2019 Hymer Aktiv 2.0 Loft Edition Review | Should You Buy This Family Pop Top Camper Van?

[@Ultramobility]

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[@ednapuckett1042]

Thanks Neil, When you addressed the driver’s seat I laughed in a good way because you listened. Your review was really thorough.

[@Ultramobility]

thanks edna. I do indeed listen to each and every one of you. when you watch one of my reviews nearly everything in it has been touch by comments from viewers. these videos are as much a product of you as they are of me.

[@gosman949]

Neil, glad you have added the seating position and bed position in the videos! I'm slightly taller than you (I have shrunken!). So it is important for me to find a van that will seat comfortably while driving and give me plenty of room while sleeping. Please keep these specs and views of you in the seats and bed in your future videos!

[@Ultramobility]

you got it. they are a part of the new review series format. thanks jay!

[@ryanbirr1668]

I absolutely agree with Jay, it really helps perspectives. Views can get distorted with lenses at times and it can be hard to judge. Thanks for adding this aspect to your videos.

[@anthonycbrown1952]

Agree 100% with Jay. Neil, you are helping many people avoid buyers remorse and make a more informed purchase decision. I cannot tell you how many reviews are out there where a person demonstrates a space and makes zero mention of their height / size.

[@Ultramobility]

anthony - I get all these ideas from you, the viewers. i'm just following what you want to see so keep it up!

[@anthonycbrown1952]

Thank you for the great review. It angers me to no end when a manufacturer knows there is a flaw in a design (no bathroom ventilation) and fails to address it. 5+ people in the new touring van (proud owner) for a night on the town. The one who ordered the spicy bean burrito (with extra beans) and three beers decides he needs an unplanned emergency trip to the bathroom (in transit) on the return ride home. No matter how you see it, either it will be an embarrassing moment or a quasi hazmat situation. No thanks Hymer

[@Ultramobility]

LOL - you viewers and your comments are cracking me up! I love your honesty and humor! thanks for sharing.

[@stanw909]

That's an " Evacuation Situation " . For sure . Imagine the driver pulling over , having everyone jump out , standing by the side of the road . Waiting for for the evacuation to be over . It would make a great Fabreeze advertisement .

[@siberiantiger3917]

A spade is a must then - fortunately, it doesn't diminish the smallish cargo carrying capacity by much. Just make sure the hole you are digging isn't somebody's lawn.

[@jeffvpoole]

You give the most entertaining and detailed reviews. Always a great joy to experience. LOL! Keep 'em coming!!!

[@Ultramobility]

you know I'm going to Jeff! Patreon will allow me to continue to provide high quality reviews on a regular basis. Thanks for watching and continuing to be a subscriber!

[@dougmanck4149]

Thanks much for the human model shots. It really helps to get a feel for the various spaces. I never realized 6'2" was considered a giant by RV standards until I stepped into a couple of class B van bathrooms. Also huge difference between a 74" bed and a 70" bed for many of us. Love the Loft but they really need to have some form of power ventilation, looks like room on the rear roof section in this 2.0 length.

[@Ultramobility]

I noticed the extra space on the rear roof as well. don't know why they haven't utilized it for some sort of ventilation...

[@colormedubious4747]

Two major issues with the loft: 1) There are a few campgrounds in popular parks that do not allow soft-sided RVs (such as Fishing Bridge in Yellowstone) and 2) heating and cooling will suffer throughout the motor home with the loft deployed. I'd also be concerned with the long-term durability of the fabric; you cannot stow it unless it's dry or you'll get mold and rot. Other than all of that, it's fine for a family of midgets.

[@Riker-eq2yv]

I didn’t know that some campgrounds didn’t allow soft sided RV’s so I’m glad you posted that detail. And far as a family of midgets,, that was funny

[@Ultramobility]

lol that's a great mini review Colorme Dubious. I need to have you on as a guest co-host! We could be like Paul Hollywood and Prue on the Great British Bakeoff!

[@susanwes]

Another stellar review! Haha colorme Dubious! Good points--I was already feeling envious of the pop-top, knowing we won’t end up going that route. I feel much better about that now.

[@YTYTYTY7]

Today I saw it in person. The top bed is actually very spacious for one adult. So, one sleeping up and one down is actually excellent for two campers. The lack of ventilation in the washroom is concerning though.

[@Madmanmarque]

The added weight of the loft also leaves little room for cargo. Makes the added space moot.

[@BillFerris]

Wow, this is a much nicer version of the Volkswagen Campmobile. I can totally envision families of 4-5 buying or renting the 2.0 loft edition. When I was growing up in northern CA in the 70's, we had the Campmobile with the pop-up. Mom & Dad slept in back. My older brother slept in the pop-up. (lucky him) I was in the cot across the driver and front passenger seats and my younger brother slept in the galley. I'm sure our fridge was smaller in volume than the Aktiv's and I'm certain we had no microwave. This is such an upgrade! Personally, for the solo RV'ing I'm likely to do, the 1.0 seems a better fit.

[@Ultramobility]

I love your story bill. thanks for sharing that. made my day.

[@vickielane7387]

Like your new style Neil:) Don't like that rig though but people do... Thanks for polling you do too#

[@Ultramobility]

Vickie - glad that as an early subscriber you like the new style. me too. also glad to see that the polling is working. love the community on this channel!

[@vickielane7387]

@@Ultramobility Can't wait to see 2019 comparisons! Where are the 2019 PW's....

[@Riker-eq2yv]

I've been waiting for this one before I purchase one of these Class B Vans,​, Thanks for posting!

[@Ultramobility]

you're welcome steven!

[@lynwoodhurston7762]

Ditto, Steve.

