Umpires HATE This Player

[@ryguystix]

2:58 That one Eephus is CRAZY 💀

[@reesehyduk9752]

Gotta be a position player right?

[@RonPlayzRoblox635]

@@reesehyduk9752 most definitely, pitchers usually don't throw eephus pitches unless they want to troll, but then again they're paid to throw their best in their arsenal

[@Multiplixi]

Jeff Mathis: "Ah yes, a worthy opponent. OUR BATTLE WILL BE LEGENDARY!"

[@emmanuelvacakis4463]

Umpires must learn to ignore how catchers catch balls.

[@Josh-y4r]

Its ingrained into them. That would be literally impossible. 😮

[@emmanuelvacakis4463]

@@Josh-y4r they need automated ball and strike calls badly. These are top quality athletes and they need to be rewarded for good play, not bad play. Automated ball and strike calls would be a huge step in the right direction. Fernando Valenzuela was given a no hitter on balls a foot outside being called strikes.

[@Gnar_Dogg]

Should really watch the video Jomboy just did on Francisco Alvarez/Adley Rutschman. The Mets were getting calls all game because how Alvarez was setup/framing.

[@GratefulInRecovery]

Orioles fan who watched that game, I actually noticed those calls. You cannot tell me that Rutsch is that much worse than the majority of catchers. That shocked me

[@TEEDUBS]

It was mainly about how close to the plate Rutschman was vs. Alvarez, chasing the Ump's viewing angle.

[@m.o.5291]

​​@@GratefulInRecoveryrutschman isnt just bad at framing. He's bad at showing the pitch to the umpire too. At 6'2 and 230 sitting as close to the plate as he does is crazywork. Ump cant see a thing. Alvarez is like 5'10 and sits lower making him even smaller and a lot further from the plate.

[@candidfob8423]

Umpires calling balls and strikes has always been an unfortunate necessity in the game of baseball. I'm so excited for when robo umps get introduced and we can watch catchers focus all their energy on playing real defense instead of playing slight of hand to fool geriatric old men. I wanna see catchers back on 2 feet, controlling the run game.

[@Uruz2012]

Crouching super low is terrible for your knees. They partly changed their stance to avoid damaging their bodies.

[@cococock2418]

exactly, and im shocked to not see more people saying this. it's like people are bragging about fooling old men. what about the pitchers? shouldn't they earn what they throw? if they throw a strike, it should be a strike.

[@candidfob8423]

@@Uruz2012 LMAO as if. If these teams gave a f*ck about catcher safety, they wouldn't be encouraging all of their catchers to creep up as close as they can to the batters box to steal low strikes - putting their glove arm dangerously close to most hitters' bat path. Go see the Wilson Contreras injury from earlier this year. Catcher interference calls and catcher hand/forearm injuries have been on a steady increase since framing became the sole focus of catcher defense. Player health and safety has NOTHING to do with why they have every catcher down on one knee lol

[@zombiekin.g]

Guys in my opinion this just makes him a more valuable and a better player. Framing at this level is really hard to do and it’s honestly impressive how he does it. If you didn’t know not every framer in the MLB are good at framing. There are a couple really good framers.

[@ARat-d1y]

Honestly the little league umpire stereotype is true, I hit a double that was well fair but my blindass ump called it foul so I went up again. Y’all already know I got called on a ball too, it’s just too relatable.😭🙏

[@williamdowling7718]

Fascinating stuff. But i have to push back on the idea that automated balls and strikes would make the catcher USELESS..... Thats asinine... The catcher is widely regarded as the leader on the field. They are the ones who are supposed to know what the current hitter's tendencies are and survey the field to make sure the defense is lined up properly. As you pointed out, a good catcher discourages stealing bases, or makes outs when guys try to steal. Catchers are important for a lot of reasons. Taking their ability to steal strikes wouldnt make them useless... Wow.

[@muhteyo201]

im a one year baseball fan, but I personally would not like robo umps. It ruins the emotion of the game imo and everything being 100% perfect is not fun

[@Wilytics]

It definitely is a tough decision, but I think the challenge system is a good compromise. Keeps framing in the game while correcting the more egregiously bad calls

[@yoduh4077]

Personally I feel like umpires with egregiously bad balls ruin the emotion of the game far more than correct calls would.

[@1who4me]

@@Wilyticsyou think slowing down the game to challenge every ball and strike is a good thing? What?

[@sam7932]

⁠@@1who4meyea I’m _sure_ he wants them to review EVERY pitch

[@fiercedeitylink2019]

​@@1who4methat's not what the challenge system does...

