey, I used to do the same, but I found that lifting after several days at anchor led to lots of chain twist and having to empty the chain from the locker several times to remove the twists
@Lana_Warwick9 ай бұрын
@@SailHub Old school sticky swivels did that, newer types are heaps better. Gotta think outside huge mark-up marine industry who are years behind in tech (i.e. when did you last see a spider clamp on a car) what would the better value auto industry, earthmoving, oil rig, etc, use.
@SailHub9 ай бұрын
@Lana_Warwick they did, but they broke. A lot. The problem we have is that our industry demands high quality gear, in this instance super duplex steel but it’s manufactured for a tiny market which still need to sustain it’s self. Hence the price is high, it’s just the way it is and always will be until every ounce is monopolised.
@captain-Dan Жыл бұрын
I've just got a viking 20, disassembled it for air transport and I can't wait to see if it's better than the CQR
@SailHub Жыл бұрын
My goodness, your in for a surprise! Let us know how you get on - that’s a serious upgrade! 👌
@paullieblich395023 күн бұрын
Reminder you need more then one test under same conditions for a real fair test.
@SailHub23 күн бұрын
Yeah of course! We tested it for a year as I said. Mind you, the video was a real time experiment that just confirmed the usual results for the camera. There’s a lot of effort goes into these videos and we don’t get paid to make them so I think it’s pretty reasonable as it is. If I had the finances I can guarantee I would do things differently! That would be such a fab opportunity too!! One day 🤞
@eloynogueira6 ай бұрын
💥Great video! PLEASE, could sailboat owners post here their experiences with winds above 60 knots or more, with the wind speed, anchor model, anchor weight and size of the sailboat and how it behaved? It would be great information for everyone!!! Thank you very much!!!
@SailHub6 ай бұрын
Many thanks! Anchors for heavy winds, the worst I have experienced was around 60kn in an uncharted anchorage with plenty of swell, it was the swell that made it in nerving. I had an oversized Rocna - over size by one size according to their chart. It was superb, like I mentioned in the video, This was my go to choice until I met the Ultra.
@jackwickman24039 ай бұрын
When you pull at 3 to 1 scope the anchor shank is almost horizontal. when you pull at 2.5 to 1 scope the shank appears to be only slightly angled up from the bottom. Your chain must be massively heavy to droop/sag/catenary curve enough to have such a horizontal angle on the shank with such short scope. In future videos please show the chain in the shot of the anchor under tension so we can see the sag. Am I misjudging the angle of pull? Is the chain sagging, or nearly straight at max pull? Holding in loose sand at 2.5 to1 scope seems like a miricle
@jackwickman24039 ай бұрын
miracle
@SailHub9 ай бұрын
Hey Jack, that’s weird ay, I wonder if it’s due to the camera being on the swivel and giving a weird angle. The chain was 6mm duplex so certainly not a weighty affair. We’ve changed boats these days, we have a big project on, we will get into that later but one thing is for sure, there was only one anchor ever going in the front of it. The Ultra really was leagues ahead, especially on short scopes than anything I have ever used. It was also ahead in pretty much every other situation too. They are expensive though but with all of the effort going into a new build there was only one way for us to go. Sorry the video’s not quite what you would like though, we will do our best to get it better for you next time!
@SailHub9 ай бұрын
Yup, it’s hard to believe but it is what it is! Check out Steve and Judy’s review from Sailing Fair Isle, I can’t remember what Steve said about it but I know he was also surprised by the performance in shallow water.
@joakimharlin90302 ай бұрын
I use a stainless Spade and a Vulcan. Both excellent but I think the Ultra may be just as good. The Vulcan wins the best value prize.
@SailHub2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I can agree with that. I rekon the Ultra May have the edge on the spade but let’s be fair, they are good, very good.
@aarongoldberg3212 Жыл бұрын
Are you going to test the Rocna M2?
@SailHub Жыл бұрын
Hi Aaron, I hope so! We’ve been speaking with CMP since November last year about it - Yes, it’s been around thy long! Hopefully we will get a hold of one soon!
@billhanna8838 Жыл бұрын
Hell were do you find clean sand like that Ha not a lot in NZ
@SailHub Жыл бұрын
West coast black sand! Awesome part of the world your in there. Hope to be back there some day. Enjoy!
@shonmalone6793 Жыл бұрын
Have you tested the Mantus anchor?
