UMBRELLA ACADEMY Season 3 Twist & NEW TIMELINE Explained! + Season 4 Theories

The Umbrella Academy Season 3 ends on a huge cliffhanger & setup for Season 4! The Season 3 Ending & Mid-Credits Scene explained, what happened to Sloane, Hargreaves wife, Allison's deal + Season 4 theories for Luther, Ben, Diego, Lila, Five, Klaus and Viktor!
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0:00 Intro
0:25 Apocalypse 3.0
1:27 Resetting The Umbrellaverse
4:58 Enter The Televator
5:32 What Was Allison's Deal With Hargreaves?
6:53 Heroes Reborn & Doppelgangers
9:03 Season 4 Televator Theory
9:35 Where Is Sloane?
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About THE UMBRELLA ACADEMY Season 3:
After putting a stop to 1963’s doomsday, the Umbrella Academy return home to the present, convinced they prevented the initial apocalypse and fixed this godforsaken timeline once and for all. But after a brief moment of celebration, they realize things aren’t exactly (okay, not at all) how they left them. Enter the Sparrow Academy. Smart, stylish, and about as warm as a sea of icebergs, the Sparrows immediately clash with the Umbrellas in a violent face-off that turns out to be the least of everyone’s concerns. Navigating challenges, losses, and surprises of their own - and dealing with an unidentified destructive entity wreaking havoc in the Universe (something they may have caused) - now all they need to do is convince Dad’s new and possibly better family to help them put right what their arrival made wrong. Will they find a way back to their pre-apocalyptic lives? Or is this new world about to reveal more than just a hiccup in the timeline?
Series Credits:
Created for Television by: Steve Blackman
Producers: Steve Blackman (Showrunner/EP), Jeff F. King (EP/D), Jesse McKeown (EP), Mike Richardson (EP), Keith Goldberg (EP), Scott Stuber (EP), Beau Bauman (EP), Jeremy Webb (EP, 301), Gerard Way (Co-EP), Gabriel Bá (Co-EP), Michelle Lovretta (Co-EP), Steve Wakefield (Producer, 301-307), DJ Carson (Producer, 308-310)
Produced by: UCP, a division of Universal Studio Group, for Netflix
Cast: Elliot Page, Tom Hopper, David Castañeda, Emmy Raver-Lampman, Robert Sheehan, Aidan Gallagher, Justin H. Min, Colm Feore, Ritu Arya, Justin Cornwell, Britne Oldford, Jake Epstein, Genesis Rodriguez, Cazzie David, Javon ‘Wanna’ Walton, Jordan Claire Robbins

[@ronaldverdegaal9078]

That part when Sloane almost got killed and klaus conjured up Luther was so heartwarming and showing that klaus is trusting his powers more. Wish we got to see him more in action this season

[@vc4003]

Agreed I believe he’ll be the focus of next season with him being number 4 and we got to see his powers a lot this season so I think it was preparing us to see more of him

[@allmigthygoddess939]

I hate this show

[@ivonas5172]

horibble 3rd season

[@seanwilks7712]

Klaus was definitely the season 3 MVP.

[@ronaldverdegaal9078]

@@seanwilks7712 but

[@EdolasMystogan]

"The deal" was definitely about rewriting reality for Allison, to give her both of the people she wanted the most.

[@aldymeidiawansatriyo1443]

i just realized that now

[@belljdr]

But what if Klaus never returned? The deal would have been broken off

[@adriandivina6574]

Yes. I noticed this as well. The future/timeline they were in, catered only to both reginald and allison's.

[@fritzi.4679]

I was totally thinking about this! I just wish that Sloane will be in S4 - her character is refreshing since every character is kinda nuts.

[@larkynria2223]

@@fritzi.4679 and mean lol I’m so beyond angry I mean we saw glimpse of what an ass she could be in every season up till now but my God

[@thepandicorn3529]

So about Reginald's deal with Allison, he ended up going through with it, but I don't think he was planning to. Because he needed 7 children to stand on the sigil which ended up being Viktor, Diego, Klaus Lila, Five and Sloane leaving Allison safe on the sidelines, he even told her to not step on the star to protect her. But the thing is, he hadn't intended for Klaus to be there, he purposefully left him behind thinking he couldn't come back with his body completely obliterated. He into Oblivion with the exact number of children he needed to complete the sigil, meaning he was planning on using Allison to power machine despite their deal.

[@Barzbub]

By teaching Klaus to use his abilities to the fullest, my theory is he KNEW leaving him behind wouldn't stop him from getting through the porthole! He knew the Guardians were extremely dangerous and deadly, why risk everything by only having 7 children there to fight and or power the machine!?

[@helene6686]

True!! And also he knows Five didn’t trust him so he would 100% stop him

[@thepandicorn3529]

@@Barzbub But then why was he surprised when Klaus showed up? As a matter of fact, why kill Klaus at all? I agree that it would've been smarter to have one kid to spare. Unless it's like a 5D chess move and Reg knew that if he killed Klaus, he would talk to Luther and both come back and be able to summon Luther to finish the fight?

[@playsanuzoo]

@@Barzbub He needed only 7 and he intended to use Allison to power the sigil, just as the OP said. He left Klaus behind, despite his powers. He spent too much time with him and figured he was a weakling, too flamboyant and hippie like. Yes, he could reanimate, but other than that, not a very good fighter. That is why he told him, before shoving him into oblivion he was more trouble than he was worth. The reason he limited it to seven is exactly what happened when Allison became the 8th person. An extra person would attempt to get in the way of his plans, why? Because remember the Sparrows and the Umbrellas began to look at each other as family. What do family do? They typically protect each other, and that is exactly what Allison did. She almost thwarted his plan. Almost. But he never knew Klaus would return, but he figured there wasn't much he could do about it. He told Allison not to go, not because of some moral, ethical conscience. He likely did not want the sigil to be effected if she were to interfere and she was the only one who knew his plan. He figured she would go along with it. He was wrong.

[@EyedPascual-_-]

I think allison reset the world he wishes that everything she lost will be back

[@houkuni1331]

I'm just glad Klaus is/was immortal so I didn't have to worry about my favourite character being gone forever

[@katielong6619]

he most likely won't be immortal in season four though, assuming that all their powers (accept maybe Allison's) are gone

[@eddiegreencheez]

Klaus has had a lot of Near-Life experiences

[@fidato_]

He should have died when his body dissipated. How can you come back from death if your body doesn't exist in the real world? It was big giant plot hole and Klaus is my least favorite character in the show.

[@juanumana5688]

In the show Misfits, he is a super gifted teenager with basically a version of that same gift. It crazy he is doing it over and over...

