[ULTRAPAIN+ 4] REWORKED Minos Prime

[@leonoraarocho658]

Noticable changes: - Minos starts without a stamina limit - "JUUUUUDGEMENT!" has a much more explosive dropkick - Minos seems to attack a lot faster - Minos occasionally summons lightning and summons a massive strike upon *"WEEEAK."* Other than that, I had no idea what the fuck was going on.

[@UntotenTheo]

All correct, good job!

[@ГлебВинокуров-с8ы]

I think in phase 2 the end of prepare thyself creates a thunder strike also why is the WEAK voiceline so delayed?

[@shreeshfuup7058]

@@ГлебВинокуров-с8ыbecause WEAK is now an attack he can do at any time, it seems.

[@mr.waterbottle1265]

Minos has inf stamina during the second phase, and “thy end is now” among other attacks are no longer parriable, so they might have just set him to phase 2 from the start

[@UntotenTheo]

@@mr.waterbottle1265 also correct

[@somber7269]

Make him fakeout "die" and just not do it and right after go into "crush" almost instantly

[@UntotenTheo]

okay that is a kickass idea im not gonna lie

[@vector4632]

*YES!* Fakes and Feints are absolutely worth including in this fight!

[@DownbeatNova]

That would be more fitting for sisyphus prime though? Just a thought, afterall minos doesn’t seem like the kind of person to feint attacks.

[@deathvideogame]

@@UntotenTheoIs there a way you could make him do a “Thy End is Now” combo, but in between each punch he does a different attack

[@surytrap]

minos became a devil-may-like character for real

[@UntotenTheo]

dead ass (i am ass, i am dead.)

[@surytrap]

modern donkeys evolved to be humanoid so i believe you

[@UntotenTheo]

exquisite also i do not know when the myhouse.wad video will come out i only got one ending after 20+ save files and several hours of playing

[@surytrap]

goddamn the liminality really hitting that liminal lime

[@UntotenTheo]

@@surytrap so true bestie i agree

[@WaltorWhtie]

Minos’ prime “Thy end is now” or “Prepare Thyself” should have him teleport and attack the player from behind sometimes

[@antiStrikerS]

kinda like gabe act 2 where if he hits half health he teleports randomly for the last hit of his combos

[@UntotenTheo]

I agree

[@Epicje0ng]

*teleports behind you* “Nothing personal, creature of steel”

[@the_something_something]

@@Epicje0ngThy end is…” teleports behind you *”NOW!”*

[@ron133.]

primeshots??!!

[@nerdycatstudios4740]

Came for Minos Prime, stayed for the old-time music. Another excellent video!

[@UntotenTheo]

thankies

[@RepressedDreamer]

"came for minos prime"

[@definitelyrealskeleton]

​@@RepressedDreameraverage ultrakill player

[@pitori.]

I love the part where he said "DIE" and then just fucking killed me

[@UntotenTheo]

gotta bring back the memories of Minos Prime doing that exact thing when we first faced him 💪

[@thegamerFOX45]

sisyphus: "wait thats my move :(" 0:34

[@UntotenTheo]

he stoled it

[@rainysunday9664]

Those afterimages are damn nutty, good job

[@UntotenTheo]

so true + congratulate EternalUnion not me lol

[@DonisCL4504]

Thank you fro making one of the most hardest games even harder :)

[@UntotenTheo]

self destruction is fun

[@leaviathan2879]

@@UntotenTheo real

[@UntotenTheo]

@@leaviathan2879 no way Leviathan Ultrakill

[@leaviathan2879]

@@UntotenTheo real

[@venge-1540]

Lore accurate minos prime

[@UntotenTheo]

so true!

[@FineAddition2005]

Minos can FINALLY get his judgement for the machine.

[@UntotenTheo]

treu

[@FineAddition2005]

@@UntotenTheoaah… free at last. O, Gabriel, now dawns thy reckoning, and thy gore shall GLISTEN before the temples of man. Creature of steel, my gratitude upon thee for my freedom, but the crimes thy kind have committed against humanity are not forgotten, and thy punishment is *DEATH*

[@UntotenTheo]

@@FineAddition2005 the sawblades in my back pocket:

[@FineAddition2005]

@@UntotenTheo JUDGEMENT

[@goldeneye1689]

It reminds me more of Sisyphus prime more than Minos now

[@UntotenTheo]

and they were roommates

[@OfficiallyDrippy]

​@@UntotenTheooh my gosh they were roommates

[@UntotenTheo]

@@OfficiallyDrippy true!