@SailHub Жыл бұрын
Hi, not yet. I hope to in the future. On first glances, I’m not super keen, the large roll bar must create some “unsettling” of the seabed above the fluke. But, looks are not everything, I prefer to let the numbers speak. What are your experiences with one? I must say, I do know of many people who are very impressed with the mantus, @anauticahange (KZbin) being one of them! That love it! Oh, while we’re on with Mantus, I think their swivel is awesome and their snubber is fab - if you want to use a metal snubber that is.
@shonmalone6793 Жыл бұрын
@@SailHub thats my main Anchor on a Beneteau Oceanis 400 with 400' of chain, my 2ndary is a lewmar claw 44. I've never dragged with the Mantus but I have with the lewmar. yes their swivel works great and so snubber hook is easy to use
@SailHub Жыл бұрын
Great to hear! Hope to be lucky enough to test one in the future! Thanks for the info too - super good for people to hear 👍
@randolphh800510 ай бұрын
Long time boater, currently using an M1 20kg with the Mantus swivel on chain. Best anchor I have ever used, sets first try always. Use 4:1 scope normally, never drags. But, only used in sand, clay and heavier mud. Past anchor was Rocna, also very good but dragged twice in same cruising grounds. Aluminum Spade on different boat also good. In past Bruce, just not reliable, and way back the CQR, which is not that great compared to modern anchors, and was difficult to set. With the Mantus, it will set with as little as 2:1 scope in sand, meaning if I anchor in current and put out 2:1 but let the boat drift back to avoid dumping the chain on the anchor, it will bite hard. Then I let out proper scope and test it with the engine. Pretty much always find that it stays exactly where it was when it first bit the seabed. To be fair to all, I’m currently in Florida where it’s mostly sand or sand mix anchoring, but also the same anchorages where the Rocna failed(rarely). Also we often anchor in tidal inlets, so get full reversal of current often twice in 24 hours. Never had a problem with it moving any distance I could perceive. Despite 180 degree swings The swivel seems trustworthy, but does get a little stiff if it collects too much mud and then won’t swivel as readily. Washing it out with a hose stream works reasonably well, but is a bit of effort since by that time the anchor is askew in the roller as it comes up.
@gordondyer458711 ай бұрын
There is no such thing as the perfect anchor. I had a couple of months in Turkey this last season and had quite a lot of SS work done. I asked the local guy carrying out the work about the Ultra which is made in Turkey. His response was not about the holding power, but about the bent shanks he regularly gets to straighten! My main anchor is a Sarca Excel 30kg, I have only used for 2 years, but rate vey highly. My 2nd anchor is Mantus M2 25kg that I used before the Excel, was good but did not like aft mud ( probably fair to say very few anchors do) this anchor being 2 piece also stirs very nicely in chocks in the bilge. If all else fails, I have a small fortress, which I have never had to deploy.
@SailHub11 ай бұрын
Cheers for commenting, it’s probably true there is no perfect anchor and thanks for sharing your experiences! I must say I’m not really convinced by your fabricator friend though… being a stainless fabricator myself I find the Ultra really well made and I have not seen any bent shanks yet, I’m not saying it doesn’t happen though, just a hollow shank is definitely stiffer than a solid shank especially with the internal bracing. I have also seen a multitude of bent anchors over the years and one thing I would say is that straightening them is probably not a wise choice. Cheers, Chris
@j.g.w.vanderneut4884 Жыл бұрын
You need to see youre prop because you are not moving, so there s no water pushing the blades to unfold the prop to deliver the power when its fully opened.
@SailHub Жыл бұрын
Hi, I’m not so sure that’s correct. The prop folds with water flowing over it and no propulsion from the motor. With the torque from the motor running and in gear the blades are absolutely open, the chain is bar tight and we are trying to move astern.
@licencetoswill Жыл бұрын
folding props unfold from revs, not from water flow. at 1k rpm it'll be fully open
@SailHub Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, thanks for that 👍
@robthompson7174 Жыл бұрын
How about the issue of crevice corrosion of stainless over the long haul, years of use, and being then stressed if anchoring in rocks for example. Not the most durable solution re strength I think. I also think Steve at Panope made similar comment?
