UNBELIEVABLE! SHOGUN EP. 2 In Depth Historical Review and Analysis

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@metatronyt
@metatronyt 6 ай бұрын
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@JohnGeometresMaximos
@JohnGeometresMaximos 6 ай бұрын
I loved the costumes and the acting in this series, but found the story/plot mediocre. Left a lot to be desired.
@Intranetusa
@Intranetusa 6 ай бұрын
I don't understand why the Japanese were portrayed as so shocked by the Portuguese policies in the show. The show is supposed to take place in the early 1600s, so the Japanese would have had communication and trade with Europeans for nearly a century already. They would've had Portuguese imports for many decades as well. Japan and the Ming Dynasty had close relations, and the Ming even fought several battles with the Portugese in the early 1500s - long before the time of the show. You would think the people in the show should have long known Portuguese policy, the European maps of the world, etc.
@arielquelme
@arielquelme 6 ай бұрын
Ive read somewhere i cant remember, that Otomo Sorin was mode po pula in Europe,(particularly s pain and portuguese) than Nobunaga, die to his conversion to Catholic and proactive Campaign to promote catholicism in Japan Is this true? Need confirmation
@sketchtherapy1218
@sketchtherapy1218 6 ай бұрын
I'm so happy I been waiting for this so long. after all the bad stuff you have to review I bet this was nice. I'm about to dig into this can't wait.
@nabukotokei
@nabukotokei 6 ай бұрын
Its a refresher, i also view Christianity as a oppressing religion, however i can understand why he ask the question of if jesus is god, since religion has always been a branch of difference. Though Buddhism should not be too different from each culture when it comes to the core value, and Buddha not being a god but a person who was awakened, compared to jesus being a child of god and/or is the god. Buddhism also is not well translated same as many of the philosophy to the English language, and our words have different meaning which is harder to differentiate into the English methods.
@stephanwatson7902
@stephanwatson7902 6 ай бұрын
After I watched the show, I went right to Metatron's channel to see his review and was like wth he only did episide 1?!? Glad to see he's doing more episodes, because that show was great
@domingorubies656
@domingorubies656 6 ай бұрын
He had s family crisis those days , it’s good he chose to keep reviewing it even if it’s over.
@stephanwatson7902
@stephanwatson7902 6 ай бұрын
@@domingorubies656 Oh I didn't know. Wasn't complaining though, he can do these at his own pace, no matter what's going on in his life
@TheJakebriscoe
@TheJakebriscoe 6 ай бұрын
me too!!!
@benkeith2077
@benkeith2077 Ай бұрын
Please cover the rest of the episodes. This is great stuff. I studied Japanese history when I was a university student. A lot of the stuff is a great refresher and there are new things I’m learning from you as well. When I was a student, the professors seemed a little too stuffy to talk about in detail about anything to do with combat. They liked to stick to the great literary works from Japanese history, poetry and religion. I also loved the book Shogun so it’s great to hear your insights.
@ShiroiTengu
@ShiroiTengu 6 ай бұрын
So glad you're continuing this series! I've been waiting ages and ages for this 🥰 Please do continue doing more
@reecemccullough4829
@reecemccullough4829 6 ай бұрын
Lame
@ShiroiTengu
@ShiroiTengu 6 ай бұрын
@reecemccullough4829 bro, you would know, wouldn't you? Your name is Reece and your photo is of some video game. You embody "lame."😂
@YT-User1013
@YT-User1013 6 ай бұрын
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@YT-User1013
@YT-User1013 6 ай бұрын
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@YT-User1013
@YT-User1013 6 ай бұрын
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@abr7192
@abr7192 23 күн бұрын
This video is so superb. Thank you sir! Please, please, please continue to review the remaining Shogun episodes.
@Epsilonsama
@Epsilonsama 6 ай бұрын
The other priest is in fact a Franciscan Priest. The Jesuits and Franciscan were bitter rivals and they underminded each other back in the day.
@antideus9389
@antideus9389 6 ай бұрын
Yes. Makes no sense to have a Protestant in japan, before the arrival of Blackthorne. Metatron needs to update his video.
@Dhomden
@Dhomden 6 ай бұрын
​@@antideus9389Franciscans are not protestants
@antideus9389
@antideus9389 6 ай бұрын
@@Dhomden I never said they were.