[@schlootle]

"Unfortunately framing may soon be gone" I disagree that its unfortunate, framing is probably the most frustrating stat in the sport. Pitchers should be awarded for great located pitches, while batters should be awarded for having a good eye. Automated strike and ball calls is necessary IMO

[@benkofi8570]

@@schlootle facts

[@Wilytics]

I do think it is best in the long run to do automated balls and strikes. Though, framing is one of the many things that makes baseball unique to other sports. It gave long careers to players that wouldn’t have otherwise been valuable. There isn’t another sport where a guy like Jeff Mathis exists, which is what makes baseball special. I think moving to the challenge system right now is the correct move however

[@benkofi8570]

@@Wilytics You're right it's unique in that framing (which I call unsportsmanlike because it is meant to deceive umpires) is rewarded. I don't know of another single act in sport which is deceitful to officials which is as heralded by fans, teams and players alike but unpunished by officials.

[@williamdowling7718]

​@@Wilytics a perfect example of how unique doesn't necessarily mean good. Sports officiating should be objective. If baseball is unique in its highly subjective officiating, then that's a bad thing. Because then everything from "whos hitting?" To "who's pitching?" To "what's the score?" to "is it a close game?" To "was this batter mouthing off during their last at bat? " Become relevant to the outcome of the play. It feels bad to lose because the umpire made the wrong call... But it should feel even worse to WIN because the umpire made the wrong call. The most correct name for "pitch framing" is "stealing strikes". You're stealing an unfair advantage. That shouldn't happen.

[@AgnusDeiGloria]

so based framing ruins baseball

[@TheGr8SageSama]

I was a catcher in high school and college, and I umpire a little as well I defiantly focus on the front of the plate more than anything. I even tell the catchers nice frame job on some balls but because I was a catcher for 7 years I know. But most Umpires just react to the catcher and the batter for some reason. Now on the MLB Level I can understand a ball going 85-104 is harder to judge and I believe they blink as the ball goes across the plate (natural reaction) but you will definably miss the placement of the ball most of the time blinking at the wrong time.

[@rmmiller159]

I think instead of getting robo umps, we should get rid of the live on-screen strikezone. Ever since they added it, people (myself included) have become so much more frustrated at umpires for missing calls, even when they're only a quarter inch off the zone. I think it would be more fair to the umps, more fun to watch, and less frustrating if we the on-screen zone away

[@TheGr8SageSama]

I 100% agree with especially when you notice that most HOME RUNS YOU SEE are always balls slightly off and a lot of batters get froze at pitches down the middle.

[@DO0O0OM69]

So teams should be weary of signing any free agent pitcher from the SF Giants (as long at Patrick Bailey is there)

[@USArmyVet91]

The guy is a hella good catcher. I don’t approve, but that takes some serious practice to perfect. He can also throw out runners trying to steal second.

[@Iridescence93]

robo umps would be a good change to be honest. Yes it sucks for the catchers who've made their career doing that but if you're a fan why wouldn't you want them to get the calls right? Spitballs used to be legal and a whole category of pitchers built up around throwing them. The game changes.

[@chris-808]

Even with roboumps, framing will still matter in HS and college until the tech is cheap enough, so it's going to be taught and practiced for a whiles. I like the challenge system as the compromise. Plus if we go full RoboUmp then there won't be theatric strikeout calls.

[@anasepho]

ABS fixes catchers legally cheating, makes every call just, and lets the players focus on playing better rather than deceiving and lying. There is no downside.

[@fiercedeitylink2019]

over 40% of the best defender in mlb history, yadier molina's, defensive runs comes from framing, at 151.1 framing runs and 375.7 total defensive runs.

[@Shinde425]

0:05 That face is how you can tell it was bad call, even the pitcher knew it smh

[@robertcoutts-i4j]

Why not use electronic means to judge pitches... and the ump can do the remaining tasks

[@Budnik93]

He drops his glove as the pitcher delivers and waits for the pitch that's coming, then catches it close to the the zone and frames it. The umps eyes aren't catching that.

[@justnick1836]

Awesome video! Production far above your sub count, hope you get more traction man!

[@RobZelinka]

There’s a difference between framing and pulling. Today’s catchers are pulling pitches by no less than 6-10 inches as illustrated in the video. That behavior would not be rewarded and rather punished. A catcher would ask where did you have the pitch? An umpire would respond, I don’t know, where did you have it?

[@soargle]

I will never understand how these “pro” umps get tricked like this. It’s where the ball crosses not where the catchers glove ends up

[@iitstre_4550]

My favorite part is that we had a solid 2 straight minutes of CLEARLY off balls That are somehow still being called strikes 😂😂. Not to mention how egregious the framing is in half of them. That must’ve been CB back there lmao

[@theblackhood4812]

Damn didn’t know Bailey was that good defensively🤣😭

[@valeriekeefe8898]

Subjective calls are inherent to competitive sports, imo. I like them even if I often get honked by some of them.