[@StellaLoreley]

Back in season 2 I had a theory that each season represented an obsession of one of the characters. Season 1, meaning Luther, was all about the moon; Season 2, with Diego and his obsession to be a hero and save Kennedy; and now Season 3 with Alisson and her obsession to get back to her child and husband (something I predicted back then). Next season is Number 4, aka Klaus. I’m not really sure what his obsession is going to be, but considering how he completely embraced his powers, I’m guessing somewhere along those lines. This would also mean that the last season is about Viktor’s obsession (guessing we stick to the main 7), which seems a pretty good idea to finish off this series

[@eunminji2994]

Interesting theory With Klaus, S3 heavily explored his powers and suddenly ended with him losing his immortality so I think we might see him struggle to not get killed or maybe something else entirely

[@deems7702]

THATS ACTUALLY SO SMART??? I NEVER NOTICED BC Luther number one, Number 2 which is Diego and it was all about Diego wanting to be a freaking hero. WOAH LFOAHSIDHD im so shocked i never noticed lol

[@hanibolenzski]

Thats a theory that I actually hope will be explored

[@terezasvabova8159]

*Viktor's, but great theory

[@StellaLoreley]

@@terezasvabova8159 sh*t, I’ll fix it immediately

[@glorichu480]

I support the superpowered doppelganger theory bc I think Hargreeves would still let the super babies be born bc they are the power source for alien tech. He would at least need them just in case he needs to reset the timeline again. But he wouldn't raise them himself because he has seen how he creates messed up kids that hate him. OR this time he is able to raise them to be obedient bc he has his wife to help make them a real "family". (He might have kept Sloane as one of his kids) If he left them to be raised by their birth parents that would explain "nice looking Ben" being on a train in Korea living the life he was meant to live. Especially bc his family originally didnt look like they wanted to sell him to Hargreeves. I hope we finally get to hear the explanation for the Jennifer incident that killed Ben1 bc they hinted at it so much in S3 (there were sketches of Jennifer all over Ben2's bedroom but she obviously wasn't in his life bc he kept saying he has nothing and no one but the Sparrows - also the sketch of Hargreeve's alien face was in that scene but no one is talking about it...)

[@LindaHimesama]

I need to go back to see that drawing

[@alphastormeex9468]

I'm sure we will! I think season 3 set up a lot that will be addressed in season 4.

[@buckshott00]

This might be a little unfair, but Allison clearly still had some kind of feelings for Luther. I think she had some kind of influence on the machine beyond what Reginald programmed in. To me, it looks like she wants her cake and to eat it too. She likes the idea of leaving Luther hanging on. She clearly had some jealously issues about Sloane, so I think it is entirely possible that Allison didn't carry Sloane over either as some kind of petty revenge against Luther for voting to stay behind or feeling slighted that Luther didn't come running back to her once she showed some interest in him.

[@judomaster8629]

Totally agree , especially when they were literally having most of their time together when they were kidz so they both mean a lot to each other

[@KacciVAL]

Nice theory but no

[@buckshott00]

@@KacciVAL why not? Any other reason than "because" or "Allison wouldn't do that"...

[@iri8032]

Yeah I've started to hate her now. She married different people in different timelines in the first two seasons and just wants to use Luther when no one else is around. Yeah she doesn't hesitate to love anyone else but Luther should just sit in a corner waiting for her to use him again? What a shit character. Also killed Harlan when he didn't knowingly kill their mothers and even felt necessary to tell the truth even after realizing Viktor covered for him. Well why doesn't she go blame herself for not shooting Vanya in season 1 cuz that's what couldn't let them stop the first apocalypse and how Claire really died.

[@sakukas5539]

if she had any power over the machine how comes that she decided to bring reggie and not sloane? remember that she also killed him before pressing that button. I think that she had no power over it, and that sloane wasn't there because in that universe only the umbrella academy members exist

[@princessliam5949]

I'm always woundering what are the other children's powers we haven't seen because all together there were 43 not sure if any where in the comics, loved the third season, hopes theres a season 4.

[@kevinderoo3880]

Weren't there only 16 though? I'm pretty sure there were only 16 women who gave birth to those children that day. If there were only 16 women, it means there are only 2 children left we haven't seen; Umbrella Academy makes 7, Sparrow makes 6 (Ben doesn't count as new obv) and we know Lila is one of them. 7+6+1 = 14 children, so there are 2 children left we haven't seen. Also, there is definitely a season 4 coming and probably a season 5 as well :)

[@soleilfrederick4248]

@@kevinderoo3880 In the original timeline there were 43 children born, in season three's timeline only 16 were born. I haven't heard any theories as to what happened to the others and why Harlan powers would have attacked people other than the six he met in season 2.

[@_JustJasper]

@@soleilfrederick4248 in the sparrow timeline Harlan killed the rest of the mothers. Leaving only 16 left to actually give birth

[@matthewrickard5050]

@@soleilfrederick4248 he could feel them all with the vibrations as he said, and he couldn't control his powers so he most likely just released his anger which killed a random amount of women who he could feel would getting the dust stuff

[@agustinb2732]

@@kevinderoo3880 Harlan killed 27 mothers of all of them. thats why there were just 16 women who gave birth in the beggining of season three. but there will allways be 43 kids in anytimeline I guess

[@rufarojunior]

What an epic season can’t wait for season four

[@FlicksAndTheCity]

It was, wasn't it?!

[@rufarojunior]

@@FlicksAndTheCity definitely is

[@charlesbox5410]

It’s going to be hard to too this season

[@yungisokilledit7058]

@@charlesbox5410 its not, the season wasnt as good as the other 2

[@vjbowe242]

@@yungisokilledit7058 totally agree

[@jamesgarcia3044]

It’s obvious it’s going to a season 4, but this now gives them a chance to make the show about something entirely new and actually have a human threat who comes for them, since they are all powerless. This opens the door honestly for anything and tbh it could turn out to be the best season yet if thought out correctly.

[@ComeStayNZ]

Not exactly obvious because it needs to be renewed. But you should say it’s obvious that a season 4 is intended.

[@epicasaps9127]

Yea I Feel Like Umbrella Academy Could Have Done This Season Better But With Reginald Hargreeves In Season 4 Hopefully We Get A Human Threat No a Apacolypse

[@devydev2121]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but human threat? Not sure if you are referring to reg, but isn't he some sort of alien???

[@jamesgarcia3044]

@@devydev2121 I mean since we have a clean slate now, there are many possibilities they can explore with a potential villain. Not just having it where the world will end, but instead stopping someone from causing destruction or from destroying them you know? It would be cool to see them face an crazy villain who they can’t beat easily. Just something new because people will eventually grow out of the show with the same looped story.

[@larkynria2223]

I wish it would take a more alien nonsense route like in the comics though I was getting tired of the human frame we get in every show

[@brittanynicole3106]

My husband and I have a theory about Allison actually! So basically making a deal with Reginald is like getting a wish from a genie or making a deal with the Fay there’s always a dark side or something he’s keeping from you. So we think the only way that Allison can have Ray and Claire at the same time is if she’s dead, and that’s her Heaven because you see Klaus and Luther cycle through other peoples “heavens” when they’re fighting in the void but of course he wouldn’t tell Allison that because I’m not sure that she would agree to it.

[@NameUserOf]

Nice theory there.

[@lawryteos2230]

I beg to diff. Another multiverse is there is another you there but something has changed. You might be doing another job because of something changed during your schooling days etc. so in millions of multiverse, there must be one that Allison has a loving husband and her child.

[@brittanynicole3106]

@@lawryteos2230 even then it’s possible for ray to exist only 60 years later? I’m wondering how they will handle paternity will Patrick still be her father or is it now Ray only in the house Patrick and Allison once lived in? I’m excited for all the loose threads to be tied in season 4.