@rusedgin
@rusedgin 6 ай бұрын
And, for more context, the Franciscans were heavily involved in missionary work in the Americas following the Spanish conquests. This order attempted the same methods of evangelization in Japan, in contrast with the Portuguese experience with the Jesuits. So the Portuguese were not very interested to promote the Franciscan methods as these were less inclined to adopt local customs and practices. Jesuit relations with the Japanese rulers was crucial to protect and expand trading. And further more we Portuguese were never interested in conquering Japan or hide our presence there. That would have been really dumb.
@Sir_TophamHatt
@Sir_TophamHatt 5 ай бұрын
And furthermore he was Spanish, not Portuguese, which further prejudiced all the Portuguese Jesuits against him.
@StuSaville
@StuSaville 6 ай бұрын
19:00 The monk is father Domingo, a Franciscan imprisoned at the request of the Jesuits. Despite both being Catholic orders, the Franciscans did not get along with the Jesuits whom they regarded as too worldly and corrupt, while the Jesuits viewed the Franciscans religious zealotry as being bad for business.
@Sir_TophamHatt
@Sir_TophamHatt 5 ай бұрын
Also, father Domingo was Spanish, not Portuguese. So he’s on the losing side of a sort of inter-national rivalry as well.
@MrSman67
@MrSman67 6 ай бұрын
A note on the monk: in the book he is a Spanish Franciscan who hates the elitism of the Jesuits.
@UndrState
@UndrState 6 ай бұрын
I think the old show does a better job with this scenario in terms of communicating this , as well as the length of Blackthorn's imprisonment , what he learns etc.
@mladen8127
@mladen8127 6 ай бұрын
The new show rushes through so much of the book - definitely needed to be two seasons
@DarthPlato
@DarthPlato 6 ай бұрын
There were Jesuits hated the elitism of the Jesuits.
@black_hand78
@black_hand78 2 ай бұрын
@@mladen8127there will definitely be more than 1 season. It’s been this good so far, just give them time to finish the rest.
@johnmiwa6256
@johnmiwa6256 6 ай бұрын
Hey Metatron, Thanks for doing this. I can tell you that the new series is very faithful to the book, with some changes here and there.
@atticstattic
@atticstattic 6 ай бұрын
Not as faithful as the first miniseries, but the changes make more sense
@fene2899
@fene2899 6 ай бұрын
Please do a #3. And if you continue this to the season one finale, please share your opinion on how this compares with the 80s series (both story-wise and historical accuracy). Loving this!
@arielquelme
@arielquelme 6 ай бұрын
We already have the 3# Its called "Silence" (2016) starres by And ref Garfield
@abr7192
@abr7192 6 ай бұрын
Simply outstanding! Thank you for the great content.
@metatronyt
@metatronyt 6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@Macdunne
@Macdunne 6 ай бұрын
I do hope we do see a continue review of this series by you as you bring in knowledge and perspective that is appreciated by many of us.
@KingEdwardMMVIII
@KingEdwardMMVIII 10 күн бұрын
Sad that these arent getting the views with how popular the show was. Really wish these videos continued!
@s.sweetland5074
@s.sweetland5074 6 ай бұрын
Yes, I recall there is a point in the scene with the kunoichi where someone calls out that she is a known person to them "Kayo the maid".
@rebeccaanne9863
@rebeccaanne9863 6 ай бұрын
It reminds me of a story I once heard of a Kunoichi who served as a nursemaid for her target for ten years, earning their complete trust, before she carried out her mission of slaughtering the entire family in a single night.
@arielquelme
@arielquelme 6 ай бұрын
@rebeccaanne9863 source? Anyway, even if its true, She must be very bad at assassination that it take 10 years to accomplish the mission
@shinobi-no-bueno
@shinobi-no-bueno 6 ай бұрын
This sounds made up​@@rebeccaanne9863
@skruffy7790
@skruffy7790 6 ай бұрын
@@arielquelme could also be spying as well. Maybe they just lost their usefulness then got killed.
@Rixhsinner
@Rixhsinner 6 ай бұрын
@@arielquelmeyou missed the entire point bro
@andreavyas7480
@andreavyas7480 6 ай бұрын
Yes please! More Shogun episodes review! I really appreciate your perspective and the history you provide.
@Brad_R_LiveFit
@Brad_R_LiveFit 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for your review. I always appreciate your detailed, historically accurate content. I frequently come away from your videos with new knowledge. Knowledge is a gift, and you give it freely. Thank you.
