BlueSCSI Benchmarks and Comparison Review -

[@helfire23]

Thanks again for the video! You mentioned the perf gains of using exfat, but I missed what you used for the tests. Exfat and a good sd card should eek out just a bit more!

[@JoesComputerMuseum]

I used the same tool as Retro Theory: SCSI Director Pro 4: macintoshgarden.org/apps/scsi-director-pro-40

[@helfire23]

@@JoesComputerMuseum oh sorry I meant what format was the SD card exfat or fat32

[@JoesComputerMuseum]

@@helfire23 AH! My tests were done using FAT32. I didn't find out about ExFAT until it was too late to go back and run another set of tests.

[@StephenArsenault]

@@JoesComputerMuseum It's never too late to update in the comments :)

[@SatanicMac]

02:40 - Joe perfectly describes what it means to be a vintage Apple user :D

[@JoesComputerMuseum]

MOOD

[@elamorte]

Hey Joe, thanks for your videos. Love your channel. In my case the scsi2sd never worked on any of my old macs. I was very frustrated. I did everything to make it work but failed. Fortunately I found a good usage for it: on my Akai DR8 digital recorder it worked flawlessly. I'm totally happy with the performance of it on my AKAI so, no complains, just wished it had worked on my old macs. Next time I'm going to try one of the other options mentioned in this video.

[@EvLoutonian]

ah, might be good signs that it may work on Akai S-series samplers also(?)

[@elamorte]

@@EvLoutonian definitely!

[@RacerX-]

Nice video, very helpful to see the numbers. Have you tried these same tests on a PPC Mac in the range of the PCI Macs 7200-9600? Just curious.

[@JoesComputerMuseum]

PPC Macs are not currently supported by BlueSCSI. Once that changes, I'll likely return for another go.

[@RacerX-]

@@JoesComputerMuseum Gotcha, I missed that detail. ;-). Keep up the good work, I am loving the videos.

[@Berkner80]

Will the Zuluscsi work on a Mac LC 475? Not sure how to get my OS 7.5 on SD card since I only have it on my HD but first things first. My HD still works but for how long I'm not sure.

[@ARGON023]

Hello, I bought SCSI2SD v6. I have ATARI TT and FALCONA030. Is it possible to supply power to SCSI2SD via the output of ATARI floppy disk power supply with SCSI2SD floppy disk input. Currently, I can only connect via usb computer - SCSI2SD v6 2020c, I have two more power adapters to charge the phone also with a 5v usb output. one has 460mA and the other 1.2A. The SCSI2 instruction states that the power supply cannot exceed 500mA and 5V, especially the problem with the 500mA current - no one on YTub addresses this problem, hmm, how to connect SCSI2 from a loved ATARI floppy drive or from a converted USB output from with 2A and 5v current? Can I ask for help with the solution NOT to burn SCSI2SD chips. Do I need to remove the 12v power from the Molex plug ( color - yellow?) of a 600 Watt computer power supply.

[@dissonantcognizance]

SCSI2SD v6 produced relentless write errors and randomly very slow write times even when it was working no matter what I did in system 7.5 and above on my IIvx and SE, I think that is related to your issue. Supposedly downgrading the firmware fixes it, but you can't do that in the 2020 boards. I just gave up and got a v5. The v6 works great in later PPC Macs though. My v6 in the IIvx benchmarked so badly in Speedometer 3 it was actually comparable to benchmarking an Appleshare drive over a Nubus Ethernet card.

[@JoesComputerMuseum]

Thanks for the update!

[@ARCJavMaster]

Thanks for the great comparison, I just got one and looks like an amazing device!

[@mattsephton]

Why not use BlueSCSI as a second HDD to get the screenshots off the Mac?

[@JoesComputerMuseum]

Because I'm a stupid. ;)

[@megaimg]

To move Files from Old Mac Using AppleTalk I use a Pi 2B with A2Server....You can copy file to you pc from A2Server because support CIFS....be sure if you use Win 10, to enable SMB v1

[@JoesComputerMuseum]

This is just one more reason I need to get a Pi.