[@chyname]

@@lawryteos2230 They will probably make Ray a mean controlling husband. Opposite of his original character like how they did Sparrow Academys Ben.

[@alexarillo5664]

i think the deal is to keep her family alive and have ray and claire as her family, it might explain the reason why we didn't see sloane in the ending, idk tho i also think that she considered lila as a family

[@marcgarcia2294]

Well Reginald did say he’ll look after Sloane when he killed Luther so maybe he did something like he did for Allison

[@arturovillegas1128]

I hope so because I want to see Luther reunite with his wife Sloane before the show ends.

[@toujingyi9156]

Odd thing is Five did not restore back to his supposed aged adult body, we all knew this is restriction due to the actors, but logically, if everything is restored to normal, Five should return to his original old age or at least return to a state that he has never time traveled and altering his age.

[@thetrynes]

And same with Vanya

[@Rosa-zr5ql]

​@@thetrynes what is so hard with calling people by their new name...and I know this comment isn't innocent... jeez people...Viktor exist because of a gender transition, which is not time travel, but presenting different to society. We are in 2022, get over it.

[@matthewrickard5050]

but the new timeline was completely created by hargreeves, so its not surprising he just left the umbrellas the way they were at the end - even tho luther came back normal but thats most likely because he died and so respawned as he would be in this new universe

[@jayy3669]

@@thetrynes Viktor*

[@jeringatai3156]

@@thetrynes you know his name is Viktor

[@ihavemoreshipsthanthenavy99]

I also just realized that Klaus' tattoos on his hands are gone in the new reality at the end of the season ... could that mean that they have inhabited the bodies of normal versions of themselves, but without their backstories?

[@MaraMara89]

that would make sense if we haven't seen Ben in Korea - there still are other versions of them

[@EMMa-vy7ob]

The magic sigil on the computer wasn't fully completed by Hargreaves(the last square was blank) so I think there still might be some kinks in the new reality in season 4 that the umbrella academy could solve.

[@thepandicorn3529]

Huh, that's interesting, maybe that could explain why Sloane is missing.

[@jamaalgustavsson1841]

That's what i've been thinking too, but none of these channels that talk about this season have even brought it up...

[@Lost_in_my_basement]

Allison went from my favorite character in season 2 to my most hatred one in season 3..... She's really always the one complaining and she never apologizes unless she wants something in exchange... the way she treats Victor is so messed up... she's honestly the most selfish character I've EVER seen in a tv show... she's the only one who never gets in trouble for abusing her powers... she's always blaming Victor for being reckless with his powers in the past but she does the exact thing she's complaining about... she's honestly just annoying.. And MOST IMPORTANT!!!! She forced herself on luther by using her powers on him! That's rape... im so mad that wasn't even really talked about... i hope luther will call her out in season 4 and the others can see just how freaking messed up she is!

[@sunnysunflowers328]

Is it rape or sexual assault? I didn't like Allison even in S1 cause she never rubbed me the right way and I thought she came off as selfish from the start. That's why I thought the deal she made with Reg was that everything goes back to 'normal' meaning that all her siblings and herself are alive BUT have no powers or suspicious & messy backgrounds. Like they were given a clean slate and a chance to be average for once. Along with that, she also asked for Claire and her husband back so that she can live a normal life with them too. The thing that led me to this theory is that when she apologised to Viktor before the vote, she said that he had to trust her because this would benefit ALL of them. Does that mean she made the deal thinking that her siblings wanted to be average too? Or maybe she knew that leaving them with powers would cause trouble for her again and disrupt her perfect life?

[@sammykent5752]

There was no penetration, so it's sexual assault, but that was still effed up

[@LaccerHS]

Yeah, she was just such an annoying character, like Iris from the Flash or Laurel from Season 2 Arrow. She had no character development at all, just bitching about how she lost her family, and was just a dick to everyone else the whole season.

[@Simone-mh4mj]

I still loved Allison before Luther's scene. Thats where I Lost It....

[@gamingwithnap1884]

It's not rape. It's SA. And Luther forgave her

[@NathanNoon]

I am still unsatisfied with Allison's logic to finishing off Harlan

[@h3lpmepls]

I think that’s the point, it’s supposed to show how serious the effects of depression are and how Allison isn’t thinking straight and also she developed a drinking problem

[@darrius3022]

@@h3lpmepls Exactly. No one would be rational traveling multiple timelines losing spouse and kid completely erased from existence. Because of Harlen killing Allison's mother, Allison was never born therefore Claire didn't atleast exist and be okay even if with another version of Allison. Because of Harlen, she never existed that's a whole extra level to a loved one dying. Not even having proof child ever existed other than memories, hisband dead. Allison wasn't right but it was a good representation of grief, depression and slowly decending into insanity.

[@Dandelion4048]

I think it was reasonable if you lost your child because of him that sht hits. Plus what made her even angrier was Viktor lying to them. The brother who she thought was the only one she could trust.

[@swinto4795]

Allison was so annoying this season...kept doing a Cartman in every single scene she was in as well "Screw you guys, i'm going home"

[@ellafruitloops]

@@Dandelion4048 it’s definitely not reasonable. Harlan didn’t kill Allison’s daughter in a timeline where she never existed. Viktor was correct when he said Allison killed Harlan to get back at him, it had nothing to do with their mothers. Allison is a loose cannon and s*xually assaulted Luther.

[@phoebehorn4380]

in bens scene they had a spark of light from the train tracks, it kind of looked like the magic sparkly things so maybe it symbolizes the doppelgangers also having powers

[@hari2946]

I NOTICED THE SAME THING! It appeared 2 times I think

[@bosoudang]

Or he actually the umbrella's Ben, he went to another universe, and lost his power like the others when they arrived. Idk but i really hope umbrella's Ben will be back, i dont want sparrow's Ben hahaha

[@0mnom519]

I wish we could've known more of Marcus 😭

[@Malo0465]

Fr but they always got to ruin the black man 😂:(

[@0mnom519]

@@Malo0465 yes, he's been done dirty He was intriguing as a character

[@roy.shrestha]

SAME. Marcus had so much potential

[@miguelf.gomesbalde9530]

@@0mnom519 I don't mean to be rude by questioning it, but why do you say that about him, exactly? He seemed pretty boring and (to my dismay) one-dimensional to me. All the Sparrows kinda were though, even Sloan, unfortunately.

[@fatihtaskaya6261]

@@miguelf.gomesbalde9530 Exactly, lol. I don't understand why everyone keeps saying that they loved the Sparrows. Ben was totally insufferable, Marcus was a simple, one-dimensional character as you said. Jayme and Alphonso were annoying as hell. Christopher was, well, a cube, so... Fei had started to grow on me but she clearly stated that she planned to kill the Umbrella team in the morning after they dealt with Kugelblitz, so she got what she deserved. Literally the only Sparrow I liked and felt sorry for possibly not seeing again is Sloane.