@TheNinjaCoby
@TheNinjaCoby 5 ай бұрын
Frankly its a compliment to female shinobis that they are not widely known about because that means they were really good at what they did. 😅
@michaelalexander9175
@michaelalexander9175 6 ай бұрын
Another fantastic historical and informative review!
@Ryuu44
@Ryuu44 6 ай бұрын
So glad you're still doing this. I'll click on an episode 3 review the second I see it uploaded to KZbin. Great job!
@justinreilly6619
@justinreilly6619 6 ай бұрын
Excellent review and analysis of episode 2. Yes please for continuing with this series. 🙏
@darthnihilusthebestsith
@darthnihilusthebestsith 6 ай бұрын
I had hoped you'd keep reviewing this series, but I didn't expect it anymore Good surprise!
@bushmaster6894
@bushmaster6894 6 ай бұрын
Please keep doing these reviews! Wife and I finished the first season and enjoyed your first review. Looking forward to more of these!
@williamocarroll1982
@williamocarroll1982 6 ай бұрын
Please keep making these. The show is great and your analysis of the episodes make it even better.
@brj_han
@brj_han 6 ай бұрын
I am Japanese, and chopsticks are the bane of my existence. There is no person, no teacher, who could teach me how to use the things, beyond poking at my food. If forks hadn't been invented, I would have starved to death. 😁
@arielquelme
@arielquelme 6 ай бұрын
Come to my place.. We eat rice with our (right) hand 😁 ofc we washed our hands before
@Pravlord
@Pravlord 6 ай бұрын
skill issue
@brj_han
@brj_han 6 ай бұрын
@@Pravlord Thank you Captain Obvious! 😁 I can type relatively quickly, I can put together and take apart computer hardware without problem, I can even solder tiny electrical components. But put two sticks in my hands, and nothin'. (Can't play the drums, either. Must be something to do with two sticks... 😀)
@brandonsheffield9873
@brandonsheffield9873 6 ай бұрын
LoL, I married an Okinawan early in my Marine Corps, now that I'm retired from the Marines we all moved to Okinawa so kids can finish school. Chopsticks was very easy to use, it took only 1 meal to learn how to use them.
@GordonFlash1983
@GordonFlash1983 6 ай бұрын
I've seen someone in a Japanese fusion restaurant eat steak with chopsticks, which of course, is very hard
@johnbd9765
@johnbd9765 6 ай бұрын
I love these videos, hope you get to do some more!
@CenturioGaius
@CenturioGaius 6 ай бұрын
I'd love a review of the whole show. I'm especially interested in the little details like the way they are sitting, as you did. But also the way they walk, the fact Blackthorn's Wife never touched a weapon, how she holds her hands while walking. All those little details
@bruceflyingsolo3977
@bruceflyingsolo3977 6 ай бұрын
As a half Japanese on my mother's side, I have a deep interest in the culture. I really appreciate the depth and breadth of your knowledge in these subjects.
@barruktp
@barruktp 6 ай бұрын
Good video! Small note: in the book Ishido calls Blacktorne "The Freak from the East" not from the West. This is important because Toranaga is the lord of the Eastern provinces and Blackthrone's ship came from the East as well. I think this is one of the few dropped balls in the show that they say from the West not from the East. I don't know if it was deliberate or not.
@Sir_TophamHatt
@Sir_TophamHatt 5 ай бұрын
Right. He’s contrasting him with all the other “Barbarians”, who arrive from the western side of Japan, not the East like Blackthorne does
@necro5129
@necro5129 6 ай бұрын
Loving these reviews. Shogun was one of the first 'adult' books i read as a child and i love it so much. I was very pleasantly surprised that this new adaptation was so well done, and Metatron highlighting things i failed to appreciate makes me even more grateful for the show
@dannygreenland4853
@dannygreenland4853 6 ай бұрын
I loved the series I watched all the Shogunate's reviews and I agreed with him about alot of the stuff he mentioned. Your reviews are different and I enjoy watching them also, I look forward to the rest of the episode reviews.
@catcherfreeman2104
@catcherfreeman2104 6 ай бұрын
Love your reviews of the show. Thank you for your work! May it be as pleasant to produce as it is to consume.
@Neonagi
@Neonagi 6 ай бұрын
Loved the show, as someone who already watched the 80s version, very few complaints from me but I love your extra in-depth analysis. I learn something new every time!