[@Lowbudgetsports]

This video’s B plot is that if Austin hedges even just hit league average he’d be one of the greatest in the league and making millions

[@XxXFlyingArmBarXxX]

Robo umps are not the answer. Umps have gotten better , we just notice the few really bad ones. We just need better people

[@TEEDUBS]

Dude you are REALLY good at what you do. Fantastic analysis.

[@Temptazer]

id defo prefer ABS over firing all umps and moving to robots. game just seems lifeless without them, and who are we supposed to blame

[@kevingrant5910]

Make framing illegal and if they get caught doing it 3 times in a game they are taken out.

[@Sandul666]

362 times is crazy, but only 15 more times than cal Raleigh, who is just as good at tricking the ump

[@obrother3750]

Yadi was the GOAT at this

[@ER-bz9xi]

Wilytics is a goated youtuber 🫡

[@chazm3]

I’m old enough to remember when sportsmanship was valued positively and gamesmanship negatively. I also remember when the strike zone was called like it’s written in the rulebook. Look it up - - - you won’t believe it.

[@TheGr8SageSama]

did the rule change since the last time you remember it ?

[@chazm3]

@@TheGr8SageSama No, umpires just ignore what the rule says is the top of the strike zone. The best theory is that the league ordered them to do it to increase the amount of hits.

[@matthewrobinson763]

Awesome stuff!!!

[@NobodyUR]

Framing only affects bad umpires

[@ZZSmithReal]

If the value of a catcher declines due to getting rid of framing advantages their salaries will also decline. Music to the opwners' ears. Also not sure why you're invested in valuing bending the rules. Greg Maddux routinely got strike calls on pitches 6 to 12 inches outside in the wide strike era. What makde that fair? It warped the results.

[@AgnusDeiGloria]

the day framing becomes obsolete is the day baseball makes progress towards a better future

[@PoohOnYourShoe]

The problem with Robo umps calling strikes and balls is that the strike zone is 3D, not 2D like stat-cast shows on TV. Strike zones are also not fixed over the plate, it varies with height and stance of the current batter, who also has a pre-swing stance and a swing stance. There’s just too many variables to use a computer.

[@bernardsimsic9334]

No way they should be calling balls and strikes any more rule interpretation cool but tech has made that stupid these days.

[@jawthaw]

Great video

[@JiveDadson]

I've always thought framing was akin to cheating. Award the batter a walk, i say.

[@vanbrooks]

its the catchers job - end of story

[@23ofSeptember]

They sure didn't like Brett Lawrie.

[@Center1240]

You should get mad at the umpires who are fooled by the good framing of the catchers. The catchers are doing their jobs competently, while the umpires, well, aren’t.

[@AmateurHourProdu]

Cant the league just select out any games with this catcher though as he's an outlier?

[@barrelrolltoday6051]

Pkease do not include Angel Hernandez in any of this. He is beyond terrible and was forced out of the game.

[@BigOwl44]

So bailey ruined The Umpire. That sucks.

[@luisz3354]

Nope the most important aspect of catching is game calling not framing

[@tyjay6796]

Nahhhhhhh bro umpires are aware of this so no its not framing. Umps are just bad bro

[@emmanuelvacakis4463]

And Philly will make the playoffs with a much better record than SF.

[@Diehardbucsfan]

What’s your point

[@emmanuelvacakis4463]

@@Diehardbucsfan all those extra strike calls are not enough to get the Giants into the playoffs. That shows how bad the Giants are.

[@zachansen8293]

Jesus christ the clickbait is so real. "catchers frame balls" doesn't make a good video, I guess. Downvote and do not recommend.

[@benkofi8570]

Honestly, I don't think framing should be allowed. Decieving the officials isn't really good sportmanship

[@tiramisu6135]

it is just a part of the game

[@benkofi8570]

@@tiramisu6135 That doesn't make it good. That's like saying unnecessary problem x is just a part of life so there's not point trying to change it. That's a lazy argument

[@courtneyvaldez7903]

@@benkofi8570You literally cannot remove the act of receiving a pitch in a way that makes it look more like a strike. You cannot possibly argue for “removing” that and claim to understand how catching a baseball works, let alone baseball as a whole.

[@Pee-Pad]

I love the artistry and craftsmanship of a good frame. In a perfect world, framing would be unnecessary and I can only imagine how catchers would adapt their mechanics to robot umps calling balls/strikes. But given the world in which we live, I like seeing a good frame as much as a good punch out as much as a good bat flip.

[@ssuperman123]

why not just fix the umps instead of banning framing

[@emmanuelvacakis4463]

The Giants will not make the playoffs even with this help from the umpires. We need the computer to call balls and strikes.

[@Ron742_]

Garbage. Bring on the robo umps.

[@Lgz009]

As a Jew I have a sympathy for umpires