[@StellaLoreley]

What I’m curious about next season is if Reg is really going to be the main antagonist and how mad the team will be with Alisson. I’m really hoping for another antagonist because, boy, Reg has been here for a long, long time

[@johnnyp1986]

A show can have an antagonist but it doesn’t mean it’s the main villain. I think throughout the show Reginald has been a device to instill problems for the heroes but I do not think in any seasons has he been the main villain. I think the show is building up to him being a villain OR May try to redeem him, who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@kevinderoo3880]

Honestly we don't know much about Reg yet. Season 4 will definitely explore more of Reg's existence; his backstory, him being an alien, who his wife is, why he created/adopted the Academy and what he knows of the universe. Since the ending of season 3 shows a world controlled by Reg we can definitely expect him to be the antagonist again.

[@wb3159]

He was here, but we wasn't really here. He was background mostly in seasons 1-3

[@artuovillegas9609]

I think Luther will end up hating Allison for his wife Sloane’s disappearance

[@arturovillegas1128]

@@artuovillegas9609 I just hope Luther will find and reunite with his wife Sloane before the show ends.

[@wickedviscus2139]

I think season 4 will have doppelgängers! I’m excited! Hope we see a Spanish speaking Diego / Korean speaking Ben / Mormon Klaus. Like, what would have been

[@ryanwilliams382]

They did mention doppelgänger in one of the episodes can’t remember which one

[@johnnyp1986]

Not you getting Amish and Mormon confused 😭

[@wickedviscus2139]

@@johnnyp1986 my bad lol

[@theboy6888]

I can’t imagine klaus as an Amish 😂

[@janejane6754]

Amish and Mormon that made me laugh

[@natfranklin]

I really like the doppelgänger theory! However both Ben and Diego have lost their scars from the restart, and I think it was confirmed that it’s sparrow ben in the mid credit scene.

[@elliezzz7812]

Am I the only one that noticed that reg knew about the moon mission that he sent Luther on in another timeline so does that mean his wife was up there on both timelines or has reg traveled thru both timelines meaning he could’ve knew about EVERYTHING he done to them

[@RagnarokMic]

The mother was never around when he adopted the kids, hence Robo-Mom, so I'd assume she was on the moon at the point the timelines diverge.

[@ErenaaLamb]

She always was on the moon, every Reg in every timeline knows that. This Reg in season 3 did not know that he send Luther to the moon, but Luther told him that the Reg they grew up send him there for "nothing". Season 3 Reg knows that it wasn't for nothing though, as he knows his wife is up there. He also said to Luther that it wasn't for nothing and he will see soon why.

[@rafayaga8200]

@@ErenaaLamb well fellow bunny feng main … I think you’re right but I always have this feeling that the cheeky old man pretends to be from a different timeline to hide his secrets

[@ErenaaLamb]

@@rafayaga8200 If that is the case, that would be an extremely good plot twist, ngl

[@elliezzz7812]

@@ErenaaLamb but there’s another clue that suggests he’s been in both timelines as in the first episode he says something along the lines of “I saw what a mess you made in 1960s” but there mothers were killed by Harlan that day as we see that 27 mothers died that day and that only 16 special children were born that day , and the fact he says he says he SAW it then it kinda suggest he witnessed it and with him not aging as well either it’s cus he doesn’t age the same as an alien or that he has been travelling thru time , BUT THATS JUS A THEORY

[@annareifer2249]

Ben has also lost his scar after they arrive in the new reality, plus everyone has lost their tattoos, which you can see very well on Klaus (Maybe it's Umbrella Ben and not Sparrowben, after all Allison's action seems to have brought Luther back from the dead, would make sense for her to do the same for Umbrella Ben.)

[@annareifer2249]

@Kohai I had the idea, because Sloane was gone, that it might be Umbrella Ben.

[@sticksstan9179]

@@annareifer2249 yea and the actor who plays Sloane said she is not dead

[@QuanLovesGaming]

I think both Bens exist.

[@senyadezotti2413]

Harlan nevet met Ben since he was dead, nor he knew about his existence and vibration, so he had no capacity or interest in killing Ben's mother. So yeah that's the nice Ben on the train, which leads to a doppelganger problem

[@brodie112]

Harlan never met the others either he killed 27 women he only met 6 of the kids so that can’t be the reason. But why did he only kill 27 instead of all of them is the question

[@ErenaaLamb]

@@brodie112 Exacttly, those numbers make no sense because Harlan said that he thought he felt Viktor (and the others from the Academy) coming back for him again, but he was just feeling the mothers instead. But Harlan never met 27 of special children. He only met 8 of them. The 7 from the Academy and Lila. So logically, he would have only felt those. So why did 27 women die? How could he feel the others, when he never met the children? It's so weird. And I don't know if they just have the numbers wrong or if they actually will reveal a logical reason.

[@yaboyjackiechan1483]

@@ErenaaLamb i think the answers pretty simple, 47 kids were born but it was stated that not all of the kids survived, most likely 20 kids died so there's 27 kids that are still alive in total, we only know of 14 of these kids so theres 13 other kids we haven't met yet that are out there

[@ErenaaLamb]

@@yaboyjackiechan1483 I'm not sure anymore but I always thought they said that is was 27 women that died the day they would have given birth. I checked episode 2 again but they didn't say anything about the number, maybe I got it wrong. But yeah, the confusion is more that Harlan didn't know all of the 27 women nor all the children that died and didn't get born that day. If it was only the 7 mothers that died your point of course makes sense.

[@Melissa.Garrett]

Maybe it was as simple as geography? His power began to reach out from that hospital, found the nearest mothers, and before his power reached all the way to Seoul he realised what was happening and withdrew. The surviving 16 mothers were the ones farthest from Harlan, geographically.

[@nujoli100]

I think Reginald programmed the new universe to have Luther alive again and basically all the damage done to the others reversed. Remember when Viktor was about to blast Allison but she asked for him to trust her, I think it's because she knew things would work out.

[@joits]

So part of Season 4 will be about the ramifications of Allison's deal and a realization that her "ideal world" isn't as perfect as she thinks it is and will come with severe consequences...

[@arturovillegas1128]

Allison wanted both her 2nd husband Ray and her daughter Claire back that she didn't care about the consequences, until it finally catches up to her.

[@brentgarcia8334]

Theory 1 : 4-5 year timeskip, Season 4 takes place on Mid 2023-2024. If when the release date is. They officially announced that 4th Season is going to be the final season, they haven’t announced when is the release date but if the final season is released in that year, that’s the exact same year in Umbrella Academy Season 4. Theory 2: The Handler is somehow connected to Reginald Hargreeves, like somehow she probably knows who he is back then, like she’d met him before, like time and space, right.

[@sam.onella]

I had a theory that (I forget her name, maybe Lila?? the blonde one strung up with diego) Lila lost her baby due to the machine. It sucked the life out of her and she nearly died, I didn't think the fetus would've been able to survive that. Women have lost pregnancies for a lot less (yet still traumatic events). It would also be some hardships for the characters since they both seemed to want the baby- PLUS in this new timeline, maybe their powers aren't the only thing that didn't transfer over. If it wasn't the life-sucking machine that did it, maybe it was the journey to the new timeline.

[@arturovillegas1128]

If so then Lila and Diego would want revenge against Allison, hell I bet Luther would want revenge against Allison for Sloane's disappearance. So let's just say season 4 will not be a good season for Allison, but after what she did back in season 3 she will get what she deserves.