@NicholasNappi
@NicholasNappi 6 ай бұрын
Okay it’s wonderful to actually hear about good historical accuracy for a change so many people in today’s times mess up and try to change history or spread lies based upon beliefs. So I absolutely love hearing good reviews on something that didn’t get messed up by ignorant idiots. Thank you thank you so many Metatron
@happymouse8426
@happymouse8426 6 ай бұрын
Please continue this series. I love the book, Japanese culture is fascinating and the 80's mini series (on VHS, yes I'm old..lol) is standard fare in my house. Also since I don't have Netflix to watch this series, your channel gives me a chance to see how they portray the characters. Another well done. Thanks!
@222tg_
@222tg_ 6 ай бұрын
Had no idea you did a ep1, definitely gonna pick it up. Hopefully you can breakdown all eps. This show was just too good.
@kevinmcqueenie7420
@kevinmcqueenie7420 6 ай бұрын
I want all 10! Loved the show (and the 80s one, and the book) and being very interested in this period of my adopted country’s history, would love your insights on the whole series!
@jakemarsh8967
@jakemarsh8967 6 ай бұрын
I dont know if this is ever mentioned, but on the point of Christian Daimyos, currently, one of the lords from this time period is being canonized as a saint in the Catholic Church. Justo Takayama Ukon was a lord born in Yamato Province, converted to Catholicism when he was 11 years old, and was one of those who outspoke against Hideyoshi's restrictions on Christians. He left Japan in 1614 when the Tokugawa Shogunate officially banned Christianity among the Daimyo. So Takayama fled to Manila and is now highly revered in the Manila Cathedral as well as among the Catholics still in Japan.
@sun_land
@sun_land 5 ай бұрын
Excellent review, bring a lot to the table concerning knowledges and sources. Thank you very much !
@diogodias666
@diogodias666 6 ай бұрын
Did you knew, the guy that speaks with Jonh Blackthorne in the cell is actually Portuguese (irl)? He is called Joaquim d'Almeida. Btw, recently I discovered that there was another Portuguese actor amoung the cast!
@sturzuus
@sturzuus 6 ай бұрын
The man have a impressive resume but for me will always be Bucho, I mean always when i see him in a movie or tv show it's the first thing that pop up in my brain.
@richardaubrecht2822
@richardaubrecht2822 6 ай бұрын
So a Portuguese... Playing a SPANISH character from the book?
@jimnaz5267
@jimnaz5267 6 ай бұрын
Wow, Excellent fascinating analysis. I expected nothing less than excellent, but WOW. Well done. Thank you
@sweepingtime
@sweepingtime 6 ай бұрын
One thing about the assassin is that she could have been trained in fighting in darkness. In the show they would not be able to shoot the scene in darkness, so there had to be some light but we had to imagine these characters fighting nearly blind. I believe that she even made a show of snuffing out some light sources. This would also have been a last ditch attempt to get rid of Blackthorne since you would not squander such a highly trained agent lightly.
@kushagermaithani8871
@kushagermaithani8871 6 ай бұрын
Hello metatron I am from India and a big fan of you, please make a detailed on japanise castel. In your previous video regarding origin of castle in Europe you promise to make a second part on origin on castle in Japan.
@hipperdanhop2877
@hipperdanhop2877 2 ай бұрын
I read the book and watched the first series in the 80's and it sparked my fascination with Japan! Love your videos about this show. Greetings from Holland!
@LKMNOP
@LKMNOP 6 ай бұрын
Simply Love how your voice sounds when you talk about armor. You get so excited because you love it so much. Very nice to hear.
@alexmontrose8004
@alexmontrose8004 6 ай бұрын
I love your in depth analysis. Please do the entire season.
@farbod21
@farbod21 6 ай бұрын
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. I really hope you continue these. Just brilliantly informative and interesting.
@petiaivailova2563
@petiaivailova2563 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the interesting and detailed analysis.
@snoox27
@snoox27 6 ай бұрын
Oh ive waited for this. Thank you team
@TotalWarDocumentaries
@TotalWarDocumentaries 6 ай бұрын
Regardless of the video, I'm really enjoying these daily updates Metatron! I've been a fan of the channels for almost 8 years now (so since you blew up pretty much) and lately I've found myself expecting the daily Metatron video. I hope you're able too keep up with this upload schedule cause it's awesome watching you daily :)
@Beorninger77
@Beorninger77 6 ай бұрын
Yes, please continue! You „need“ to get to episode 9 which is one of the best episodes ever made for a tv show
@georgefranklin8513
@georgefranklin8513 Ай бұрын
Hello Metatron. Did you finish the series? What did you think? I would personally really like it and appreciate it if you wouldn't mind continuing this series. I find your reviews of this show to be the best on KZbin and i learn stuff. Its fun and I retain the information really well with your method of teaching. Thank you sir
@hamasathecold7842
@hamasathecold7842 6 ай бұрын
I definitely want more of this. Absolutely loved the show
@mikeunderwood659
@mikeunderwood659 6 ай бұрын
Brilliant stuff, very interesting. I hope you do reviews for the rest of the season!