[@alliejr]

Love the new review format. Showing how you fit in the seats, on the bed and in the bathroom are extremely useful. Keep it up. How to improve? In addition to your usual 360 camera views, some prime lens footage or stills would help since the fisheye of the 360 camera distorts some views.

[@Ultramobility]

yeah need to upgrade the 360 camera to a professional grade one!

[@gosmall.livelarge]

Love the new format. Very different. Very informative. I do miss seeing you in your PW though. Great content as always. Congrats on 16K followers!

[@Ultramobility]

thank you so much! next stop 50k! glad that you like the new format. thanks for letting me know.

[@geoffryallan7261]

I'll buy it - do you spend all of your time doing this? A Passion? - Well done, you cover a lot of details and you speak clearly and articulate. Keep up the good work.

[@Ultramobility]

it is my full time job. thank you!

[@lynwoodhurston7762]

Great review!! I toyed with the idea of the loft edition but never saw where solar or AC was talked about. You answered everything thing I questioned. We're going with the Aktiv 2.0 with the foldaway bed in the rear! Thank you!! I also forwarded your channel to some friends for them and their parents considering Class Bs!! #YouPuttheUltraInOutMobility 👍🏾😁

[@Ultramobility]

hi there. there is no solar on the roof - I edited that out. you can opt for a portable solar panel. the AC is mounted under the coach and not on the roof.

[@lynwoodhurston7762]

@@Ultramobility Yes. I saw you had the portable solar option up in the check list. It was a very thorough review as far as my opinion. I didn't know about the A.C. undermount. 👍🏾🤓

[@chadmckinnon6294]

It's beautiful. I think you're going to love it!

[@RobMarshall2012]

Great review, almost bought one at the last Pomona RV Show. Hope to see someone make a similar family oriented Class B RV.

[@Ultramobility]

me too! love that floorplan!

[@askcuibono]

Great video review! Was it just me or was anyone else shocked by the price of the Microwave Oven (shown at around the 6:37 mark in the video) 😃

[@Ultramobility]

I know right?! $100k+ for a microwave. must be good. ;-)

[@Primogen1]

I wish they would put the TV in the back lounge. It's current position up front is horrible. No lighting or heating/cooling in the loft is not good and could have been included easily. That small microwave is useless and a cassette toilet....really Hymer?? I am so mixed about this van because with better thinking they could have knocked it out of the park. Great review!!

[@Ultramobility]

Let's hope they listen to you on the second round!

[@mattm5132]

Great video! I would add the following to the list of things Hymer needs to resolve, in addition to the lack of fantastic fan: bring back the front passenger armrest, cup holders on the back, and fix the lack of additional AC ducts.

[@Ultramobility]

I hope they're reading these comment!

[@1kobara]

Another great review Neil! Thanks a bunch and fun travels.

[@Ultramobility]

thanks for watching JayKay!

[@20cbwestiesden50]

I am going to pick up my Hymer 2.0 with Murphy bed tomorrow. I was finally able to get rid of my Thor Axis by traded it in at Hershey RV show last week with a fair deal. At the show, I had to ask a Pleasure-Way Rep for direction to Hymer shop, and he was not thrilled. He told me once I saw Hymer's quality, I will come back to them. I never did. It is the simple, functional, and clean design and advanced features that attracted me to Hymer. I do, however, agree with him that Hymer does use cheapper materials here and there. But Having travel 12000 miles in the past 18 months for 2 cross country trips in a poorly built RV, and worried about something might fail every other day, at least I am experienced enough to tell that the Hymer construct seems sturdy. On day 3 of my last trip, the toilet flush paddle popped, and I had to kneel on the floor and use my hand to operate the toilet for the remaining 5000+ miles of my journey. I am sure Hymer will show Its imperfections in my future trips. But with 6-year warranty, I don't really care.

[@Ultramobility]

lol - love your purchase story! thank you so much for sharing. every rv has problems that need to be shaken out. you're right the quality on the Aktiv is going to be higher than on the Axis for sure. yes the PW would have higher quality but you're also going to pay for it. so it all depends like you say on your comfort level and what's important to you. well said.

[@Surreal6969]

Thanks to your honesty, u are greatly blessed and this van is for certain people.

[@Ultramobility]

thank you james69.

[@Netscorer]

Hymer could have easily put fantastic fan at the back of the coach above sofa. They chose not to. They have not a single fan in the Loft edition - NONE! Their idea of ventilation is running underfloor AC in fan mode. The problem is that there is single small vent for that AC and it’s located at the bottom of the front bench 2” above the floor. So you have restricted air circulation with very little volume of fresh air being pumped into the coach. And when you want to run AC to cool it, cold air does not mix up with hot air at the top, so only your floor is being cooled. Until Hymer chooses to fix air circulation in Loft, it’s not even a shortlist - it’s a strong NOT RECOMMENDED. They need to add additional air vents for AC at the head level - that would require running air hoses inside the cabinetry and potentially additional fan to assist AC pushing the air at this height. They also need either to replace sunroof with fan or put fantastic fan at the rear of the coach. The Aktiv Loft is a fantastic coach, but we need to wait for the second iteration before recommending it to the public.

[@Ultramobility]

dima - really appreciate your sharing this comment! well stated and I know other potential buyers will appreciate it.

[@marcdsh6998]

Hi Neil, thanks for a great review, love the new format. Indeed great for a family with a couple of kids but considering the temps we had this summer I think the loft might get pretty hot. I'm 6'2'' so a bit small on the bed size. Not a fan of cassette toilet. Will stick to my Simplicity for the time being.

[@Ultramobility]

yep this van is not for someone of your height unfortunately :-(

[@ednapuckett1042]

No problem. I’ll be bothering you with more questions as I get closer to making my decision.