@SailHub Жыл бұрын
HeybRob, Sure, I can see your thoughts here. As a boatbuilder I would suggest that crevice corrosion of 316L would not really be an issue unless you were anchoring all of the time. Water pH, temperature and salinity is something that makes a difference though and we must check for crevice corrosion annually - how many people check their stainless swivels as they often have different materials touching. Mild steel must also be checked though - In particular I have seen many delta and spade anchors compromised in strength through corrosion and of course a huge amount of unsuitable chains in action. Crevice corrosion though, it is harder to spot, which could be a problem. Crevice corrosion can of course be an accelerated by galvanic action but it’s not too likely to be rapid if the whole anchoring system is made from the same materials. It can be independent from the rest of the ships ground system too - unlike chain plates or the rig (this is dependant in windlass set up though) The other benefit of crevice corrosion is that it’s pretty easy to repair. Regarding anchoring all of the time we must also consider the varying electrical potential throughout the depth of the sea, this is the case for a galvanised chain too and it certainly accelerates corrosion… Maybe a old school rope is the way to go? Does catenary action really mater? Personally I think anchoring is a heated topic, I think the Ultra anchor is brilliant, wether we spend up to buy one we’re not so sure as of yet. Our previous Rocna was pretty dammed good too. What to do????
@robthompson7174 Жыл бұрын
Yep, always pros and cons, isn't there? I'd say the windlass would be included in the bonding system, especially since they usually have several dissimilar metals in them, so stainless chain would benefit from that. But I know of 2 cruisers that had crevice corrosion in some link of their stainless chain, lucky that it was spotted before failure. We went with G100 Armogalv chain which for the 8mm has breaking strength of over 8 ton, and a 33kg Excel, for the performance and strength.
@SailHub Жыл бұрын
@@robthompson7174Pro's and con's that boats for us! by the way - good choice re your chain, super strong! Regarding the windlass, they usually are part of the system however use of double pole breaker, one for positive one for negative can separate the system from the ships ground. These breakers are common on Aluminium boats as large loads are often preferred to be completely isolated when not in use, the windlass is also insulated from contact with the deck.
@robthompson7174 Жыл бұрын
@@SailHub I don’t understand your double pole breaker suggestion. I was referring to the bonding system for galvanic corrosion protection, which is separate from ships DC ground system. As you know, the bonding system on a non metallic boat has its own dedicated single point contact to the sea, and carries no electrical current. So how would a double pole breaker have any benefit?
@SailHub Жыл бұрын
@@robthompson7174 hey Rob, your right - However this is where it gets interesting and the owner must make a decision. To bond or not to bond the windlass. In my experience it is equally common for windlasses to be connected to a bonding system or not. Generally they are connected because regulations state they should be and they are not because they are not permanently connected via water to the other metal parts in the system (they are not permanently under water) rendering it pointless until at anchor. If they were bonded and permanently submerged the zinc on the chain would likely become the anode or in a stainless chain your crevice corrosion starts. So… again, pros and cons. That old rope rode is looking more inviting again 🤣 Despite what I am saying here and we must that I believe the British marine regulations state that all electronics aboard should be bonded. Gotta love boats!
@garymynett7707 Жыл бұрын
It seems like you are really trying hard to find a fault in the Ultra anchor - why? I have an Ultra anchor, swivel and bow roller and, although I do not yet have a lot of experience with it, I’m very pleased with its performance on my 44,000 pound displacement boat.
@SailHub Жыл бұрын
I think it’s the best anchor on the market. Why am I trying to find a fault… I can find a few places to improve the products, it’s my job. Marine product development, I look for problems to make things better. The other thing is that if we don’t highlight any slight niggles people think it’s a biased review - which we do not want to be associated with. All in all I would be very happy with your gear, I think it’s superior even at its elevated cost. ⛵️👍
@vic2e65211 ай бұрын
@@SailHubdidn't seem to me you were trying to find a fault , I felt you were just giving it a full test , and why not . I have a 27kg ultra on my 42ft sea ray . This video as well as a few other reviews helped me to make up my mind . They are not cheap , so it was good to know its full holding power before purchasing. Thanks for your review .
@SailHub11 ай бұрын
@vic2e652 cheers and happy anchoring! We had the anchor on test for two years and I was trying to find any fault and to be honest the only thing that came up was the price, the restraining hook) which works fine but could be better). The swivel in my eyes could rotate in a larger hole too, it’s doesn’t need to but it would be stronger. 👍
@MARIOSAILOR1 Жыл бұрын
I dont see nothing impressive in This test, on That perfect conditions. 2.000€ for a 21kg of stainless steel???? No thanks, Theres other cheaper anchors in the market with the same or Better performance. Its totaly normal That drags in 2.5 Scoop. Enjoy your Ultra, its a Nice beautiful anchor.