@Gengh13
@Gengh13 6 ай бұрын
As we learned recently from the documentary named "The acolyte" stone is extremely flammable and fire doesn't need oxygen so castles would be equally susceptible to fire 😂.
@arielquelme
@arielquelme 6 ай бұрын
Also the said documentary taught us that sperm didnt needed to fertilize an ovum... Because its The will of the force 😂
@viljamtheninja
@viljamtheninja 5 ай бұрын
@@arielquelme Hell, we've seen parthenogenesis in nature even with animals that usually reproduce sexually, it's happened several times recently with crocodiles under recorded circumstances, so it's hardly the craziest thing they could've come up with. I don't really hate the idea so much as the awful cringe way in which it was carried out.
@khal7702
@khal7702 6 ай бұрын
been waiting for this! You better review every episode Metatron!
@Earlofdadjokes
@Earlofdadjokes 5 ай бұрын
I’m so glad I discovered your channel! You’re so knowledgeable and your insight just deepens my appreciation of the show. You’re amazing!
@Gustavo-w6p1i
@Gustavo-w6p1i 5 ай бұрын
Awesome video! Keep them coming!!
@whlnmchl
@whlnmchl 6 ай бұрын
Keep them coming liked the show like your input even more!
@joachimdo7096
@joachimdo7096 6 ай бұрын
The best Review I have seen so far! Please do more!! I heard the series will be continued! Awesome!!
@kali550
@kali550 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for this in-depth analysis. What a great companion piece to the episode!
@johndahl266
@johndahl266 5 ай бұрын
Love your insight! Can we expect a review for each episode? Look forward to more videos on Shogun!!
@PedroPereira_PT
@PedroPereira_PT 6 ай бұрын
Hello, greatings from Portugal, love the videos Metatron
@deaderthendead041
@deaderthendead041 6 ай бұрын
I love that metatron's idea of fan service is gratuitous samurai armor shots 😅
@jimnaz5267
@jimnaz5267 6 ай бұрын
WOW. Excellent. I would expect nothing less, but WOW. Thank you
@dgunn2817
@dgunn2817 6 ай бұрын
I love the scope of your knowledge.
@silpex92
@silpex92 6 ай бұрын
I love learning more about japanese history. Nice video!
@boydgrandy5769
@boydgrandy5769 6 ай бұрын
The priest who had been confined in the prison with Blackthorn was a Spanish Catholic of the Franciscan Order, not a protestant. He had come to Japan as a missionary, and ran afoul of the Jesuits. The Spanish Catholic Church and The Portuguese Jesuit Order of the Catholic Church were at odds in the competition to acquire new converts in the Americas, in Africa, in India, and certainly in the Japans during this period. The Spaniard had been placed in the prison at the insistence of the head of the Order in Japan. Toranaga knew of this man, that he spoke fluent Japanese, and therefore Toranaga had Blackthorn put in with him. Not only to save Blackthorn from Ishido, but to have the old priest teach him Japanese. In the book and fist series, the priest explained to Blackthorn that the Japanese did not consider imprisonment to be punishment; it was instead only a place to warehouse the accused until their punishment (usually a form of crucifixion for the lower orders) was decided. This was not even mentioned in the latest version of Shogun, but it was dealt with heavily in the book and in the first miniseries.
@poponachtschnecke
@poponachtschnecke 6 ай бұрын
This was such a pleasant and reassuring video. 😊
@20th_century_Ghost
@20th_century_Ghost 6 ай бұрын
I've been looking forward to this.
@isabelaisme6979
@isabelaisme6979 6 ай бұрын
Oh please, do continue this series 🙏🏻🥺
@anitaferro1405
@anitaferro1405 6 ай бұрын
Please do the entire series!!!