[@alaskandww]

Like the format, it is grea. On the Aktiv, probably not the rear lounge, but rear fold down bed for the added storage. If I can’t get an Alpa Tandem in the US I am going the Aktiv and maybe even tow a GT for the longer vacations with 3 adults who snore.

[@Ultramobility]

glad you like the new format alaskandww! thanks for letting me know.

[@rodthompson5381]

Thanks Neil for showing the driver's seat legroom.

[@Ultramobility]

you're more than welcome! thanks to viewers for suggesting it. it will become a regular part of my reviews.

[@rodthompson5381]

Ultramobility Yeah I was the one that emailed you that request a couple weeks ago. You rock my friend.

[@stevenchen1338]

Came across this review after a month of watching your videos. This seems like the perfect van for my family (2 adults + 2 kids who are going to be adults way too soon). Too bad Hymer is no more. Is there another van with this amount of flexibility that's still being made?

[@patrickirish8110]

Another home run! I've been waiting for a more thorough and "real lfe" review of the Loft Edition and, as always, you've delivered. The lack of some sort of ventilation in the bathroom is odd, to say the least, as it not only would be useful for obvious reasons but additionally to help vent cooking fumes as the Aktiv doesn't come with a range hood. I also wish the side windows in the rear were larger, but with the rear screen at least some ventilation could be had (weather-permitting). In any case, I love what Hymer has done and the Loft Addition is highly appealing. Thanks again for providing us with such a solid review.

[@Ultramobility]

Patrick, I'm glad that ou appreciate the reviews that I do. I try not to do the same reviews that sponsored channels, or dealers or the manufacturer do. I try to point out things that you, my viewers have asked for over and over again.

[@tradersato]

Please get a hold of a 19’ airstream on a Sprinter chasis for one of your proper reviews.. 👍🏼

[@Ultramobility]

I put it in the polls but it didn't do well. maybe i'll poll it again.

[@ArteagaProductions]

I've been looking everywhere with one just like this, and I can't find them! I want the sofa bed in the back and the loft!

[@gregmoore8098]

Hi Neil, Great review. Maybe I missed it, but I did not hear anything about the missing solar panels. I was told that because of the weight limitations due to the fiberglass top that they could not be added. That's a big problem. Can you confirm this? I think if they really want this to work they need to put this on the Stronger Mercedes chassis that has the dual wheels. Yes, it would be longer. But they then they could add stronger struts and add the needed solar pannels. let's discuss the disadvantages of a Pop Top model. 1st Rain/mold: Yes, it will repel water but if the rain is heavy it will enter your rig. If not air dried long enough you will get mold (ask tent trailer owners). 2nd privacy: light shadows or noise. If you have ever stayed in a tent you know what I'm talking about. 3rd Stealth: The biggest reason why people go to a Class B is that they can camp anywhere. Use the Pop Top feature and you lose that option. 4th limited or no room for solar pannels: Hymer's big plus was to have enough solar to "assist" in powering the air conditioner. Not only does the Pop Top take that away it now takes longer to cool and heat the unit (again ask anyone with a tent trailer).

[@Ultramobility]

hi greg. I cut out the talk about the solar panels and instead just put in graphics that say that there is an option 250w of solar on a portable panel. not sure why hymer couldn't mount the solar on the rear part of the van where there is no loft. probably weight related.

[@getcraig55]

Next one should be Winnebago travato 59GL.. jus want to know lil more about the the solar and lithium batteries power

[@getcraig55]

For the Hymer Aktiv 2.0.. I would avoid it for a family camper van.. now for a couple, sure.. keeping occupied in this will be a challenge.. i would have to rearrange this layout a little

[@Ultramobility]

thanks for sharing this no left turns. it's truly a head scratcher. rvs are in campgrounds with people close by and yet they put in these noisy generators.

[@Ultramobility]

thanks craig for sharing your thoughts! I think this is a great family camper van but the lack of storage in this layout and the smallish refrigerator would prove a challenge.

[@getcraig55]

Ultramobility yeah, a few changes.. than we talking..

[@Ultramobility]

I might have to get that app and do the db rating for rvs that are parked outdoors. thanks for that!

[@ran6110]

Great video! I like the showing sizes of things, it really helps! As a single rider, I don't have much use for this Aktiv version but I can see families and groups might really like it! I would be more than a little concerned about the lack of a vent fan in the bathroom for the obvious reasons... After renting an Aktiv I've actually gotten over my dislike of the cassette toilet and some of the reason was what you mentioned about being able to rotate it. That makes for more standing room when needed! Again, great video and I really like the new format!

[@Ultramobility]

hey there ranTrek! glad to hear that you rented an aktiv and that by renting you changed some of your opinions. I recommend that others do the same. really glad that you like the new format - me too!

[@ran6110]

Ultramobility what’s funny is I asked on Facebook about the use case and more single riders already have or are planning to buy one! They love the openness of the rig.

[@benvernick]

This was a fun review Neil, great idea to use yourself as a model, really get a feel for the size. A little disappointed that the rear sofa is uncomfortable. Had hoped they might come out with a 1.0 model with a sofa bed, but if it’s that uncomfortable I’d probably stick with the rear bed. Any idea why the jump seat in this loft edition is smaller? Just curious....

[@Ultramobility]

hey ben the jump seat is the same size as in the normal aktiv. glad that you like the new review format. I think it packs a lot more info into the same length and the production value is higher.

[@midnite22767]

Great review. I would rather they had cut off roof entirely and put on a fiberglass cap which allowed for the bed to come down on gas struts instead of a roof top tent. The fiberglass top would provide greater height inside the van as well. I also can't wait for the new European bed flare "slide outs" that I'm beginning to see that allow those over 6' to comfortably sleep East/West. If I wanted a roof top penthouse tent I would get a Sportsmobile, at least with SM I can get that in any of the major three van brands and in 4x4, albeit for way over the Aktiv's price point.