[@dumbvillage9253]

With that lighting animation it looks like Heaven itself tries to help you by dropping artillery bombs on him.

[@DownbeatNova]

This is honest to god my favourite iteration of minos prime! I’m just waiting for Ultrapain to be updated for the new ultrakill update!

[@evaphan2720]

Jesus Christ, I just felt the intensity of that fight there

[@UntotenTheo]

it gets worse :3

[@evaphan2720]

@@UntotenTheo Wait, what?

[@UntotenTheo]

@@evaphan2720 System Overload will be updated soon to make Minos Prime even harder :3

[@frozenking2474]

The lightning may represents the storms of lust Or the fact that he's the son of zeus...

[@UntotenTheo]

maybe (I'm a showcase person not a coder)

[@frozenking2474]

@@UntotenTheo oh

[@SenyiKimmo]

HE HAS THE BISEXUAL LIGHTNING

[@UntotenTheo]

THE ULTIMATE MOVE BISEXUAL LIGHTNING !! ⚡⚡⚡😚🚹🚺

[@gunk7014]

think itd be cool to have the option to have his voicelines randomized (or disabled if that's easier on you) so it's harder to tell what he's cooking

[@UntotenTheo]

true that'd be funny (we're going to get skinned alive if we add that)

[@gunk7014]

@@UntotenTheo well i want him to skin me alive thats the idea

[@UntotenTheo]

@@gunk7014 no no him skinning either of us alive isnt the issue its that people might get annoyed (and rightfully so) lol

[@AcrylicPainting-b1j]

AAAAAh so THAT's why Minos Prime felt so easy I didn't have this version of ultrapain lmao

[@UntotenTheo]

yeahhhh current major release or whatever u wanna call it doesnt have too many MP changes lol

[@MageBurger]

Meanwhile, Hakita cooking up UMD: “Childs play…”

[@UntotenTheo]

thank god

[@Amadk179]

1:41 can it go like this out of the arena

[@UntotenTheo]

yeah i think it did that one time for me though MP usually teleports fast enough to get back into the arena

[@buckettv799]

minos taking revenge

[@UntotenTheo]

yep

[@joogr2949]

Feints and fakes needs to be included, shit's gonna make one baller ass boss fight

[@UntotenTheo]

that would be cool

[@radi_7]

this seriously needs to be buffed further the difficulty barely feels increased EDIT: i just remembered ultrapain has config. sorry for bitching lmao

[@UntotenTheo]

health and speed were reset to 1 for demonstration purposes, Minos usually has 2x HP and 1.2(?) speed also it's fine lol

[@radi_7]

@@UntotenTheo i was talking about my experience playing the fight lmao but yeah

[@UntotenTheo]

@@radi_7 honestly thats fair its why Minos will get buffs for the System Overload config (same with flesh Prison)

[@radi_7]

@@UntotenTheo nice :D

[@UntotenTheo]

@@radi_7 so true :D

[@Zachabruh]

I don’t like that he fights more like Sisyphus I’m terrified. Especially with that WEAK attack

[@UntotenTheo]

;D

[@colorado2455]

You kinda turned him into a cooler sisyphus prime.

[@UntotenTheo]

:D

[@averagepepsiman6149]

Now just imagine what sisyphus would be

[@colorado2455]

@@UntotenTheo dont get me wrong its pretty cool

[@ultraisb2288]

Canon Minos Prime

[@UntotenTheo]

real and true i agree

[@0riginalLegendaryZer0]

this might just be me but when minos' health lowered over half health i heard "YES! That's it!"

[@UntotenTheo]

you are having delusions

[@0riginalLegendaryZer0]

@@UntotenTheo hah, i know

[@UntotenTheo]

@@0riginalLegendaryZer0 you just like me fr

[@0riginalLegendaryZer0]

@@UntotenTheo ayy, delusional duo rise up

[@UntotenTheo]

@@0riginalLegendaryZer0 Delusion Duo 💪💪💪

[@memebot4320]

what if he threw more snakes

[@UntotenTheo]

he does that in the video

[@mrwarrior2224]

serpents*

[@somenoname3622]

0:35 is that Sisyphus (this will hurt) attack? Minos almost take a shit and says WEAK that can cause explosion similar to sisyphus

[@UntotenTheo]

goddamn right

[@dontatmebro-]

Just wanted to bounce this balance idea off of you real quick: what if the SRS cannon balls can bounce off of enemies multiple times, like coin punching? I was thinking it could bounce like 3-5 times depending on how long you hold the Alt. fire button for. Do you think it would be balanced?