[@quoist3791]

Theory : - Reginald is an alien and had nuclear war in his planet and lost his wife. (S1EP10) - Reginald plans to reset a universe to be with his wife again by building a "Universe alter machine" that uses "special particles" to power it.(S3EP10) - Reginald release these "special particles" into humans to grow more of it.(S1EP10) The more the humans strengthen their power, the more these particles grow. That's why he kept training the kids and build the Oblivian with Sumurais to make it almost impossible. Reginald once said "One truly discovers true potential when faced near extinction" while pogo was training them. (S3EP6) - Reginald was simply on Earth to build Oblivian, preserve his wife on the moon, and train kids to reach full power to be extracted at Oblivian. - Five attempted the Oblivian more than once - In the 2nd last attempt , Five did not step on the star. & realised Reginald was evil & trying to alter the universe with himself having full control & impossible to defeat. So he killed Reginald & reprogrammed the machine to create a post apocalypse world where the entire umbrella gang and Reginald dies, he also build the commission to prevent anyone from stopping the apocalypse. - Five created the operation bunker anti-paradox incase the commission failed to stop his younger self from altering the timeline. He could at least warn young Five himself to let Kugelblits destroy the universe than to allow Reginald activate Oblivian. - Reginald figured Five would stop him when activating Oblivian when Five said his older self told him to not save the world. That's why Reginald killed Luther and Klaus to ensure exactly 7 ppl enter Oblivian to be occupied by the star. When Klaus revived, Reginald ensured that Five stepped on it instead of Allison (whom is stupid as hell). - Therefore everyone ended in the new universe, with no powers and all companies was named after Reginald. - Sloane did not come to the new universe as Allison only asked for her siblings to be safe. In return for convincing Umbrella to attempt Oblivian. However they might find an alternative Sloane - Allison will not have powers, as it will threaten Reginald's control Season 4 : - Everyone found out Reginald is evil - There's a glitch in the universe. As Allison killed Reginald when he hasn't completely format the universe during Oblivian. - The glitch helped Umbrella stop Reginald. I'm insanely hyped for season 4 Best series ever

[@silvapmari]

Did anyone notice the creepy smiley people observing the group in the hotel lobby? Are these NPCs not important at all or is there something about them? Any thoughts?

[@PS-qw5np]

I did too! The lady with the fur hat. Tried looking up who they are and couldn’t find ANYTHING

[@jaegilbert2681]

@@PS-qw5np the people in the hotel who were always looking at them are from a different time line! At the start when we see reginald in the hotel with people who looked old fashioned they were one of them in the background. they are dressed in that same timezone and it makes sense. it looked abnormal cause they probs havent seen people like that!

[@mtan1293]

They are basically like NPCs, the hotel is a facade as what Reggie had explained... so it is not a functioning hotel... the people inside are like fake people to make the hotel looks real...their fashion are not even updated.

[@connorrowe6071]

I believe Hargreeves was so rough on all of his kids and making them study alot of ridiculous things because he knew they would need to adapt to life without powers after his plan was complete and if he could educate them enough they wouldn’t need powers anymore to be powerful in this new world he’s created hopefully not just for him but his entire family.

[@randomname9291]

7:20 it also doesn’t explain how viktor was able to power up even after the machine extracted his particles. Alison still looked like she was hurt so it seems her body didn’t go through “factory resets like the rest, meaning she probably still has her powers though.

[@teachcinematicstv2798]

Hmmm will she rumor their powers back!?

[@randomname9291]

@@teachcinematicstv2798 there is absolutely no way for that to happen

[@user-ui6mm9ph3y]

@@randomname9291 actually it can, Allison’s power isn’t just compulsion in the comics she can reality warp to the point where she accidentally made a clone of herself so she could sneak out of the house we actually saw a hint to this is season 2 (I heard a rumor that I blew your minds) so if she said “I heard a rumor you all had your old powers back” it could definitely work

[@randomname9291]

@@user-ui6mm9ph3y key word is the comics.

[@Iovesaint]

@@randomname9291 her powers were amplified by harlan’s this season. its definitely not out of the realm of possibility for allison to finally be able to manipulate reality next season lol

[@sobreaver]

Third video I watch before someone actually 'EXPLAINS' anything about the show instead of simply recapping what we saw, even though I'm not expecting everything to be true, or false, at least, I got what the title says, soo thank you FLICKS AND THE CITY, you did a great job here, kudo !

[@FlicksAndTheCity]

Thank you!

[@theylied1776]

The Grandfather paradox is a false theory. A grandfather paradox is based on the premise that there is an original timeline. By the very nature of having two timelines disproves that there is a paradox that can happen, and that time already exists in several dimensions. Time is not linear, it is dimensional.

[@FlicksAndTheCity]

Good point and after Season 2 I kind of thought the same that there was a multiverse. But after watching Season 3 and thinking about it some more I think (can't be sure) The Umbrella Academy time travel works more on a single-timeline type of idea, in very fuzzy terms. I mean the Commission created a whole video about the Grandfather paradox, so I think in this specific fictional world it does exist, and clearly from Season 3, it will bring about the end of the universe.

[@theylied1776]

@@Benjamin-lf1ld The perception of time is linear. As Einstein's theory proves, time is relative.

[@Benjamin-lf1ld]

@@theylied1776 yeah that’s Einstein’s theory, as I said there are no actual prove only theories.

[@theylied1776]

@@Benjamin-lf1ld Einstein's theory is what we based the space program and the atomic bomb on. So, I'm pretty sure his theory of relatively has been proven several times.

[@theylied1776]

@@Name-cz5jj When did I claim either project involved Time Travel? Do you know what Einstein's Theory is? Both the space program and nuclear research wouldn't have been possible without Einstein's theory involving Mass and Energy. You might want to look it up. It will make your replies less asinine.

[@StellaLoreley]

If this was a Pitch Meeting it would have ended with: “‘And then they left’ ‘Where did they go?’ ‘All the way to season 4, sir’”

[@gamerdweebentertainment1616]

But it ended nicely wrapped up. But Money SIR. I do love money!

[@lauratae3878]

After the Harlan incident Allison's powers evolved and became stronger but they didn't have any purpose after that. She tried stopping Reg with them while he was draining her siblings, but it didn't even work. My theory is that everyone got their powers sucked by the machine but her, and she is going to use those new and enhanced powers to rumor her family into getting their powers back.

[@23Brayden]

The dad didn’t know Klaus was coming back to be one of the seven bells he said he was fascinated when klaus came back so he must’ve planned to kill Allison and then saw a chance to make him still look good without one person yelling at him and took it idk

[@unicornzombielove]

Reginald honored his deal with Allison because her knew that she would be the only one left with her powers and he's betting she won't ever use them again and/or communicate with the rest of her siblings because she'll do anything to keep her daughter and husband. He's been scheming this plan for hundreds of years maybe longer but despite all that there's always a loose string. Allison is the loose string but he's basically tied it into a bow by giving her the only thing she ever wanted.

[@laurahero8778]

I hope season 4 is based on revenge on Alison’s selfishness! All she cared about was her losses that yes were hard but no, not weren’t the only ones that happened. Using her family for an ideal life. Wow.