[@Ultramobility]

thanks for sharing those thoughts! I do like the idea of a rooftop tent... interesting.

[@gosman949]

Neil, as you channel grows, the RV companies will come calling. I'm also a passionate photographer, and I have seen the photography channels become distorted with companies flying the channeled photographers to exotic places to review their new equipment. While the photographers, say they are unbiased, I can't help but think that their credibility is compromised. While I don't think the RV industry is as sophisticated with their marketing as the Japanese photography companies, I do think you will be faced with some decisions down the road. You need to go to the RV shows, and with your channel, get access to their products. It will be interesting to see how you develop your channel as it gets larger!

[@Ultramobility]

Yeah I'm already being approached. One idea I have is to go the route of patrons via Patreon in order to keep myself and my channel free from RV sponsorship. Keep it into the hands of you, the viewers. I really do appreciate all the support and love I get especially from old time fans like yourself! One thing's for sure - the channel's going places and it's having an impact. From this video Hymer emailed me and said that they're taking my critique seriously and looking at ways of improving upon the things that I pointed out. So that's something!

[@markdaniels70]

That's the Class B for me..... I'm with you the living arrangement flexibility with the loft area / front lounge / and rear sofa is unbeatable..... agree, the only flaw is the bathroom fan....great reviews.....love your page...😀

[@heatherlucero2530]

I’d still buy it. I’d figure out how to put a window or mushroom fan or something in the bathroom. Less storage equals less stuff to accumulate 😊 great review!👍🏻

[@Ultramobility]

hey heather. I tend to agree with you regarding storage. people think they need all that space but then end up filling it with stuff they never use. my parents own a big class A and said they just lug around all this weight of stuff in their garage that they never use.

[@brianwhitaker6040]

Thanks Neil love the new format. Hymer have a great warranty they obviously stand by their product. price is good to

[@Ultramobility]

glad you like the new format brian - another one coming out next week in the same format!

[@brianwhitaker6040]

Good stuff

[@Turk_2023]

Instead of a door on the bathroom what if it had a curtain on tracks that extends into the walk way some to give more room. I have seen it on other vans, the shower pan is removable and stores in the shower when not used. Saves weight from the door being gone too.. Also I forget if this has a sink or not, but it could be a fold down sink to save space. Not sure why there has to be a cassette toilet in this day and age.

[@Sushigrl1029]

Thank you for describing how much effort is needed to lift the roof. Definitely like the lack of sugar coating :) I'm not very good on ladders (total klutz) and having to walk up and push would be a disaster. I like the 1.0 with the garage and ability to put the bed up.

[@missbehavin8673]

The Hymer is very popular in my market among "fair-weather camping hipsters". We're already taking orders for the pop top version.

[@Ultramobility]

are you in sales?

[@missbehavin8673]

yes I am

[@Ultramobility]

michelle - thanks for watching my channel. where are you out of and what dealer out of curiosity?

[@missbehavin8673]

neil - you're welcome. I work for Blue Dog RV in Oregon

[@cassiebrady4637]

Thank you for review it gives me a idea of what i want

[@Ultramobility]

thanks for watching!

[@daveking5576]

Good, but incomplete review on key features in the Hymer 2.0 Loft. It would be very helpful if you would update your review to correct your admission about having to lift the loft (rather than simply using the built-in lifts) and to include BOTH the pros and cons of the undermount AC. The undermount AC is a bit unique and worth some commentary. The pros are noteworthy to me: quieter operation while inside the coach, no large AC box on the roof (which is essential for the loft function), and lower overall height. Keep up the good work!

[@benitorose8554]

Looks great exactly what I was thinking about when hopefully I'm ready to purchase one 😀

[@Ultramobility]

You should!

[@jss27560]

Like the new reviews, clean and fresh.

[@Ultramobility]

many thanks for letting me know Jeffrey!

[@johnpuccetti9383]

One of the best features of an RV over a tent is the noise reduction. I think the loft would be noisy in any campground.

[@Ultramobility]

noisier still will be the kids up there!

[@cliveneilands1449]

So glad i live in europe as the Adria 640 sgx pop top is amazing

[@calendarwhiteknight2938]

Your video had a note to Hymer. They must be watching because they addressed your issue: they figured out how to accommodate a larger refrigerator. Its in a their latest model, the Aktiv S, built on the Sprinter platform. RV Lifestyle does a walk through of the new model in their latest video (at ~10 minutes in).

[@Ultramobility]

yep this model has been available in Europe for some time but honestly I can't see it doing well here.

[@jimbotheassclown]

It's not really addressed if it on a different platform.

[@alexancheta9562]

this review is perfect as it gives me a peek into how it all fits. Your use of your body as a scale helps me assess its livability if I decide to fulltime in it. Based on the dimensions and features, I would consider but not so much as to shortlist it. The lack of ventilation in the loft is a little bit disappointing.

[@Ultramobility]

glad you approve of the new review format! thanks for letting me know

[@elizabethpankewycz6160]