@SailHub Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for the comment… I must say, there’s not many anchors I’ve tested that will hold at full throttle. Oh, it’s not our anchor either - just an honest test and it has been returned to the company. No payment involved. ⛵️👍
@MARIOSAILOR1 Жыл бұрын
@@SailHub it Will be fair if you keep with The anchor 👍
@SailHub Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes, it would be good but it was only a years trial.
@deerfootnz4 ай бұрын
The problem with sailing fair isle is they know little about sailing and boats and have little experience. They are professional journalists. They are good at making videos - and so they should be. But they are not professional sailors or marine engineers or naval architects. I have seen several "facts" from them that were plain wrong. Just like all journalists everywhere.
@deerfootnz4 ай бұрын
And to be clear I am not saying an Ultra anchor is bad or good.... I just think there are way better sources of information than sailing fair isle which is one of the least trustworthy sailing channels for this sort of information.
@SailHub4 ай бұрын
Interesting observations. May be worth a check ming their credentials. If you get to spend any time with them I’m sure you will find them rather humbling people.
@danfox14588 күн бұрын
What's 2.5K to losing your boat?, don't skimp out on brake pads don't skimp out of anchors
@SailHub8 күн бұрын
Hey Dan, I rekon your right there! After testing this we didn’t even question what anchor we were going to buy for our current boatbuild! There is no way I’m putting all of that effort in to loose her by saving what is in reality a small price to pay when we look at the boats overall cost.
@danfox14588 күн бұрын
@SailHub yes that is so very true! I know I'll be getting the ultra anchor when i my boat!
@Onyourbiketoo5 ай бұрын
so no real proof of what it holds just your little sail boat engine in reverse .. proof means a winch, on a mudflat with load cells to see pulls in KG and measured lengths from drop to set. Also what really rubs me up the wrong way is not just your waffle but that you dis a steel galvanised version as cheap and rubbish ...to me, it adds strength to the thought that he Ultra Anchor is just playing to the lightweight plastic fantastic boats. Stainless Steel is unnecessary, expensive and even more expensive to loose .. galvanised steel will out last the life of the boat and will cost a fraction of the cost, but I'm happy for those who weight shiny ahead of function. Go Rocna or go home ... or shiny 😁
@SailHub5 ай бұрын
Hey up, I’m sorry I seem to have offended you. I’m not here to boast and shout, I don’t even own the anchor, it’s gone back and guess what. A Rocna was to be the replacement. Not for performance though, more performance to cost ratio on an item thats as you rightly said it could get lost! I do want to mention that having been a Rocna user for years I do feel like the Ultra is actually better but I’m not here to make descisions for people, I just want to lay my findings out for people. I also don’t get paid or do anything biased for anybody. I’m just speaking as I find. For reference, I didn’t reference Galvanising as cheap, I just said why they can’t make their design in mild steel and as for the testing, we’ve got a bunch in the pipeline but I’m pretty sure that doesn’t render my findings to date pointless.
@Onyourbiketoo5 ай бұрын
@@SailHub fair retort .. it was the bit about Ultra not doing a galvanised option .. "just for the sake of doing something cheap " .. I'll take your comment and onboard and downgrade my 'rub up wrong way' a just 'miffed' ;-) .. a small engineering correction, it is possible to galvanise something hollow ar long as it has a couple of very small bleed holes that could be closed off afterwards with flus grub screws. As you say, it's a personal choice but to me a no brainer .. £2,500 for the Ultra or £500 for a 20Kg Rocna. Last but no means least, my reference to 'propper' tests .. mud flats, chain, tower, winch, load cell .. you mention motorsport so you know the quick lap is the one that you almost feel guilty that you didn't push it and it was smooth ;-) .. and to put into context your "that's an enormous amount of thrust .. " well on that engine at WOT in reverse it would be a bollard pull of around 100 to 150 Kg .. fair weather and good sailing to you.
@SailHub5 ай бұрын
@Onyourbiketoo cheers for the reply, it’s really hard testing things and making videos about it, the thing is. We only have so much gone and we can’t choose the weather. All we can do is our best. Mind you, we have lined a few things up for measured testing in the future which I am pretty excited about tbh