@emblemarms
@emblemarms 6 ай бұрын
Appreciate you sharing all that! Super interesting
@jasonjordan8376
@jasonjordan8376 6 ай бұрын
I really hope you do this for every episode!
@hainstain93
@hainstain93 5 ай бұрын
spero con tutto il cuore che questa serie di tuoi video continuerà
@Rowlph8888
@Rowlph8888 5 ай бұрын
I think you missed the distinction that Ishido was making between the Portuguese priest and what he referred to as "the heretic" barbarian.His "dogs face" criticism is levelled exclusively at Blackthorn because he is the first northern European they have seen, other than the Dutch on the same ship.Northern Europeans even now have much more white skin, predominantly green, grey or blue-eyes, and a variety of light or dark coloured hair. Back in 1600 this would have been an even greater distinction, especially considering the Spanish/Portuguese peninsular had just kicked out the Moors who had integrated for 800 years.The Portuguese monks would have all had brown eyes and brown hair (as is the majority nowadays) and in this way similar to the Japanese.The Protestants appearance would have been a lot more shocking to the Japanese, hence the quote "what are they"? By the Japanese army official seeing Blackthorn for the first time, despite the Portuguese priests having been there for 50 years and also the quote "is it true he has blue-eyed"?
@MrBlueski93
@MrBlueski93 3 ай бұрын
Sir, have you ever considered doing a video regarding the Christian Daimyō, "Blessed" Takayama Ukon?
@potandpoliticswithmr.broph1420
@potandpoliticswithmr.broph1420 6 ай бұрын
I think the reason they speak English when they should be speaking Portuguese is a hold over from the book that was actually a technique used to increase immersion. We see and discover Japan through the lens of John Blackthorn and to me it was always a conscious and brilliant choice to give the reader the proper feeling of familiarity when dealing with the Portuguese and highlight the feeling of strangeness and being lost until he slowly learns and becomes familiar with Japanese. Blackthorn is fluent in English and Portuguese so it's all put in English which the reader is familiar with and understands to give the feeling of being Blackthorn more than the literal experience, if Blackthorn knows and understands it's put in English so the reader understands it and feels familiar. The Japanese is foreign to Blackthorn so it's treated as foreign to the reader to give that sense of lost and slowly coming to understanding as Blackthorn does. As an Italian who is fluent in Japanese I think the effect is lost on you. It's not a safe harbor of familiarity with your mother tongue among a sea of foreign and unknown words to you. As someone who only speaks English it makes the scenes with the other europeans feel more familiar and safe, and as a reader you feel yourself relax a bit even though you know they're frenemies and it's not safe. I imagine very much the feeling Blackthorn would have. It feels safer naturally psychologically because of familiarity, but you know it isn't and Blackthorn may be in more familiar but more dangerous waters. It's always been one of those nice flourishes I loved about the story. But you my friend are naturally immune to the effect due to education. I'm actually a bit sad you miss out on that experience. Well that's my opinion anyway. I could be wrong. Have a good day boss. Thanks for the entertainment and education. Peace ✌️🕊️
@Intranetusa
@Intranetusa 6 ай бұрын
I don't understand why the Japanese were portrayed as so shocked by the Portuguese policies in the show. The show is supposed to take place in the early 1600s, so the Japanese would have had communication and trade with Europeans for nearly a century already. They would've had Portuguese imports for many decades as well. Japan and the Ming Dynasty had close relations, and the Ming even fought several battles with the Portugese in the early 1500s - long before the time of the show. You would think the people in the show should have long known Portuguese policy, the European maps of the world, etc.
@boogaloobaloo
@boogaloobaloo 6 ай бұрын
Surprise surprise, the book is better. Many such cases.
@arielquelme
@arielquelme 6 ай бұрын
I read Japanese historians complaints about new Shogun series Regarding the castle ceiling in Shogun does not accurate historically
@carriekelly4186
@carriekelly4186 6 ай бұрын
Yes waaay before😅
@mayena
@mayena 6 ай бұрын
@@arielquelmeAlso many complained about the 1980 series as well.
@arielquelme
@arielquelme 6 ай бұрын
Well I personally have no idea about The 1980.. What was the complaints about the 1980s movie?
@mkkm1701
@mkkm1701 6 ай бұрын
I would LOVE review of ep. 3!!!