Hi Neil- we love your channel-thanks for the realistic demo today.I wonder what the incidence of leaks developing over time Is historically with Pop-Top camper vans. Does the sky light also House the Fantastic Fan, and does that operate with a remote? Other thoughts unrelated to video. You asked during a live stream show what we think of your 360 videos. I had no clue how Much effort 360 videos take to create. I find if given a choice, I always watch the regular format rather than 360. Somehow ,I find theses hard To view. To my mind things look a little distorted, and I am aware this type of filming makes me a little nauseous! I am sure I am the exception ,but you asked for feedback. I am surprised to find I enjoy the use of the drone in your videos, you do try to change things up and I appreciate that. Ideas for future videos- and direct me to what to watch if you have already been there and done that. Van maintenance , what, when, the hidden costs of ownership and how difficult it is to find service. What differences In Maintenance costs are there between the Dodge Promaster chaises and the Mercedes. How about Tips and tricks for parking in urban areas for class B vans-I did watch the video where you parallel parked your Ascent, how hard is that with your Roadtrek?. Perhaps others would share on a livestream chat their stories of traveling and parking their rigs in the urban jungle. When you start using the vehicle as a people mover, as you pointed out this Roadtrek has the potential for- how do you find parking when you get to that urban event ? Do the 144/ 170 class B vans fit in parking garages? Do garages charge more if they fit? You do a great job, seems there is so much to learn about class B vans! Finally, we went to the Hersey RV show and walked through an Airstream Interstate 19. Would love to see you compare this to the Pleasure way Ascent as soon as you can find a”19” available for walk through. Thanks for sticking to class B Vans, you are doing a great job!

[@Ultramobility]

Hi Elizabeth thank you so much. 1) we'll have to see if leaks develop over time or not. 2) there is no powered rooftop ventilation anywhere in the van including the skylight. regarding parking - it was one of the main reasons why I downsized from my 23 foot roadtrek to my 19 foot ascent. parking was a lot more challenging with the longer roadtrek. now, I parallel park with ease mainly because I use my ascent as a daily driver and have gotten used to it. it is much easier to find marking for my shorter ascent. I could not fit my longer roadtrek into standard street parking without taking up two spaces nor could I fit into a crowded parking lot.

[@daveking5576]

Your reasonable criticisms of the cassette toilet rarely mention any possible benefits. To be fair to Hymer, to the Europeans who seem okay with it (and to your readers)--how about including some benefits? Apart from the obvious but manageable unpleasantry, and the very limited capacity, how about these as mentionable benefits: The removable cassette gives more dumping locations, it allows for disassembly in the event you need to investigate for odor problems/clogs and really clean if needed (anyone ever try that on a blank tank?), and the ability to double your capacity by carrying a spare cassette. Is there space under the coach whereby one might fabricate a custom storage location to strap a spare cassette? The portability of a cassette allows for this kind of adaptability.

[@alejandrowenfu9647]

Thank you very much for your video, excellent presentation better than the Sellers, super didactic and it helps us decide, I love it.

[@Ultramobility]

Glad it was helpful!

[@stanw909]

My family will tell you that no fan in the bathroom while I'm using it is a deal breaker . I have no idea what they're talking about . It does seem that they could have put one of those small pop up/out fans in the van wall . Great video as usual .

[@Ultramobility]

TMI! lol thanks for sharing!

[@vintagetruckers]

A couple notes from an actual owner: - The loft opens on it's own with only a slight push. It opens and closes easier if any doors or windows are open, but you don't need to walk it up the ladder like shown in this video. Just a slight push and off it goes thanks to the struts. I am 6'0" - The bed is moderately comfortable, but more comfortable than I thought. - No coverage of the A/C, in the south, the bottom A/C is totally insufficient for use in the daytime. It's really bad. - No ventilation does indeed suck. - The seating for me is just fine driving for 10+ hours. You can recline just fine in mine and it's plush enough to be comfortable over long drives. - The OCC includes full tanks and 4 or 5 adults (I forget which). According to Hymer. - The jump seat in the loft is the same as the 2.0. - I had no problem taking as shower upright and I'm 6 foot tall. I would also wait until the second iteration of this. However, as an owner that's lived in it, some of the things I found here could use some clarification. -

[@RonZacharski]

Wow. Thanks for the post. That was way informative! Good to know about the A/C

[@Ultramobility]

robert thank you soooooo much for sharing your thoughts as an actual owner! I really appreciate it. didn't know about the loft lifting on its own. thanks for that. the salesperson didn't point that out unfortunately.

[@patm5483]

Great video one thing to consider is the warranty will be soon covered by Thor industries as well as the build quality components etc.

[@Ultramobility]

yep indeed they will tho Hymer has announced that their warranty will remain the same.

[@theShamrockShepherdWagon]

I hope you do some class C comparisons. Particularly between a Winnebago View 24J and a Coachmen Prism 2150. I am considering these two because I decided my favorite B or B+ is just a little too small for a long adventure.

[@Ultramobility]

did you vote in the poll on my community tab! I have a poll for what classes of RVs I should review. go forth and vote!

[@JohnDoe-zz7on]

Excellent review. Thanks

[@crystaldwfan]

I like the cassette toliet feature and the 2 lounges. It's unfortunate that it has such a small fridge and its not 4 season, hopefully in the future they will change that.

[@Ultramobility]

thanks for sharing your wishes DoctorWhoGeek. I've invited Hymer to read these comments.

[@tradersato]

You said six 3point seatbelts are available but in the graphic you superimposed over the rear sofa, you wrote 7. Good video but you know I love your 360 vids much more.. keep em coming regardless!

[@Ultramobility]

great catch. yep the graphic is wrong. it does have 7 seatbelts but one is a lap restraint.

[@richardnorris7940]

Nice honest review. I like this style better than your 360 views. Thanks for the great videos

[@Ultramobility]

richard thanks for chiming in on that. I like this style as well and thank you for letting me know!

[@motorcycleguy73]

Great review as usual. Dodge has always been known for not having a whole lot of room in the driver's seat area I don't know why they can't get that worked out. Also most people aren't going to be worried about the kids or grandkids that's why they bought this was to get away from them if they wanted to be with the kids or grandkids they would have stayed home. After a week or two in one of these Vans with grandkids or kids you'll be losing your mind.

[@Ultramobility]

lol wrt the kids and grandkids - well said!