[@UntotenTheo]

I doubt it

[@chettxi52]

I havent stayed all that up too date with this mod but please do something jnteresting with the corpse minos fight itd be awesome

[@UntotenTheo]

it will happen one day, dont worry

[@chettxi52]

@@UntotenTheo i suggest adding 2 more health and maybe making the parasites in minos eyes do a little more.

[@UntotenTheo]

@@chettxi52 Oh yeah, more health is definitely a must. Though currently our dev seems focused on the Prime Bosses, so the Corpse of King Minos may not be updated next.

[@Rhombusreal]

Okay but imagine minos having predictive movement so you can't just slide/dash backwards for THY END IS NOW and PREPARE THYSELF or maybe him dashing towards you right when he kicks for JUDGEMENT instead of a small delay between him moving and actually kicking you, it would be horribly unbalanced (and hard to implement for the predictive attacks) but i find it really funny

[@UntotenTheo]

i think that'd be cool actually

[@DOG_EATER_1887]

So basically just "You can't escape"

[@UntotenTheo]

@@DOG_EATER_1887 yep

[@Nova-exe]

Just wondering, is there an ultrakill mod where all attacks explode on impact?

[@UntotenTheo]

naur don't think so

[@xdrdm7096]

Full Power Minos Prime:

[@UntotenTheo]

yep

[@metaloverlordx8559]

FINALLY A TRUE CHALLENGE

[@UntotenTheo]

so how is it

[@metaloverlordx8559]

@@UntotenTheo pain

[@UntotenTheo]

@@metaloverlordx8559 welcome to the club

[@OfficeKuina]

Now make it so he has absolutely no sound cues

[@UntotenTheo]

we're not interested in being sacrificed but good idea

[@OfficeKuina]

@@UntotenTheo the letter G

[@squiddog3660]

In my honest opinion, he still seems very readable, just more punishing. Maybe if some callouts were taken away (Crush, judgement, Die) it would be slightly harder since we’d have to focus on his positioning rather than having the equivalent of keeping our eyes closed, listen for the cue, hit dash a second after it?

[@UntotenTheo]

he's very readable because I reset his speed to 1x instead of 1.2x

[@jfk5263]

Ngl. You should try 1.4 or 1.5

[@Meatslap]

yo yo yo it’s ultrapain day

[@UntotenTheo]

we are SO back 💪

[@solaris7614]

Minos prime, but it's more prime

[@UntotenTheo]

Minos Prime Squared

[@letter_o_hyphen_letter_o]

bro learned "This will hurt"

[@NexuuusCoooore]

canonically dangerous minos prime: (can actually fight heaven)

[@EnderTheSwagDude]

Minos if he formed into a prime soul before being trapped like Sussypuss:

[@UntotenTheo]

real

[@omegaultramax]

Personal ideas just to make it a bit more hectic: -Can chain together multiple 'DIE's -If you aren't quick enough with the coin, Minos can throw a serpent at it and ricochet that at you akin to V^2 -Can teleport right above you to instantly preform a 'CRUSH' on top of V1, before chaining that with a serpent and a 'DIE'. -In phase 2, the serpents they throw out are blue & unparryable. Either get up to him to heal or suck it up. (The last one is simply me wishing for release day sisyphus to come back since I liked the difficulty of not being able to parry him)

[@UntotenTheo]

the only suggestion here that im fond of is the Unparraible Serpents im ngl not to say the other ideas are bad i just think "instant" attacks are pretty bullshit

[@omegaultramax]

@@UntotenTheo Works for me, criticisms and ideas to improve are always appreciated.