@potandpoliticswithmr.broph1420
@potandpoliticswithmr.broph1420 6 ай бұрын
A brief history of chop sticks is why I watch this channel. I never know what weird historical tidbit I'm going to learn, but there's almost always something I never would have thought of in your videos as well as the meat and potatoes of the topic. Random Italian cuisine question for you. My Grandfather and Grandmother on my Step Dad's side were straight off the boat Italian immigrants and she made her homemade meatballs with raisins in them. I have never heard of that anywhere else in my life and I was wondering if you might know if it's an Italian thing that just isn't generally talked about or maybe a regional thing? Would be interesting to figure out roughly were in Italy she and presumably my Grandfather as well came from if it is a regional style. She's long gone to the happy hunting grounds and so has my step father more recently so there's no one for me to ask and only raisins in the meatballs as a clue... Man I haven't thought about her in decades.
@DeusRegum
@DeusRegum 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Raffy!
@timwhite5562
@timwhite5562 6 ай бұрын
This was the only review i actually cared to see, since his background makes him tht best suited to give the reviews (at least out of the channels i subscribe to). I hope it's not months until Ep 3. As for the show: out of sheer coincidence i read the book for the first time last summer. I had no idea that they were doing an adaptation until a month or so after i finished reading it, so it was fresh in my head the series aired. If current and future writers, producers and directors are planning on doing an adaptation of a book, and you're going to deviate from the source material, this series should serve as a blueprint of how to do it well. The things that made it on screen didn't deviate too much . The biggest change in the narrative was the romantic relationship between Blackthorn and Mariko. Personally i believe this to be a good thing. I found their relationship in the book to be super cringy. Especially when they were talking to each other in Latin, and it was all "from whence," "i love thee,"etc. Yikes 😬. They did some changes with side characters, mostly with whether they existed or not in both forms of media. In general they did a GREAT job with the characters. In the show, they would say or do all the same things they did in the book, yet the characters had a completely different feel to their book counterpart. Yabo felt cold and cruel in the book. Yet in spite of the fact he did a lot of the same things he did in the book (like boiling the prisoner alive), he was somehow far more likeable in the series. Ochiba from the novel fits the "dragon lady" trope to a T, while in the series I found her to be a much more sympathetic character. But mostly the changes were in what parts and characters they decided to focus on. In the book, Blackthorn is very much the lead character, in the series the focus is far more on Toranaga. We see this happening a lot over the last several years, where a white male character will either be completely race and possibly gender swapped for a black lesbian or something, or they'll diminish a brave character into an incompetent coward. It almost never works. I think the main reason itdoesn't is because the decision to change the character has nothing to do with with the story, it was political one. It doesn't help that they all seem to have a gift for making their own spite and contempt so blatantly obvious that you'd have to be far on the spectrum to not be able to suss it out. I get none of that with Shogun. The entirety of the series just reenforces that the decision was a narrative based one and not at all political. *Toranaga's confusion over Catholic vs protestant is completely understandable. Id imagine that monotheism in general might be confusing to people who aren't. Then you're telling them that not only is there one god, but that different segments of it's worshippers hate each other over relatively obscure bits of doctrine. That would likely be confusing to them. Hell, it's confusing to me and i grew up in a Christian country. 🤷‍♂️
@OlgrimFastfang
@OlgrimFastfang 6 ай бұрын
Always fantastic breakdowns! Thanks so much for making these!
@ParlonsAstronomie
@ParlonsAstronomie 6 ай бұрын
It was so interesting! Breaking that amazing show permit to talk to so much topics of the history of Japan (social rules, clothes/armor, castle, interaction with the west, etc.)! This show is the proof that you can make a good show while beeing historicaly accurate. I really hope that you will do a video about the rest of the show !
@Boss_Fight_Index_muki
@Boss_Fight_Index_muki 6 ай бұрын
i always loved the original Richard Chamberlain Shogun
@UndrState
@UndrState 6 ай бұрын
Ultimately I think it was more well done .
@julianne_warren
@julianne_warren 6 ай бұрын
One of the very few shows that I've liked enough to buy it as a DVD.
@Vespistado
@Vespistado 6 ай бұрын
A great explanation. I will rewatch the episode right now
@maryschlotterer9633
@maryschlotterer9633 6 ай бұрын
Yes please continue
@baltasartranconywidemann5129
@baltasartranconywidemann5129 6 ай бұрын
21:30 beautiful display of police weapons, tsukubo (T polearm) and sasumata (Y polearm). I did not know they are that old.
@erickey2443
@erickey2443 6 ай бұрын
I loved the series. I also love your reviews. They give a wonderful educational aftertaste of the series. We'll done!👍👍
@christaylor9929
@christaylor9929 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. Please do continue!