[@kirishima638]

Why didn’t you just use a floppy to transfer the screen shots?

[@JoesComputerMuseum]

I didn't have a process to do that at the time.

[@kirishima638]

@@JoesComputerMuseum You didn't have a single floppy disk?

[@JoesComputerMuseum]

@@kirishima638 I didn't, IIRC, have a process to get floppy stored information to a machine with an internet connection.

[@kirishima638]

@@JoesComputerMuseum wow

[@retrobitstv]

Good information and also very timely! I am soon to be a proud owner of my very first 68k Mac and need to decide on a storage solution, so this will help out with that. Re: transferring files - how about an RS232 WiFi modem + terminal + zmodem -> Linux server :)

[@JoesComputerMuseum]

Would require me to own such items. Didn't have them while filming this episode, so I had to make due with what I had. :P

[@jakubpouzar3365]

Ever heard of RaSCSI? It can even emulate ethernet over SCSI.

[@RonsCompVids]

"It can even emulate ethernet over SCSI." Not on the Mac currently :(

[@JoesComputerMuseum]

I have heard of it. It's in my pipeline somewhere.. ;)

[@helfire23]

@@RonsCompVids It can on Mac! checkout the daynaport3 branch. Still "beta" but I've used it quite a bit successfully.

[@gklinger]

@@RonsCompVids kzbin.info/www/bejne/oX3cdYNve7F7os0

[@mccrh7737]

Good video, but here is a little hint ;) Use Hotline Client / Server to transfer files from an old mac to other comps :) Hotline works on win 95 - 10 and mac os 7 - 10 ;)

[@GeekyBit]

You need a video capture card and just to get your screen shots that way... it is what I do. I have a StarTech USB 3.0 capture card with VGA input and a 15 pin VGA to 15 pin mac video adaptor. It works great and I have a specially modified upscale for when it does.

[@JoesComputerMuseum]

I need to get many things. My "want" list is long. My funding... not so much!

[@GeekyBit]

@@JoesComputerMuseum I totally understand that. I was so worried when I bought the StarTech USB 3.0 capture card with retro capture capabilities as it was 200 USD(very expensive for me). But man was it worth it. I use it with a modded GBS8200 that used a ESP8266 to handle stuff. One of the main things I use it on is an Apple IIGS I got. I followed your 15 pin apple RGB to 15 pin vga cable guild. I now use it for insanely crisp captures of the IIGS EDIT: Again I get it not having a lot of money to spend on wants... Also as a side note I would bet with a 15 USD HDMI capture card a 6 USD active VGA to HDMI adaptor and then a 15 pin mac to 15 pin VGA adapter It could work. likely this is a lot cheaper of a solution. Its just my solution was an investment into doing stuff for my super small youtube channel. I want to be able to screen grab the nicest of image I can and I think it worked out good for me. As for possible free solutions why not use Ciderpress and the BlueScsi. IE Put the screen caps on the blueScsi Drive and then put the SD card from the bluescsi in a pc and then and use CiderPress to access the HDD image file and then transfer the file to your pc. Just an idea I don't know if there would have been other things preventing that from working though as I don't have Bluescsi as they are out of stock. When I get paid I am ordering all the parts to build 5 of them because that is the cheapest option I could get from PCBway and mouser for the parts. EDIT 2: Thanks for talking the time to reply It was really nice of you to do so. I do enjoy your videos.

[@newsofthenerd]

Why you didnt just save it to a disk and on any linux machine or maybe even any machine just read the disk? I just write files directly to disk from linux and they work on my mac lc 2 and 3 no problem.

[@JoesComputerMuseum]

That would have required me to a) have a linux machine and b) known linux well enough to know I could have done that.

[@newsofthenerd]

@JoesComputerMuseum What I mean is just use a generic usb floppy drive on a modern system. I just happen to only use linux. I'm sure windows and mac also can access a mac formatted floppy either directly or with software.