[@artuovillegas9609]

I have a bad feeling that Allison will be facing some horrible consequences in season 4

[@bingewatcherfanatic996]

Not a bad season but not a good season either. I have mixed feelings overall and have to do a second rewatch. The issue with this season that it isn't story focus as the previous 2 seasons and Alison arc in specific was hard to watch. I think episodes 7 - 10 saved the season but it's finale left alot unanswered questions and the season was hard to watch because of too many plotlines, wanted to see more of the sparrows aswell hopefully we'll see them next season because they felt like a wasted opportunity this season. 7/10 Klaus , Luther , Viktor and Five were the best characters in this season to me.

[@maniyang4988]

Yeah they butchered Allison's character and made her more of an evil cliche like Ben this season

[@miguelf.gomesbalde9530]

The Sparrows were, indeed lost potential. I wonder if they did a better job with them in the comics, being that (from what I know) the Sparrows are from the same timeline as the Umbrellas (and thus didn't need to disappear)

[@neuroticnation144]

Five is definitely my favorite character, he’s deep, complex and well fleshed out. He’s able to counsel the others bringing insight to the other characters. Plus when he does nice things for people it’s so much nicer coming from him.

[@connordillivan452]

Allison still has her powers. Reginald said the machine fed off the particles in their bodies which gave them powers and, following the reset, is the reason they no longer have them. But Allison wasn’t standing on a star and I believe she still has her powers. Further, I suspect there is a reason it was shown those particles can move from one person to another, as between Victor and Harlan. My guess is the narrative drive will be discovering the source of those particles, where to get more, and making the Umbrella academy work even more closely as a team by swapping which one among them has their power at any given moment until they all get their powers back.

[@ew_rbr]

luther was dead at the time and did not stand on a sigil to get the particles sapped from his body so how does that explain him losing his powers in the alternate timeline?

[@MichiiTejeda]

or if Allison still has her powers she can rumour the power back to her siblings more like ''I've heard a rumor you got ur powers back'' xD

[@boom5732]

​@@MichiiTejedaI think she can basically just mind control people I'm not sure she can wish for whatever she wants

[@tiffanyde-vil08]

Firstly, love love LOVE the show and everything about it. Secondly, i cannot STREE how much i have gone from loving allison to completely hating her! like yes, she wanted her daughter and her husband back but her selfishness caused her to lose herself. she's abused her powers, blamed victor for everything that's happened (sorta was he fault but because he was neglected throughout his entire childhood) and made unnecessary sacrifices such as killing off harlen. what i belive is that she's not dead though a lot of people say that. i think that she's in the same timeline as her siblings and reg. what i found weird was that when we see allison go to her 'home' she still had her wounds from before. but the rest of the family didnt and they also don't have their powers anymore. the doppelgänger theory makes sense though, but as many people have seen in other movies that include seeing another version of urself in the same timeline has caused some catastrophic events. tbh i basically have no idea where i'm going with this but season 4 better come soon!!

[@frankenviews4069]

Such an amazing show. Loved the 3rd season. Loved the 1st and 2nd too. I think the 4th season will have a time jump and will at least begin as a "what if?" situation where they all experience what their lives would have been as normal people. Then of course, things go crazy and adventures lead to them eventually returning to a world where they are the Umbrella Academy with all their powers to a timeline they recognize.

[@theronzybabes]

We need this video. I so understand it now. Thanks!

[@Sgtspork]

About Ben on the train at the end.. it's been confirmed by the show runner that that's the Sparrow version of Ben we've met in season three.

[@KacciVAL]

Well it is if you drop a source

[@Sgtspork]

While the actor didn't have much context to share, showrunner Steve Blackman provided some clarity on this ending. "I can only tell you that is the Sparrow Ben you met in Season 3," he said of the post-credits scene. "It's not ghost Ben, it's not a Ben from that Umbrella timeline. It's the Ben that we met this season, it's that Ben on the train."

[@Mondrart]

I have a time bucle theory, season 1 trough 3 are a time loop, but on the final episode something changes, early that season we saw old 5 and he is the founder of the commission, and he says "don't save the future" maybe this wasn't a warning like "i did and was terrible" more like a order "don't do it and everything will be fine" the clue here it's the missing arm, 5 got his arm cut off before powering the machine, and the final star was pending, they cut on Allison and 5 and then 5 makes the move, saves the world, this leaves Allison with her dad, and he make changes in the machine, that works like a make your own universe, he make the changes he wanted and the changes Allison wanted, and gets killed before pressing the botón, this is the Bad ending, what if originally five doesn't saves the world, and Allison steps on the star, 5 would have killed his dad with no doubt and he wouldn't have make any change in the universe, restarting the same, 5 still misses his arm and founds the commission to preserve this timeline so his father never wins, but since this didn't happens Regy wins, and they reboot the universe, since he no longer needs the power of the children, they don't have they powers, and part of the deal with Allison was to make sure her brothers were ok, that why they all are in one piece, and that's why they are 2 bens

[@jordynwoodss]

Love this season so much

[@rosie676711]

If Hargreaves and his wife rule this world is it possible they impregnated many more with superpowers? His wife was is stasis but this timeline she’s alive and well. Could this be how they are rulers of this land? Nice twist at the end and great season.

[@arborealj6639]

Really enjoyed this season hopefully there will be a season 4

[@akramsyafiq3028]

Should be,there is still many unanswered questions

[@jackhanver1420]

This is all Diego's fault cuz here me out: In the first time-line (S1) Reginald never tried to use the umbrella academy to use oblivion because he had found a second love during Kennedy Era which made him "soft" Diego out of pettiness decided to mess with his father "date" which led her to leave Reginald early

[@ner4534]

Wow I like this theory!

[@pat_alonso]

Ooor - it could be that Allison actually died, hence her "perfect happy place"

[@larkynria2223]

😱

[@pat_alonso]

@@larkynria2223 I know right?! #MindBlown 🤯

[@handlershandlingsssss]

I have been thinking the same thing since Klaus said something about someone's version of heaven/afterlife during his scene with Luther on the Balloon House. So her reuniting with Claire and Ray might be her ideal afterlife but at the same time since Reggie resets the universe, that's the universe that Reggie gave for Allison which means she's living in a different universe(idk) because every sibling has their wounds healed but hers is still in there so she might be really alive

[@miguelf.gomesbalde9530]

@@handlershandlingsssss I don't think they'd ever put one of the siblings in a different universe than the others. Why focus as such on one? How many episodes their come back would take away from the show? What I actually wonder is if Reggie will remember helping Alison in making this universe. Probably not tho.

[@pat_alonso]

@Kohai so she died? Loool

[@houseofdynasty3835]

Allison filled in her own will continuing what Hargreeves started. That's why Ben is back. I think Allison being still in love with Luther got rid of Sloan. Hargreaves didn't get a chance to finish creating his ideal universe because of Allison. The last I believe is her version. Hope that makes sense

[@pnam1497]

This has been the best ending explanation I’ve seen!

[@gothprincess0705]

The front and back covers of the book Ben is holding in this scene have an almost identical pattern to the way the guardians' faces were, like being made of honeycombs. I don't know if this is a coincidence, but I noticed it and wanted to mention it in case it does come up later. ;)

[@seblling]

Bro you wish you you found something 😂

[@gothprincess0705]

@@seblling Right?! 😂 Probably it's insignificant, but the pattern stood out, hence my noticing.