[@UntotenTheo]

@@omegaultramax Well for one, I think spamming "DIE!" would just subject Minos to being predictable, his difficulty here comes from his unpredictability, random teleportation, faster combos and "THY END IS NOW!" and "PREPARR THYSELF!" having 2 possible endings makes him less predictable as a whole I also think that Minos being able to Counter Ricoshot you doesn't... make sense? For one the Serpent can't really be classified as a "Hitscan attack" V2s Revolver shots aren't hitscan either but they ARE fast enough to where they can pass as such Minos CAN achieve similar projectile speeds but that relies on the Serpent orbiting the player for a bit to gain speed Like I said, an Instant "CRUSH!" would just be unfair IF its truly instant, if you mean like, he teleports then does the callout (or does the callout then teleports once the attack is actually initiated) then its all in all a fine idea Chaining "CRUSH!" with "DIE!" wouldn't be as interesting, I like the Serpent idea more

[@omegaultramax]

@@UntotenTheo I admit, the first two ideas were mostly impulsive and just something I had in mind in the moment and decided "yeah that works." The third one did have a measure of thought into it, but I absolutely could've worded it better. What I had in mind, was that minos would as usual go up above them, and call out 'CRRUSSH!', before doing so. The serpent ideas were something I pulled from the fourth one, but I crammed in 'DIE!' as well just to make it obscener. Simply leaving it as just a 'CRRUSSH!' with a maybe 50% chance of a serpent afterwards would absolutely be better. The serpent one was the one I would regard the best of the four, as it's simply yet effective. Primes should be a challenge to overcome, and I liked sisyphus on day one because of the challenge he presented. I understood that it was a bug that needed patching, but I still nonetheless did like that version more. Minos is already mostly unparryable in phase 2 aside from the serpent, which is excellent for balancing, but seeing as the mod is UltraPain for a reason, I thought about removing that aspect as well to truly cement it. Overall, thanks for the feedback!

[@UntotenTheo]

@@omegaultramax Honestly yeah I liked an unparriable Prime Boss, even Sisyphus, its why I don't go out of my way to parry him (Even with attacks like "THIS... WILL HURT.") And hey no problem, always love hearing ideas from the community!

[@frozenking2474]

Minos prime if he learnt the art of war

[@UntotenTheo]

TRUE

[@Nikola-o3g]

POV: Minos wants your pinos

[@UntotenTheo]

"And thy punishment... is cock and ball torture!"

[@icefire4814]

Nice

[@UntotenTheo]

true

[@icefire4814]

​@@UntotenTheo now that I'm actually fighting him I understand why it's called ultrapain, it's very doable but still difficult

[@UntotenTheo]

@@icefire4814 welcome to hell

[@theproatthegame6160]

Shit, who the fuck gave Minos coffee

[@UntotenTheo]

i did we shared

[@theproatthegame6160]

@@UntotenTheo yo gimme some

[@UntotenTheo]

@@theproatthegame6160 sure thing bestie

[@theproatthegame6160]

@@UntotenTheo thanks

[@UntotenTheo]

@@theproatthegame6160 yo welcom

[@pmpeter2279]

I dig this minos prime, but the problem is that isnt his health a bit lesser than the original?

[@UntotenTheo]

my man i literally stated in the video that his Health and Speed have been reverted to 1x for the sake of demonstration the dude literally has double HP by default if you install the pre-release

[@pmpeter2279]

@@UntotenTheo ah aight

[@oohven]

Heres a suggestion for corpse of minos fight: Phase 1: - When his palm/punch/backhand attacks get parried, CoKM immediately transitions into the slam attack. - The shockwaves from all physical attacks are now colored orange and deal 15 damage each. - New Attack: Backhand. Minos reels back his hand and swipes his hand across the top half of the arena. Can be avoided by a slide or a parry. - He will summon his Blackhole at V1's current location instead of the center of the arena. - The Blackhole will now implode every 2.5 seconds, sending out a small shockwave which will deal 10 normal and 20 hard damage. Everything from Phase 1 carries over. Phase 2: - The two serpents' projectiles are now 3 bursts of Hell Orbs and 4 Homing Orbs *per serpent*. - Every 2.5 seconds, both serpents will send out one Mortar Orb each at V1's location. - If a projectile(s) is shot out at V1 while he is very close to the blackhole, it will be sucked into the blackhole and spat out a few seconds later back at V1. - Lightning strikes will occassionally land somewhere random on the arena.

[@UntotenTheo]

Interesting, very interesting.

[@oohven]

@@UntotenTheo Also, if you wanna make it EXTRA HARD: - New Attack: Herd Call. CoKM will hover his hands above the arena and summon several Strays across it, spawning them in corners, center, etc. In Phase 2, the Strays's heads get replaced by Serpents. Keep in mind, the Strays in both phases can get friendly fire'd by the Blackhole, CoKM and his serpents.