[@balahmay]

A couple questions I have on this one: Is there any provision for solar, and what is the OCCC? Actually I think it would be good to include the OCCC in all your reviews. Showing how that top goes up was very helpful to understand this one better. I would not want the couch bed but I can see where it would work well for a family with several children. Thanks again for your reviews!

[@Ultramobility]

There's a $750 portable solar panel upgrade. the occc is at the end of the video and is 1300lbs. I do include the occc in all newer reviews now :-) thanks for watching!

[@IMP3TIGO]

Hopefully this (and similar models like the Winnebago Solis) sells like hotcakes so that more manufacturers start putting in pop top roofs in their sprint class B vans so you can finally get sleeping for four in an Airstream interstate or similar. Time for them to wake up and realize that families want RVs too now, not just boomers, and that means they need sleeping for four.

[@Tygerlady99]

Great review!! Too bad the sides of the loft are canvas because that can be cut open easily to gain access. Kind of scares me because I wouldn't feel secure.

[@richardd.4421]

Neil, what is it that prevents the driver's seat from reclining more? From the video it looks like the table would be the culprit but it also looks as if it folds down. Great review really enjoy your channel

[@Ultramobility]

it's the table behind. you're right the table could be lowered to allow the front seat to move back further.

[@johnmarshall3484]

Good to know. I'm 6'3" and this would be a requirement.

[@a.sontoloyo6887]

For the toilet/bathroom with no window. One may regret when the moldy fungus start showing up after a month used. Thank you.

[@thomasharrison2741]

I love the new "bed planking" still shots to show size of sleeping compartments. #BedPlanking

[@Ultramobility]

lol #BedPlanking! I love it. thanks for that!

[@davegarth]

This looks so much like my 1986 VW Westfalia that I owned way back when. Many of the same advantages and disadvantages.

[@Ultramobility]

please share your ownership experience!!

[@davegarth]

Ultramobility I had a lot of great camping experiences with my Westy. It was pleasant to drive, only 16 feet long and easy to maneuver, but underpowered, and only got about 14 mpg. I was young and coming from tent camping, so I thought at the time the camping experience was great. In retrospect, it was pretty basic. There was no hot water, only one interior light, a tiny absorption refrigerator that, because of the confined installation, never worked right, and only a portapotti. (No grey or black water tanks; a bucket was supposed to be used to collect the grey water.) You had to be athletic and strong to raise the roof and to climb to to the upper bunk. The “mattress” up there was only two inches of light weight foam. At night it was dark and cold up there, but, there was lots of ventilation. It could get very warm in the daytime because the fiberglass roof had no insulation. The “downstairs” bed was thicker, but much smaller. Many parks in bear areas treated it like a tent trailer and prohibited inside food storage. The quality of the workmanship in the conversion, done by Westfalia in Germany, was fantastic and would put most current day domestic RVs to shame. I would caution anyone considering the Hymer to carefully access their own physicality and temperature tolerance before buying one.

[@hectorcervantes5260]

that's what I call a review and nice motorhome

[@usernameisusername]

Love this format. Great review.

[@Ultramobility]

Chris, thanks for letting me know!

[@solodad]

Tks for this review, I'm not interrested by this model, too expensive for what we have, no ventilation and no headroom in the bathroom, a small fridge and where do we put the extra one that we have to carry if we go for a longer period of time, and it's the same problem for some models of all class B the heigth under the rear sofa, but it's OK for a lot of rv'ers that use it for a weekend. See you next time.

[@Ultramobility]

claude, thanks for watching and sharing. i'm getting a feeling that there are others that feel the same as you do by reading the comments!

[@boorayin2773]

As a current '97 Eurovan T4 owner who's been watching LOTS of videos as I try to figure out which of the MANY Class B options would suit us, I have to say the pop-up on this is a real turn-off for me. I was thinking before I watched the video that it was going to offer some version of a lofted ceiling as it does in the Eurovan (when the bed is slid towards the back), but that little hatch in the ceiling to access the loft befuddles me. I've asked many a time how easily some senior traveler could get my top up that also raises on gas struts - this one is even more difficult with the ladder shuffle technique that you demonstrated and is an accident waiting to happen, in my opinion! The addition of even this poorly designed bathroom is a step up over the Eurovan, but what appeared to be a lack of an AC that I'm missing on my Eurovan is a minus. The concerns below about mold and rot are pretty unfounded - if I put it down after getting rained on, it dries fine and I've not had any issues. In the end, I'm 6' tall and this camper is a non-starter for me from both driving and sleeping perspectives. The search continues! :)

[@Ultramobility]

I made a mistake on raising the loft - it is on gas struts. the dealer failed to mention how to operate it and so I "walked it up" which isn't necessary.

[@boorayin2773]

So how was it meant to be raised, curiously? And I didn't even write about how to get it down once you get it up there - some sort of hang on and jump off the ladder technique? I kinda hate how little space is up top on my camper, this one at least has more room - but that little hatch really bothers me regardless. It's kinda like bunking in a submarine (which I've done).

[@colegere]

Thanks for the review!

[@Ultramobility]

thanks for watching colen!

[@solartramp1745]

I really like Hymer, I just wish that the sleeping space was bigger for tall people and there was more cargo carrying capacity overall.

[@Ultramobility]

yep me too! maybe they'll address on version 2!

[@MrBaastardo]

Hello Neil .. ThanX 4 a great review .. If opting 4 the front optional bed 850$ .. Where do U stow it when not in use ?

[@jang.313]

Am I missing something. Does this unit have an awning?

[@Ultramobility]

yes sorry. it does have an awning standard but it isn't legless.