[@breonnasmith4830]

I think it’s funny how Netflix made eleven loose her powers at the end of 3 and now they did the same thing with the umbrella academy 😂

[@Tcheera]

One potential mistake here - the 1928 vs. 1918 scenes with Hargreeves are DEFINITELY not proof of a different timeline. In 1918 Hargreeves is in Japan at the portal making HOTEL OBLIVION - this is evidenced by all the Japanese workers and the plans that do not make any sense. This predates his 1928 entry into the US, presumably at Ellis Island. He probably built Hotel Obsidian after and created a connective tunnel between the two white buffalo rooms, but one is clearly American themed and the other is clearly Japanese themed. It makes sense that Oblivion's plans would be far more complicated since it is on the inside at least a shifting maze that cannot be left once it's built. The only real complication in Obsidian is the WB room. Also ... there is nothing to show that 1928 was his first arrival either. For all we know he could've been on earth since the paleolithic era, with his wife sitting on the moon waiting for earth to evolve enough for him to have what he needs to build the two hotels.

[@kiram17]

I really hope they get their powers back in s4

[@alphastormeex9468]

I feel like they have to honestly. Like it will be cool to see how they're all getting along without them, but I hope they get them back pretty soon

[@lordvenjix3757]

Amazing video 👌

[@josepablodeleon6073]

The showrunner has said that Post credit Ben is the same Ben we've seen all season.

[@sciencesold_]

Wouldn't the mere existence of their doppelgangers in this timeline mean that they have powers? If it wasn't for the glowing particles, they probably never would have been born.

[@nataliecarrington2550]

The Obsidian Monument that was in the park at the very end of the final episode, I think, might be a nod to the fact that on October 1, 1989, 43 women *didn't* spontaneously give birth.

[@rytrav9607]

Steve Blackman (the creator of the show) confirmed that the Ben in the post credit scene is actually the sparrow academy Ben. Source: Interview with Men’s Health

[@ed04182001]

Thanks Jan😍

[@ZephyrBW]

Season 4 Allison really has a lot to answer for

[@ZephyrBW]

@topher316 she’s grieving but she took it too far. Like someone else o know

[@horizongames8436]

I don’t know how you’ve missed this but the elevator they come out of at the end is the telivator

[@95l0uis]

My theory is that when he rewrited the universe, his wife didnt die. So he had no reason to free the sparks and the umbrellas didnt get theyr powers. They werent raised by hargreves in this universe, because he dont need them here. Luther didnt transofm to a monkey, Ben never died. Problem with that Theory: Would they even be born if he didnt relese the sparks? Maybe they where the future children of theyr moms, born ahead of time from the sparks, so they would be born naturaly at a later time, without sparks.

[@FlicksAndTheCity]

What do you think about that ending of Season 3?! 😲🤔

[@rufarojunior]

The ending was really good and I enjoyed the twist at the end

[@yoquese365]

@@rufarojunior Im sorry, what was the twist?

[@johndaniels5383]

@@rufarojunior good?! It let me confused. Like what the hell does this ending mean any way

[@rizzyknows]

The CGI was appalling

[@RJ-sm2cg]

@@rufarojunior i assumed that there were doppelgangers and stuffs in the next season. The other one had powers and them powerless. Its interesting to see what would be next.

[@fernandogarza1360]

Amazing can't wait for season 4 5 6 7 and 8

[@sopowx]

I have a theory on why sloane was missing. Remember the machine of the universe? Notice the squares representing the sigils, AKA the seven of them? One of them isn't glowing like the others. So that only makes 6 glowing squares meaning maybe only 6 will be able to make it through once the dimension is reseted. Maybe Sloane was left out because her sigil wasn't lighting up.

[@_notella]

in the second season I think, or the start of the first, didn’t the scene cut to Reginald at the end, showing him taking his ‘human face mask’ off revealing him being an alien, but the end scene if season 3 reveals him as a robot?

[@showman5684]

That Ben in the subway is Sparrow Ben, the creators have confirmed that

[@ellisk712]

I thought I saw some of those magic lights in the scene with Ben on the subway

[@belljdr]

If klaus didnt come back wouldnt the deal be off since allison had to step on the sigil?

[@anonym9713]

Maybe he trained Klaus because of this, so he can get alive faster

[@belljdr]

@@anonym9713 ohh good touche but he said it was impossible for klaus to be alive in that dimension they were in

[@miguelf.gomesbalde9530]

So are we to suppose he intended to break the deal, but ultimately changed his mind? That would be interesting

[@DragaXZ]

He initially wanted to betray Allison but since there were too many now, he decided it would be better to be stuck with Allision instead of with five. He probably figured that five is too smart and would have killed Reginald and rewrite the machine to create the commision instead.

[@wyerscor5599]

The magical lights are also at the outside of the train in the post credit scene 7:31… I found that quite important… maybe that’s a way how they get their powers back.

[@mvee2356]

I think it's just Sparks from the train..

[@kerriirvin5206]

Thanks

[@retrocanadianlife7666]

My theory is the double gangers are the Members with the powers. And the team we been following that are at the end of s3. Have no powers. I feel 5 seeing himself create the commission and having his arm again means there is no commission again aswell. Or his double ganger starts it in S4. And doing a giant time loop to S1 to stop Bens Death and 5 from leaving so early

[@JandorGr]

We made one small kistake, but awesoem vid overall. 5 spoke of what happens when anyone meets his other timeline self, it these things happen while he is about to find his older self.

[@atiiisalar9997]

Great review ......... Seriously

[@DarlaMack]

Lol the hotel floor reminded me of the video game Q-Bert

[@devantedenson1301]

Nice videos this season was good for closing Umbrella's arc.We went from a dead Ben to 2 Bens.Luther from lonely to Married.Klaus useless/avoiding to being the pivotal part of saving this apacalyps.Alisson n Victor had the worst relationship to saving the team together.Shit Reginald went from maniacle alien to sympthetic psycho husband.

[@sofiakitekar]

The small parts where Reginald and Klaus were interacting were kinda wholesome. Like the wedding, the tip about the pills etc. It was great to see this supposed "heartless monster" turn to "wholesome dad" just for a short while y'know.