@KendoSwordsman
@KendoSwordsman 6 ай бұрын
Yes. Keep going. I'm following the show as well now
@YouTubalcaine
@YouTubalcaine 6 ай бұрын
This series turned out to be a thoroughly enjoyable experience, even if it didn't have black samurai. I was particularly impressed with how well Hiroyuki Sanada managed to fill the shoes of the legendary Toshiro Mifune. The writing, acting, and cinematography were all top-notch, bringing a fresh perspective while still retaining a nostalgic familiarity of the original, and my only real disappointment was that was over too soon.
@jmsaguas77
@jmsaguas77 6 ай бұрын
The part of having the portuguese speaking in English, while the Japanese speak Japanese and the English speak English, is something that I'm not very fond of. I'm Portuguese, and we're used to see every movie and tv series with subtitles. We're used to listen to other languages which helps us a lot with learning other languages. ;-)
@0num4
@0num4 6 ай бұрын
Outstanding review & analysis. Grazie!
@jorgerapalo2673
@jorgerapalo2673 6 ай бұрын
The priest in prison was supposed to be Catholic as well, but from a different order. Franciscan instead of Jesuit.
@katerbiller04
@katerbiller04 6 ай бұрын
Yes and was Portuguese and shared Ramerez's hatred of his Spanish occupiers
@arielquelme
@arielquelme 6 ай бұрын
I believe at that time, Portuguese didnt have any problem with being "occupied".. Since the context is Iberian Union The only thing that piss Portuguese is how Spain prioriyize their own interest in practice
@katerbiller04
@katerbiller04 6 ай бұрын
@arielquelme I was speaking from the literary perspective. Perhaps the contemporary " occupiers " was not the best choice to make but rather that of their "Spanish irritation." It is plausible, seeing as minor tensions did arise and as you pointed out, they despised Spanish bravado.
@Gustavo-w6p1i
@Gustavo-w6p1i 5 ай бұрын
@@arielquelme You are incorrect. Portuguese hated with being "occupied". Just a few decades later a successfult revolution gave the independence back.
@uccc2282
@uccc2282 6 ай бұрын
Devo dire che lo show mi è piaciuto molto e spero che farai tutta la serie. Continua così.
@HeWhoShams
@HeWhoShams 6 ай бұрын
What do you think of the movie "Silence" that shows the persecution of the Christians later on in the Edo period?
@TakishimaToshiya
@TakishimaToshiya 6 ай бұрын
Deserved.
@HeWhoShams
@HeWhoShams 6 ай бұрын
@@TakishimaToshiya Are you a edge lord or something? I am not wanting a commentary or opinion if they deserved it or not. That is Japan's territory and they do as they wish. I am asking about historical accuracy and if he liked it overall, if seen.
@TakishimaToshiya
@TakishimaToshiya 6 ай бұрын
@@HeWhoShams Yeah, an edge lord for not wanting foreigners to try and colonise my country and thinking they deserved whatever they received for trying to do so.
@HeWhoShams
@HeWhoShams 6 ай бұрын
@@TakishimaToshiya You mean the same country that pushed into Korea and did unspeakable things there, then China, and Oceania? Slaughtering thousands of civilians and stripping their lands? Get over it. This has been happening since the dawn of man and won't stop anytime soon. As I said, what the Japanese did to the Christians is not a point I was trying to focus on. It happened and that can't be changed.
@TakishimaToshiya
@TakishimaToshiya 6 ай бұрын
@@HeWhoShams Hilarious since it was the influence of Western Colonialism and education that lead to everything you mentioned. The first instance of which can be traced back to the Christians once again. So thank you again for proving my point.
@Sxilder1k
@Sxilder1k 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! I watched both series, and I must say I tend to prefer the 1980 one, fot its linguistic immersion at least. When japanese is spoken in presence of Blackthorne but without an translator, we the viewers have no clue (those of us who do not speak japanese) about what is said. Also in the 80 show, Blackthorne does make apparent efforts to learn japanese. I also found the narration closer to the book.
@archonmagosaugustus
@archonmagosaugustus 6 ай бұрын
Eccelente video. Sempre un piacere di sentirti, specialmente per questa serie che adoro.
@KingEdwardMMVIII
@KingEdwardMMVIII 5 ай бұрын
Incredibly interesting how the religions interacted
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