[@PlaneJaned]

I’m so torn, because I love the loft bed, but there are some serious drawbacks to this RV. Bathroom vent: I wonder if they could put a small vent with a fan on the side of the RV. Maybe where that cubby is to the left of the medicine cabinet mirror. And why wouldn’t they replace the skylight with a Fantastic or Maxx Air Fan? Under mount A/C: I’ve read these aren’t very good. Hopefully, I read incorrectly or technology has improved. Small refrigerator: Maybe they could decrease the width of the drawers to the left of the fridge and put in refrigerator/freezer drawers. I actually wish RV companies would start offering drawer style fridges. Solar: I like using the car’s engine as a generator (maybe Hymer should look into upgrading the alternator like in the Travato with lithium), but I still want solar, and a portable solar panel just isn’t enough. Do you know if it’s possible to put a flex solar panel on the loft roof? Layout: I could totally go for this layout even though I generally prefer a more open layout with fixed beds. I generally don’t like back lounge couch/beds, but with the loft bed, you don’t (assuming you’re traveling w/o kids) have to make up a bed every night. And sleeping in the loft bed looks so nice. It’s like upgraded tent camping. The only change I would make is adding some lighting and usb outlets. It’s just a shame that the beds are all so short. Unless I’m mistaken, the longest bed is 71” long. I wonder if Hymer could put in flares like in the Revel. Thanks for another great review!

[@Ultramobility]

PlaneJaned, thank you for sharing your thoughts. I would think that there's enough room for flex solar panels on the roof in the rear.

[@michaelamster5768]

I thinking of buying one of these few remaining units since the plant shut down... Have you heard any feedback about the roofs? do they leak? is that a concern in heavy rain? problems with mildew? Thanks ultramobility!

[@guoseph]

I may have missed it but how do you get AC in the coach part without a rooftop unit? I like the amount of seating/sleeping spaces they have managed to squeeze into this van. Can you comment on the actual comfort of the rear couch (similar to your own RV) while driving down the road? From my experience any seats behind the rear axle in a full size van can be quite bouncy and uncomfortable while underway. Really enjoy your detailed reviews, keep up the good work.

[@Ultramobility]

hi alex - the AC is mounted under the RV. there's some debate as to how efficient under mounted AC units are so I'll have to look into that. The rear couch is definitely not as comfortable to sit on and ride on in the Aktiv as compared to the Ascent.

[@MyChannel-vm6dw]

Neil another crazy good video from you excellent I'm actively looking for something just like this the deal-breaker for me is the cassette toilet though. Is there anything else that comes close I'm looking for something I can just take for the day with one overnight with a group of six. Also is there any dedicated storage for the ladder and the optional bed when you're fully stocked with 6 people?

[@Ultramobility]

hi there! thanks! you may want to try out the cassette toilet. honestly some black tanks like mine in my ascent are only a little over twice the tank size so you're going to have to look for a dump station if you have more than a couple people using it. at least with the cassette you can dump at more places. regarding the ladder it stows in the open space above the cab. the mattress for the front bed doesn't stow any place convenient in the sofa bed configuration. in the rear flip down bed layout you could stow the front mattress back there.

[@adamroberts6935]

What alternatives are there for those focused on how many can sleep? I want a van that sleeps 5 and dont want to go to a full sized RV. Help!

[@dr.brianwright2030]

Great review! We went to a show in Atlanta on 9-15-18 and viewed the Activ 2.0 and Travato 59k. The rear bed is a bit short in the Activ. I'll need to sleep at an angle (I'm 6'2"). We also noticed the driver and passenger seats in the Activ were considerable more comfortable than in the Travato. The functionality of the Activ versus the Travato won us over. Please keep the reviews coming!

[@Ultramobility]

brian thanks for sharing your experiences at the Hershey show! I wish the seat on the promaster could move back further. did you find it comfortable at 6'2"? I'm 5'10" and I guess i'm used to my sprinter seat which goes back further than on the promaster.

[@lynwoodhurston7762]

Now, I wish I went to the show. Went I looked at the dealers that were going to be at Cobb show, none indicated they were Aktiv dealers. So, I didn't go. Missed it by that much.

[@dr.brianwright2030]

The driver's seat was a bit tight. We are also going to consider sprinter chassis floor plans too. We currently have a Roadtrek 200 Versatile.

[@RonZacharski]

Can you say more about the seat difference between the Activ and Travato? I thought they were the exact same Promaster seats. Thanks

[@gerrynightingale9045]

*There is NO 'UNDERHOOD GENERATOR' involved* *There is a specialized engine-driven ALTERNATOR that weighs apprx. 80-lbs. that serves to 'quick-charge' the power-system*

[@montanasojourn]

Good review. This RV is not for me, but I can see a small family would like.

[@Ultramobility]

yep great for families.

[@monkey4402]

I have a question and I know it might be late but do you know what the link is for this class b because every other website goes to the loft edition.

[@Sonnyboy346]

Thanks for another great review, Neil. This van is not for us, so I'll refrain from specific comments about the unit. What do you think about Thor acquiring Hymer/Roadtrek? Can't be good news for a company already suffering from quality issues.

[@Ultramobility]

yeah that's my thoughts. also wondering what will happen to the roadtrek brand since thor also owns airstream. I suppose the mid and lower level lines will be kept and the sprinter lines will be eliminated or their tech will be incorporated into the insterstates.

[@Sonnyboy346]

What ever happened to the series that you were going to do on the trip with your daughter? Saw only one.

[@gosman949]

Oh No! Tell me it is not true! Thor acquired Hymer/Roadtrek? This is not good news!

[@BillFerris]

@@gosman949 Thor acquired the complete Erwin Hymer Group, including their European, Asian and North American operations (Hymer, Roadtrek, Carado, Sunlight). The deal gives Thor a much stronger presence in Europe and Asia. I'm new to RV'ing so am only aware of Thor's reputation for poor product quality by reputation. That said, Hymer appears to have a well-established reputation in Europe as a quality manufacturer. Something's gotta give and hopefully it's Thor making an active effort the preserve the Hymer reputation. I'm with Neil in thinking there may be at least some degree of product consolidation in the North American market.