[@UntotenTheo]

@@oohven oooo thats v interesting, would be fun i think

[@Paquito495]

Great job, but a detail. Gabriel’s teleportation effects don’t go with Minos, because he doesn’t teleport, it’s just his crazy speed 🗿

[@khanh6247]

add more homing snakes to legit make him medusa

[@UntotenTheo]

he literally throws like 8000 more snakes in the video

[@glowcube1244]

Make prime souls immune to saws

[@the_something_something]

As someone who has done Minos Sanded x10 HP x1.5 ATK Speed, I’m currently shitting myself because I haven’t played in a week

[@UntotenTheo]

you're so cool for that tbh

[@the_something_something]

@@UntotenTheo Should I record doing it again? It’s quite literally constant movement and focus for ten grueling minutes

[@UntotenTheo]

@@the_something_something I mean, if you had fun doing so, then sure! Go for it, fun is all that matters in the end :] Tho if it was boring or just exhausting (Which it likely is since Minos isn't the hardest boss once you beat his skull in 10 times) I'd say don't tbh

[@the_something_something]

@@UntotenTheo Noo I think I’ll do it

[@UntotenTheo]

@@the_something_something lemme know when u do bestie 💥 shit like that deserves to be seen

[@meyzomu]

YOU SHOULD PREPARE THYSELF...NOW!

[@ZenPlaysVideoGames]

This must be what ULTRAKILL must die will be like.

[@piyo744]

I'm getting some massive lag at the end of "THY END IS NOW". Any reason why?

[@UntotenTheo]

unsure

[@piyo744]

@@UntotenTheo Looks like it was my particle effects. Not turning on simple explosions caused my frame drops.

[@UntotenTheo]

@@piyo744 Oh, that's useful to know, thank you for telling me

[@RealliveactualUnknown]

Kindly reviving Minos Prime and sending him to train at Playground mode

[@brainfreezzzze6900]

Give him... a second layer of health...for the funny...

[@UntotenTheo]

he has double HP by default I just disabled it here for demo sake

[@brainfreezzzze6900]

@@UntotenTheo double it and don't give it to the next person

[@UntotenTheo]

AMEN 🙏

[@Serpurr]

And now that what I say challenge

[@UntotenTheo]

yessir

[@Meatslap]

himm tbh i though i will see ( be gone ) idk why

[@UntotenTheo]

best i can do is "WEAK" (lightning strike)

[@Meatslap]

@@UntotenTheo you did well you got my ass kicked

[@UntotenTheo]

@@Meatslap finally, hard Minos Prime

[@vinnyd9958]

Can Minos be as strong as Sisyphus with this?

[@UntotenTheo]

maybe idk if he isn't, tweak him till he is

[@vinnyd9958]

@@UntotenTheoTrue

[@neashikanazoswiftydifty]

Minos if he already formed like Sisyphus

[@UntotenTheo]

correct

[@trollgedrip]

no way minos became low tier prime

[@UntotenTheo]

bro really said "And thy punishment... is death!" (LIGHTNING STRIKE)

[@Bananana4320]

Is there a way to decrease the effects of the lightning, cuz holy shit whenever minos does "THY END IS NOW" and finishes the combo with the lightning strike, the fps literally drops to 1 for a few seconds

[@UntotenTheo]

go to MPs config

[@Xeros_VII]

Now someone do this with forceradiance on Tier 2 or 3 and suffer

[@UntotenTheo]

no thanks i still have to technically do P-2 with Double Enemies

[@ГлебВинокуров-с8ы]

WAIT THIS IS LITERALLY INFERNUM FOR ULTRAKILL WTH

[@UntotenTheo]

it can get worse 💜

[@Mr_comical0]

From bisexual lighting to bisexual Lightning 💀

[@simoun4768]

Please make him harder because it just looks like you gave him lighting powers (not saying I hate it)

[@UntotenTheo]

read the fine print next time (or maybe try fighting him yourself) when minos spawned in, its stated in the bottom left of this video that his Health and Speed Multipliers were REVERTED to 1.0x

[@hudsonkilbury3416]

Make him faster and have ZERO parriable attacks 💀

[@minimum850]

he spam crush

[@xdrdm7096]

Mf can do strings now???

[@metaloverlordx8559]

P-ranked it Feeling good

[@UntotenTheo]

hell to the yeah!

[@biggusdiccus123]

Lore accurate minos prime

[@UntotenTheo]

true