[@devantedenson1301]

@@sofiakitekar shit that showed how manipulative this alien is, that was the long con. He hit Luther wit the quick mind games then got’em💯

[@JavierMartinez-oj3rg]

When you said, Reginald Hargreaves basically went through time or he lead through time multiple times to get the opportunity to rewrite the universe, or to save the people. He loved right remind me of the theory from somebody else on KZbin said about the umbrella Academy, that number five was in fact, Reginald Hargreaves, kinda like how Dumbledore and Ron Weasley are the same person since Reginald Hargreaves is a genius he might’ve discovered the power of travel since he knew about it explaining the creation of the commission but of course that was washed up after seeing season three but then again, you might have a point although the sparrow timeline said he didn’t have any memories of the umbrellas by chance, it could just be him watching over the events of history with a machine that keeps an eye in anomalies but then again, if he did have the power of travelers disposal, and maybe he was watching the events from different points of time and different timelines that might also explain why he was able to plan things out so thoroughly why he was able to build his wealth to

[@allisondennis2662]

just watched season 3 loved it

[@2sxa3all]

Ngl I’m ready for season 4

[@dadondonnersupreme7660]

You know Hargreaves found the door to oblivion, had the hotel(s) constructed to hide its existence and knows there is an extra-dimensional universe building machine there, but that does not mean he is the creator/builder or even knew how the machine worked in the first place. Whenever it shows the flashback scene of Hargreaves originally sending that military team into oblivion to try and defeat it, this shows that he did not know what he was doing, rather just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. At that time he didn't emphasize there having to be 7 people for the sigil which suggests that Hargreaves had to learn and develop a plan and possibly many plans till one worked. Fast-forward to season 3 end and not only does Hargreaves know the need of 7 powered people but also how to work the machine, which suggests this is not his first reset and he has possibly been working on this conclusion for quite some time, with the ultimate goal being a new world where his wife can live and where he can set up the events to lead to this circumstance (but honestly with a universe building machine, seems like you would be able to create whatever possible version of the universe you wanted without consequences)

[@big33hurt]

This is the best explanation of the season finale

[@mohitkumar-vm6zl]

Allison dropped her brain while cutting her hair 🤣

[@EldritchCloak]

I definitely don't condone Allison's actions, but they were understandable.

[@lstarsabb]

understandable to a point

[@xxxtasiaxxxpony6757]

they ruined her character so much smh

[@johnnyp1986]

It’s like doing the wrong thing for the right reason, but in hindsight had she known that old geezer was going to off everyone she wouldn’t have agreed to make a deal. Heck, she’s the one that stopped him from killing them.

[@johnnyp1986]

@@xxxtasiaxxxpony6757 I don’t think so bc tbh I LOVED her character development. She turned into a bad b**** and I was HERE for it.

[@xxxtasiaxxxpony6757]

@@johnnyp1986 she s** luther WDYM?

[@ToastedSynapseGaming]

Theory time: What do you think would have happened if Alisson didn't kill Hargreeves in the machine? - My take is that just like Alisson, Reginald would have come out in this new world and his first thought would have been to search for his wife, Abigail... That's all fine and dandy, but just like Ben1 and Ben2, Abigail would have been next to her husband, Reginald1 (who would have no idea about Umbrellas, Sparrows and master plans). So this Reginald2 which would emerge from Oblivion in search of his wife would probably want to kill and replace his other self (somehow also explaining or tricking Abigail that it's all fine). Yeah... would have been a head scracher. - But he could have also ended up in another timeline if we believe that Allison is now in another timeline (with her powers intact and bandage on her arm). Then maybe Hargreeves would have been in that separate timeline. If so... why would he want that? Is there something special there? Is Abigail also there? Probably "Yes" if we believe he 'programed' this reality to get what they've always wanted. - Also would Allison make it back if she was neither in the machine nor on a bell/star at the end? Remember Hargreeves said "Not you" when she wanted to step on a bell, which would imply one of two things: 1. Standing on a bell gets you a different outcome or 2. The dastardly alien planned his death (or at least Allison's intervention) all along. He told her NOT to stand on a bell, because he needed her not to be drained and frail so that she could intervene to press the button in the cockpit. - I'm basically trying to piece together the apparently 3 separate places that one could stand on and where they take it/what they do: 1. Inside cockpit - maybe a programmed timeline; 2. On the stars/bells - in a world where Abigail never died, therefore no need to impregnate women with special alien dust and just expand the Hargreeves business; 3. Anywhere else in the hotel - no idea, but probably not important as it's maybe the same as number 2 (on the stars/bells) - Or maybe NONE of these are different and it's just what Hargreeves programmed into the machine so it wouldn't matter where they stood, their "jump" would have been programmed. So it wouldn't have mattered WHO pressed the button at the end. The script would have been written. What are you thoughts?

[@georgesabitpol]

Cant wait for season 4

[@Imbetterthanurfavs]

When the scene of Ben comes up there’s a QR code and when u scan it,it brings u to pogos tattoo shop website?

[@jac5499]

Please can someone tell me what episode that scene of Hargreeves with is dying wife is from?? It’s around 3:20. I literally have no memory of that when is it from??

[@christophercarr4661]

@flicksandthecity What are your thoughts on the fact that when 5met himself in the future he was still missing an arm?

[@xoxojadieeet]

I was just wondering. If Klaus died many times (56) and came back to live, shouldn't he have come back after the apocalypse of season one number five went to?

[@handlershandlingsssss]

Ohh that's a little tricky. It kind of makes sense because he's immortal so how come he died during apocalypse

[@miguelf.gomesbalde9530]

Maybe he did and Five just didn't find him? Or rather, maybe Klaus had no interest in coming back?

[@GreatAstuff]

It’s his choice to come back each time. He probably did but when he saw the apocalypse, decided death was better

[@handlershandlingsssss]

@@miguelf.gomesbalde9530 Five actually found him with his eyes half open, I think you're right since maybe he was staying in the afterlife for so long (he might want to stay in after life instead) but that's why in s3, Reggie made him go back to life for a short period of time

[@sofiakitekar]

He probably thought that afterlife was better and went back to the void.

[@bernardoaragon2929]

Season 3 was amazing! Looking forward to Season 4. This is one of the best shows in Netflix.

[@dennis2376]

You forgot the tattoo. :) I also wonder about Allison husband, something seems off about him.

[@steve4158]

This shows Reginald never cared about his adopted kids. They were just a means to an end.

[@jairoiii6571]

7:45 It also hints that it’s umbrella academy ben Because that was his hairstyle He had it season 1-2 And the episode that had pogo in season 3 flashback

[@TheStupidGuyInYT]

problem i have with this doppelganer theory is that the supes were born unnaturally without a father. why would we assume that the umbrella's respective moms would give birth to them since there would be a different set of dna granted by the fathers'?am i tripping?

[@glorichu480]

I think Hargreeves would still let the super babies be born bc they are the power source for alien tech. He would keep them just in case he needs to reset the timeline again? But he wouldn't raise them himself because he has seen how he creates messed up kids that hate him OR he is able to raise them to be obedient bc he has his wife to help make them a real "family".

[@snazzy5783]

At the end scene I assumed that Ben didn’t have a doppelgänger- at least in the traditional sense- and instead the other Ben was his twin. Since the very beginning the Umbrella Academy was saying how different this Ben was to the other and Hargreaves already said he put forth an effort to try and get children completely different than the Umbrella academy. One thing that wouldn’t make sense is have the universe reset the universe to how it should be -even resurrecting the dead, Luther- and the overlook something as crucial as doppelgängers. Although it seems like a stretch, in the comics, Luther and 5 were twins. Something they changed in the show...as far as we know...The only problem I see with this theory is why both Bens would have the same powers -unless the Umbrella Academy Ben is the same as the Sparrow academy Ben-, why there was no second baby in the beginning scene on the train, and why they were only willing to give up one of the babies to Hargreaves. Although it could easily be written off as two being a handful. One more thing, before I shut up, is why did Hargreaves kill himself in the alternate dimension if his ultimate goal all along has been to bring back his wife? Unless for some reason his motives changed after adopting the Umbrella academy. Anyways, I’m going to stop needing out.