[@Ultramobility]

hey john. I did have enough good video to do a video unfortunately. I took a ton of video but after reviewing all of it I just couldn't find enough to make a video worth asking for your time to view but I appreciate your interest.

[@perdidoatlantic]

I like your attention to detail tall people would be concerned with. Suggestion: a vid with class b units for people over 6 ft tall. I only know the Ford chassis is taller. Any other choices?

[@Ultramobility]

class b+ and c are generally taller inside and also have longer beds and more space in the bathrooms.

[@perdidoatlantic]

Ultramobility Thank you. I know the Ram chassis is lower. I bump my head in the middle where the ac is positioned. The Ford chassis is higher.

[@dianeedmondson4301]

Thank you for the reviews, I find them helpful and very informative.

[@Ultramobility]

diane thank you for watching!

[@SirCharles246]

Good review I like this

[@Ultramobility]

Thanks!

[@11031]

Okay, can someone break down power systems a little more indepth. Im trying to compare the hymers battery with something like the travato. The travato has a 48 volt battery with 8700 watts of lithium on board, and underhood generator that recharges the system in an hour and a half. The Hymer has two 6 volt AGM batteries with option of Lithium 400 upgrade (is that the watt size? i couldn't find any more info on hymers website). If so i believe you'd be running the underhood generator constantly on the hymer. And with no solar panels on the loft (im pretty sure), this would be way behind the travato in terms of power. And one would have to keep their hymer engine running all night to get A/C. This is impractical to me. As is the ductless loft, pressure cooker any one? I dont know how you would control humidity without having a fantastic fan, little cross breeze unlikely, so youd have to run a dehumidifier on power, which this system would struggle with. Electronics without the power to run them don't provide any purpose to the consumer. For this reason, I'm skeptical of the hymer and its battery capabilities.

[@Ultramobility]

I believe you can upgrade the Aktiv to 1600 amp hours of lithium which would make it a larger battery bank than on the Travato. Watt hours is simply calculated as volts times amps so 400 amp hours times 13.6 volts = 5,440 watt hours. i'm not sure how the Aktiv's bms works but if it allows you to boast the battery voltage to say 14.3 volts like my pleasureway does then you could store 14.3 * 400 ah = 5720 watt hours. If you upgrade to the 1600 amp hours you have 21,760 watt hours of power which would allow youto run your ac most of the night without needing to start the engine.

[@277kne]

How large is the tank for the cassette toilet? Would Need to empty every day with 4 people.

[@Ultramobility]

hi there - I projected that up on the bathroom wall - it's 4.6 gal.

[@janebuilder2815]

The no bathroom vent seems to be a deal killer. Do they have one in the aktiv without the loft? I love so much about this van but...

[@Ultramobility]

yes the normal aktivs have a huge powered rooftop fan in the bathroom. it's the only one in the van.

[@IMP3TIGO]

Is a shame Hymer hasn't brought out its real class B campervans they have in Europe, like the Grand Canyon S (which has a very large fridge, window in the bathroom, a comfortable elevated rear bed with tons of storage underneath, etc.). Would buy that one in a heartbeat, unlike this compromise filled van aimed at American buyers who want a rear lounge, microwave, etc.

[@TedAndersonUS]

Does the loft version have an in-coach air conditioner? I could not see the air conditioner unit in the ceiling?

[@robertogonzalez5018]

6:04 He glosses over it, but the A/C is included and is a cabinet style. Think portable a/c meets window a/c and the resulting unit is placed under the couch/ottomans somewhere.

[@mikesaysoh6593]

the thing is' No way for A/C? i mean impressive with lay>out. for accommodation for Beds..the unit just depend on cockpit A/C?..

[@Ultramobility]

There's an undermounted a/c - not on the roof.

[@amartins02]

What other options are there for class B or smaller C that offer 5 + seating arrangements with belts? It’s difficult to take a trip if there are safety issues with unbelted kids.

[@Ultramobility]

the airstream interstate lounge ext has 6 seatbelts as does the winnebago era 70x, the 70b has 5.

[@calendarwhiteknight2938]

Roadtrek makes several models that have seatbelts for 5+.

[@amartins02]

I don’t understand why some manufacturers list that a unit sleeps 5 but only has 3 belts. Doesn’t seem smart from a safety standpoint.

[@Ultramobility]

aresenio - it's all in their marketing. it's one reason why I try to highlight this stuff in my video. the manufacturers don't like that I point it out and that people become aware of it. they just want you to see that it can sleep 5 and then after you buy it discover that you can't carry 5 passengers around safely.

[@TomisaburoRMizugawa]

Speaking about the differences, the European version also isn't based on a 3 years old model of Fiat Ducato ... Also I've never understood why black-tank toilet couldn't be made to swivel.

[@Ultramobility]

not sure why the permanent toilets can't be made to swivel...

[@TomisaburoRMizugawa]

I'd say no one's ever bothered since US RVs have so much more space inside on average than European ones.

[@daveg3056]

Yes! The only swiveling anything is the sink in the Nation/View 24G. US mfgs could learn a lot from the Europeans.

[@GENECARP]

Good job once again....TY

[@Ultramobility]

thank you!

[@Khalifrio]

Not for me. I avoid pop ups and sliders as they can be another thing to break and/or leak water. Great job as usual on the video.

[@Ultramobility]

it will be interesting to see the longevity of the pop top. I wish I could get my hands on one for a long term test!

[@realtor411]

Hello, I have a 24 year old Sportsmobile with a pop top, and the fabric is still in good condition, and the top still pops up and down perfectly after all these years. Thanks

[@Ultramobility]

many thanks for sharing this. great information!