[@JoesComputerMuseum]

@@newsofthenerd At the time of making that video, I didn't have a USB floppy drive, either. ;)

[@newsofthenerd]

@JoesComputerMuseum I'll trade you your choice of any old 8bor 16bit computer or mac for a nice usb floppy 💾 it's a good deal right ✅️

[@drzeissler]

Just tested my 6100/66 with blue SCSI against 6100/60 with original SCSI-HDD (macbench 3.0). BlueSCSI is half the performance of the spinning SCSI-drive.

[@JoesComputerMuseum]

Try out the BlueSCSI v2.

[@TheBasementChannel]

Super niche, but for those of us that need this, we say thanks!! 😀👍

[@RetroTheory]

Nice video.. Thanks for the shout out, Im famous lol

[@JoesComputerMuseum]

:D

[@jameswhite2792]

Great video! I have a bunch of SCSI II 68 pin drives that I just cannot get working with my Macs using converters to 50 pin. Any clues on what you did? :)

[@JoesComputerMuseum]

I used a 68 pin to centronics cable. Then used the guts of a centronics internal ribbon as a coupler. Then centronics to 25 pin.

[@wotsac]

Big sympathy on the trouble getting files moved.

[@RonsCompVids]

"Yeah, but what about the performance in Macs that support SCSI2?!?" -- People that need to sign up for your Patreon

[@Wingnut353]

If you have SCSI2 you should get the SCSI2SD hands down... its going to be several times faster.

[@Toby_Q]

Couldn't you just have used a floppy? The mac can read/write PC floppies. I have a $20 usb floppy drive that still works fine in Windows 10.

[@JoesComputerMuseum]

In theory, yes! However: 1) I do not have a USB floppy drive. 2) Reading/Writing Mac floppies on a Windows computer is not plug-and-play.

[@Toby_Q]

@@JoesComputerMuseum No but it's just pictures. You could write them to a PC formatted floppy. The mac can read/write PC formatted floppies. I did it on my IIsi the other day.

[@JoesComputerMuseum]

@@Toby_Q See item 1. Also.. I didn't think about it?

[@Toby_Q]

@@JoesComputerMuseum Yeah I gotcha. Next time! It made it real easy for me to move data from my PC to IIsi.

[@DavidMarvin]

"warm up the CRT" *points to an LCD*.

[@JoesComputerMuseum]

Reality is hard.

[@drewbeattie6346]

Or you could have taken a picture with your cell phone of each screen...

[@JoesComputerMuseum]

Yeah, but I thought it would look icky.

[@santospoland]

command-shift-3 screenshots on even old Macs, not sure if this feature existed in System 6 or earlier though but you can then push the files to an FTP server or turn your Mac into an FTP server using NetPresenz (now free). For FTP, you should be able to setup plain FTP on your FTP server and not port forward port 80 (you said web server so…) on router but still enjoy connectivity from inside the LAN. So as long as your old Mac has Fetch or some other FTP client you should be able to connect to any modern machine running plain FTP with no SSH/SSL etc - again just be sure to not poke a hole in your firewall for port 80. It will still work from the LAN. If you have good FTP server software you should be able to create a second instance of FTP on set it to port 2121 or something and don't use it with any certs or ssh (port 21). Again, a great LAN FTP solution. Alternatively you could set up your old Mac to be an FTP server. This will allow ANY modern OS and an FTP client to still connect to that old Mac running the FTP server. For this solution I highly recommend NetPresenz, amazing software for sure. The best solution in my opinion is netpresenz. Your old Mac will be a great LAN based FTP server.

[@JoesComputerMuseum]

command-shift-3 is how I did the screenshots. I didn't mention all the steps - had to move the files to another mac and convert them to PNG so my Windows machine could even open them. I went with sending files to my existing web-facing ftp server because it was already there. Faster than going through the process of setting up one internally.